#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 14 Jul 2002 (GMT)

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[00:32:51] --- Darke|afk is now known as Darke
[00:32:57] * Darke earperks. Worms? Oh, hi.
[00:33:04] <wjp> hi :-)
[00:33:09] <wjp> worms are gone by now :-)
[00:33:22] * wjp just went through the Fawn Trial
[00:33:34] <wjp> one strange thing there:
[00:33:44] <wjp> I didn't speak with some of the people in Fawn before the trial,
[00:34:07] <wjp> so when it was time to call 'my' witnesses, their names were listed as "woman", "gypsy", etc...
[00:34:23] <wjp> they were actually called to the stand as "woman, please step forward" :-)
[00:39:29] * Darke cackles.
[00:39:51] <Darke> Is that a bug in the original? Or just exult? *grin*
[00:40:03] <wjp> it sounds kind of like a bug from the original
[00:40:56] * Darke nods. Agreed.
[00:59:29] <wjp> Gorlab...
[01:01:39] <wjp> hmm... this isn't good... I don't seem to have the Rose of Love
[01:02:51] <wjp> oh... nm... a party member has it hidden under piles of money
[01:03:02] * Darke snickers.
[01:04:17] <wjp> yay, got placed in the dream realm near siranush right away
[01:10:56] <wjp> dream realm done...
[01:11:21] <wjp> "Hasten! The imbalance grows stronger"
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[01:21:29] <wjp> hi Travis
[01:21:51] <Darke> Hi.
[01:24:27] <Kirben> Hi
[01:30:16] <wjp> hmm... 3:30am again... ah well... more SI tomorrow :-)
[01:30:19] <wjp> g'night
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[11:22:24] <wjp> hi
[11:22:50] <Darke> Hi.
[11:48:53] <wjp> hmm... do you remember how exactly the infinity symbol in your spellbook looked?
[11:48:58] <wjp> (when using the ring of reagents)
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[11:59:17] <Darke> No idea sorry, I've never played SI.
[11:59:43] <wjp> never played SI!? *gasp*
[12:00:18] <Darke> Nope. Nor the FOV expansion to BG either! *gasp!*
[12:02:09] <wjp> but... but... *speechless*
[12:02:19] <wjp> how... why... *gasp*
[12:04:01] <Darke> Well, because I had the original BG disks from when they originally released it, and nothing else. *grin*
[12:05:40] <Darke> That, and the only reason I knew of SI/SS/FOV's existance was one computer magazine acquired a few years later, I never even saw the upgrade, nor SI in stores in any of the computer shops in .au.
[12:06:16] <wjp> by the time I heard of Ultima, the only U7 that was still available was The Complete U7 :-)
[12:07:37] * Darke snickers. He somehow managed to acquire his copy of 'the complete u7' in a bargin bin 18 months ago. His copy of U1-8 was from the U9 Dragon Edition. He actually saw a copy of it sitting on a store shelf about a week ago too.
[12:07:47] <Darke> (The U9 Dragon Edition, that is.)
[12:16:54] <wjp> hmm.. the spellbook seems to be wrong in multiple places
[12:17:11] <wjp> the buttons on the right page seem to be one or two pixel too far to the right
[12:17:26] <wjp> and those on the left page too far to the left
[12:18:16] <Darke> Looks like there needs to be a few offset values tweaked.
[12:54:06] * Darke sleeps. Night!
