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[08:20:51] <wjp> hi
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[08:21:14] <wjp|work> say, how would you feel about doing the weekly homepage updates? ;-)
[08:22:49] <Nadir> :) I read yesterday's logs
[08:35:47] <wjp|work> so, is that a yes? ;-)
[08:38:55] <Nadir> did I say yes ? I want my lawyer :)
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[13:23:54] <Colourless> hi
[13:24:13] <Fingolfin|work> hi
[13:24:18] <Fingolfin|work> now that was fast, hu? :)
[13:24:34] <Colourless> sure was, and you are even at work :)
[13:25:12] <Colourless> of course.... that might be the reason the response was fast :)
[13:25:18] <Fingolfin|work> he
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[13:25:29] <Colourless> :)
[13:25:38] <Colourless> that's is probably a good idea I think
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[15:57:43] <sethion> hallo
[15:57:47] <Colourless> hu
[15:57:53] <sethion> how are you?
[15:58:03] <Colourless> ok
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[18:04:35] <sethion> hey jeff
[18:04:42] <freedman> Hi.
[18:05:04] <sethion> Can't you edit the usecode at all?
[18:05:28] <freedman> You can write new functions, but, for now, can't patch the old ones.
[18:05:37] <freedman> I've thought about it though...
[18:05:59] <sethion> since there is this spelling error with the orb of the moons (seen bugtracker?)
[18:06:02] <freedman> Why? Thinking of changing something?
[18:07:25] <freedman> Question: When those guards showed up, had you been stealing?
[18:07:36] <sethion> stealing in the dungeon?
[18:07:38] <sethion> or before?
[18:08:04] <freedman> In the general area (maybe because of a bug)
[18:08:29] <freedman> 'cause I fixed a bug last night: If you stole, guards would appear, then walk off in the wrong direction.
[18:08:59] <sethion> hmmm...not that I know of. Maybe some of Nicodemus' reagents, but that must have been in the beginning of the game, (at least 8 ultima days back)
[18:09:20] <sethion> I've got the 11th of September Snapshot, so I wouldn't have that fix yet
[18:09:22] <freedman> No, that wouldn't be it. They wouldn't follow you around.
[18:09:40] <sethion> the guard is not following me, it's just on a weird patrol
[18:09:43] <freedman> Sounds more like your savegame is corrupted a bit.
[18:10:05] <sethion> as long as it's only this minor bug, I don't really care.
[18:10:14] <sethion> How do savegames GET corrupted, by the way?
[18:10:37] <sethion> damn Dupre left cuz I was stealing
[18:10:38] <freedman> That's the BIG question! And it's never happened to us developers.
[18:11:09] <sethion> do you know how to get dupre back in the group?
[18:11:16] <freedman> I'm about ready to start playing SI from scratch. When I did this with BG, I did find lots of bugs.
[18:11:36] <sethion> I'm now playing BG from scratch
[18:11:43] <sethion> and I'm still finding occasional bugs
[18:11:56] <freedman> I know:-)
[18:12:23] <freedman> I fixed the 'ghost' bug, but couldn't duplicate the 'music box' one.
[18:12:53] <sethion> I saw your post in my email. Maybe part of my CSG
[18:12:54] <freedman> And thanks for the 'missile trap' report; ours were too slow by a factor of 4.
[18:13:12] <sethion> meaning they should go 4 times faster?
[18:13:17] <freedman> Fortunately, these are all pretty minor.
[18:13:21] <sethion> you're welcome, by the way :)
[18:13:36] <freedman> Yes; just had to change a constant.
[18:13:44] <sethion> yeah, I think you got out most of the major bugs in BG
[18:14:07] <freedman> SI's another matter. I don't think anyone's finished it yet.
[18:14:12] <sethion> so is it fixed with today's snapshot? cool! I'll go and see.
[18:15:07] <sethion> me neither..last part I heard was the dreamworld-thing
[18:15:30] <sethion> (which is said to be buggy. haven't played much of SI, yet myself, though)
[18:15:32] <freedman> That seemed to be working when I tried it. Haven't heard anything else since, though.
[18:16:00] <sethion> could be. it was some time ago when I saw the last SI post on the phorum
[18:16:19] <freedman> Maybe they gave up:-(
[18:16:26] <freedman> (I'll be back in about 5 mins)
[18:16:47] <sethion> (ok)
[18:18:01] <sethion> btw, there's annother guard acting like a weird NPC around Serpent's Hold. He's just wandering without following any specific path (not on patrol). Guess it's my CSG again, but just though I'd mention it.
