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[00:40:46] <Dominus|FAQing> hi Kirben
[00:40:51] <Kirben> Hi
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[01:29:16] <Copernica> is it possible to take a screenshot in exult?
[01:29:33] <Dominus|FAQing> sorry to say: see the FAQ :-)
[01:29:39] <Dominus|FAQing> ctrl-s i think
[01:29:44] <Dominus|FAQing> ah no
[01:29:47] <Dominus|FAQing> wait
[01:30:12] <Copernica> i don't believe the FAQ has anything to say about screenshots.
[01:30:33] <Dominus|FAQing> the documentation: says ctrl-alt-s
[01:30:35] <Dominus|FAQing> :-)
[01:30:58] <Copernica> ah, thank you dominus
[01:31:03] <Dominus|FAQing> I had this in the FAQ and recently updated the documentation with all the stuff
[01:31:11] <Dominus|FAQing> didnīt want to be rude
[01:31:45] <Copernica> too bad i don't have a linux box, else i'd run exult studio and pull the stuff out :P
[01:31:57] <Dominus|FAQing> :-)
[01:32:01] <Copernica> had debian on a scsi disk that seems to have died
[01:32:04] <Dominus|FAQing> what are you running?
[01:32:06] <Copernica> ah well
[01:32:10] <Copernica> on this box, 2k
[01:32:51] <Dominus|FAQing> in time the studio will work as well in Windows
[01:32:59] <Copernica> yes, i read that part of the FAQ.
[01:33:00] <Dominus|FAQing> emphasis on time
[01:33:13] <Dominus|FAQing> though the Studio part is outdated
[01:33:27] <Dominus|FAQing> many changes to it since I wrote this part
[01:33:46] <Copernica> well, really all i need is a util that'll work in 2k and allow me to pull out images from the shapes files
[01:33:55] <Dominus|FAQing> ah, that we have
[01:34:05] <Copernica> but i can do screenshots and crop out the stuff i don't need for now
[01:34:08] <Dominus|FAQing> see the download section
[01:34:30] <Copernica> oh, the photoshop plugin?
[01:34:36] <Dominus|FAQing> yep
[01:34:55] <Copernica> yeah, i'm a little confused about that one.
[01:35:34] <Copernica> for example, can it open *.vga?
[01:35:39] <Copernica> iirc, it opens .shp
[01:35:57] <Dominus|FAQing> download the tools look at the docs for expack
[01:36:12] <Dominus|FAQing> use expack to extract the shapes
[01:36:17] <Dominus|FAQing> form the vga files
[01:36:25] <Dominus|FAQing> form=from
[01:36:56] <Copernica> ah
[01:37:09] <Dominus|FAQing> use either shp2pcx
[01:37:12] <Copernica> er, wait a second
[01:37:16] <Dominus|FAQing> or split shp
[01:37:18] <Copernica> where is 'expack'?
[01:37:27] <Dominus|FAQing> in the Exult tools
[01:37:30] <Copernica> ah
[01:37:33] <Dominus|FAQing> download section
[01:37:35] <Copernica> i just had the photoshop plugin
[01:37:37] * Copernica nods
[01:38:57] <Dominus|FAQing> are you set then?
[01:39:33] <Copernica> yah
[01:39:38] <Copernica> i'll figure it out
[01:39:51] <Copernica> thanks agian
[01:39:54] <Copernica> s/agian/again/
[01:43:50] <Copernica> erm
[01:44:07] <Dominus|FAQing> huh?
[01:44:55] <Copernica> trying to figure out what to do with the *.u7o files. there's not much documentation about that.
[01:45:19] <Dominus|FAQing> I think thatīs the shp files
[01:45:39] <Copernica> oh
[01:48:42] <Copernica> [output file prefix] [palette file]
[01:49:11] <Copernica> for %i in (*.u7o) do c:\ultima7\tools\shp2pcx %i
[01:49:16] <Copernica> trying to get this done in a batch
[01:49:31] <Dominus|FAQing> ah, seems I had this problem once as well
[01:49:33] <Copernica> but what should be specified for those two options?
