#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 14 Dec 2001 (GMT)

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[00:29:59] <wjp> hi
[00:35:34] * wjp has to go
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[04:13:58] <EazyClaus> hello sirs
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[09:16:08] <Dominus> hi
[09:16:10] <Dominus> finally an op has arrived :-)
[09:16:34] <Dominus> Soul|NOTLOVE: how are you today?
[09:18:41] <sbx> hi
[09:20:01] <sbx> maybe Soul|NOTLOVE deleted those files already
[09:20:53] <Dominus> sbx: I know but I'd still like to know :-)
[09:21:25] <Dominus> And also i'd really like to know how he's feeling today as two days ago, he wasn't feeling too hot
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[09:22:26] <sbx> Dominus: he told you what was wrong before he told me
[09:23:05] <Dominus> he told the channel in general, I think
[09:23:41] <sbx> yes but before that when i asked him he said "i dont wanna talk about it"
[09:24:01] * Dominus seems to remember dimly
[09:24:13] <matto> Dominus!!! sbx!!! wumpus!!!
[09:24:32] <Wumpus> `lo matto, dominus, sbx
[09:24:49] * Dominus says "oh no, watch out, it's matto, run and hide"
[09:24:59] <Dominus> hi Wumpus
[09:25:01] * Wumpus sulks
[09:25:06] <Wumpus> i want people to run and hide from *me*
[09:25:07] <sbx> hi Wumpus
[09:25:13] <sbx> oh
[09:25:17] <Dominus> he he
[09:25:20] <sbx> its ok
[09:25:24] * sbx pats Wumpus on the back.
[09:25:37] <Dominus> Wumpus: you have to be here 24/7 and then people will hide from you
[09:26:19] * sbx hides from matto.
[09:26:36] <Wumpus> but if someone is here 24/7, wouldn't the most effective way of hiding from them be not to come here inthe first place? :-P
[09:27:16] <Dominus> :-)
[09:27:18] <sbx> exult is too hard to resist
[09:31:52] <sbx> toadsmoke wants to know what aspect of spark's ass will be discussed this week
[09:32:06] <Dominus> argh
[09:32:09] <Dominus> don't answer
[09:32:15] <matto> haha toad smoke!
[09:45:12] * sbx is gonna go early.
[09:45:14] <sbx> mornin
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[09:52:43] * Darke bows, "Hello all."
[09:53:41] <Dominus> hi
[09:55:04] <matto> well hello there, Darkefluff!
[09:58:39] * Darke decides to be proactive on the 'hide from matto' front and drops a box over him. He figures matto can't scare those who can't see him.
[09:59:47] <Wumpus> hmm is he a relative of the Bugblatter Beast of Traal?
[10:05:30] * Darke is unsure, but figures it can't _hurt_ to try.
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[10:20:04] <Dominus> Darke: can I dcc you a picture?
[10:20:14] <Dominus> about a bunny
[10:20:19] <Dominus> you will like that
[10:25:01] * Darke nods. "Feel free, if dcc works. It has a tendancy of not working for me."
[10:25:48] <Dominus> well that is slow
[10:26:12] * Darke coolfluffs and twiddles his claws. "Indeed. I don't know what's slowing it down."
[10:28:55] <Dominus> there you are
[10:34:48] <Darke> Cool! Thanks! I'd seen that somewhere before, but couldn't locate a copy. <grin>
[10:34:59] <Dominus> he he
[10:35:08] <Dominus> thought you would like that
[10:36:48] <Darke> <grin> And on an almost completely unrelated note: http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2832151,00.html Evil pigs vs. Cute innocent bunnies. I LIKE!
[10:38:04] <Dominus> he he
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[10:40:41] <wjp> hi
[10:40:57] <Dominus> hi
[10:44:00] <Darke> Hi wjp.
[10:49:36] <Dominus> got to go now
[10:49:38] <Dominus> bye
[10:49:42] <wjp> bye
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[11:30:08] * Darke greetingsbows.
[11:30:22] <wjp> hi
[11:33:08] <Nadir> hi
[11:33:17] <Nadir> I'm doing that midi looping thing...