[18:22:41] <sethion> Guard multiplied itself
[18:23:03] <sethion> oh, and btw, I had been stealing in Serpent's Hold before I first noticed the guard
[18:23:35] <sethion> Dogs seem to multiply also when I leave them and come back later
[18:25:38] <Colourless> hi jeff
[18:26:02] <sethion> jeffs away for a moment (see above)
[18:27:27] <freedman> Back. Hi Ryan.
[18:28:14] <freedman> Sethion: Maybe it's the bug I fixed last night. Really kind of funny.
[18:28:30] <freedman> I ended up with 5 of them hanging around the Trinsic blacksmith's.
[18:28:40] <sethion> weird
[18:29:19] <freedman> The pathfinding was messed up. Each guard would open the door to where I was, then walk off in the opposite direction:-) Should be fixed now, though.
[18:29:43] <sethion> haha
[18:29:46] <freedman> Or... could you have accidently picked up a guard using the magic carpet?
[18:30:01] <sethion> "Hey, look, a thief! let's walk away fast!"
[18:30:07] <freedman> :-)
[18:30:38] <sethion> nope. haven't used the carpet while multiplication took place
[18:31:10] <freedman> I've never seen them multiply. Could be there were two really close together at first.
[18:31:28] <freedman> When you steal, a random number of guards is created.
[18:31:44] <sethion> possibly, but I've followed the irst around the house walking, then went away, came back, and there were two of them.
[18:31:59] <sethion> random between 1 and x?
[18:32:05] <sethion> (x=variable)
[18:32:19] <freedman> I think it's 1-3, maybe 4 at most.
[18:32:35] <sethion> right. otherwise, you could end up with 100 guards chasing you around
[18:32:58] <sethion> I can't recall ever being arrested (and boy was I arrested) by mroe then one guard in the original
[18:33:33] <freedman> I got a bunch to show up in the original just by moving food around. Each accosted me after the other was done.
[18:33:43] <sethion> what happends if they both try engage conversation with you?
[18:34:03] <Colourless> they do it in order
[18:34:03] <freedman> They seemed to wait in line:-)
[18:34:05] <sethion> that's what I meant. that can become quite annoying and unrealistic, 4 excact same conversations
[18:34:21] <sethion> right after each other
[18:35:07] <freedman> Let's see... I opened a bag that had food, then started taking it. The guards didn't show up until I closed the bag, if I recall.
[18:36:45] <sethion> I've never seen a guard caughting me 'red-handed', only they'd show up 10 blocks later in places they weren't meant to be. none of them engage in conversation, though.
[18:36:47] <sethion> I'll try again
[18:40:44] <sethion> yep. it works now jeff, after moving some food in and out of a crate, the barkeep in britain called a guard, who walked through a door, closed it behind his back, walked up to me and started the 'cease and desist!'-conversation
[18:41:04] <freedman> Thanks.
[18:41:19] <sethion> there. guard is dead.
[18:41:25] <sethion> :)
[18:41:26] <freedman> :-)
[18:41:34] <sethion> no other guards come?
[18:41:39] <freedman> Any NPC's attacking? It's funny when they're unarmed.
[18:41:52] <sethion> yes, both the barkeeps are fistfighting me now
[18:42:02] <sethion> what a stupid animation :)
[18:42:03] <freedman> Sethion: Depends on who's in the area.
[18:42:25] <freedman> Not sure if we have that right... but it's amusing.
[18:42:42] <sethion> ? you mean only guards on patrol within limit come when they see me kill annother guard?
[18:43:39] <sethion> when I run away from the barkeep she's chasing me, but also too slow.
[18:43:39] <freedman> I can't remember. If you attack an innocent NPC, 1 or more new guards are created. But if you're attacked by one, I don't think we'll create any more.
[18:44:14] <freedman> As in the original, if you leave the area long enough, they'll be friendly when you return. Short memories.
[18:44:29] <sethion> collumn in dispise is working (time-thing) correctly now.
[18:44:40] <freedman> Good.
[18:45:24] <sethion> I hear no sound of a fireball exploding however
[18:45:46] <freedman> True...
[18:46:04] <sethion> hmm..teleported back to the bar, tavernwench is still agressive
[18:46:21] <freedman> You probably have to wait a day.
[18:46:25] <Colourless> you might have to wait for a schedule change
[18:46:27] <sethion> I'll sleep
[18:46:35] <sethion> makes sence.
[18:47:06] <sethion> I'll get good ole Batlin out of his bed and take o=ver his bed.
[18:47:16] <freedman> :-)
[18:47:25] <sethion> An Zu rocks :)
[18:47:37] <Colourless> heh
[18:47:48] <sethion> yep it worked.
