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[00:45:55] <EazyCheez> Hey guys!
[00:46:10] <EazyCheez> so Release Candidate is coming/
[00:46:19] <EazyCheez> tomorrow hopefully
[00:49:17] <Kirben> yes release anytime now
[00:49:18] <Kirben> no difference to last snapshot though except for some documentaiton and version changes.
[01:10:11] <EazyCheez> ah
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[09:01:21] <SoulDREAM> anyone here?
[09:05:45] <Kirben> yes
[09:06:30] <SoulDREAM> i have question
[09:06:45] <SoulDREAM> what do i need in cygwin to compile pentagram?
[09:07:17] <Kirben> use mingw not cygwin
[09:07:24] <Kirben> www.mingw.org
[09:07:27] <SoulDREAM> ok
[09:07:28] <SoulDREAM> thanks
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[10:41:50] <Fingolfin> yo
[10:55:12] <SoulDREAM> a
[10:55:16] <SoulDREAM> bcd+e
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[11:02:22] <sb-x> hello
[11:02:28] <SoulDREAM> hello
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[13:12:36] <Colourless> hi
[13:16:58] <Kirben> Hi Colourless
[13:18:32] <Kirben> could recent zlib bug be cause of some of the exult saved game corruption ? http://www.gzip.org/zlib/advisory-2002-03-11.txt
[13:19:24] <Colourless> i seriously wouldn't think so
[13:20:14] <Colourless> this problem requires specific malicious intent by the end user in order to screw with exult
[13:20:47] <Kirben> ok
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[13:26:47] <Nadir> hi
[13:26:51] <Colourless> hi
[13:27:12] <Nadir> anyone produced binaries of rc1 yet ?
[13:27:20] <Colourless> not yet
[13:27:44] <Colourless> i still need to do a commit to cvs before i'm ready
[13:28:13] <Colourless> i'll do it in about a minute
[13:28:25] <Kirben> btw hold off on an exult studio release if you do one. I want to rebuild tools, since new libs are out.
[13:28:49] <Fingolfin> yo
[13:29:01] <Nadir> ExultStudio shouldn't really be *officialy* released. It can go on as a snapshot
[13:29:02] <Fingolfin> I am working on binaries
[13:29:15] <Nadir> I'll try to produce a deb
[13:29:26] <Kirben> ok that will be easier
[13:29:28] <Fingolfin> Colourless: I think jeff already tagged CVS (I am not sure though), you should probably re-tag any changes
[13:29:58] * Fingolfin agress with Nadir on Studio
[13:29:59] <Colourless> sign,
[13:30:02] <Colourless> sigh i mean
[13:30:09] <Fingolfin> s/agress/agrees/
[13:30:20] <Colourless> i said to him to wait till we are all ready :-)
[13:30:37] <Fingolfin> hm, maybe I am wrong, let me look
[13:30:40] <Colourless> i still have 2 version numbers to update
[13:30:41] <Nadir> but did he listen
[13:30:50] <Nadir> noooo :)
[13:31:07] <Nadir> and then it's a fight with SF's release manager :)
[13:31:21] <Nadir> if that hasn't been improved lately
[13:31:22] <Fingolfin> he did tag
[13:31:32] <Fingolfin> it works just fine, at least for me =)
[13:31:39] <Fingolfin> the FRM I mean
[13:31:42] <Colourless> so, what am I to do?
[13:31:45] <Fingolfin> moving a tag isn't that hard, though
[13:32:54] <Fingolfin> Colourless: I could tell you the command lines needed to move a tag, if that helps
[13:33:08] <Colourless> :-)
[13:33:16] * Colourless doesn't really have a choice
[13:33:48] <Fingolfin> just say: cvs tag -F Release0_98RC1 file1 file2 file3 ...
[13:33:58] <Fingolfin> the -F will move an existing tag
[13:34:22] <Colourless> ok, so i only need to do that for the files i commit and that's it?
