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[11:06:30] <Dominus> Marzo, wjp, for some reason I can't push to exult-web
[11:07:24] <Dominus> normally cloning the https link works fine for everything (own stuff, nuvie, exult-ios)
[11:07:58] <Marzo> Dominus: oops, that was my fault
[11:08:25] <Dominus> what did (not?) you do?
[11:08:36] <Marzo> I had forgotten to grant 'write' access on repositories to 'Exult Team'
[11:08:46] <Dominus> oh :)
[11:09:02] <Marzo> And I created the group for that very purpose
[11:09:09] <Marzo> Should be fine now
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[11:09:36] <GitHub> [exult-web] DominusExult pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vacAW
[11:09:36] <GitHub> exult-web/master a056b03 DominusExult: Download for the source code snapshot points now at https://github.com/exult/exult/archive/master.zip
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[11:09:39] <Dominus> yes, thanks
[11:09:58] <Dominus> (could have spared me that reply Mr.GitHub)
[11:16:35] <Marzo> Hm, I wonder if I should add time stamps to the various tags
[11:17:37] <Marzo> I recreated them all to be proper git tags, and they are all from the same time now
[11:20:33] <Marzo> In any event, we now have a million places mentioning SVN that should be changed to Git
[11:21:18] <Marzo> And by the way, I did not get the list e-mail
[11:22:08] <Marzo> We will definitely have to go with a 'neutral' whitelisted e-mail
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[11:26:49] <Philantrop> Just to make sure: https://github.com/exult/exult is now the official source code repository for exult, right?
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[11:30:59] <Dominus> Philantrop: yes
[11:31:09] <Philantrop> Dominus: Excellent, thanks!
[11:31:26] <Dominus> Marzo: i can take care of the website mentions.
[11:31:53] <Dominus> This evening (gmt)
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[19:16:14] <Dominus> Marzo, can you please point the Seven Towers downloads at the Exult download page or put a symlink of the two mods from there to your download folder?
[19:16:21] <Dominus> your mod versions are severly outdated if I'm not mistaken but because of the move to git they have a much newer date :)
[19:17:12] <Dominus> and the readme links point to our CVS repository :)
[19:43:08] <Dominus> wjp, marzo, on the Exult project page, I renamed the menu item Code to SVN and made it invisible for everyone except admins (I hope)
[19:43:33] <Dominus> then added a new menu item Code that links to https://github.com/exult
[19:46:43] <Dominus> wjp, do you have enough access to add the github mailer to the whitelist or any such thing?
[19:54:58] <Dominus> we probably need the mailman admin password... (or change it via SF Mailing List permissions :))
[20:03:54] <wjp> I don't have that pw
[20:25:58] <Dominus> ok, I'll write Jeff to either pass the password on or whitelist noreply@github.com
[21:15:38] <Marzo> Dominus: I will see about updating the readmes and editing the update script to make sure the versions there are more current
[21:16:00] <Marzo> I am actually thinking that the versions there should be removed from source control
[21:16:33] <Marzo> I think I also need a newer version of avatar pack to work with SI Fixes
[21:21:26] <Marzo> A depressing realization: Keyring readme mentions 1.4.05cvs
[21:22:00] <Marzo> Ever since I have been on the team, we have seen two changes in version control (CVS->SVN->Git) but no releases
[21:26:15] <Marzo> Dominus: out of curiosity, who updates the Keyring and SI Fixes snapshots?
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[21:35:41] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: I'm in the same boat (CVS-GIT with no release)
[21:38:11] <Malignant_Manor> We seem to have another bug that should be fixed before release. https://sourceforge.net/p/exult/bugs/1935/
[21:46:19] <Marzo> Does it also happen on the original? The description suggests it might
[21:46:54] <Malignant_Manor> I have no idea
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[21:51:19] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCiI
[21:51:19] <GitHub> exult-web/master 344469c Marzo Sette Torres Junior: * seventowers/*: Removing robots.txt. Removing downloads from Git. Pointing...
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[21:59:26] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCiH
[21:59:26] <GitHub> exult-web/master adc11e0 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Missing semi-colon.
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[22:08:30] <Malignant_Manor> Why not have exultbot do the commit messages?
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[22:14:23] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCXk
[22:14:23] <GitHub> exult-web/master 7ab0dd5 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Changing scripts so the dirs are actually merged.
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[22:14:33] <Marzo> That would be up to wjp
[22:15:25] <wjp> if we want to do that, it'll be time to retire exultbot and switch to something more modern
[22:16:01] <wjp> not sure I want to do much on this 15 year old perl script :-)
[22:16:26] <Malignant_Manor> didn't it have that ability from before mailing list changes
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[22:20:34] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCXD
[22:20:34] <GitHub> exult-web/master e304372 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Making highlighters work.
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[22:21:17] <Dominus> Thanks Marzo - and so far I'm the one doing the mod zips
[22:21:56] <Dominus> started doing those when SevenTowers was either down or the mods were very outdated and I had no access
[22:25:46] <Marzo> Well, it will now read SI Fixes and Keyring from the snapshots dir
[22:32:34] <Malignant_Manor> Current MinGW automake seems broke and is from 2010. I guess will need to transfer old MinGW from other comp.
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[22:35:09] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCMW
[22:35:09] <GitHub> exult-web/master 4e89af6 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Making it work for real, this time (hopefully).
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[22:37:39] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCMg
[22:37:39] <GitHub> exult-web/master 92ecd9a Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Fixing handling of dat extension.
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[22:38:11] <Marzo> Yes, it is getting ridiculous
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[22:38:16] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCMV
[22:38:16] <GitHub> exult-web/master c54650b Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Another missing semi-colon...