[18:47:54] <sethion> not fighting anymore
[18:48:54] <Colourless> funny people. They can catch you redhanded and they forgive you after a day... I mean, you can even kill them and then laster get them ressurected and they still forgive you
[18:49:19] <sethion> and don't you go change it!!
[18:49:20] <sethion> :)
[18:49:34] <freedman> Yep.
[18:49:39] <Colourless> From memory Ultima 6 wasn't like that, once you piss people off, they stay pissed. You had to use charm to get the person to talk to you
[18:50:19] <freedman> Seems more realistic.
[18:50:53] <freedman> Privateer was like that too.
[18:51:10] <sethion> you mean the spaceshipgame?
[18:51:41] <freedman> Yes. The first one. It took place in the Wing Commander universe (also from Origin).
[18:51:43] <Colourless> i think it (Ultima 6) may have just changed the npc's alliances
[18:53:01] <freedman> Privateer was sort of an RPG version of Wing Commander. One of my favorite games.
[18:53:32] <sethion> I only have the 2nd one (which always craches during a movie). it's cool
[18:54:20] <freedman> The second was (in my opinion) awful. The movies and actors were good, but the gameplay was terrible.
[18:54:51] <freedman> I remember hour-long battles for nothing. And lots of crashes.
[18:55:59] <sethion> according to the exult quotes, Max loves you, jeff. :)
[18:56:02] <freedman> ... oh, and you couldn't run away from battles. You had to destroy every 'hostile', even if they were ignoring you.
[18:56:19] <Fingolfin> uhm
[18:56:21] <sethion> how unrealistic. thank god for u7 :)
[18:56:32] <freedman> Heh. Might be better if it was a Maxine! Hi Max.
[18:56:42] <sethion> hi max :)
[18:57:06] <sethion> really, it's the last of all the quotes
[18:57:27] <Fingolfin> :)
[18:57:37] <Fingolfin> of course I mean it on a pure platonic level
[18:57:44] <Colourless> added by Nadir :)
[18:57:47] <Fingolfin> after all, Jeff has a family and children, otherwise... :)
[18:57:52] <freedman> Understood
[18:57:57] <Colourless> we all love jeff, don't we?
[18:58:01] <Fingolfin> <g>
[18:58:09] <sethion> to a certain level
[18:58:22] <Colourless> if it weren't for Jeff, none of us would be here :)
[18:58:36] <sethion> Exult wouldn't excist! AAAHH!!!!!!
[18:58:42] <freedman> Okay... I appreciate all this... but would rather talk about Wing Commander:-)
[18:58:53] <sethion> wasn't it privateer?
[18:59:10] * Fingolfin does too much perl & makefils at once ... bad if you mix uo .= and += grrr
[18:59:20] <freedman> Privateer I was a WC game. The second just stole the name, and wasn't a true sequel.
[18:59:32] <Fingolfin> sounds sad :/
[18:59:33] <sethion> those thieves!
[18:59:49] <freedman> Origin was going down the tubes:-(
[18:59:56] <Fingolfin> I only knew WC 3, and it wasn't that great, I prefered TIE Fighter at that time, one of my my all-time favorite btw :)
[19:00:07] <sethion> I've played wc2, 3 and 4
[19:00:27] <Fingolfin> what was cool about WC 3: the origin intro "We create worlds", made shivers run down my spine =)
[19:00:29] <freedman> I like them all. But wc2 was my favorite.
[19:00:34] <sethion> (not in that order, but all the same I thought them to be pretty cool)
[19:00:53] <freedman> Yes. They really did.
[19:01:14] <freedman> Now they just do UO. Their new motto should be "We create money"
[19:01:29] <Colourless> no, "We create money for EA"
[19:01:52] <sethion> never got far in that one. Never understanded the enbglish properly enough to play it (hey! I'm dutch and was 8! :) ), and when I did, I couldn't play the game because of some weird memory issue
[19:02:02] <sethion> english.
[19:02:24] <sethion> phew! after all these years I still manage to mess it up
[19:02:44] <freedman> WC2? Or UO
[19:02:54] <sethion> wc2
[19:03:09] <sethion> why didn't garriot produce SI?
[19:03:27] <freedman> Let's see... that was a pure DOS game. I used to play it in OS/2.
[19:03:28] <Colourless> because he didn't :))
[19:03:55] <sethion> but why not? he made all the others, and he doesn't seem to appear in the creds of SI
[19:03:59] <freedman> BTW: WC2 has some funny cheats, where you can blow up everyone with a single keystroke:-)
[19:04:27] <freedman> Sethion: He was mostly just managing by then. I don't think he had much to do with BG either.