[13:35:37] <Fingolfin> yeah
[13:35:42] <Fingolfin> isn't that hard, is it? =)
[13:36:08] * Colourless notes that he might have caused some of the confusion about this, it could be argued that I hinted that I had done everything i needed to... when infact i hadn't
[13:37:42] <Colourless> ok, done
[13:38:28] <Nadir> I need to do that for debian build files
[13:40:07] <Kirben> one sugestion before release, can you rename makefile.cygwin to makefile.mingw ? too many people trying to use cygwin to compile it...
[13:40:44] <Colourless> hmm, but Makefile.win32 is meant for cygwin
[13:40:59] <Colourless> s/cygwin/mingw/
[13:41:54] <Kirben> if you mean makefile.cygwin is meant for cygwin shell, then there is the official native mingw shell too (msys)
[13:42:06] <Colourless> no, that's not what i meant at all :-)
[13:42:37] <Colourless> i meant that the Makefile.win32 is meant for bare mingw, with no shell, .cygwin is meant for mingw under cygwin
[13:43:31] <Colourless> naming the mingw built under cygwin to .mingw might just confuse things for non cygwin users
[13:45:37] <Kirben> I guess either way is confusing
[13:46:00] <Colourless> .cygwin.mingw might be better or something
[13:47:00] <Kirben> maybe just mention difference in the docs ?
[13:47:18] <Colourless> for now that would be easiest
[13:56:37] <Fingolfin> when will we update the front page, btw? =)
[13:56:49] <Colourless> not yet :-)
[13:57:00] * Colourless is having issues compiling in Mingw
[13:57:13] <Fingolfin> yeah sure; I'd say, when we have Win/Linux binaries up, as I bet that's the majority of users
[13:57:15] <Colourless> what is the exact proper version string we are using
[13:57:19] <Fingolfin> (linux/x86 I mean=
[13:57:22] <Fingolfin> 0.98rc1
[13:57:34] * Fingolfin had the same problem, and was using the wrong one for MacOS classic build
[13:58:09] <Colourless> ok, removing the space from the win32 makefile fixed my problem
[13:59:00] * Colourless has to update cvs once again
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[14:01:43] <Kirben> mingw can't handle spaces ?
[14:01:50] <Colourless> nope, didn't like it
[14:01:58] <Kirben> thats annoying
[14:02:19] <Colourless> string needs to be quoted differently
[14:02:34] <Colourless> plus the version string should be kept the same between all platforms
[14:04:15] <Colourless> you'd need to use something like -DVERSION="\"0.98 RC1\""
[14:05:37] <Colourless> problem is -DVERSION=\"0.98 RC1\" get taken to be 2 arguments on the command line (space breakes the non quoted string)
[14:05:43] <Kirben> I just followed mac example
[14:05:58] <Nadir> \"0.98\ RC1\"
[14:06:15] <Nadir> 0.98rc1 shouldn't have spaces anyway
[14:06:24] <Kirben> 0.98 RC1 instead of 0.98.rc1
[14:09:22] <Fingolfin> ouch, just discovered that the install target in Makefile.am is bugged for OS X. What a luck I don't need it =)
[14:09:37] <Fingolfin> no, mac is using 0.98rc1 !
[14:09:51] <Fingolfin> I had it "wrong" in CVS, but I followed the Unix version for the release
[14:10:04] <Fingolfin> I figured it was logical since we also labeled it 0.96beta1
[14:13:01] <Nadir> anyone familiar with deb's packaging ? Fingolfin ?
[14:13:22] <Fingolfin> what's the problem?
[14:13:50] <Nadir> I'm running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[14:15:46] <Nadir> and something went wrong near the end. I corrected the problem, but it wants to restart everything from the beginning
[14:15:49] <Nadir> can I avoid that ?
[14:18:33] <Fingolfin> well, if your pseudo-root-dir is all setup, and you only have to add a missing file etc.
