#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 11 Jun 2004 (GMT)

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[14:58:59] <artaxerxes> hi all
[14:59:14] <artaxerxes> wjp: the zaurus package is ready. Where should I put it?
[14:59:26] * artaxerxes has to leave in 3 minutes
[15:03:02] <wjp> ftp://upload.sf.net/incoming
[15:03:13] <artaxerxes> great! Thx wjp
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[18:17:50] <Colourless> just so people know, i am quite aware about the release ;-)
[18:18:29] <wjp> so can we expect a windows binary soon? :-)
[18:18:36] <Colourless> uploading now
[18:18:40] <wjp> great
[18:19:27] <Colourless> speed is being a bit variable, but should only be a few minutes
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[18:21:18] <Colourless> i can't believe it... 1.2 finally :-)
[18:21:32] <wjp> :-)
[18:26:33] <Colourless> done
[18:27:30] <Baastuul> Neun und neunzig luftballoons.
[18:27:50] <Colourless> translation please
[18:28:07] <Baastuul> It's a song. :)
[18:28:11] <Baastuul> 99 Luftballoons by Nena.
[18:28:22] <wjp> 'balloons'?
[18:28:25] <Colourless> i know... i would still like a translation though :-)
[18:28:45] <Baastuul> 99 Air balloons
[18:28:50] <EsBee-Eks> i know the song
[18:28:51] <wjp> the english version of the song is 99 red balloons
[18:29:09] <Baastuul> I don't much like the English version, though.
[18:29:15] <Baastuul> It sounds very... forced.
[18:29:21] <wjp> I haven't heard the english version AFAIK
[18:29:29] <Baastuul> It's not as good as the German version.
[18:29:37] <EsBee-Eks> the PS2 game Gran Turismo 3 has the english version as one of the tracks
[18:29:49] <Baastuul> I downloaded the music video of the German one yesterday, it's so cheesy. :)
[18:30:00] <Colourless> GTA Vice City has the German Version :-)
[18:38:35] <Baastuul> Huh, heh, always thought it was "99 Luftballoons," didn't know it was just one "o." :p
[18:39:21] <wjp> luftballoons doesn't sound right at all :-)
[18:40:00] <Baastuul> I'm just an uncultured Amamrican schmuck is all. :)
[18:40:27] <wjp> well, you're listening to german music already :-)
[18:41:51] <Baastuul> haha
[18:42:19] <Colourless> well, it's arguable that you are actually going worse by doing that
[18:42:44] <wjp> :-)
[18:46:23] <Baastuul> Losing IQ points by the moment.
[18:46:27] <Baastuul> By the second!
[18:46:28] <Colourless> uh.... the win32 release is broken
[18:46:41] <wjp> good thing we haven't announced it yet, then :-)
[18:46:47] <wjp> what's wrong with it?
[18:47:00] <wjp> exult itself or the packaging, btw?
[18:47:11] <Colourless> packaging
[18:48:01] <Colourless> doens't have the doc images
[18:56:55] <Colourless> reuploading
[19:03:33] <Colourless> ok, that should be it this time
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[19:26:15] <bpellin> Hey, anyone around?
[19:34:46] <EsBee-Eks> hi
[19:37:46] <wjp> hi
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[19:58:05] <EsBee-Eks> ok
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[21:08:17] <wjp> wb
[21:12:40] <bpellin> So, can I still complete a game where I clicked on the pillars in the Silver Seed?
[21:13:00] <wjp> hm, tough question
[21:13:35] <wjp> did you already visit that pillar outside the SS?
[21:13:49] <bpellin> Nope
[21:14:11] <bpellin> And I completed the whole test dealy before I realized exactly what screwed up
[21:14:21] <bpellin> Then I turned on cheats, and went back to where I should have been
[21:14:23] <wjp> no savegame just before activating the pillar?
[21:14:36] <bpellin> Nope
[21:14:57] <wjp> hmm, what happened after completing the test?