[19:05:59] <Colourless> SI of course was mostly you'd say Warren Spector's game. I think one of the factors was because they were making 2 games at the same time. The games had different teams
[19:06:33] <freedman> It does have a much different flavor from the previous Ultima's.
[19:06:46] <sethion> SI, or u7 in general?
[19:06:55] <freedman> SI
[19:07:15] <sethion> it's weird, plotwise
[19:07:58] <Colourless> i think that the 2 worlds of ultima games were also produced by Warren Spector, as were the 2 underworlds
[19:08:31] <freedman> Hmm... I have Martian Dreams, but still haven't played it...
[19:08:51] <sethion> I've never seen the world of u in a single store
[19:09:22] <freedman> They're hard to find, and haven't been produced in years.
[19:10:00] <freedman> Martian Dreams looks like it was done with the same engine as U6.
[19:10:07] <Colourless> it was
[19:10:13] <Colourless> so was savage empire
[19:10:14] <freedman> Have you played it?
[19:10:15] <sethion> SI is the only ultima in which LB's being hated
[19:10:33] <Colourless> i've played Savage Empire
[19:10:49] <Colourless> can't say I did anything in it though. :)
[19:11:19] <sethion> I've never played ultimas 5 and 6
[19:11:24] <freedman> Same here with MD. It just seemed kind of stupid to me.
[19:11:36] <sethion> I want to finish 4 first, but I can't seem to finish it with all the exult-testing and schoolwork and everything
[19:11:50] <freedman> Sethion: You should. They're both excellent.
[19:11:54] <Colourless> Ultima 5 rocks :)
[19:12:15] <Colourless> it really makes blackthorn in Ultima 9 look bad
[19:12:30] <Colourless> let me rephrase that
[19:12:41] <freedman> U5 was another favorite. I seem to have a lot of favorites, but they're all old:-)
[19:12:52] <Colourless> i didn't mean bad as in evel, i mean bad as in badly created character
[19:13:00] <Colourless> s/evel/evil :)
[19:13:03] <freedman> Yes, it wasn't consistent
[19:13:09] <sethion> why is that?
[19:13:22] <freedman> Don't want to ruin U5 for you...
[19:13:29] <sethion> oh, nevermind then.
[19:13:58] <sethion> when shamino walks into a door he will open it, walk through and close it in both BG and SI
[19:14:21] <freedman> A recent feature...
[19:14:41] <sethion> y onyl him and not the other partymembers?
[19:14:52] <sethion> (at least, that's how it seems
[19:14:59] <freedman> They all open doors.
[19:15:14] <freedman> Actually, so do birds:-)
[19:15:21] <sethion> lol :)
[19:15:55] <sethion> hmm
[19:15:56] <sethion> bug
[19:17:12] <freedman> It probably should take a certain intelligence level to open doors.
[19:17:14] <sethion> I entered a house in paws with somebody sleeping in it (in a bed ofcourse). I stole some filari out of the closet, and the woman said 'Leave that be!' now, she's invisible, but still in the bed, because I can't sleep in the bed (partymembers say there's someone in it
[19:17:27] <sethion> that's not what I meant :)
[19:17:50] <freedman> Woops. I know the problem.
[19:18:09] <Colourless> it might or might not be a bug as such. it's kind of hard to tell how the original acted in such situations :)
[19:18:25] <freedman> Actually, sleeping NPC's probably shouldn't detect stealing.
[19:18:38] <Colourless> no they shouldn't
[19:18:49] <freedman> Easy fix.
[19:19:12] <freedman> I don't usually notice these, since I always play a nice guy who never steals:-)
[19:19:46] <sethion> iolo's carrying 33/30
[19:20:06] <sethion> and has two items marked 'Iolo's lute' in his backpack
[19:20:35] <freedman> Strange.
[19:21:08] <sethion> you made exult too addicting
[19:21:35] <freedman> Blame Origin and LB.
[19:21:40] <sethion> ok
[19:21:52] <sethion> lord_british@ea.com right?
[19:22:00] <Colourless> no way :
[19:22:01] <Colourless> )
[19:22:07] <freedman> No. Just a second.
[19:22:25] <sethion> I think it was something like that. Carly once gave it to me
[19:22:39] <freedman> Should be: "Richard Garriott" <rgarriott@britanniamanor.com>
[19:22:48] <sethion> oh
[19:22:54] <sethion> ok, I'll send him an email
[19:23:48] <freedman> I believe Carly (is she 'Lady MOI' is working for his new company.