[01:50:06] <Dominus|FAQing> give me a moment, Iīll try myself
[01:50:43] <Copernica> ok
[01:55:01] <Dominus|FAQing> okay I found a pallete file in the source but that one does not produce the right image (the palette is messed up)
[01:55:20] <Dominus|FAQing> better try splitshp and read it via photoshop
[01:55:50] <Copernica> just do splitshp on the .vga file?
[01:55:58] <Dominus|FAQing> nope
[01:56:10] <Dominus|FAQing> expack to expack the shp
[01:56:27] <Copernica> well, if i'm not mistaken, the portraits are stored in faces.vga
[01:56:34] <Copernica> in ultima7\static
[01:56:42] <Dominus|FAQing> (as is written in the expack.txt it produces u7o by default)
[01:56:50] <Copernica> right
[01:56:55] <Copernica> i did read expack.txt
[01:57:33] <Dominus|FAQing> yeah, there is also a shape browser in built in Exult (as is written in the docs (thouhgh only in the keyboard commands))
[01:57:55] <Dominus|FAQing> start Exult, start a game
[01:57:58] <Copernica> 11/17/1997 08:37a 10,015 POINTERS.SHP
[01:58:00] <Dominus|FAQing> ctrl-b
[01:58:16] <Dominus|FAQing> starts the shape browser
[01:58:22] <Copernica> ok
[01:59:16] <Dominus|FAQing> in this use v to navigate the vga files, s and j to broswe those and f to browse frames (soem shapes have lot of frames)
[01:59:26] <Dominus|FAQing> shift to browse in other direction
[01:59:29] <Copernica> any way to export the shapes?
[01:59:48] <Dominus|FAQing> only with the tools
[01:59:54] <Copernica> so
[01:59:58] <Dominus|FAQing> via photoshop lugin
[02:00:11] <Copernica> how does one export the shapes using the tools? on this point i am not clear.
[02:00:14] <Dominus|FAQing> the shape browser is good to see which one you want to expack
[02:00:26] <Dominus|FAQing> okay
[02:00:47] <Dominus|FAQing> okay say you want to have the iolo portrait in faces.vga
[02:00:53] <Copernica> exactly.
[02:01:07] <Dominus|FAQing> in the shape browser you see that this is shape 1 of xxx
[02:01:23] <Copernica> right...
[02:01:31] <Dominus|FAQing> use expack -x faces.vga 1 to expack this
[02:02:03] <Dominus|FAQing> (or expack -x to get all shapes from faces.vga)
[02:02:24] <Dominus|FAQing> (expack -x faces.vga I meant)
[02:02:33] <Copernica> yes
[02:02:39] <Dominus|FAQing> now you have 1.u7o
[02:03:40] <Dominus|FAQing> rename this to u7o.shp (expack expacks all files from different flexes can be shapes in vga files can be midis or waves or whatever - thatīs why it is u7o)
[02:04:11] <Copernica> oh
[02:04:16] <Dominus|FAQing> I meant rename this to 1.shp
[02:04:21] <Copernica> so you can just rename it and open it in photosho
[02:04:23] <Copernica> p
[02:04:32] <Copernica> that's easy enough.
[02:04:44] <Copernica> i thought perhaps .u7o was some different format and you still had to get it into .shp
[02:05:01] <Dominus|FAQing> well and there are those shapes with more frames thatīs why you need the splitshp.exe
[02:05:20] <Dominus|FAQing> like 0.u7o from faces.vga
[02:06:08] <Copernica> right
[02:06:31] <Dominus|FAQing> donīt know what happens when you load those in photoshop
[02:06:53] <Copernica> thanks for your help, gotta run
[02:06:57] <Copernica> brb
[02:09:58] <Dominus|FAQing> FAQ and Documentation updated
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[02:10:23] <Dominus> ?faq
[02:10:23] <exultbot> You can find the official FAQ at: http://exult.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[02:10:30] <Dominus> ?help
[02:10:50] <Kirben> Yep, already online.
