[00:05:25] <wjp> time to go; g'night
[00:06:10] <Fingolfin> that'S an odd cliche, wjp
[00:07:08] <insertclichehere> i think i've heard it before though
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[01:21:06] <Sheng_Gradilla> back
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[08:51:30] <Tuth> hi all
[08:51:42] <Tuth> i tried the mt32 emu
[08:52:22] <Tuth> the dos version is not bad , but the windows version is not useable ....
[08:52:31] <Tuth> why?
[10:35:34] <wjp> hi
[10:35:41] <wjp> mt32 emu?
[10:38:16] <wjp> or rather: I know of one mt32 emu, but a dos version?
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[12:26:17] <Tuth> the dos version is
[12:26:24] <Tuth> goog
[12:26:27] <Tuth> good
[12:27:00] <Tuth> the win version is totaly bad
[12:27:22] <wjp> yes, you said that; but which mt32 emu are you talking about?
[12:27:30] <Tuth> yes
[12:27:55] <Tuth> the roland mt32 emu
[12:28:25] <Tuth> tried in the dosbox with oldgames
[12:29:13] <Tuth> and tried the win driver version
[12:29:38] <wjp> ah, the _dosbox_ version
[12:30:04] <wjp> so what does that have to do with exult? I'm a bit confused
[12:30:15] <Tuth> yes other version is exist ?
[12:30:21] <Tuth> in dos mode?
[12:31:57] <Tuth> possible to make an a VSTi version of mt32?
[12:34:17] <wjp> what does this have to do with exult?
[12:34:23] <wjp> you've totally lost me
[12:35:08] <wjp> are you trying to get exult working with the windows mt32 emu? are you trying to get ultima 7 working in dosbox with the dosbox mt32 emu?
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[12:36:26] <Tuth> the dosbox version is ok for me
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[15:53:41] <Colourless> hi
[16:00:36] <Colourless> just an FYI: The MT32EMU Windows driver doesn't work with SDL based apps for whatever reason. This means it doesn't work with exult.
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[18:48:34] <Dominus> hi
[18:50:33] <Dominus> hep hep, lets make a new intro for u7 :-)
[18:50:45] <Colourless> :-)
[18:51:04] <Colourless> that person seems like trouble
[18:51:13] <Dominus> smells like troll spirit
[18:51:15] <wjp> yeah, and we can do one for Ultima Adventures at the same time! ;-P
[18:51:47] <Dominus> damn, it's not my fault that Ultima Adventures and Underworld Adventures is so similar :-)
[18:52:23] <Dominus> sounds so simialr :-)
[18:52:34] <Colourless> that may be true, but it is your fault for not checking :-)
[18:52:54] <Dominus> hmm, I give up
[18:53:36] <Colourless> :-)
[19:06:37] <Dominus> I think it is best to ignore that person for now :-)
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[21:09:26] <Rizzy> Hi there..
[21:13:02] <Rizzy> Anyone around?
[21:14:20] <sbx> yeah
[21:14:32] <Rizzy> I have a question..
[21:15:08] <Rizzy> when I try to build exult 1.1.10 or whatever the latest version is..
[21:15:23] <Rizzy> it gives me an error saying it can't find Xlib.h and Xatom.h
[21:16:02] <wjp> sounds like you need to install the X devel package
[21:16:52] <Rizzy> That's what I was wondering.. xlibs-dev ??
[21:17:47] <wjp> that might be it, yes
[21:18:26] <Rizzy> I looked it up at debian its in a few things but that looks like the one that's most useful.
[21:18:46] <wjp> "X Window System client library development files" sounds correct
[21:19:26] <Rizzy> For sure.
[21:20:20] <Rizzy> Herm, well thanks again, for helping me.
[21:20:37] * Rizzy keeps coming back here to ask stupid questions :P
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[21:57:49] <Rizzy> Hi there..
[21:58:47] <Rizzy> Is anybody around?
[21:59:39] <wjp> maybe :-)
[21:59:44] <Rizzy> hehe
[22:00:02] <Rizzy> Well, I ran into another problem compiling exult..
[22:00:10] <Rizzy> This one I don't understand at all..
[22:01:42] <Rizzy> /home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2/xdrag.cc:87: undefined reference to `XInternAtom'
[22:01:51] <Rizzy> I get all these error msgs like that..
[22:02:07] <wjp> what's the first error message?