[14:18:39] <Fingolfin> then you could gen the deb file manually
[14:18:44] <Colourless> kirben, iv
[14:18:50] <Colourless> e found a problem in make dist
[14:19:24] <Colourless> it copys bg/defaultkeys.txt and si/defaultkeys.txt to a single file, named defaultkeys.txt
[14:19:32] <Fingolfin> Nadir: if you have to do more, then sorry, no idea
[14:19:42] <Colourless> they are supposed to be called bgdefaultkeys.txt and sidefaultkeys.txt
[14:19:50] <Fingolfin> Nadir: but if the problem is only to buiild the .deb in the end, that can be done with "dpkg-deb -b /path/to/dir"
[14:20:09] <Nadir> hmm
[14:21:34] <Nadir> debs are done !
[14:21:52] <Colourless> question to anyone: i take it that you can add a destination filename to cp?
[14:21:59] <Nadir> yes
[14:22:19] <Nadir> NAME
[14:22:19] <Nadir> cp - copy files and directories
[14:22:19] <Nadir> SYNOPSIS
[14:22:19] <Nadir> cp [OPTION]... SOURCE DEST
[14:22:19] <Nadir> cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY
[14:22:20] <Nadir> cp [OPTION]... --target-directory=DIRECTORY SOURCE...
[14:22:23] <Nadir> DESCRIPTION
[14:22:24] <Nadir> Copy SOURCE to DEST, or multiple SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY.
[14:22:36] <Nadir> cp --help should tell you
[14:22:47] <Colourless> too bad i don't *have* cp :-)
[14:23:03] <Nadir> isn't it part of cygwin ?
[14:23:35] * Colourless doesn't have cygwin
[14:23:45] <Nadir> colourless should
[14:23:57] <Nadir> *HOW* can you live without a real shell
[14:24:12] * Colourless is a stupid windows user
[14:24:27] <Colourless> such a think is *too* complex
[14:24:28] <Colourless> :-)
[14:24:33] <Nadir> unfortunately colourless is a clever and intelligent windows user
[14:24:39] <Kirben> oops, happened when I trimmed down makefiles
[14:24:41] <Nadir> so that's not an excuse
[14:25:16] <Colourless> i know... i have limited hard drive space :-)
[14:25:32] <Colourless> i have crap all internet bandwith and the download would break my modem :-)
[14:26:10] <Kirben> try msys, is just over 10MB unpacked
[14:29:37] <Nadir> debs uploaded, and I see the sit is there too :)
[14:30:24] <Nadir> we just need the win32 release and then we can announce
[14:30:51] <Colourless> installation is built here
[14:31:03] <Colourless> just need to test it out and i'll send it to kirben so he can make the sfx
[14:33:02] <Kirben> hmm current exult studio has major bug anyway, can't open static directory manually (At least in win32)
[14:35:05] <Kirben> can anyone reproduce ?
[14:35:45] <Colourless> i'll look at it in a few minutes
[14:36:06] <Kirben> ok
[14:39:03] <Nadir> Has anyone prepared the message for our homepage ?
[14:43:35] <Fingolfin> we should wait with that I'd say =)
[14:46:31] <Fingolfin> though we might want to start updating the download page already. I can do that, if nobody objects
[14:49:41] <Nadir> And I'll start moving old news to the history page
[14:51:00] <Kirben> BTW could I get a mention of the about page ?
[14:51:01] <Fingolfin> uhm KB = 1024 bytes, right?
[14:51:07] <Kirben> of=on
[14:51:11] <Colourless> yeah
[14:51:15] <Fingolfin> so why do we suddenly divide by 1000 in download.php ?!? why was that changed?
[14:51:27] <Kirben> So people don't mistake me for developer
[14:51:43] <Fingolfin> ah =) can I change it back?
[14:53:39] <Fingolfin> Nadir: what about that exult-tools.deb ? shall I put it next to the other "main" download files?
[14:53:52] <Fingolfin> Nadir: and if so, what desc text shall appear next to it?
