#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 14 Apr 2003 (GMT)

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[12:29:04] <Fingolfin> yo
[12:34:43] <Kirben> Hi Fingolfin
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[15:21:19] <artaxerxes> hi all
[15:21:29] <artaxerxes> ?seen wjp
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[15:21:36] <artaxerxes> ?date
[15:21:36] <exultbot> It is now Mon Apr 14 15:21:36 2003 (GMT).
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[16:25:45] <artaxerxes> brb
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[16:47:24] <Colourless> hi
[17:03:31] <artaxerxes> back
[17:03:35] <artaxerxes> hi
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[17:04:39] <wjp> hi
[17:09:45] <Colourless> hi
[17:38:35] <artaxerxes> wjp: are you positive there is no book anywhere that show Dupre's drinking songs?
[17:44:08] <wjp> fairly certain
[17:45:16] <wjp> there are no books with the right shape and quality, AFAICT
[17:55:16] <wjp> it could of course be that those books are usecode-created at some point in the plot
[17:56:39] <Colourless> regarding this conversation, the banes section would seem like as likely as place as any, but i don't think it does exist
[17:57:04] <wjp> could be planted evidence for the trial
[17:57:14] <wjp> (or maybe real evidence, knowing Dupre ;-) )
[17:57:18] <Colourless> :-)
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[18:46:36] <wjp> hi
[18:46:42] <Colourless> hui
[18:46:55] <Fingolfin> hi
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[19:26:21] <artaxerxes> in this case, I'm done translating my last file!
[19:26:30] <wjp> congrats!
[19:26:32] <artaxerxes> thx
[19:26:42] <artaxerxes> I'm still waiting for KK's and Dagon's
[19:26:53] <artaxerxes> both have one file to finish
[19:27:35] <artaxerxes> and I've just checked that it is possible to trigger Olon's VERY long conversation, so that means I'll have to finish it! :-(
[19:34:24] <wjp> :/
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[19:57:20] <wjp> hm, there's a '124' here somewhere near a create item call in SI's usecode
[19:58:51] <wjp> bad news
[19:59:09] <wjp> both the drinking songs books are created by usecode
[19:59:45] <wjp> created somewhere when the banes are released, it seems
[20:00:27] <wjp> Olon gets them in his inventory at that time
[20:01:38] <wjp> the only minor detail is that he's dead at the time, IIRC
[20:02:30] <wjp> weird
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[20:08:28] <wjp> it could be on his body, but I'm not sure I want to search all of Fawn for it :/
[20:08:44] <Soul|LOVE> hmm
[20:08:44] <Soul|LOVE> well
[20:08:47] <Soul|LOVE> after the banes are released
[20:08:57] <Soul|LOVE> all the needed characters will just drop dead, right?
[20:09:15] <Soul|LOVE> knock olon unconscious, put him in your pack, then drop him off at the wall of lights and release the banes!
[20:09:35] <wjp> interesting idea :-)
[20:09:54] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[20:10:13] <wjp> or I could look Olon up while in map-editor mode, so the egg that kills him won't be triggered
[20:10:14] <artaxerxes> well, I guess I'll have to translate some drinking songs!
[20:10:22] * artaxerxes hums "rolls thy leg iver"
[20:10:37] * wjp s/i/o/'s in artaxerxes' humming
[20:10:39] <artaxerxes> over
[20:10:48] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[20:11:12] <wjp> hm, the wall of lights sequence is much smoother than the last time I tried it
[20:11:29] <wjp> the party moves to the right positions, so you can actually sort out their stuff properly :-)
[20:12:06] <wjp> ugh, but the guardian/serpent speech is behaving very weird
[20:12:59] <artaxerxes> transparency pb?
[20:13:05] <artaxerxes> (used to be the case)
[20:13:10] <wjp> no, the text is in weird places
[20:13:51] * artaxerxes just come back from scummvm site. Pretty sad news about that kid.
[20:14:24] <wjp> hm, Olon doesn't seem to have it in his inventory
[20:14:34] <wjp> yeah, very sad :/
[20:14:59] <wjp> well, it creates it _somewhere_ anyway
[20:15:06] <artaxerxes> does the usecode function tells you where?
[20:15:40] <wjp> well, if I'm reading this right it should be adding it to NPC #58
[20:16:04] <wjp> it also adds a bottle to his inventory, and I do see that
[20:17:13] <wjp> maybe exult doesn't add them because there's no room
[20:18:25] <artaxerxes> maybe not such a bad news after all! ;-)
[20:18:35] <artaxerxes> do you have a samegame from after the bane release?
[20:18:44] <wjp> lots
[20:19:21] <artaxerxes> maybe it would be possible to autopsy one of those to find a book with this property
[20:19:28] <Fingolfin> wjp: now we can
[20:19:48] <wjp> Fingolfin: yes,
[20:20:09] <Fingolfin> how true =)
[20:20:14] <wjp> lol
[20:22:32] <Fingolfin> consider it an interesting one time experiment =)
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[20:23:17] * wjp uses his SQL-dump feature to dump all objects
[20:23:26] <wjp> it's not on the main map it seems
[20:23:42] <artaxerxes> in a container?
[20:24:14] <wjp> no, container contents are dumped too
[20:24:24] <wjp> NPC inventories probably aren't, though
[20:24:30] <wjp> brb
[20:25:20] <artaxerxes> 2003-04-12 Jeff Freedman <jeff@amy.nerble.net>
[20:25:20] <artaxerxes> * party.cc,gamewin.cc: Experimental (and half-done) code to have
[20:25:20] <artaxerxes> the party walk in formation.
[20:26:49] <Soul|LOVE> wjp
[20:26:51] <Soul|LOVE> tell me
[20:26:55] <Soul|LOVE> why does exult not use the house of the dead?
[20:26:57] <Soul|LOVE> as in
[20:27:03] <Soul|LOVE> what happens to exult npcs when they die
[20:27:27] <wjp> b
[20:27:41] <wjp> well, the house of the dead is rather weird
[20:27:48] <Soul|LOVE> tell me abuot it
[20:27:54] <wjp> in exult when NPCs are dead they're just removed from the map
[20:27:57] <Soul|LOVE> i spent months messing with it with my old SI game and a hex editor
[20:28:03] <Soul|LOVE> hmm
[20:28:08] <Soul|LOVE> so they don't actually exist in-game anymore?
[20:28:15] <wjp> not physically
[20:28:25] <wjp> (whatever that means in this case :-) )
[20:28:29] <Soul|LOVE> ah ok
[20:28:33] <wjp> NPCs are never really deleted
[20:28:36] <Soul|LOVE> and upon resurrection
[20:28:40] <Soul|LOVE> they are given an object again
[20:28:47] <wjp> something like that
[20:28:54] <wjp> I'm not very familiar with the internals
[20:30:31] * artaxerxes is compiling exult with party formation! ;-)
[20:35:40] <wjp> artaxerxes: is the party formation code used already?
[20:35:48] <wjp> I thought it wasn't being called yet?
[20:38:02] <artaxerxes> oh! I haven't peared into the source to see what's up!
[20:38:24] <artaxerxes> I mean peered
[20:54:07] <wjp> I should be going
[20:54:08] <wjp> night
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[20:56:11] <artaxerxes> see ya
[21:07:18] <artaxerxes> just finished the compil'
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