#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 12 Jan 2002 (GMT)

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[07:10:13] * Darke bows. "Hello all."
[07:15:14] <Amy> Yo.
[07:15:20] <Amy> My email is broken.
[07:16:50] <Darke> Just emailing to the exult mailing list is broken, or all of it? I _was_ wondering why we were lacking a thousand "this thing doesn't work right" emails from you. <grin>
[07:18:03] <Amy> All of my email is broken.
[07:18:06] <Amy> I can neither send nor receive.
[07:18:13] <Amy> And I'm the only one on my server having trouble.
[07:18:16] <Amy> Annoying.
[07:18:36] <Amy> I've only got one real complaint, and Jeff's heard it already. I just wanted to elaborate on it.
[07:18:57] * Darke nods.
[07:19:13] <Amy> I'm still trying to figure out what I would need for greater ease.
[07:19:25] <Amy> The rest of my problems are all with the BG data.
[07:19:42] <Amy> The idiotic sorting of the object data bugs me.
[07:20:01] <Amy> The shape and chunk order is... bizarre.
[07:20:57] <Amy> The ability to sort shapes by name would be nice.
[08:43:44] <Amy> Wheeeeee.
[08:47:55] * Darke earperks. "Wheeeeee? Just making some noise since the channel is so quiet are you?" <grin>
[08:48:39] <Amy> Yep.
[08:48:42] <Amy> Oh, now, that's neat.
[08:48:52] <Amy> If I delete Iolo, he pops up just offscreen.
[08:51:52] <Amy> Here's an annoying bug.
[08:52:34] <Darke> Hmm?
[08:53:21] <Amy> I've got little papers flying all over the screen.
[08:53:27] <Amy> As if I did a dnd, but I'm not.
[08:53:38] <Amy> Oftentimes dragging behind shapes I /have/ dragged.
[08:54:10] <Darke> Weird.
[08:54:15] <Amy> Yeah.
[08:54:24] <Amy> I wish I could make a bug report.
[08:54:40] <Amy> Wanna complain to the mailing list.
[08:55:38] * Darke laughs evilly, perhaps it was the Exult Cabal (TINEC), that temporarally shut down your email access.
[08:56:48] <Amy> Riight.
[09:11:15] <Amy> Do me a favor, and send me an email directly?
[09:17:24] <Amy> Okay, this is WEIRD.
[09:17:31] <Amy> But I should sleep.
[09:17:35] <Amy> So I'll write myself a note.
[09:18:03] <Amy> I'm getting 'blocked' errors while trying to place stuff in map editing mode.
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[11:07:47] <Corkus> hello ppl :)
[11:08:36] <Corkus> serpent isle keeps crashing on me, can anyone tell me whats wrong with it>
[11:14:46] <Darke> Hello. <bow> It'd love to help, but it's not likely that I may be able to.
[11:15:31] <Corkus> ah why not?
[11:17:15] * Darke hides in dark corners and works on thinks such as the mythical ucxt, and is currently fiddling with the configuration file stuff. He doesn't know enough about the 'main' part of exult to be of much help.
[11:27:38] <Corkus> ah wellz
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[11:47:46] <wjp> hi
[11:49:41] <Darke> Hello. <bow>
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[11:54:51] <Colourless> hi
[11:54:55] <wjp> hi
[11:54:56] <Darke> Hello.
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[15:12:35] <wjp> hi
[15:12:39] <destruct> hi
[15:12:43] <Colourless> hi
[15:13:12] <Darke> Hello.
[15:15:19] <destruct> heh
[15:15:29] <destruct> I got ucxt working by the way
[15:15:40] * Darke thinks it's a bit quiet, if the entire conversation in... almost 4 hours consists entirely of 'hi's. <grin>
[15:15:43] <destruct> if you remember I was in here a while back asking about it
[15:16:04] <destruct> heh
[15:16:28] <wjp> Darke: well, there were also a few 'Hello."'s ;-)
[15:16:29] <Darke> <nod> I seem to remember something about that, lost in the mists of my memory somewhere. <grin>
[15:16:52] <Darke> wjp: And a '<bow>'. <grin>
[15:17:07] <Colourless> i didn't get a bow!
[15:17:57] * Darke digs around in his portable hole, and pulls out a longbow and half a dozen arrows. "Here."
[15:18:05] <Colourless> cool!
[15:18:27] * Colourless fires 6 arrows as this annoying black rabbit
[15:19:27] * Darke wonders how exactly Colourless can fire the longbow, given the fact his wings will be in the road, when he tries to draw it back. <grin>
[15:20:29] <wjp> Darke: dragons can polymorph to human form :-)
[15:20:46] <wjp> (the UDIC variety can, anyway)
[15:20:54] * Darke bats away the six arrows with a few tentacles that appear out of nowhere.
[15:21:17] <Colourless> evil i tell you, that rabbit is evil! the spawn of the devil it is
[15:21:30] <Colourless> of course, that 'would' make sense :-)
[15:23:34] * Darke grins. "Nah, I've just got a doefriend who's a mage that specialises in biomorphing."
[15:25:47] * destruct compiles a snapshot
[15:25:56] <destruct> hmm, this should only take a couple of hours
[15:27:41] <Darke> Depends if you're using gcc3.0.3 or not... it's got to be at least twice as slow as gcc2.9.5. <ickfluff>
[15:28:19] <destruct> probably
[15:28:26] <destruct> whatever is in debian/unstable
[15:28:55] <destruct> having a p200 doesn't help
[15:29:09] <Colourless> ouch
[15:29:13] * Darke has no idea, he compiled his from source.