[02:10:56] <Dominus> ah, cool
[02:11:14] <Dominus> had to do this before I leave tomorrow
[02:11:21] <Dominus> quite tired now
[02:11:59] <Dominus> will be in contact next week again (I think)
[02:12:22] <Dominus> bye
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[07:32:10] <wjp> morning
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[07:40:38] <Nadir> hi
[08:15:11] <wjp|work> hi
[08:15:37] * wjp|work just fixed the --disable-tools switch *again* ;-)
[08:16:11] <Nadir> Is that the commit you made this morning or something yet to commit
[08:16:25] <wjp|work> that's the one from an hour ago
[08:16:37] <Nadir> Thanks for the fix for the Temple of Emotion.
[08:17:04] <wjp|work> np
[08:19:09] <Nadir> I tried the Test of Purity this morning (bug was closed in bug tracker). Iolo and Shamino work, but Dupre's part (worms) is a bit broken.
[08:19:35] <Nadir> Dupre comes into the room while you're hacking away at the worms, approaches you and disappears.
[08:20:34] <wjp|work> hmm, so the flag that you passed the test isn't set, probably
[08:21:30] <Nadir> indeed. Dupre is behind the door to the North. You can talk to him, but he just says that there is no time and to hurry.
[08:31:33] * wjp|work is beginning to hate worms
[08:32:20] <Nadir> Die Worms Die !
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[09:21:38] <Dominus> hi
[09:21:53] <Dominus> just a quick dropin because the test of purity
[09:22:44] <Nadir> wjp and I have decided that we hate worms
[09:23:17] <Dominus> hrmpf, good fix for that :-)
[09:23:35] <Dominus> I definetly had it once working correctly in Exult
[09:23:43] <Dominus> Dupre is just too slow
[09:23:45] <Nadir> yes. me too
[09:23:50] <Nadir> Dupre disappears
[09:26:04] <Dominus> I think if you do this test very slow it might be right
[09:26:13] <Dominus> the test is just annoying.
[09:26:54] <Nadir> I think that when you hear the door opening, you should stop and wait for Dupre
[09:27:20] <Dominus> yeah but it worked in the original somewhat better
[09:27:33] <Dominus> could be a "approach Avatar" bug
[09:28:58] <Dominus> hm, Nadir, our timezone differs about 8 minutes :-)
[09:30:37] <Dominus> hm, got to go. Meet my family this weekend. Donīt know how good Iīll be in contact the next two weeks
[09:30:42] <Dominus> bye
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[11:43:48] <Nadir> b
[11:44:07] <wjp|work> wb
[11:48:24] <wjp|work> hmm, both Dominik and 'Windforce dragon' are reporting slowdown of animation/AI events a few seconds/minutes after startning a game
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[11:51:26] <wjp> time to go home
[11:51:28] <wjp> bbl
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[12:19:28] <Nadir> cdwb
[12:19:36] <Nadir> oops, typed that cd in a wrong window...
[12:21:08] <wjp> thx :-)
[12:56:41] <Nadir> Interesting. I'm in the Temple of Order very close to the Wall of Lights
[12:57:49] <Nadir> I'm trying to get to the Wall of Lights via the Vault of the Dead. At some point there is a green carpet which acts as an elevator. When I pull the lever, the carpet goes up, but I stay there...
[12:58:23] <wjp> hmm
[12:59:52] <Nadir> I guess it should behave like the flying carpet in BG
[13:00:50] <wjp> brb
[13:03:43] <Nadir> submitted a bug
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[13:58:16] <Colourless> hi
[13:58:48] <Nadir> hi
[14:25:34] <Nadir> Hey, 2 Batlins at the Wall of Light...
[14:39:02] <Nadir> gotta go. See you all in 3 weeks (>2 Sept)
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[15:18:02] <wjp> back
[15:18:03] <wjp> hi
[15:18:15] <Colourless> hi
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