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[22:38:24] <Marzo> Need to set up php locally again to test before committing
[22:40:53] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: do you need a Git Version of the Iphone toolbar patch?
[22:41:09] <Marzo> At some point it would be good, yes
[22:43:11] <Malignant_Manor> This should be it. I had accidentally forgot to revert the blood and slime files, but I think I got them removed. http://pastebin.com/DLXqBATB
[22:44:30] <Dominus> Malignant_Manor: did you try the toolbar?
[22:45:16] <Malignant_Manor> No, I don't have a dev environment for Exult since I used a newer MinGW for Nuvie and never compiled Exult on it.
[22:45:43] <Dominus> oh, I see
[22:45:56] <Dominus> odd that the one works but not the other...
[22:46:04] <Malignant_Manor> For some reason automake isn't working so It will be easier just to copy the older MinGW build environment.
[22:46:45] <Malignant_Manor> oh, wait
[22:46:53] <Malignant_Manor> I don't need automake on Windows
[22:48:01] <Malignant_Manor> I will still need awhile to get all the files setup.
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[22:51:15] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCyU
[22:51:15] <GitHub> exult-web/master af3b64e Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Fixing error induced by misleading identation.
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[22:52:02] <Marzo> ...
[22:52:13] <Marzo> And now the highlighters are gone again
[22:53:35] <Dominus> ouch
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[22:56:29] <GitHub> [exult-web] marzojr pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCyc
[22:56:29] <GitHub> exult-web/master a4cc3d3 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Fixing array key check.
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[22:58:13] <Marzo> There, all working now
[22:58:21] <Marzo> Time to make a new AvatarPack
[23:04:51] <Marzo> "This mod is will *not* work in Exult 1.2, nor it will work on any but *the* latest snapshots. As of the initial writing of this document (GMT 03:46 AM of 20007-03-18),"
[23:04:56] <Marzo> Check the date
[23:05:50] * Dominus cries
[23:08:06] <Marzo> Hm
[23:08:21] <Marzo> I may have to make a SI-Fixes-specific version of Avatar Pack
[23:09:10] <Dominus> wjp, Marzo: short news update:
[23:09:11] <Dominus> Source code versioning moved to GIT on GitHub.
[23:09:11] <Dominus> We are now working on our code via GIT on <a href="https://github.com/exult">GitHub</a><br/>
[23:09:11] <Dominus> Everything else, website, forum, mailinglist, bug tracker, etc. remains hosted via Sourceforge.net.
[23:09:27] <Dominus> ok or room for improvement?
[23:09:35] <Marzo> Sounds fine
[23:10:39] <Marzo> So, should I bundle Avatar Pack with SI Fixes or leave it separate?
[23:11:03] <Dominus> you do bundle it for BG keyring, right?
[23:11:07] <Marzo> Yes
[23:11:18] <Marzo> But the aims of Keyring and SI Fixes are very different
[23:11:26] <wjp> Git isn't uppercase
[23:11:35] <Dominus> thanks
[23:11:58] <Marzo> (and some people have requested versions of Keyring without Avatar Pack)
[23:12:10] <Marzo> Bundling makes my life easier, but people may complain
[23:12:30] <Marzo> It would also add some redundancy on Exult source
[23:13:09] <Marzo> (unless I move stuff around, and make Keyring and SI Fixes source depend on a common third folder)
[23:13:13] <Dominus> What does it add to SI? The U8 bucket head, right?
[23:13:25] <Marzo> And a few others
[23:13:45] <Dominus> red head, I dimly remember...
[23:13:57] <Dominus> I'm torn...
[23:14:04] <Dominus> again :)
[23:14:50] <Marzo> Looking over, it replaces all stock avatars with new ones
[23:15:46] <Dominus> (which makes for interesting savegames when a save that was using the Avatar pack is viewed on version without :))
[23:17:47] <Marzo> Yeah, we need to add a mod identity to gamedat
[23:18:16] <Marzo> Dominus: full set: http://i.imgur.com/SC52ukH.png
[23:18:49] <Dominus> ah, yes.
[23:19:38] <Dominus> thinking about it, you are right, the aim of SI fixes means it shouldn't have the Avatar Pack integrated
[23:20:21] <Dominus> I often have the "bundle everything" mindset, but SI fixes might be better off without it bundled
[23:20:47] <Marzo> Which means some point down the road I will have to release a version of AvatarPack for SI Fixes
[23:21:03] <Marzo> And maintain them both
[23:21:15] <Dominus> :(
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[23:22:13] <GitHub> exult-web/master b797850 Marzo Sette Torres Junior: Fixing default downloads section.
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[23:26:16] <Dominus> Marzo: should I update the source code to use 1.5.0git or will you do that when you work on the avatar pack (right now?)?
[23:26:52] <Marzo> Well, avatar pack has been shunted down the road; so feel free to update it
[23:26:56] <Dominus> since that means I either fix the mod cfgs, too, or break them?
[23:27:05] <Dominus> right
[23:27:16] <Dominus> then I'll go ahead :)
[23:27:36] <Marzo> Hm, I will have to release a version anyway, won't I
[23:28:00] <Dominus> yes :)
[23:28:12] <Marzo> Ah, no, it does not have a cfg file :-p
[23:28:15] <Dominus> (or you could just change the cfg)
[23:28:21] <Dominus> he he
[23:28:44] <Marzo> It tells you to put on the patch dir
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[23:45:19] <GitHub> [exult] DominusExult pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCH7
[23:45:19] <GitHub> exult/master 59abcb4 DominusExult: Various files and documentation changed from SVN to Git.
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[23:46:45] <GitHub> [exult-web] DominusExult pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaCHA
[23:46:45] <GitHub> exult-web/master 9b3ff25 DominusExult: Short news about our switch to Git and changed docs accordingly
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