[14:54:16] <Colourless> Kirben: ddc'ing you the win32 zip so you can make a sfx
[14:54:40] <Nadir> Fingolfin: exult-tools contains "ucc, ucxt, expack, ipack, exult-studio"
[14:54:48] <Colourless> kirben: then you'll need to upload it to sourceforge
[14:55:05] <Kirben> ok
[14:55:35] <Fingolfin> Nadir: hmm
[14:55:50] <Fingolfin> Nadir: that is not really for the "main category", then, but rather for something secondary
[14:56:04] <Nadir> yes
[14:56:13] <Fingolfin> gosh, I really ought to rewrite the download.ph/download.dat system properly now that we have so many sections =)
[14:56:30] <Fingolfin> what should the setion be labeled? "Miscelaneous" ? "Tools" ?
[15:00:42] <Colourless> it appear no one has an opinion
[15:02:37] <Nadir> tools
[15:10:18] <Nadir> history and news are updated. I just need to update them on the live site. How's that Win32 build going ?
[15:10:39] <Nadir> Fingolfin: what is a .dmg file ?
[15:10:56] <Colourless> i've sent the zip to kirben. Just waiting on him to sfx it and upload to sf
[15:11:00] <Fingolfin> Disk iMaGe
[15:11:33] * Fingolfin is rewriting the whole download.* stuff for the web page right now, much easier to change this stuff now
[15:12:00] <Colourless> so we get a new download page as well as a new release :-)
[15:13:25] <Kirben> uploaded file
[15:17:27] <Nadir> Ruediger should send us an Amiga package
[15:18:09] <Nadir> Fingolfin: which is the package for MacOSX ?
[15:18:16] <Nadir> dmg or sit
[15:18:19] <Fingolfin> the .dmg one
[15:18:22] <Fingolfin> the .sit is for OS 0
[15:18:25] <Fingolfin> OS 9 even =)
[15:18:29] <Fingolfin> why?
[15:18:53] <Colourless> win32 released
[15:19:01] <Nadir> Fingolfin: freshmeat announcement
[15:19:28] <Fingolfin> but you will not send it out now, will you? or if you do, can you add stuff later on?
[15:20:30] <Nadir> You can add stuff. Why ?
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[15:20:50] <Nadir> shall I update homepage now ?
[15:20:56] <Nadir> is download page done ?
[15:23:44] <Nadir> Fingolfin: ?
[15:24:10] <Colourless> we got > 16000 downloads on win32 Beta 1
[15:24:14] <Fingolfin> Nadir: no, be patient, dude, rome wasn't built in one day either =)
[15:24:32] <Fingolfin> still need to resolve a few issues, look at http://fingolfin.dnsalias.net/~maxhorn/exult/download.php to see what I mean =)
[15:24:59] <Colourless> hmm intesering :-)
[15:25:09] <Colourless> interesting even :-)
[15:25:43] * Colourless looks up to see if intesering is even a word
[15:27:22] <Colourless> no, it definately isn't
[15:28:42] <Fingolfin> hehe
[15:28:55] <Fingolfin> -> page now works, but I want to make a few final changes to get download.dat to be "nicer"
[15:29:02] <Nadir> neither is "definately"
[15:29:13] <Colourless> :-)
[15:30:00] <Colourless> it only makes sense that the person here who has english as there first language, type the worst english out of everyone
[15:30:11] <Colourless> :-)
[15:30:31] <Colourless> of course, it might just be because i'm lazy
[15:30:46] <Colourless> and never bother to actually proof read what i've typed
[15:31:00] <Fingolfin> same over here
[15:31:36] <Colourless> some words though, such as definitely, i tend to have 'issues' with
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[15:32:11] <wjp> hi
[15:32:11] <Colourless> hi
[15:32:11] <sb-x> hi wjp
[15:32:26] <Fingolfin> hi willem
[15:32:33] <Fingolfin> so, everybody, does http://fingolfin.dnsalias.net/~maxhorn/exult/download.php look OK? any quirks visible?
[15:33:01] <wjp> 1.9Mb for the windows binary?!
