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[12:01:10] <wjp> hi
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[22:58:57] <Curiousis> hello
[22:59:09] <wjp> hi
[23:00:21] <Curiousis> You probably got my e-mail from Dominus earlier, I'm attempting to write a bit of a Studio guide. How to create and place things.. making eggs and what not
[23:00:55] <wjp> ah right, I knew your username sounded familiar
[23:01:05] <wjp> (it also sounds very dutch, btw :-) )
[23:01:41] <Curiousis> Well, my grandfather was born in Germany, about 10 kms from the border with Denmark
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[23:03:36] <wjp> anyway, great that you want to write ES docs! it could really use some, I guess :-)
[23:04:50] <Curiousis> I wrote up about ten pages earlier, I was wondering if you wanted to take a look. It all obviously needs to be checked for accuracy.
[23:05:16] <wjp> sure, although I'm not all that familiar with ES
[23:05:56] <Curiousis> Its pretty straight foreward so far... just simple stuff like how to make combos, how to change an object's z coordinates
[23:08:29] <Curiousis> You still might want to take a look at it, just to see if you think my writing style is worth looking at.
[23:09:53] <wjp> um, that .doc extension doesn't mean ms word I hope?
[23:10:21] <wjp> (also it doesn't seem to be connecting)
[23:10:50] <Curiousis> uhmm.. well I like to use ms word in order to start writing projects.
[23:11:13] <wjp> tiny problem: I don't have word :-)
[23:11:16] <Curiousis> I suppose thats a problem for non-windows sort ain't it
[23:11:21] <wjp> yes :-)
[23:12:07] <Curiousis> howabout a nice text file?
[23:12:17] <wjp> sounds good :-)
[23:12:58] <wjp> it still doesn't want to connect, it seems
[23:13:13] <Curiousis> I bad, firewall was still up. try now
[23:14:01] <Curiousis> hmm... that still didn't do it. oddish
[23:14:48] <Curiousis> nevermind that then.
[23:16:29] <wjp> email?
[23:17:13] <Curiousis> sure, thats works
[23:20:31] <wjp> hm, you'll need my email address for that, right? :-)
[23:20:57] <Curiousis> well I looked at your mirc info and sent it off using that
[23:21:03] <wjp> (unless you already found it on the exult homepage or want to send it to the ML for everybody to read?)
[23:21:28] <wjp> mirc info?
[23:21:40] <Curiousis> right click on the person's name and select info
[23:22:07] <wjp> what does that do? (I don't have mirc either ;-) )
[23:22:56] <Curiousis> well.. it listed me something that looked suspicously like your e-mail address. But now looking at the Exult page it appears I was decieved. I sent something to a .nl account
[23:23:07] <wjp> that's quite possible :-)
[23:23:16] <wjp> (seeing how I'm dutch, and all that :-) )
[23:23:31] * wjp wonders where he entered his email address
[23:23:41] <wjp> (and which email address)
[23:24:12] <wjp> @planet.nl? @worldonline.nl? @wanadoo.nl?
[23:24:39] <Curiousis> allright, I sent something to your sourceforge page. And the very least you're now getting double the pleasure (or pain)
[23:24:45] <Curiousis> err.. page = email
[23:24:45] <wjp> :-)
[23:25:00] <Curiousis> .planet.nl
[23:25:44] <Curiousis> ~wjp@ip503c5297.speed.planet.nl actually
[23:25:54] <wjp> ah, that's just my username@hostname
[23:26:24] <Curiousis> ahh.. those tricky bastards snuck one right by on me now didn't they
[23:26:46] <wjp> anyway, I just got (one of) your email(s)
[23:27:49] <wjp> ad. 1.2: it's a goal to be able to create a game without requiring any of the U7BG/SI files
[23:28:06] <wjp> (it's semi-possible already, but not without some effort)
[23:28:21] <Curiousis> I haven't really grammer checked it yet. So some parts may be a little dicey
[23:30:35] <wjp> "Place lots of objects rabidly" ;-)
[23:31:16] <Curiousis> oh geesh... well like I said. I haven't grammer checked it yet. I just whipped that off today so you had an idea what I was trying to do
[23:31:23] <Curiousis> but thats pretty funny
[23:33:54] <wjp> ad 3.5: I think you can also select a viewing mode for shapes.vga that shows all frames of an object at once
[23:35:06] <Curiousis> you certainly can. Just that method can be awfully painful because theres a LOT of shapes. But yes I'll add that
[23:36:46] <wjp> hm, I vaguely remember there being an easier way to change the z of an object
[23:36:57] <wjp> but maybe we just discussed it, and haven't actually implemented it yet
[23:37:12] <wjp> (holding a key while dragging, I think)
[23:37:27] <Curiousis> hmm... I never noticed that.
[23:37:36] <wjp> we probably just discussed it then :-)
[23:37:47] <Curiousis> Theres obviously a lot of things I don't know that you guys would.
[23:38:10] <wjp> do you think it would be a nice thing to have, btw?
[23:38:26] <wjp> something like if you hold ctrl or alt while moving an object, it will only move in the z direction
[23:38:41] <Curiousis> I think that would have a lot of practical purposes.
[23:39:28] <Curiousis> One thing that really needs to be done is a slight alteration of the exult egg menu. Its actually set up so unless you go looking, you may not discover that theres more then 5 types of eggs. Some of them are hidden until you expand the eggs menu
[23:40:24] <Curiousis> I was also curious if it was possible to give a teleport location a z coordinate. That'd be right peachy
[23:40:38] <wjp> what do you mean with "expand the eggs menu"?
[23:40:43] <Curiousis> look above
[23:41:10] <wjp> oh, you mean that there's too many types of eggs to fit?
[23:41:31] <wjp> there should be scroll buttons for the tabs?
[23:41:41] <Curiousis> right. When the egg menu first pops up its like 200 pixels wide, but to fit all the types in, the menu needs to be like 600 pixels
[23:41:52] <Curiousis> thats what I'm saying
[23:42:25] <wjp> um, I meant that last line without the question mark
[23:42:35] <wjp> there are scroll buttons in my version, I mean
[23:44:18] <Curiousis> not in mine, you see from monster to usecode... The ones like teleport are idding off screen. May be a windows thing
[23:44:27] <Curiousis> idding = hiding
[23:44:43] <wjp> hm, I see
[23:45:31] <wjp> better submit a bug report or feature request about that to our tracker on sourceforge
[23:45:49] <Curiousis> all right
[23:48:22] <wjp> *finishes reading*
[23:48:28] <wjp> looks great so far
[23:48:40] * wjp learned a couple of things, too :-)
[23:50:18] <Curiousis> I'm basically shooting for detail like that to describe most things. If theres anything anyone sees is obviously wrong or could be worded better I'd like to know.
[23:51:13] <Curiousis> or anything that really needs to be added.
[23:54:15] <wjp> hm, I should be going, it's getting a bit late :-)
[23:54:38] <Curiousis> cya. I spose Atlantic Canada is 5 hours ahead of the dutch
[23:54:42] <wjp> I'll read it more thoroughly sometime soon, and reply with comments if I can think up any :-)
[23:54:54] <Curiousis> I want you to be evil making comments
[23:55:08] <wjp> I'll see what I can do ;-)
[23:55:11] <wjp> bye
[23:55:13] <Curiousis> bye
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