#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 10 Nov 2012 (GMT)

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[00:06:15] <Serel> Aye, downloaded it from GoG. Now my concern is that Britain doesn't sell reagents. At least I found it. By accidental moongate.
[00:07:09] <Serel> Maybe the reason I consider myself to suck at older RPGs is that I'm perpetually lost
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[00:19:45] <TheCycoONE> there is a map too
[00:19:55] <TheCycoONE> and I think it says where the moongates go
[00:20:25] <TheCycoONE> or maybe they weren't mapped yet in ultima 4, I don't recall. They are deterministic though
[00:22:33] <Serel> I can only make out Britain, and the map isn't too heavily marked
[00:24:10] <Serel> Well, guess I can try to walk there
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[00:37:52] <Serel> Does left moon = where moongate appears and right moon = where it leads?
[00:43:13] <Serel> Because the moongates are a tad confusing
[00:48:13] * Serel goes back to looking for Britain's gate
[01:04:12] <TheCycoONE> yeah
[01:04:25] <TheCycoONE> they change in every ultima too ... just for fun
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[01:39:01] <Serel> Yew is a tad diff - I mean impossible to find
[02:17:23] <Serel> Is it normal to not have any idea what to do in most Ultima games?
[02:18:21] <Eviltar_> yes
[02:18:49] <Eviltar_> you kind of have to talk to people to figure out whats going on
[02:19:02] <Eviltar_> much like real life before the internet
[02:20:10] <Serel> If it makes anyone feel less bitter, there's always several obvious shots at Yahoo Answers...
[02:25:13] <Serel> Still, I've been dedicating effort to trying to shake down whoever has that Rune in Jhelom because I think it's what I have to do
[02:33:01] <Serel> Unless I've been lied to and I'm not supposed to search every town for a square with a rune in it and then do a thing at an altar
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[02:45:19] <Eviltar_> you're playing 4? you have to master the virtues
[02:45:46] <Eviltar_> i did once out of sheer determination finish 4
[02:48:17] <Eviltar_> oOoo now i have a new reason to play U6 over again
[02:48:21] <Eviltar_> (7:16:27 PM) igor242: u6 for fm towns has voice acting
[02:50:09] <Serel> fm towns?
[02:51:32] <Eviltar_> a japanese computer system
[02:51:42] <Serel> Ah.
[02:53:16] <Eviltar_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHb3cK5x5UU
[02:54:43] <Eviltar_> the real audio doesnt start untill 1 minute
[02:57:06] <Eviltar_> http://youtu.be/VsZNSsSyhUE
[02:57:22] <Eviltar_> the voice acting, richard garriott perhaps?
[02:58:59] <Serel> I assume that in Ultima IV I have to take a virtue, get points for doing it, st- I mean, legally obtain the rune from the assosciated town and go meditate in the assosciated shrine once I get the assosciated mantra?
[02:59:00] <Eviltar_> she's mean
[02:59:59] <Eviltar_> gosh its fuzzy but i seem to remember having to do things to master the virtue as well
[03:00:48] <Serel> Isn't mastering the virtue the process I just tried to describe?
[03:06:24] <Eviltar_> yeah i guess it is
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[04:31:41] <redwar> !system
[04:31:43] <redwar> hmm
[04:32:06] <redwar> !8ball What year is this?
[04:32:09] <redwar> hmm
[04:32:12] <redwar> Ok...
[04:32:28] * redwar scratches head
[04:32:33] <Serel> I'm not sure this channel even has a bot...
[04:32:44] * Eviltar_ scratches his head too
[04:32:46] <redwar> Serel ... yeah..
[04:32:57] <redwar> I was wondering about that..
[04:33:11] <redwar> This channel has been around for a bit..
[04:33:34] <redwar> Use to be alot more people long ago and far away....
[04:34:48] <redwar> So anyone here still play Ultima 7?
[04:35:08] <Eviltar_> ofc
[04:35:20] * redwar tips his hat...