[15:33:01] <Fingolfin> besides the 0kb sizes etc. for the snapshots, those are this way because I don't have the files =)
[15:33:15] <Colourless> wjp: blame the installer
[15:33:16] <Fingolfin> according to https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2335, yes
[15:33:19] <Fingolfin> yeah
[15:33:23] * wjp blames the installer
[15:33:46] <wjp> so, where's the .rpm's?
[15:33:48] <Colourless> if it were just a zip with exult and the data files, it would be 1211 kb
[15:34:40] <Nadir> Fingolfin: maybe you should specify that the debian binary is for "Debian Unstable"
[15:34:55] <Fingolfin> ok
[15:34:56] <wjp> Fingolfin: you need to update the "For a full list, ..., look here" link
[15:35:58] <Fingolfin> wjp: done
[15:36:21] <Fingolfin> Nadir: so what text?
[15:36:32] <Fingolfin> Nadir: ...Debian Binary (for unstable)" ?
[15:38:11] <Nadir> call it "Sid" so people don't get confused
[15:38:15] <Nadir> Debian Sid binary
[15:38:31] <Fingolfin> ok
[15:39:15] <Fingolfin> in CVS
[15:39:38] <Fingolfin> I think content/download.dat is much nicer now =)
[15:39:45] <Fingolfin> and now Nadir can add a "Tools" section easily, if he likes
[15:40:25] <Colourless> does the source .tar.gz include all the small changes that have been made in the last few hours?
[15:40:47] <Nadir> no
[15:40:48] <Fingolfin> hrm, where did my update.sh script in htdocs go?
[15:40:59] * Fingolfin notes various files (from dominus) with limited write rights
[15:41:12] <Fingolfin> Colourless: nope... maybe we should pull it quickly now
[15:41:15] <Fingolfin> and then replace it with a current one
[15:41:24] <Fingolfin> and somebody should page jeff =)
[15:41:57] <wjp> Fingolfin: just copy Dominus' files, remove the old ones, and copy the new ones back with proper pers
[15:41:59] <wjp> s/pers/perms/
[15:42:30] <Fingolfin> wow, that works? cool =)
[15:42:51] <wjp> yeah, you have the right to delete the file since you have write permission on the dir
[15:42:58] <Fingolfin> right
[15:43:16] <Colourless> now that is pretty silly :-)
[15:45:25] <Fingolfin> ouch
[15:45:32] <Fingolfin> now I accidentally updated the web page
[15:45:39] <wjp> You can set a flag on a directory to disallow this behaviour, though
[15:45:48] <wjp> (/tmp dirs have that one set usually)
[15:45:50] <Fingolfin> shall I put back the old version now
[15:45:51] <Fingolfin> ?
[15:46:03] <wjp> nah, might as well leave it up
[15:46:05] <Fingolfin> i.e. do we want to delay the announcment on the web page?
[15:46:17] <wjp> just don't really announce it on the front page yet
[15:46:33] <Colourless> so, you had better undo what you just did :-)
[15:46:37] * wjp looks at front page...
[15:46:37] <Fingolfin> Nadir updated that already
[15:46:38] <wjp> oh :-)
[15:46:39] <Fingolfin> I will pull it
[15:46:47] <Fingolfin> no big deal
[15:47:10] <Fingolfin> and a fix_perm.sh would be handy, to automate the permission fixing
[15:47:15] <wjp> I'm going home. Back in 15 minutes...
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[15:48:16] <Fingolfin> front page restored
[15:48:33] <Fingolfin> download page is still already the new one
[15:48:38] <Colourless> so i wonder... did anyone see it
[15:48:51] <Fingolfin> wjp and me =)
[15:48:56] <Colourless> and me
[15:51:30] <Fingolfin> that's three
[15:51:53] * Fingolfin imagines somebody seeing the announcment... then reloading the page, and it's gone! What a shock =)
[15:52:09] <sb-x> I just looked.
[15:52:19] <Colourless> is someone going to pull the tar.gz ?