[21:15:15] <bpellin> I was teleported to the large city of serpent ruins
[21:15:20] <wjp> did the gargoyle talk to you?
[21:15:31] <bpellin> I think I may have avoided that
[21:15:42] <bpellin> I cheated back to the silver seed before doing much there
[21:15:50] <wjp> hm
[21:16:04] <wjp> as I said before, tough question :-)
[21:16:31] <bpellin> Well, I'll keep playing through and hopefully when I'm supposed to do the test, I can cheat back to the ruin city
[21:16:49] <wjp> you'll be in that city before taking the test
[21:16:56] <wjp> so that won't be the problem, probably
[21:17:19] <bpellin> hmmm...., I don't remember the exact sequence that plays through
[21:17:32] <wjp> although I guess you may get stuck just outside the city if the person opening the drawbridge isn't there
[21:18:13] <bpellin> I guess, I'll still be satisfied if I can use the cheats to somehow get the plot back on track at that point
[21:18:41] <wjp> I'll probably be able to figure what to do at that point
[21:19:06] <wjp> it may help that you don't actually have to pass that test succesfully to finish that part of the game
[21:19:26] <wjp> (there's a second test you can take if you failed the first one)
[21:19:49] <bpellin> that should probably be possible, right?
[21:20:45] <wjp> what should?
[21:21:09] <bpellin> To cheat my way back on track
[21:21:21] <bpellin> I didn't realize there was a second test, huh (the first one wasn't very hard)
[21:22:27] <wjp> second one is even easier :-)
[21:22:39] <wjp> but I expect you'll be able to get back on track
[21:23:01] <bpellin> cool
[21:23:56] <bpellin> where'd that teleport on the pillars come from? that wasn't in the original was it?
[21:24:17] <wjp> yeah, it was in the original as well
[21:24:58] <wjp> the designers of the Silver Seed apparently accidentally used some nice looking pillar graphics, not realizing they had a script attached to them
[21:25:06] <bpellin> lol
[21:25:25] <wjp> hm, wait a sec, that reminds me
[21:25:30] <bpellin> I find some satisfaction in the fact that exult carries over bugs from the original
[21:25:44] <wjp> there's an "anti walkthrough", or "evil walkthrough" around that exploits that bug
[21:26:01] <wjp> so it should probably tell you what to do to get around any negative effects
[21:26:13] <bpellin> Yah, I think that rings a bell for me too
[21:26:37] <bpellin> Is that the one that used the spell that turns yourself into a snake to exploit some things
[21:27:46] <wjp> http://it-he.org/starless.htm
[21:28:17] <wjp> step 19 is the pillar bug
[21:28:30] <wjp> but it doesn't appear to really help
[21:28:56] <wjp> it continues cheating at that point, unsurprisingly :-)
[21:30:11] <bpellin> heh
[21:30:18] <bpellin> pretty amusing walkthrough though
[21:30:25] <wjp> yeah :-)
[21:30:39] <bpellin> nothing with the actual cheats though I think, all in-game flaws
[21:31:03] * wjp nods
[21:31:17] <wjp> I meant cheating in the loose sense :-)
[21:38:04] <bpellin> Right
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[23:17:58] <wjp> hi
[23:18:55] <curiousis> hello hello, how's it going?
[23:19:17] <wjp> pretty good :-)
[23:19:25] <wjp> 1.2 is as good as released
[23:19:53] <curiousis> swank... though I always just use the snapshots anyway
[23:20:36] <curiousis> I decided to play around with Exult studio again. Been a long time since I've mucked around with it.
[23:23:01] <curiousis> I really am amazed... I mean I've followed Exult since like 2000 and what you Exult folks have done is damned impressive.
[23:25:02] * curiousis teabags exultbot
[23:25:44] <Baastuul> :O
[23:33:37] <wjp> hm, time for me to go
[23:33:39] <wjp> night
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