[11:35:26] <Nadir> wjp: you use x-chat ?
[11:36:43] <Nadir> How dow I specify multiple auto join channels in the Edit Server entry ?
[11:36:55] <Nadir> comma separated doesn't seem to work
[11:37:03] <matto> Nadir: #sdl,#loki,#exult
[11:37:04] <matto> for example
[11:37:46] <Nadir> thx
[11:37:49] <wjp> hmm, I don't really use autojoin, actually
[11:42:02] <Nadir> yes, but for some reason my x-chat forgets about scripts
[11:45:05] <wjp> I have to go
[11:45:05] <wjp> bye
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[11:46:43] <Nadir> I'm going too
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[12:18:28] * Darke thinks it's rather quiet in the old channel tonight.
[12:21:22] <matto> you mean this morning? :)
[12:33:04] * Darke points to his GMT +1000 sign. <grin>
[12:44:25] * matto probes Darke with a CTCP FINGER
[12:48:41] * Darke wonders whether that is anything like an ana... no let's not go there.
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[12:57:22] <matto> hey Colourless
[12:57:43] <Colourless> hi
[12:58:00] <Darke> Hi Colourless.
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[15:26:09] * Darke drops a handful of tacks.
[15:26:32] <Colourless> pick 'em up
[15:27:17] * matto notes that Darke is not tack-tless
[15:27:21] <matto> err is NOW tack-tless
[15:28:06] * matto takes out an electric razor and begins shaving designs in Darke's fur
[15:29:10] * Darke is never tactless... or rather, almost never tactless.
[15:32:17] * Darke wonders if telling two does (who were good friends), that each of them is the most cute doe in the world, and they both found out about it, exhibits a lack of 'tact' or a lack of 'intelligence'.
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[16:20:13] <destruct> hi, um
[16:20:23] * Darke bows, "Hello."
[16:20:24] <destruct> I have a newbiesque question if anyone is around
[16:20:34] <Colourless> hi
[16:20:45] <destruct> I'm trying to compile ucxt on a linux shell
[16:21:11] <destruct> it seems to go okay at first
[16:21:30] <destruct> but then I get "src/ucdump.cc:17: config.h: No such file or directory"
[16:21:32] <Colourless> darke, this sounds like one for you :-)
[16:21:57] <destruct> bear in mind that I'm not really a programmer
[16:22:07] <Darke> Colourless: <grin> Maybe.
[16:22:08] <destruct> so if this is really obvious you'll have to forgive me :)
[16:22:22] <Darke> destruct: Have you got the latest cvs version? Or is this a sourcecode snapshot?
[16:22:41] <destruct> I just got the latest cvs version about a half hour ago
[16:24:33] <Colourless> first I'll just ask, are you doing all the correct auto configure stuff?
[16:24:37] <Darke> destruct: In the ucdump.cc file on line 13 there is a '#define HAVE_CONFIG_H' line. Delete the line completely and try again.
[16:24:49] <destruct> ok
[16:24:53] * Darke was just wondering that.
[16:26:02] <destruct> hmm, probably not
[16:26:23] <destruct> deleting the line gives me a few more errors
[16:26:38] <Colourless> how are you attempting to compile ucxt?
[16:27:10] <destruct> I make -f makefile.unix in exult/usecode/ucxt/
[16:27:28] <Colourless> ah, that's why it doesn't work
[16:27:37] <Darke> Good. <grin> In which case it means it can't find config.h. Erk... out of date, sorry. It's been integrated into the main configure system. I need to get rid of that file.
[16:28:04] <destruct> I did try to compile the whole thing
[16:28:25] * Darke now remembers _exactly_ why that line was in place. An early hack to get that makefile.unix to work. Blah. What a dumb bunny.
[16:28:31] <destruct> but sdl doesn't seem to be installed on the system I'm using
[16:29:00] <destruct> and since I'm only really interested in getting the compiler I thought I could save some time by just compiling that
[16:29:04] <Darke> Does configure, actually create a config.h? Or does it bomb out before that.