[15:52:41] <Colourless> it is no longer current to the cvs tag
[15:52:57] <Fingolfin> I can pull it
[15:54:56] <Colourless> ok
[16:02:25] <Fingolfin> oh, it is pulled, BTW =)
[16:02:40] <Nadir> http://www.ibiblio.org/GameBytes/issue19/misc.html
[16:02:47] <Nadir> http://www.ibiblio.org/GameBytes/issue20/misc/origin2.html
[16:04:16] <Fingolfin> before we upload the new tarball, I need to change two more files, forgot to check them in (for Mac OS 9)
[16:07:13] <Colourless> they only produced the soundtracks after they got numerous calls asking for the bg soundtrack due to them putting in the credits that it existed, when it didn't :-)
[16:07:45] <Colourless> well, that's for the second sound track cd at least
[16:12:29] <Fingolfin> ugh!
[16:12:46] <Fingolfin> not only is Ruediger Hanke missing from AUTHORS, his name is also misspelled in credits.txt
[16:12:47] <Fingolfin> evil
[16:13:04] <Colourless> we can fix that 'later' i guess
[16:13:08] <Fingolfin> yeah
[16:14:06] <Colourless> or we could release a 'patch' :-)
[16:15:00] <Colourless> we only need to update the flex... if it weren't for the checksums
[16:21:41] <Nadir> has anyone run Privateer under Windows ?
[16:21:58] <Colourless> i don't have privateer
[16:30:07] <Colourless> fingolfin: updated your macos 9 files yet?
[16:30:18] <sb-x> the discussion forum is empty
[16:30:59] <Colourless> hmm, so it is. did that yesterday too
[16:31:16] <Colourless> came back after a few mins... which it appears to have done now
[16:31:23] <Nadir> mysql problems
[16:31:25] <Nadir> I gues
[16:31:52] <sb-x> yeah there it is
[16:45:22] <Fingolfin> Colourless: yes I updated the files
[16:45:28] <Fingolfin> sorry, I was afk
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[16:46:38] * wjp didn't go home after all... :-)
[16:46:38] <Nadir> are we ready to announce now ?
[16:47:24] <Colourless> no source yet
[16:47:46] <Nadir> Who's building source
[16:47:50] <Colourless> well, jeff seems to have re uploaded it... which won't include the cvs changes
[16:47:51] <Fingolfin> wjp: what why ? =)
[16:47:56] <Fingolfin> <sigh>
[16:48:17] * Fingolfin read Jeff's & Ryan's mails
[17:00:17] <Nadir> I'm off now. See you all tomorrow
[17:00:20] <Colourless> cya
[17:00:26] <sb-x> cya
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[17:07:35] <wjp> really going now :-)
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[17:45:44] <sb-x> wb
[17:45:46] <wjp> thx
[17:45:49] <Colourless> wb
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[18:24:12] <Fingolfin> wb wjp
[18:24:17] <wjp> thx
[18:24:40] <sb-x> wb
[18:25:53] <sb-x> if i cvs update now do i have rc1?
[18:26:00] <wjp> yeah
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[19:33:24] <Colourless> hi
[19:33:49] <MisterP> me? :)
[19:33:53] <MisterP> hi
[19:34:11] <Colourless> who else :-)
[19:34:52] <MisterP> I am so glad I have the DOS cds for games that work under Linux
[19:35:01] <MisterP> I have a mac, and the mac cds can't be read
[19:35:16] <MisterP> Need to get PrBoom
[19:35:44] <MisterP> Oh
[19:36:17] <MisterP> I don't know if you want to add this feature, but you should add support for Ultima 8 somehow
[19:36:30] <sb-x> hehe
[19:36:54] <Colourless> i'll do a dominus... READ THE FAQ!
[19:37:01] <Colourless> really, read it :-)
[19:37:19] <MisterP> sorry
[19:37:21] <Colourless> it answers questions about ultima 8
[19:39:56] <Colourless> 1.4. Will Exult support other Ultimas?