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[12:55:23] <wjp> night
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[14:22:13] <Colourless> hi
[14:22:16] <wjp> hi
[16:36:32] <wjp> brb, dinner
[17:31:30] <wjp> I have to go
[17:31:32] <wjp> bye
[17:31:38] <Colourless> cya
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[18:32:20] <Dominus> hi
[18:32:27] <Colourless> hi
[18:32:39] * Dominus wonders where our lurkers and non-team members went to
[18:33:02] <Dominus> Colourless: I solved my Neverwinter night problem by using GlDirect by SciTech
[18:33:49] <Colourless> that's good. i would have recommend you try turning off "Legacy Texture Compression" in 3dfx tools
[18:35:05] * Dominus tries that
[18:36:11] <Dominus> well, that worked somewhat :-)
[18:36:25] <Colourless> details? :-)
[18:36:49] <Dominus> it didn't crash outright but first loaded something up, my screen went black and then it scrashed without notice
[18:37:03] <Colourless> oh well
[18:37:42] <Colourless> want to test something for me? :-)
[18:37:50] <Dominus> always
[18:38:55] <Colourless> ok
[18:39:36] <Colourless> all 'new' glide drivers... including a completely new rewritten glide2x
[18:39:50] * Dominus drools
[18:40:02] * Dominus has to wipe of the drool from his keyboard
[18:41:54] <Dominus> hm, normally I don't really have to restart windows to make use of those drivers, just copying them into the system32 dir is enough right? (as long as glide is not in use)
[18:42:00] <Colourless> just copy them
[18:42:21] <Dominus> wow that glide2 is tiny
[18:42:32] <Colourless> yep
[18:43:09] <Colourless> that's because it a "Glide2 to Glide3 Translator"
[18:44:38] <Colourless> my old glide2x used to pretty much used to be a translator as well, but it included all of the glide3 stuff as well. this new one requires glide3x to work while the old one didnt
[18:44:52] <Dominus> what opengl32.dll are you using?
[18:45:10] <Colourless> 1.0.0.0734 I
[18:45:19] <Colourless> (ignore the I)
[18:45:51] <Dominus> ok, I tried NWN with the 761 and it's a no go
[18:46:11] <Colourless> well, those dlls aren't for nwn. they are for other games :-)
[18:46:20] <Colourless> the glide2x dll fixes a number of existing problem
[18:46:34] <Dominus> ok, let me try with my favourite emulator
[18:46:52] <Colourless> in fact i would almost go to the extent of saying that it fixes 'all' problem, except for the ones that it introduces :-)
[18:48:09] <Dominus> :-)
[18:49:04] <Colourless> and how is it?
[18:49:22] <Dominus> well, unable to load glide3x.dll
[18:50:16] <Dominus> ok, but it still works with another hack/fix
[18:50:30] <Dominus> it never worked ok with glideXP
[18:50:42] <Colourless> you got a message box saying "Glide2x Error" "Unable to load glide3x.dll"
[18:51:56] <Dominus> yep
[18:52:12] <Colourless> what happens if you copy both files to the emulators director
[18:52:13] <Colourless> y
[18:52:21] <Dominus> same
[18:52:36] <Colourless> how about other glide2 games?
[18:52:59] <Dominus> hm, it works fine with Pj64 (glide3 graphics plugin)
[18:53:07] <Colourless> not glide3, glide2 :-)
[18:53:24] <Dominus> I know, unfortunately I have to install some first
[18:54:31] * Colourless slaps Dominus around a bit with a large trout
[18:54:35] <Colourless> opps :-)
[18:54:42] <Dominus> btw, did you get rid of the unfortunate crash of the OS when you exit a full screen OpenGl (like Pentagram Mapdisplay or Underworld Adventures?)
[18:55:00] <Colourless> um, no
[18:55:36] <Dominus> so, Ultima9 should be fine for testing?