[22:02:33] <Rizzy> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[22:02:33] <Rizzy> make: *** [exult] Error 1
[22:02:33] <Rizzy> make: Leaving directory `/home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2'
[22:02:33] <Rizzy> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[22:02:33] <Rizzy> make: Leaving directory `/home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2'
[22:02:36] <Rizzy> make: *** [all] Error 2
[22:02:39] <Rizzy> That's the final oupout..
[22:02:41] <wjp> that's the last :-)
[22:02:55] <Rizzy> /home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2/xdrag.cc:51: undefined reference to `XQueryTree' is first.
[22:03:00] <Rizzy> and all that stuff is last
[22:03:05] <wjp> no missing header file above that?
[22:03:27] <Rizzy> nope.
[22:04:26] <Rizzy> The only things I can think of is because i have an old version of gcc, or I need to upgrade gtk..
[22:04:36] <wjp> this is unrelated to gtk
[22:05:15] <Rizzy> Okay.. XQueryTree etc kinda looked like a widget to me.. I really don't know anything about it though :P
[22:05:36] <wjp> "XQueryTree - query window tree information"
[22:05:56] <Rizzy> There's maybe 10 undefined references ..
[22:06:35] <wjp> XQueryTree, XInternAtom, XChangeProperty, XGetAtomName, XGetWindowProperty, ... ?
[22:06:42] <Rizzy> Those are the ones.
[22:07:09] <wjp> and you're really sure there are no missing file errors?
[22:07:39] <Rizzy> Yes.
[22:07:54] <Rizzy> xdrag.o: In function `Get_window_coords(_XDisplay *, unsigned long, int &, int &)':
[22:08:07] <Rizzy> It says that then starts listing the undefined references.
[22:08:23] <wjp> and right above that is the compile command?
[22:08:45] <Rizzy> make: Entering directory `/home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2'
[22:08:47] <Rizzy> /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link g++ -O2 -Wno-long-long -g -O2 -o exult actions.
[22:09:09] <Rizzy> It says that, everything above it is just leaving and entering directories...
[22:09:17] <wjp> oh, while linking?
[22:09:22] <Rizzy> ?
[22:09:25] <Rizzy> make: Entering directory `/home/rizzy/exult-1.1.10rc2'
[22:09:33] <Rizzy> woops.
[22:10:07] <Rizzy> Well I'm guessing because i've tried to compile it a few times, its already done everything in those directories.
[22:10:10] <wjp> hm, I vaguely remember debian needing some extra library settings
[22:10:28] <Rizzy> Do you know how I can find those out?
[22:13:34] <wjp> are you using bash or tcsh?
[22:14:34] <Rizzy> bash
[22:14:46] <wjp> try the following before running configure:
[22:16:42] <wjp> export LIBS="-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext"
[22:16:42] <wjp> (then run configure and make again)
[22:16:42] <Rizzy> okay, I'll try that..
[22:16:42] <Rizzy> thanks!
[22:45:27] <Rizzy> Do I need to have ultima 7 in the exult dir, or exult in the Ultima 7 dir?
[22:45:32] <Rizzy> Or doesn't matter?
[22:45:54] <Dominus> doesn't matter
[22:45:59] <Rizzy> Kay.
[22:46:03] <Dominus> you need to edit .exult.cfg
[22:46:16] <Rizzy> yeah, and just put the path in?
[22:46:17] <Dominus> wherever you find that file :-)
[22:46:27] <Dominus> yup, just put the path in
[22:46:29] <Rizzy> last time it was in my home dir..
[22:46:38] <Rizzy> and /etc :P
[22:48:00] <wjp> if you build exult yourself it won't look in /etc anymore
[22:48:15] <Rizzy> okay
[22:48:31] <Rizzy> I need a faster computer, this is taking forever :P
[22:51:38] <Dominus> exult will always take forevr to be build :-)
[22:51:48] <Rizzy> Yeah its a long one..
[22:51:55] <Dominus> we are making sure of that every next computer generation :-)
[22:52:09] <Rizzy> ?
[22:52:36] <Dominus> it's late for me and I'm wasted :-)
[22:52:55] <Rizzy> hehe
[22:54:19] <Rizzy> I need a ruler as well..
[22:56:26] <Dominus> I'm leaving. Rizzy, hope it will work or you now.
[22:56:29] <Dominus> good night
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[23:16:37] <wjp> I have to go too; night
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