[19:25:30] <sethion> Dear Lord British,
[19:25:30] <sethion> Thou has made Ultima VII: The Black Gate and The Serpent Isle too addicting. I haven't done proper math homeworks in three days now and it's allYOUR FAULT!
[19:25:30] <sethion> Sincerely,
[19:25:30] <sethion> Guus van Beelen a.k.a. Sethion Dragon
[19:25:44] <sethion> sounds good?
[19:25:51] <freedman> :-) Yes.
[19:26:07] <Colourless> hehe
[19:26:12] <sethion> is that his home email? emails at ea never seemed to reach him
[19:26:12] <freedman> Time for lunch.
[19:26:24] <freedman> Will check back later.
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[19:26:39] <Colourless> that is he personal email as far as I know
[19:26:53] <sethion> Time for (Can't believe I'm saying this!) maths... :-(
[19:27:04] <sethion> But I'll do it behind the computer
[19:27:16] <sethion> does that exultbot ever talk or anything?
[19:28:00] <Colourless> exultbot isn't a person. it's the #exult channel log bot
[19:28:14] <Colourless> it records everthing that occurs in the channel
[19:28:31] <Colourless> of course occasionally wjp makes exultbot say something for fun :)
[19:28:33] <sethion> oh, one of those. yeah. I used to have on of them in the kitchen too
[19:28:51] <Colourless> ?name
[19:28:51] <exultbot> Greetings Avatar. I am called Exultbot.
[19:28:58] <Colourless> ?job
[19:28:58] <exultbot> My job is to write down everything you say.
[19:29:02] <sethion> and I have no clue what I am talking about either.
[19:29:03] <Colourless> ?bye
[19:29:03] <exultbot> Goodbye, Avatar.
[19:29:04] <Colourless> :)
[19:29:10] <sethion> cool! it can talk!
[19:29:16] <Colourless> ?help
[19:29:19] <sethion> ?Kill_Lord_British
[19:29:32] <sethion> ?Kill_Lord_British_NOW!
[19:29:33] <Colourless> type ?help to see what it can do
[19:29:37] <sethion> ?help!!!!!!
[19:29:52] <sethion> ?ultima
[19:29:52] <exultbot> Ultima is an epic RPG game series created by Origin.
[19:30:00] <sethion> oh really?
[19:30:13] <Colourless> there may be more things it can do that are undocumented
[19:30:19] <Colourless> ?ultima
[19:30:19] <exultbot> Ultima is an epic RPG game series created by Origin.
[19:30:23] <Colourless> opps :)
[19:30:25] <Colourless> ?help
[19:30:30] <sethion> I figured. the namejobbye thing
[19:30:37] <sethion> ?sethion
[19:30:39] <sethion> ?wjp
[19:30:44] <sethion> ?exultbot
[19:30:44] <exultbot> Exultbot is written in Perl by Willem Jan Palenstijn.
[19:30:49] <Colourless> ?seen wjp
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[19:30:59] <Colourless> ?seen wjp|work
[19:30:59] <exultbot> wjp|work left IRC around Thu Sep 13 10:57:09 2001 (GMT) ([x]chat)
[19:30:59] <sethion> cool! willemjan made it
[19:31:16] <Colourless> ?seen colourless
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[19:31:21] <sethion> ?seen sethion
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[19:31:38] <sethion> ?wow_you_are_a_clever_one_ain't_ya?
[19:31:50] <sethion> ?oh, exultbot
[19:31:58] <sethion> ?fix_me_dinner
[19:32:07] <sethion> bah! up to no good bot
[19:34:28] <sethion> ?do_my_homework
[19:40:55] <sethion> ok, I'm going offline now, I'll pop in later this evening if I can make it
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[20:30:01] <Colourless> time to leave
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[20:53:27] <sethion> ?job
[20:53:27] <exultbot> My job is to write down everything you say.
[20:53:37] <sethion> ?write
[20:53:39] <sethion> ?say
[20:53:42] <sethion> ?why
[20:53:46] <sethion> ?help
[20:53:54] <sethion> ?exult
[20:53:54] <exultbot> Exult is a project to create an Ultima 7 game engine that runs on modern operating systems, capable of using the data and graphics files that come with the game. See http://exult.sourceforge.net/ for more information.
[20:54:09] <sethion> ?version
[20:54:09] <exultbot> The latest official version of Exult is: 0.93alpha4
[20:54:19] <sethion> Willemjan toch!
[20:54:50] <sethion> het is alpha 5!