[18:55:49] <Colourless> yes
[18:55:59] <Colourless> try "test.exe"
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[18:56:38] <sbx> hi
[18:56:46] <Colourless> hi
[18:57:25] <Dominus> Colourless:test exe runs but doesn't do anything on the red/blue triangel screen when you press p,r,s
[18:57:50] <Colourless> you need to have the splash screen enabled in 3dfx tools for it to work
[18:58:03] <Dominus> oh
[18:58:54] <Colourless> i've actually been partly designing a new splash screen. nothing special, just something that says glidexp
[18:59:26] <sbx> hmm
[18:59:26] <Dominus> he he
[18:59:29] <Dominus> works fine
[18:59:36] <sbx> splash screen is first thing i disabled when i got 3dfx control panel :)
[19:00:11] <Colourless> :-)
[19:00:11] <Dominus> there'S nothing I hate most than splash screens
[19:00:37] <Colourless> i was thinking of being 'evil' and forcing people to watch the splash screen at least once :-)
[19:01:00] <Colourless> what emulator has the problem>
[19:01:07] <Dominus> UltraHle
[19:01:13] <Dominus> but never mind that one
[19:01:55] <Dominus> with hoe's fixed glide2 and another fix for it it works fine (except for flames that are not translucent)
[19:02:21] <Dominus> where is my U9 CD...
[19:02:51] * Dominus thinks he should restore balance of order and chaos
[19:03:13] <Dominus> ah, there is is
[19:03:30] <Colourless> the reason I want it is so i can find out what the problem is
[19:03:56] <Dominus> ah, you want it?
[19:04:00] <Colourless> yeah
[19:05:00] <Colourless> i'm downloading it now
[19:05:55] <Dominus> can I send you the glidefix?
[19:06:07] <Dominus> when your line is clear again :-)
[19:06:24] <Colourless> done
[19:07:14] <Colourless> strange. got the error on start up for me too
[19:07:25] <Dominus> in this file there is a glide2x.dll that is the fix and a glide oglide2x.dll that is hoe's fix
[19:07:49] <Dominus> ultra was for the V1 actually
[19:08:02] <Dominus> and newer V2 drivers already needed this fix
[19:08:11] <Colourless> yeah, well, it still shouldn't be doing 'that'
[19:08:35] <Colourless> what does the fix do?
[19:08:54] <Dominus> using this glide2x.dll and then the glide2x.dll from the system as oglide2x.dll in the game dir
[19:09:00] <Dominus> not sure
[19:09:11] <Dominus> no one ever explained it and there is no source for it
[19:09:16] <Colourless> looks like it's an interceptor or some sort
[19:09:20] <Dominus> (I searched)
[19:11:03] <sbx> who is hoe?
[19:12:07] <Dominus> some guy who was the first to fix some problems of Voodoos with XP
[19:12:26] <sbx> ok
[19:12:34] <sbx> when you first said hoe i was thinking of hoe of destruction
[19:12:35] <Dominus> now why won't U9 start installing...
[19:13:33] <Colourless> ok, got it to work now :;-)
[19:13:51] <Dominus> :<p:1.0:skin:";-)":";-)" ?
[19:14:08] <Colourless> ??
[19:14:13] <sbx> DivX;-)
[19:15:11] <Dominus> Colourless: for some strange reason U9 won't install on XP
[19:17:17] <Colourless> i need a rom
[19:17:25] <Dominus> I thought that
[19:17:37] <Dominus> but they are all fairly large and I have no demo
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[20:36:33] * Dominus hates his scanner and its crappy drivers....
[20:36:45] <Colourless> what scanner?
[20:36:56] <Dominus> Epson perfection 1200U
[20:37:07] <Colourless> what's the problem with it's drivers?
[20:37:49] <Dominus> that it craps out every 10 scans seemingly loosing connection to the scanner
[20:38:51] <Dominus> really annoying
[20:39:26] <Dominus> at least I figured out how to re-boot the scanner without having to reboot XP
[20:41:09] <Dominus> 1. stop the service of MS responsible for grabbing scans ands such
[20:41:19] <Dominus> 2. turn on/off scanner
[20:41:36] <Dominus> 3. wait for the device manager sound (found new device)
[20:41:46] <Dominus> 4. restart the service
[20:43:21] <Dominus> and there is nothing there on the various epson sites to help with such a problem...
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[22:03:17] <timofoni> hi
[22:03:24] <timofoni> were download zak256 ?
[22:03:28] <timofoni> please me help
[22:03:33] <sbx> ?