[19:40:01] <Colourless> Exult supports only Ultima 7 (BG/SI and the add-ons). It will never support any other Ultima nor do members of the team plan to develop something similar.
[19:40:01] <Colourless>
[19:40:15] <MisterP> I could do it
[19:40:33] <MisterP> N/m
[19:40:37] <MisterP> :(
[19:40:39] <Colourless> There always is pentagram, but there much to say about pentagram at the moment
[19:40:44] <sb-x> ?faq
[19:40:44] <exultbot> You can find the official FAQ at: http://exult.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[19:41:08] <MisterP> I know I am reading it :)
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[19:42:32] <Colourless> i really think we need to update the quotes, incase it hasn't already been done, and have a READ THE FAQ comment by dominus :-)
[19:43:20] <Colourless> ok, someone want to update our news about RC1 now that the source release is finally done?
[19:46:09] <sb-x> Monkey Moves Cursor by Thinking
[19:46:10] <sb-x> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21153-2002Mar13.html
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[19:59:32] <MisterP> hola?
[20:00:20] <Colourless> hi
[20:01:49] <Colourless> sb-x: that monkey thing is pretty cool
[20:07:11] * sb-x waits for a mind-machine interface to be available for himself.
[20:07:52] <Colourless> i'd like it to be somewhat bidirectional though
[20:08:24] <sb-x> why not completely bidirectional? :-)
[20:09:07] <Colourless> well, it depends on what exactly you mean by completely bidirectional. for example do you want an interface that would allow a computer to control your body?
[20:09:50] <Colourless> IMHO that would a 'bad' thing
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[20:12:26] <sb-x> no I just want an interface that will allow me to sense a computer's "thoughts" the same way it reads mine
[20:12:29] <Fingolfin> Colourless: you mean I should now put up the new web frontpage?
[20:12:39] <Colourless> yeah
[20:14:33] <Fingolfin> done
[20:14:57] <Colourless> great
[20:20:00] <sb-x> i was just about to say "maybe someone can make a post about the new version now"
[20:20:03] <sb-x> but they just did
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[20:20:24] <bj0ern> hi
[20:20:31] <Colourless> hi
[20:21:35] <Colourless> hmm is it just me, or does "Release Candidate 1 has been released" seem just a tad absurd :-)
[20:22:03] <Fingolfin> heheh
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[20:24:36] <bj0ern> argh, slow server
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[20:32:16] <bj0ern> ok, cool.. a mac os x client, and its running ;)
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[20:36:41] <bj0ern> hey ppl... really good job =).. this is awesome compared to older versions
[20:37:42] <Fingolfin> ?
[20:37:46] <Fingolfin> client?
[20:46:30] <Colourless> according to the stats, no one has downloaded yet
[20:47:16] <Colourless> but, it seems that 1 person has downloaded it bj0ern
[20:54:33] <Colourless> time for me to go
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[20:54:47] <wjp> Fingolfin: saw the "OSX version" post on the forum?
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[20:57:54] <Fingolfin|meeting> no
[21:00:16] <bj0ern> is there a similiar effort like exult for Ultima Underworld somewhere on the net?
[21:01:27] <wjp> there's... uhh... *looks in bookmarks*
[21:02:05] <wjp> http://madeira.physiol.ucl.ac.uk/people/jim/games/sshock.html
[21:02:26] <bj0ern> system shock? hm
[21:03:15] <bj0ern> system shock is scary :)
[21:03:25] * wjp never played SS
[21:04:00] <bj0ern> =)
[21:04:10] <wjp> anyway, it's for UW too
[21:04:44] <bj0ern> nice, thanks
[21:04:52] <wjp> there's also a map viewer at http://www.peroxide.dk/underworld/
[21:05:18] <bj0ern> ah, telemachos' team =)
[21:05:25] * wjp nods
[21:11:24] <bj0ern> brb
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[21:13:23] <bj0ern> re
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[21:28:41] <bj0ern_> ah
[21:28:44] <bj0ern_> hm, the mouse seems to jump around sometimes in the Mac OS X Version
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