[16:29:50] <destruct> hmm, I'll just check
[16:30:30] <Darke> It just needs a config.h to get a few constants... I think I can hack in a work around if it doesn't work.
[16:31:01] <destruct> doesn't seem to
[16:32:15] <Darke> In the ucxt directory, what happens of you just type 'make'?
[16:32:33] <destruct> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[16:34:18] <Darke> Hmm... it's not going to work then. Just a sec, I'm testing a change that may make it work with the makefile.unix. But it'll only make ucxt work. Not the compiler.
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[16:34:30] <Colourless> hi
[16:34:35] <Darke> Hi. <bow>
[16:37:12] <Nadir> destruct: in order to do what yoy want, we'd have to add a --disable-exult flag to configure
[16:37:34] <Nadir> what distribution are you using ?
[16:37:57] <destruct> linux distro?
[16:38:09] <Nadir> yes
[16:38:18] <destruct> um, I think its debian
[16:38:27] <destruct> its not actually my system, heh
[16:38:59] * Darke has gotten ucxt to work again, using makefile.unix.
[16:39:28] <Nadir> Darke: good, but we need to do it properly
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[16:39:32] <Colourless> hi
[16:39:48] <Fingolfin> lo
[16:39:52] <Darke> Which is probably an 'elegant' solution for a tool anyway. The main problem is, however it needs to have a few of the exult files built as well. Which could be more tricky.
[16:40:00] <Darke> Hi Fingolfin.
[16:40:11] <matto> MAX HORN!!!!!!!!!!
[16:40:23] * Darke does agree that it probably should be done properly.
[16:41:47] <Nadir> Darke: you need libconf and libu7file
[16:42:55] <Darke> Nadir: Actually two .o files IIRC. <grin> But to get those you need... config.h!
[16:43:07] <Nadir> :)
[16:45:08] * Darke starts working out how to reanimate a dead 'configuration' of exult to one that has just enough life to create ucxt.
[16:48:53] <Darke> Bah. No go. I'd have to a sufficiently large number of #defines in files/, that it'd look like the Bride of Frakenstein. Someone's better of 'fixing' configure. <grin>
[16:51:45] <Nadir> going now. bye
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[17:04:59] <wjp> hi
[17:05:04] <Colourless> hi
[17:05:35] <Darke> Hello.
[17:08:16] <matto> WJP!!!
[17:08:25] <wjp> matto!!!!!
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[23:17:42] <wjp> *grin*... hey... we have a bug in one of our debugging statements
[23:17:52] <matto> hehe
[23:17:57] <wjp> std::cerr << "Shape num out of range: shapenum" << std::endl;
[23:17:58] <Colourless> heh :-)
[23:18:10] * wjp is pretty sure that should be ... of range: " << shapenum << ...
[23:18:16] <matto> hehehe
[23:21:27] <Kirben> Colourless: Had a chance to update snapshots installer ?
[23:23:05] <wjp> Colourless and/or Kirben: have you tried starting a new SI game in windows since the beta?
[23:23:17] <wjp> (re. Kurt's problem on the forum)
[23:23:27] <Kirben> no but I willin a sec.
[23:23:41] <wjp> thanks
[23:24:20] <Colourless> kirben, i've got the installer ready, I've just got to write a new version of the updater program
[23:24:44] <Kirben> Works fine here, other than mouse pointer showing up straight away.
[23:25:21] <Colourless> i'll write the new version of updater this evening.
[23:25:27] <Colourless> it's now time for me to leave
[23:25:42] <wjp> night
[23:25:48] <wjp> Kirben: ok, thanks for checking
[23:26:01] <Colourless> bye
[23:26:02] <Kirben> Colourless: ok, just a email copy anytime if I'm not on IRC
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[23:26:04] <Kirben> cya
[23:26:11] <Kirben> oops too late
[23:38:49] * wjp doesn't have a clue what's causing this bug Kurt is experiencing
[23:39:37] <wjp> SI just crashes on a new game, even after a clean install of both SI and Exult