[20:55:08] <sethion> ?url
[20:55:08] <exultbot> The official Exult homepage is at: http://exult.sourceforge.net/
[20:55:41] <sethion> ?faq
[20:55:41] <exultbot> You can find the official FAQ at: http://exult.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[20:55:50] <sethion> ?snapshot
[20:55:50] <exultbot> You can find daily windows snapshots at: http://exult.on.openave.net/
[20:56:00] <sethion> WRONG
[20:56:16] <sethion> ?time
[20:56:16] <exultbot> It is now Thu Sep 13 20:56:16 2001 (GMT).
[20:56:48] <sethion> ?date
[20:56:48] <exultbot> It is now Thu Sep 13 20:56:48 2001 (GMT).
[20:56:58] <sethion> ?Alagner
[20:57:01] <sethion> ?avatar
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[21:20:01] <sethion> hoihoi! exultbot is terug@
[21:20:33] * exultbot just updated the version number
[21:20:40] <sethion> ?version
[21:20:40] <exultbot> The latest official version of Exult is: 0.94alpha5
[21:20:46] <sethion> hee wat goed!
[21:23:03] <Fingolfin> ?avatar
[21:23:10] <Fingolfin> not repeatable :)
[21:23:18] <Fingolfin> he sometimes has that habit of leaving :)
[21:23:19] <sethion> hi
[21:23:23] <Fingolfin> ho
[21:23:46] <sethion> ?avatar does nothing, I just wanted to check out if it did
[21:24:32] <exultbot> no, ?avatar does nothing
[21:24:49] <sethion> huh
[21:24:58] <sethion> hmmm
[21:25:07] * sethion is confuzed
[21:25:20] <sethion> ?exultbot, if it does nothing, then why are you answering?
[21:25:20] <exultbot> why?
[21:25:27] <sethion> hey.
[21:25:40] <sethion> yes. why.
[21:25:44] * exultbot is a smart bot
[21:25:53] <sethion> yeah. right.
[21:26:24] <sethion> so, exultbot, how are you doing?
[21:26:35] <sethion> I've been seeing you around alot, but haven't really talked to you.
[21:26:42] <exultbot> just fine, thanks. You?
[21:26:50] <sethion> same here.
[21:27:04] <Fingolfin> sethion: you are talking to a bot, btw
[21:27:09] <Fingolfin> we programmed it to be very clever
[21:27:15] * Fingolfin tosses a cookie to exultbot
[21:27:34] <sethion> only I've got a question. I've pressed some keys, and I don't know which ones, and now all my partymemers' heads and life-bars are displayed at the bottom. how do I remove them
[21:27:44] <sethion> I know Max, just toying around with him.
[21:27:48] <Fingolfin> =)
[21:27:49] * exultbot catches cookie. Yum!
[21:27:50] <Fingolfin> press "r"
[21:27:54] <sethion> r
[21:28:01] <sethion> oh wait
[21:28:02] <sethion> I get it.
[21:28:04] <Fingolfin> sethion: in exult, bloke =)
[21:28:05] <sethion> in the game
[21:28:11] <Fingolfin> exultbot: good boy
[21:28:15] * sethion slams the keyboard in his head
[21:28:19] <sethion> sille my
[21:28:25] <sethion> silly
[21:28:34] * Fingolfin whispers to sethion: you know, exultbot is quite clever, but he leaves saliva everywhere
[21:28:39] <sethion> cool! I can center them! :)
[21:28:39] <exultbot> Woof!
[21:28:43] <sethion> oh wait, now its gone
[21:28:52] <sethion> exultbot, are you a dog?
[21:28:58] <Fingolfin> no a bot
[21:29:02] <Fingolfin> dog-bot
[21:29:03] * exultbot doesn't drool!
[21:29:07] <sethion> yeah, but
[21:29:09] <sethion> lol :)
[21:29:13] <sethion> bots don't go woof
[21:29:15] <sethion> dogs do
[21:29:21] <sethion> bots go zjing...
[21:29:30] <sethion> and rattle-rattle
[21:29:36] <sethion> not woof...
[21:29:39] <sethion> I mean, not normally
[21:29:49] <Fingolfin> mooooo
[21:29:57] <sethion> huh
[21:30:07] <sethion> Maxes usually don't go mooooo either
[21:30:15] <sethion> but it's probably just me
[21:30:30] <Fingolfin> rrrr---ooof
[21:30:34] <Fingolfin> miau
[21:30:39] <sethion> hmmmm
[21:30:43] <Fingolfin> tweeeeet tweet tweet
[21:30:56] <Fingolfin> baaa-rooooooo
[21:31:06] <sethion> by some strange force of nature, all the people of exult suddenly seem to have changed in weirdo's.