[22:05:10] <timofoni> zak256: is the 256 colors of "Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders"
[22:05:17] <timofoni> zak256: is the 256 colors version of "Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders"
[22:05:51] <sbx> never heard of it
[22:08:18] <timofoni> no ?
[22:08:20] <timofoni> :P
[22:08:33] <timofoni> the zak256.com is off
[22:08:39] <timofoni> and i need zak256
[22:08:39] <timofoni> :(
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[22:54:47] <wjp> hi
[22:55:00] <Colourless> hi
[22:55:40] <wjp> timofoni: huh?
[22:55:46] <wjp> where? who? what?
[22:58:52] * Colourless has no idea
[22:59:02] <wjp> timofoni: I (and I think the rest of us here) are not going to help you download warez; whether you own the game or not
[22:59:38] <timofoni> !!!
[22:59:40] <timofoni> warez ?
[22:59:42] <timofoni> not
[22:59:50] <timofoni> zak256 never released comercially
[22:59:56] <timofoni> then isnt warez
[23:00:31] <wjp> the original version was released commercially
[23:00:52] <wjp> this is a derivative work, I would say
[23:03:36] <timofoni> comercially zak for Fm-Towns ?
[23:03:53] <timofoni> i have a friend with this console...
[23:03:57] <timofoni> have a lot of games
[23:04:01] * wjp doesn't really have a clue what he's talking about, btw :-)
[23:04:10] <timofoni> :P
[23:04:17] <timofoni> you have zak256 ?
[23:04:17] <timofoni> :P
[23:04:26] <wjp> no
[23:04:33] <timofoni> ehmm...
[23:04:41] <timofoni> you dont send me to me, true ?
[23:04:43] <timofoni> hehe
[23:04:49] <wjp> huh?
[23:05:11] <timofoni> zak256... have it but... is "ilegal"
[23:05:15] <timofoni> ilegal ?
[23:05:15] <timofoni> :P
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[23:16:24] <sbx> hi wjp
[23:16:28] <wjp> hi
[23:16:44] * sbx said that 5 min ago and just now realized he wasn't connected. :O
[23:16:51] <wjp> :-)
[23:21:33] <timofoni> :P
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[23:35:17] <sbx> i cant thing of anything to change on this green shirt now so i guess its done
[23:35:20] <sbx> does anyone here want it?
[23:35:49] * wjp raises hand :-)
[23:36:26] * sbx sends.
[23:36:46] <sbx> i thought it would look better without the black outline, but it doesnt
[23:36:48] <sbx> so im keeping that
[23:37:12] <wjp> *sigh* don't have gimp plugin installed
[23:37:23] <sbx> but im no artist so it could be all wrong
[23:37:23] <sbx> oh :)
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[23:39:43] <sbx> will you consider adding it to exult?
[23:39:57] <sbx> it's not like the green shirt already in there is any better (because there is no green shirt already in there)
[23:40:26] <wjp> hehe :-)
[23:40:36] <wjp> I'm adding it right now, in fact :-)
[23:42:00] <wjp> hm, which shape/frame is it for?
[23:42:34] <wjp> 249/0, I guess?
[23:43:57] --- Darke|afk is now known as Darke
[23:44:04] <wjp> hi Darke
[23:44:10] <wjp> you're late ;-)
[23:44:33] <Darke> Hi. Just a little. *grin* I went for my morning walk before unafking.
[23:50:26] <wjp> ack.. have to recompile everything because config.h changed :-(
[23:50:35] <wjp> (forgot to enable the gimp plugin.. oops :-) )
[23:51:15] * Darke snickers. Have fun. *grin*
[23:51:36] <wjp> yay, done :-)
[23:52:02] <wjp> now, let's take a look at that shirt :-)
[23:53:05] <wjp> very nice :-)
[23:53:16] <wjp> and no need for offset tweaking either :-)
[23:53:22] <wjp> sbx: thanks
[23:59:48] <sbx> eh oops i was afk