[15:30:41] <Darke> Although whatever they did to it's optimisations made ucxt run alot faster... OTOP, it could just be that I compiled it to properly take advantage of my processor, rather then I presume an i386 for the one straight out of the distro.
[15:31:59] * Darke however, must go, and sleep. "Night all."
[15:32:12] <Colourless> cya
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[16:40:00] <Fingolfin> hi
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[16:40:07] <Colourless> hi
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[17:58:25] <wjp|dinner> my turn :-)
[17:58:28] <wjp|dinner> bbl
[17:59:09] <Fingolfin> =)
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[18:26:38] <Colourless> time to go
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[20:28:24] <destruct> damn
[20:28:28] <destruct> compilation error
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[21:43:36] <Amy> Hmph.
[21:43:55] <Fingolfin> Hpmh
[21:44:00] <Fingolfin> Phmh?
[21:44:20] <wjp> mhph?
[21:45:27] <Amy> Composing reply to Jeff.
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[22:08:02] <wjp> hi
[22:08:07] <Corkus> fingolfin does serpent isle crash on you a lot?
[22:08:08] <Corkus> hi
[22:16:42] <Corkus> or anyone else?
[22:17:03] <wjp> hmm, no, not really
[22:17:16] <wjp> any specific things that cause crashes?
[22:17:27] <Corkus> nah i just walk around and it quits
[22:17:46] <Corkus> at the start i just walk for a bit and get to lord marsden
[22:17:57] <Corkus> then dupre appears inside the walls of the cave
[22:18:30] <Corkus> is there any way to speed up the npc's ?
[22:18:48] <wjp> increasing the fps might help; not sure, though
[22:18:53] <Corkus> nah it doesnt
[22:19:00] <Corkus> they walk really slow
[22:19:37] <Amy> They tend to do that.
[22:19:47] <Corkus> :)
[22:26:17] <Corkus> hmmmmm when i play u7 with exult its still very buggy
[22:29:32] <wjp> our bug tracker, where you can submit bug reports, is at http://sf.net/bugs/?group_id=2335
[22:35:27] <Corkus> but its a random thing
[22:35:38] <Corkus> walk here for 10 mins
[22:35:44] <Corkus> and it exits to windows
[22:35:44] <wjp> hm, what version/OS are you using?
[22:35:51] <Corkus> windows98
[22:36:06] <wjp> and exult?
[22:36:48] <wjp> beta1 or a more recent snapshot?
[22:37:56] <Amy> I need to get timidity working.
[22:38:20] <Corkus> using the snapshot verison
[22:39:28] <wjp> the next time it crashes, could you take a look at the contents of stderr.txt and stdout.txt?
[22:39:38] <Corkus> okies
[22:39:46] <Corkus> what do i do with it?
[22:40:08] <wjp> see if there's anything in it that might indicate what caused the crash
[22:40:17] <Corkus> ah ok
[23:05:52] <wjp> yay, translucency is working in pentagram
[23:21:32] * Fingolfin is back
[23:21:37] <Fingolfin> translucency?
[23:21:37] <wjp> wb
[23:21:43] <wjp> yeah
[23:21:49] <wjp> some things look a lot better now :-)
[23:21:59] <wjp> Stratos is no longer green, for example :-)
[23:24:07] <Fingolfin> heheh
[23:25:59] <wjp> committed
[23:28:58] <wjp> ugh, compile errors
[23:29:03] <wjp> (in exult, not pentagram)
[23:29:51] <wjp> WARNING: 'automake' is missing on your system.
[23:29:52] <wjp> eh?
[23:30:32] <Fingolfin> don't look at me, I didn't even touch CVS today!
[23:30:48] <wjp> hmm, might be the automake upgrade
[23:30:55] * wjp does a fresh autogen, configure and make
[23:32:03] <wjp> new automake mechanism seems to have a lot less overhead
[23:32:10] <wjp> (1.5 vs 1.4)
[23:36:02] <Amy> Wheee.
[23:36:46] <Fingolfin> yeah
[23:36:49] <exultbot> Wheee!
[23:36:55] <Amy> ...
[23:37:03] <exultbot> :-)
[23:37:17] * Amy looks for the strings.
[23:37:27] * wjp tries to look innocent
[23:37:40] * wjp slowly backs away from the strings
[23:40:31] <wjp> hm, the current conf/ code doesn't seem to screw up my .exult.cfg
[23:40:35] <wjp> (re. Jeff's email)
[23:40:58] <wjp> oops
[23:41:03] <wjp> I take that back
[23:42:12] <wjp> hmm
[23:42:29] <wjp> it seems to randomly drop closing tags
[23:42:37] * Amy takes a look at hers.
[23:43:02] <Amy> This must have shown up within the last day or two, because it's not happening on mine.
[23:43:48] <wjp> I'll check the last two days of changes, then
[23:45:25] <Amy> I pulled this snapshot the other day.
[23:45:43] <Amy> Might check 3 or so, though, because I downloaded the compressed snapshot, which seems to lag sometimes.
[23:46:10] <wjp> yesterday's changes look most likely to have broken it
[23:46:14] <wjp> (from the changelog)
[23:47:52] <Amy> 'Kay.
[23:48:03] <Amy> I still don't have timidity going.
[23:48:14] <wjp> what's the problem?
[23:48:35] <wjp> oooh... bad... conf/ uses hardcoded '\n''s
[23:56:51] <wjp> hmm, a boolean variable with the value 97? doesn't sound right, does it?
[23:59:24] * wjp fixes broken copy constructor and crosses fingers