[21:31:12] * Fingolfin has lost the last small piece of his mind
[21:31:13] <sethion> scrap the suddenly
[21:31:37] <sethion> scrap the changed, too
[21:31:49] <Fingolfin> sethion: thu willst pay, transgressor!
[21:31:55] <sethion> bot, do you want to play the Game?
[21:31:56] * Fingolfin readies his battle-trout
[21:32:00] <sethion> HELP!
[21:32:08] * sethion runs around in circles
[21:32:20] <sethion> bot is dead
[21:32:25] <Fingolfin> exultbot: prepare to hold him off from pissing at himself while I club him!
[21:32:40] * exultbot smacks sethion around a bit with another large trout. (Larger than Fingolfin's!)
[21:32:46] <sethion> do not do it bot
[21:32:51] * Fingolfin aims careful, calculates quickly the trajectory (studying math pays off!) and fires a small trick-trout at sethion
[21:32:57] * exultbot smacks sethion around a bit with another large trout AGAIN. (Larger than Fingolfin's!)
[21:33:08] * sethion steps aside and the trout drops next to him
[21:33:15] <sethion> hey!
[21:33:21] <sethion> exultbot is stupid
[21:33:28] <Fingolfin> you call *that* trout?
[21:33:37] <Fingolfin> *this* is a trout:
[21:33:38] <Fingolfin> _____ _
[21:33:38] <Fingolfin> |_ _| __ ___ _ _| |_
[21:33:38] <Fingolfin> | || '__/ _ \| | | | __|
[21:33:38] <Fingolfin> | || | | (_) | |_| | |_
[21:33:38] <Fingolfin> |_||_| \___/ \__,_|\__|
[21:33:48] <sethion> you shouldn't smack people with trouts, exultbot, it's bad.
[21:33:49] <Fingolfin> muwahahah
[21:33:50] <sethion> wow!
[21:33:54] <sethion> big fish
[21:33:59] * exultbot smacks sethion around a bit with another large trout YET AGAIN
[21:34:00] * sethion cries for help
[21:34:16] <sethion> I'm feeling left out.
[21:34:18] <sethion> :)
[21:34:33] * sethion 's parents tell him to be quiet and go to bed
[21:34:40] * Fingolfin jumps between exultbot and sethion, and grabs the large trout in mid-flight
[21:34:47] * exultbot smacks sethion around a bit with a Snowy Trout of Shock
[21:34:48] <sethion> gee, thanks max
[21:35:02] * Fingolfin , still being airborne, throws the large trout at sethion
[21:35:15] <sethion> Snowy Trout of Shock? is that the new secret weapon in exult?
[21:35:19] <sethion> hmm
[21:35:24] <sethion> not funny anymore.
[21:35:28] * Fingolfin dons his Helm of Carp, +25% trout resistance
[21:35:31] <sethion> you can stop smacking me with trouts now
[21:35:52] * Fingolfin looks confused for a moment
[21:35:57] * sethion buys an magic armor with 100% trout resistance and backfire
[21:36:06] * sethion and puts it on
[21:36:22] * Fingolfin then pulls out his carp and clubs sethion with that
[21:36:23] <sethion> wjp?
[21:36:24] * exultbot readies a Trout with Ignore Target's Our
[21:36:37] * exultbot readies a Trout with Ignore Target's Armour, even
[21:36:37] <sethion> stop it
[21:36:39] <Fingolfin> exultbot: clever move!
[21:36:44] <Fingolfin> oh ok :)
[21:36:45] <sethion> hmm
[21:36:56] <Fingolfin> sethion: hm.. do you maybe have a SoJ as bribe?
[21:36:58] <sethion> that's not fair! this thing has cost me..umm..a LOT of gold pieces!
[21:37:12] <sethion> SoJ?
[21:37:26] <Fingolfin> or maybay do you have the mythic SoU7 ?????
[21:37:42] <sethion> SoU7?
[21:38:50] <Fingolfin> Source of Ultima 7
[21:38:51] <Fingolfin> :)
[21:38:58] <sethion> oh right.
[21:39:03] <sethion> umm.. I'll check
[21:39:16] <sethion> Sorry, must have left it in my other pants
[21:39:49] <sethion> Source of J?
[21:41:10] <sethion> how do you talk as exultbot?
[21:42:34] <sethion> ?exultbot
[21:42:34] <exultbot> Exultbot is written in Perl by Willem Jan Palenstijn.
