#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 10 May 2003 (GMT)

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[08:07:11] <shazza> hey
[08:07:15] <shazza> where cna i get the new exult
[08:18:26] <Ember> Snapshots are on the download page linked from http://exult.sf.net as usual.
[08:40:38] <shazza> help
[08:40:40] <shazza> anyone there
[08:41:37] <shazza> I try to run Exult, after installing it
[08:41:43] <shazza> (1.1, i upgraded)
[08:41:44] <shazza> and i get
[08:41:48] <shazza> the following message
[08:42:08] <shazza> "A required .DLL file, SDL_MIXER.DLL, was not found."
[08:43:03] <shazza> n/m
[08:43:06] <shazza> i am getting it now
[08:43:09] <Ember> You need to download the "Required file for Exult 1.1.x Snapshots" and install it too.
[08:43:12] <Ember> Cool.
[08:45:00] <shazza> Very good.
[08:45:07] <shazza> How is the stealing problem changed?
[08:45:49] <Ember> I'm not sure. I haven't really played exult in ages. *grin*
[08:46:13] <shazza> Lol.
[08:46:21] <shazza> Thank you very much for the help, anyway.
[08:46:37] * Ember smiles and bows. No problem.
[08:47:06] <shazza> Well, not much of a change to stealing.
[08:47:14] <shazza> They look right in front of me, I eat their food and they do nothing.
[08:47:23] <shazza> Grrr.
[08:58:34] <servus> maybe they like the way you eat their food ;-)
[09:02:42] <shazza> But I took stuff and moved it around.
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[10:27:43] <wjp> hi
[10:27:48] <Ember> Hi.
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[10:45:01] <Colourless> hi
[10:45:25] <wjp> hi
[10:51:11] <Colourless> i've been busy
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[11:04:26] <Darke> 'ello.
[11:06:24] <sbx> hi
[11:09:35] * Darke tries to work out how to get a file off a floppy disk, where the only machine with a working drive is in a linux box, without both floppy and vfat support built into the kernel. *ponder*
[11:12:00] <wjp> take disk image on that pc
[11:12:10] <wjp> copy disk image to pc that does have vfat export, and loopback moun it?
[11:12:16] <wjp> s/moun/mount/
[11:14:05] <Darke> In all likelyhood, the only pc with floppy support is the windows one, without a floppy drive. *grin* I don't tend to use them y'see? Which is why it took me about 6 months to relise I'd forgotten to turn on a couple of things in the kernel. *grin*
[11:14:14] * Darke will poke around to see if that'll work though. *grin*
[11:37:55] <Darke> It worked. Of course the files on the disk were (current-revision)-1. *sigh*
[13:09:52] <wjp> interesting post on the forum
[13:09:59] <wjp> (the 'ask RG' one)
[13:11:32] <Colourless> sort of interesting
[13:12:23] <wjp> so we'll have to submit english question to be translated into german to be translated into english for RG, and then a similar process for the answers? :-)
[13:12:26] <wjp> (unless RG speaks german)
[13:26:26] <sbx> anyone know where i can find ST:TNG transcripts?
[13:27:02] <Colourless> does this look like #startrek to you? :-)
[13:27:33] * sbx looks at Colourless, and wjp, and Darke, and himself.
[13:27:38] <sbx> Close enough.
[13:28:51] * sbx sits in the corner.
[13:35:17] <shazza> get out of my corner
[13:36:30] <wjp> :-)
[13:37:03] <shazza> hello wjp
[13:37:11] <shazza> tell sbx to get out of my corner
[13:37:20] <sbx> im not in your corner
[13:37:23] <sbx> there are four of them
[13:37:37] <shazza> yes
[13:37:40] <shazza> you are in my corner
[13:37:48] <shazza> one of four are mine
[13:37:52] <shazza> :-(
[13:37:53] <sbx> one of four are mine
[13:37:54] <wjp> nah, #exult is a seven-sided room
[13:38:08] <shazza> well you are in the wrong one sbx
[13:38:08] <wjp> plenty of corners to go around :-)
[13:38:20] <sbx> sit on the ceiling then
[13:38:20] <shazza> no
[13:38:22] <shazza> there are 9 people in here
[13:38:30] <shazza> so not everyone gets their own corner
[13:38:43] <Colourless> incorrect
[13:38:48] <Colourless> there is not 9 people
[13:38:52] <wjp> exultbot isn't a person
[13:39:05] * exultbot doesn't need a corner
[13:39:16] <sbx> exultbot sits on wjp's lap?