[04:35:46] <Serel> I am, of course, since I'm only now playing Ultima for the first time. e
[04:35:56] <redwar> I am thinking of getting it, but it needs to work on wine, although, I am prone to run doze in parrallel withm my nix
[04:36:18] <redwar> I played Ultima ONline long ago
[04:36:29] <redwar> But it was not the same as Ultima obviously
[04:36:35] <redwar> IMHO
[04:37:48] <Eviltar_> why not use exult
[04:37:56] <Eviltar_> instead of playing it in wine
[04:38:17] <redwar> Ahh.. I did not read all of this, so this is native
[04:38:24] <redwar> Cool beans
[04:39:21] <redwar> So I can compile from tar.gz
[04:39:34] <redwar> Run this on the Buntu or Gentoo box
[04:39:40] <Serel> I'd say I missed out on Ultima... But not really, since I was kinda born after Ultima's golden age
[04:40:05] <Eviltar_> definately did miss out
[04:41:06] <redwar> Yeah.. it was a great game from what I saw, but back in the days of My Commodore , I was only given one choice..
[04:41:08] <Eviltar_> its maybe harder to enjoy them with the graphics what they were before 6 and 7, if you grew up with games that had more modern graphics
[04:41:21] <redwar> I would not say that
[04:41:35] <redwar> In fact, I think it builds up more on your imagination
[04:41:48] <Eviltar_> it might have then
[04:42:08] <Eviltar_> but for kids now growing up with realistic FPS shooters
[04:42:33] <Eviltar_> i dont think they have enough imagination to enjoy games like ultima
[04:43:03] <redwar> I play games now, and I see that they are easier than when I was a kid.. when I play Modern Warfare 3, it can get intense, but nothing beats being in a dark room with an old style desk lamp and a commodore 64c playing a good ol fashion rpg
[04:43:19] <redwar> Its one of the reasons why I use LInux
[04:43:34] <Eviltar_> you have been eaten by a grue
[04:43:38] <redwar> Although, this particular version is right now running side by side with a win 7 box.
[04:43:43] <Serel> How about a being in a dark game with an old style brass la-... Beat me to it.
[04:44:17] <redwar> heheh
[04:44:28] <redwar> Eviltar_ Zork on the 128
[04:44:46] <redwar> yeah Serel . Exactamundo
[04:45:18] <Eviltar_> if i ever put out a game, im going to hide a text adventure in the debug console for geeks
[04:46:13] <Eviltar_> only the very curious woudl even notice
[04:46:33] <redwar> I know some hackers who already give a way little usb devices for hacking that are part text adventure game.
[04:46:58] <redwar> Yeah.. I bet you someone has done that with one of the consoles
[04:47:19] <Eviltar_> you would think
[04:47:56] <redwar> I am adding this room to my faves, its good to be in a place where people appreciate when technology was new and 8-bits and 64k was alot ..
[04:49:35] <Serel> I've kinda separated myself from the next generation...
[04:50:53] <redwar> So I need to get Black Gate or Serpent's Isle i n order to make Exult play?
[04:51:31] <redwar> Serel I think we are all seperated from the next generation.
[04:51:56] <Serel> But I'm technically in the next generation... Probably
[04:52:29] <redwar> I am definitely a generation of something. lol
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[06:03:35] <Serel> Finally... I can get some reagents in Skara Brae, my mage has been starving of explosions
[06:09:57] <Serel> Garlic: 9gp. Black pearls: 8 gp. I'm not seeing the logic here.
[06:11:20] <Serel> May I ask if I can screw myself over and completely demolish a Virtue back down to nothing after already finishing everything with it?
[06:11:22] <Eviltar_> its hard to grow garlic in britanian soil
[06:11:56] <Serel> Because apparently I need to steal from LB to get the spirituality rune
[06:12:17] <Eviltar_> you can redeem yourself
[06:12:35] <Eviltar_> but iirc you need to have them all maxed out at some point
[06:12:53] <Eviltar_> y not ask him for it?
[06:13:33] <Eviltar_> LB has always been pretty cool abotu sharing
[06:15:07] <Serel> The only time I know of was Ultima VI...
[06:17:34] <Serel> Well. Now the herb shop owner is almost 2000 pounds richer and I have no cash.
[06:18:58] <Serel> Not doing a powergamer run where I unvirtuously cheat and lie my way to all the loot I can before starting to quest, obviously...
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[07:59:20] <Serel> I don't even remember which runes I have and which ones I don't off the top of my head...
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[17:48:54] <Serel> Oops, poor and taking chests would have a virtue penalty...
[18:06:25] <Serel> Fun fact: Ultima IV can get you trapped permanently with Nostro in your face.
[18:07:03] <Serel> I have no choice but to starve to death...
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[19:38:06] <Eviltar_> lol
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