#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 11 Nov 2001 (GMT)

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[13:42:19] <wjp> ugh... someone attached a savegame in .exe format
[13:42:26] <wjp> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=480290&group_id=2335&atid=102335
[13:42:40] <wjp> hey, nice, it works with wine :-)
[13:43:00] <Colourless> exe????
[13:43:04] <Colourless> are they mad
[13:44:46] <wjp> http://exult.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=635&t=635
[13:44:50] <wjp> if you want to reply :-)
[13:45:45] <Colourless> ok
[13:47:28] <wjp> anyway, Wine scored another point :-)
[13:47:43] <wjp> I wonder if it supports most SFX-creators
[13:54:59] <Colourless> i would imagine it would
[13:55:27] <wjp> yeah, they typically use only a very small subset of the winapi
[14:03:20] * SharpTooth unidles and boggles, twice. "Nice responce, by the way." <grin>
[14:06:55] <wjp> Colourless: maybe he just wanted his bug to be fixed by you :-)
[14:08:06] <Colourless> :-)
[17:02:39] <SharpTooth> Got to go. <bow> Bye!
[17:02:42] <wjp> bye
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[17:20:30] <Colourless> autoop is turned off again
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[17:31:13] <wjp> >chanserv< access #exult list
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[17:32:14] <Colourless> i've got what it was
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[17:33:40] <wjp> can't do much with that while chanserv doesn't recognize the channel :-(
[17:41:00] <wjp> umm, oops... while there is no chanserv, I mean
[17:41:31] <Colourless> :-)
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[18:01:55] <wjp> ok, it's back :-)
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[20:59:22] <wjp> hmm, someone on the forum suggested an u9-style belt
[20:59:47] <wjp> wouldn't even be that hard to do, I guess
[21:00:00] <Colourless> no, not really
[21:01:43] <wjp> we do have to decide 'where' the objects on the belt are
[21:02:02] <wjp> (on the avatar, or 'in the party' but not on a specfic NPC, or ...)
[21:02:37] <Colourless> yeah. it would theoretically just be a new container and gump
[21:03:09] <wjp> but would it be (usecode container style) invisible on the avatar?
[21:03:27] <Colourless> could be done like that
[21:03:32] <wjp> or just an actual visible belt, of course
[21:03:38] <Colourless> but how to show it?
[21:04:00] <wjp> just as in U9?
[21:04:12] <Colourless> a visible belt isn't a bad idea
[21:04:37] <wjp> there's even already a belt slot in the paperdoll
[21:04:55] <Colourless> yeah I know, but it is already used
[21:05:08] <wjp> so?
[21:06:00] <Colourless> nothing really. it would just mean that if the avatar is wearing the belt, he wouldn't be able to equip anything else to the slot. not that it matters really. the belt itself can hold more items
[21:06:13] * wjp nods
[21:06:25] <wjp> small price to pay :-)
[21:06:46] <Colourless> yeah :-)
[21:07:11] <wjp> then there's the issue of face stats and belt competing for space
[21:07:19] <Colourless> yeah
[21:07:40] <wjp> we could do face stats at the top and belt at the bottom, but that might be a bit crowded
[21:07:56] <Colourless> indeed.
[21:08:07] <Colourless> of course, it's optional
[21:08:08] <wjp> or increase resolution to 320x240 if using the belt?
[21:08:18] <Colourless> 40 pixels should be enough
[21:08:39] <Colourless> of course if people want they can play at 400x300 (provided they can use that)
[21:09:03] <wjp> or 800x600 if they've got a >10Ghz machine :-)
[21:09:23] <Colourless> 10 gig hey ;-)
[21:09:49] <Colourless> you really think exult is *that* future proof
[21:09:58] <matto> 10 ghz machine required for 800x600, eh?
[21:10:28] <matto> Colourless: I think exult will be around for a long time
[21:10:50] <wjp> depends on your definition of 'around' :-)
[21:11:29] <matto> I mean people will keep the source code up to date so that it compiles on whatever is current and people will still use it well into the future
[21:11:51] <wjp> would be nice :-)
[21:12:06] <Colourless> well, 10 ghz should be here in 3 and a half to 4 years. not unreasonable to expect exult to still be around then
[21:12:11] <matto> right
[21:12:15] <wjp> no, not at all
[21:12:34] <wjp> ...anyway... back to the belt :-)
[21:12:41] <wjp> what about spell-shortcuts?
[21:12:44] <matto> I just played all the way through Day of the Tentacle last night using the ScummVM project ... not bad for only their 3rd release.
[21:12:55] <wjp> you can play DotT on linux?
[21:13:05] <matto> you can finish the came on linux :)
[21:13:06] <Colourless> wjp, good question
[21:13:08] <matto> err game
[21:13:26] <wjp> hmm, might have to look up the disks (uh oh, floppies...) sometime then
[21:14:13] <matto> those floppies might have the copy protection built into the script (kind of like ultima 7 hehe)
[21:15:00] <wjp> Colourless: would be nice to allow it, but would involving 'draggability' of spellbook buttons
[21:15:08] <wjp> s/involving/involve/
[21:15:22] <wjp> (it we do it the way U9 did it, that is)
[21:15:40] <wjp> matto: what kind of protection did it have? I really can't remember :/
[21:16:02] <matto> wjp: I think you have to lookup a word in the manual or something
[21:16:15] <wjp> hmm, I should still have the manual around
[21:16:21] <Colourless> wjp: yeah. what do you think about auto equipping weapons. i would think it would be too hard to impliment a single belt for the entire party
[21:17:30] <wjp> I think I'd keep it strictly for one person
[21:18:08] <wjp> (ie. the person who's wearing it)
[21:19:26] <Colourless> yeah
[21:19:40] <Colourless> and only spells if it's the avatar wearing it?
[21:20:15] <wjp> we wouldn't have to add that restriction, I guess
[21:20:27] <wjp> spells will have to be a special case anyway
[21:20:39] <Colourless> no, probably not.
[21:22:43] <Colourless> the belt however sounds a bit too much like a new feature which really shouldn't be added when we are going beta
[21:23:02] <wjp> I was just about to say it would be a nice feature for that 'experimental' branch :-)
[21:23:14] <Colourless> yeah
[21:30:44] <wjp> I'll add this to the feature request tracker. (with a link to today's logs)
[21:30:55] <Colourless> ok
[21:36:04] <wjp> key shortcuts for spells should be easy to do too
[21:36:20] <wjp> I could just add an ActionCastSpell
[21:36:33] <Colourless> yeah
[21:37:17] <wjp> I'll probably add that sometime this week
[21:41:33] * wjp thinks it's past his bedtime :-)
[21:41:36] <wjp> goodnight
[21:41:48] <Colourless> cya
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