[13:39:28] <shazza> everyone needs a corner
[13:40:02] <shazza> even you exultbot
[13:40:08] <shazza> bot or not, you deserve your own corner
[13:40:17] <shazza> if you don't get one, this channel is racist, towards bot's
[13:40:17] <Colourless> exultbot is omnipresent perhaps
[13:41:25] * sbx lies down on the couch.
[13:41:25] <shazza> exult do you want a corner
[13:41:36] <shazza> excuse me sbx
[13:41:47] <shazza> first you sit in my corner, now you are on my couch.
[13:41:49] <shazza> ;-)
[13:42:45] <shazza> explain your behaviour
[13:43:18] * wjp wonders since when everything in here belongs to shazza
[13:43:26] <shazza> i am rich
[13:43:36] <shazza> i bought lots of items
[13:43:46] <shazza> :-)
[13:44:00] <shazza> and purchased a corner
[13:44:02] <shazza> :-D
[13:49:53] * Darke pushes shazza's corner int #oblivion and replaces it with a generic corner. *grin*
[13:49:56] <Darke> s/int/into/
[13:50:22] <sbx> thats probably coming out of somebodies paycheck
[13:50:32] * wjp puts a "Not for Sale" label on the corner
[14:01:51] <shazza> what does s/int/into/ mean
[14:01:57] <shazza> is it correcting a spelling mistake
[14:02:35] <shazza> and s/ means spelling
[14:02:46] <Darke> It means to replace on the previous line, the part between the 1st and 2nd '/' with the part between the 2nd and 3rd '/'. Correcting grammer/spelling/etc.
[14:03:05] <shazza> if so that is not the way the leet west internet people where i hang out do it
[14:03:32] <shazza> say if i make a mistake, such as helo, when it is supossed to be hello.
[14:03:35] <shazza> we would either do
[14:03:37] <shazza> 1) *hello
[14:03:39] <shazza> 2) +l
[14:03:41] <Colourless> it's the way it's done in #exult, if you don't like it, then i don't care :-)
[14:03:54] <shazza> no i am fine with it, i just find my way easier
[14:03:55] <sbx> i adapted for #exult
[14:04:23] <Colourless> your way is less... precise
[14:04:34] <Darke> *shrug* s/this/that/ is a standard unix command, which is why it tends to get used in programming channels. *grin*
[14:04:52] <sbx> man sed
[14:05:05] <shazza> true Colourless, but i have never once of years using it, people have asked where abouts did you correct
[14:05:37] <Colourless> you haven't been around me enough then :-)
[14:06:01] * Darke giggles as he remembers a unix tutorial he walked into at uni. Where the tutor was explaining the 'man' command, and how it wasn't sexist, since 'man' just was shorthand for 'manual'. *grin*
[14:06:14] <shazza> also in the west we use :) not :-) lol.
[14:06:31] <Colourless> some of the crap that comes from my keyboard is virtually unrecognizable as being intended to be english
[14:07:00] <Colourless> :-) works for proportional width fonts, while :) doesn't.
[14:07:18] <sbx> Darke: i'd like to have seen a tutorial for the cd player "workman" then
[14:07:19] <Colourless> a such, i always use :-) out of habit
[14:07:22] <Darke> shazza: I've had to query it's use in about half the times I've seen it used. People just don't understand the flexability and ambiguity of half the things they say. *grin*
[14:08:21] <shazza> i come from the west internet (leet speak) you guys come from the east (english speak).
[14:08:39] * Darke uses *grin* or ^.^ as generic smilies, depending upon character, and situation usually. Only rarely does he use :) or :-), and that's only in work communication where getting the intent to 99.99% of the people is essential. *grin*
[14:08:47] <sbx> what west and east internets were was going to be my next question, really
[14:09:27] <shazza> ^.^ is used sometimes
[14:09:40] <shazza> you people are aware of the 1337 speak
[14:09:45] <sbx> =^.^=
[14:10:15] <Colourless> you are proud to have a history in leet speak?!?