[21:42:38] <sethion> ?say
[21:42:42] <sethion> ?say hello
[21:42:49] <sethion> ?speak hello
[21:42:51] <sethion> ?bot hello
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[21:44:12] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult, the open source Ultima 7 and U7 part 2 engine
[21:44:12] --- Topic for #exult set by ChanServ at Tue Sep 4 15:37:35 2001
[21:44:23] <sethion> hello, exultbot
[21:44:28] <sethion> ?name
[21:44:28] <exultbot> Greetings Avatar. I am called Exultbot.
[21:44:33] <sethion> ?avatar
[21:44:37] <sethion> ?job
[21:44:37] <exultbot> My job is to write down everything you say.
[21:44:42] <sethion> ?bye
[21:44:42] <exultbot> Goodbye, Avatar.
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[21:46:55] <Fingolfin> hehe
[21:47:01] <Fingolfin> that was too literally :)
[21:47:02] <sethion> ?Welcome
[21:47:10] <sethion> :)
[21:47:10] <Fingolfin> ?hello
[21:47:13] <Fingolfin> ?hi
[21:47:20] <Fingolfin> ?seen sethion
[21:47:20] <exultbot> sethion is right here!
[21:47:25] <Fingolfin> ?seen wjp
[21:47:25] <exultbot> wjp is known as wjp|work since Thu Sep 13 08:20:58 2001 (GMT)
[21:47:26] <sethion> how can you let him talk
[21:47:30] <Fingolfin> hmmm
[21:47:31] <sethion> wow!
[21:47:35] <sethion> all day at work
[21:47:38] <Fingolfin> exultbot: you are buggy in regards to ?seen again!
[21:47:43] <Fingolfin> ?seen freedman
[21:47:43] <exultbot> freedman left IRC around Thu Sep 13 19:26:26 2001 (GMT) (Leaving)
[21:48:15] <sethion> I remember that. Back in about 5 mins, he said
[21:49:10] <exultbot> Jeff last said "Time for lunch. Will check back later"
[21:49:17] <Fingolfin> yeah!
[21:49:24] <sethion> oh, missed that. was probably doing homework then
[21:49:36] <Fingolfin> exultbot is a bot with perfect memory, I trust him more than you, sethion :)
[21:49:37] <exultbot> The 'back in 5 minutes' was earlier
[21:49:50] <sethion> huh
[21:49:52] <sethion> oh
[21:49:54] <sethion> ok, bot
[21:50:00] <Fingolfin> ?seen wjp
[21:50:00] <exultbot> wjp is known as wjp|work since Thu Sep 13 08:20:58 2001 (GMT)
[21:50:09] <Fingolfin> ?seen dancer
[21:50:09] <exultbot> I haven't seen dancer lately
[21:50:12] <Fingolfin> ?seen nadir
[21:50:12] <exultbot> nadir left IRC around Thu Sep 13 09:12:31 2001 (GMT) (Read error to Nadir[194.244.110.206]: Connection reset by peer)
[21:50:18] <Fingolfin> ?seen colourless
[21:50:18] <exultbot> colourless left IRC around Thu Sep 13 20:30:03 2001 (GMT) ([5:59])
[21:51:03] <sethion> right
[21:51:17] <sethion> but, max, how do you make exultbot say things you want him to say
[21:51:26] <Fingolfin> exultbot: are you familiar with GTK by any chance?
[21:51:32] <Fingolfin> sethion: ?!?
[21:51:54] <sethion> he sais all that stuff about smacking me with a trout, that was you, right?
[21:52:04] <Fingolfin> no
[21:52:18] <Fingolfin> as I said, we have a very clever bot, well programmed
[21:52:26] <Fingolfin> except for that ?seen behaviour
[21:53:28] <exultbot> GTK? yeah, sure
[21:53:28] <Fingolfin> ?seen wjp|work
[21:53:28] <exultbot> wjp|work left IRC around Thu Sep 13 10:57:09 2001 (GMT) ([x]chat)
[21:53:38] <Fingolfin> ah if I follow it... hm
[21:54:05] <Fingolfin> exultbot: ok, you see, we (some people :) are intending to write a new backend for gtk-1.3 for quartz
[21:54:06] <Fingolfin> i.e. OS X
[21:56:37] <sethion> I'm going to get some sleep.
[21:56:44] <sethion> see you tomorrow
[21:57:05] <Fingolfin> cya
[21:57:17] <sethion> ?bye, exultbot
[21:57:26] <sethion> ?bye is what I said!
[21:57:32] <sethion> ?bye
[21:57:32] <exultbot> Goodbye, Avatar.
[21:57:36] <sethion> good bot.
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[21:59:23] * exultbot goes back to being a mostly silent bot
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