[14:10:41] <shazza> really it is just being a badass and speaking with numbers instead of letters, which i hate.
[14:10:47] <shazza> but i hang around with those people
[14:10:49] <shazza> :---<
[14:10:59] <Colourless> j00 5uXoRz 5h4ZZ4
[14:11:05] <Darke> I come from groups which punish lack of precision and clarity in communications (writers, programmers, etc.) I rarely intersect with the warez/l33t/whatever crowd. Simply because I'm not willing to spend half the time asking precicely what they mean. *grin*
[14:11:16] <shazza> no Colourless, that is too far.
[14:11:38] <Colourless> i am ops here :-)
[14:11:52] <shazza> leet speak is not like that anymore. it is just being an asshole.
[14:11:57] <shazza> i am aware of that ;\
[14:12:13] * Darke has no problem with l33t speak, he just prefers to get the message across he's trying to communicate. *grin*
[14:12:30] <Colourless> ooh so you are 'elite' l33t speakers.... an oxymoron if i've ever heard of one...
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[14:12:59] <sbx> yo Fingolfin
[14:13:02] <wjp> hi
[14:13:16] <Colourless> hi
[14:13:22] <Fingolfin> lo
[14:14:41] <Darke> Greetings.
[14:18:07] * Darke performs statistical analysis on the greeting style of #exult.
[14:18:21] <sbx> yay
[14:21:34] * Darke wonders why the heck he's doing it, and gives the task to our Resident Maths Guy(tm), wjp.
[14:22:00] <wjp> I don't do statistics :-)
[14:22:13] * wjp forwards the task to Fingolfin
[14:22:31] <sbx> :-(
[14:22:35] <Fingolfin> oh, that's simple
[14:22:40] <wjp> (who most likely doesn't really do statistics either)
[14:22:41] <sbx> :-)
[14:23:05] <Colourless> insufficent sample size perhaps
[14:23:07] <Fingolfin> oh wait, does the statistic have to be correct, too?
[14:23:29] <wjp> is there such a thing as correct statistics?
[14:23:45] <Darke> Fingolfin: Within 3 orders of magnitude.
[14:24:16] <Fingolfin> oh cool, you mean, +/- 1000 ? :-)
[14:24:30] <Darke> Colourless: We've got how many years of #exult logs? *grin*
[14:24:36] <Darke> Fingolfin: Yep. *grin*
[14:24:50] <Fingolfin> anyway, 67% hi, 38% yo's, 6% lo
[14:25:07] <Fingolfin> with some measurment error 8-)
[14:25:18] * Fingolfin hopes nobody here can add
[14:25:19] <Colourless> ya think
[14:25:24] <wjp> umm
[14:25:31] * Darke snickers.
[14:25:57] * Darke thinks your instruments need just a *little* bit of calibration. *grin*
[14:26:22] <Darke> Just say your error rate is +/-20%, no one will notice. *grin*
[14:26:52] <Fingolfin> hey hey, I didn't claim the statistic matches any real data!
[14:27:57] <Colourless> eh, you could have used real figures. 20% yo, 40% hi, 20% low, 20% other
[14:28:09] <Colourless> s/low/lo/ :-)
[14:28:43] <Darke> Fingolfin: Claim your numbers have a +/-100% error rate then. No one will be able to prove anything. *grin*
[14:30:30] <wjp> actually, I might be able to prove his numbers are correct, then :-)
[14:31:06] <Fingolfin> within that error range they are certainly correct ;-)
[14:32:01] <Fingolfin> going into the garden, bbl
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[14:32:26] * wjp blinks
[14:32:33] <wjp> a garden?
[14:32:44] <wjp> instead of being behind a computer?
[14:32:54] * wjp blinks
[14:33:35] <wjp> what a weird idea :-)
[14:36:29] <Darke> *nodnod* Very weird.
[14:43:45] <sbx> time to go
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[14:53:10] <Colourless> i should go
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[16:48:35] <Darke> Greetings again.
[16:49:26] <Fingolfin> re-greet
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