#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 15 Nov 2002 (GMT)

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[00:44:57] <matto> wow dancer is here
[00:45:29] <dancer> It's known to happen, despite my almost legendary distaste for IRC.
[00:45:39] <matto> :)
[00:48:55] <dancer> It's not been that long, anyway. I just got mildly distracted.
[00:50:04] <matto> oh.. I am not in here every day
[00:50:16] <matto> the last time I remember seeing you in here was like... must've been 2 years ago :)
[00:51:53] <dancer> Call it a geek-focus thing. Haven't you ever been distracted by something for three or four years?
[00:55:29] <matto> I suppose I have
[00:57:25] <dancer> Well, then. I got distracted. I changed jobs a couple times, went into consulting, trained a lot of senior IT people, I'm helping my wife with the O'Reilly book she's just about finished and I was approached by a game-developer to design an RPG for them (nothing ever really came of that, though).
[00:57:52] <matto> how did they find you?
[01:00:10] <dancer> Through a friend of a friend who's worked on a couple projects. He was on the art team for Starship Troopers and he's been modelling and doing art for a few development teams over the years.
[01:00:55] <matto> nice
[01:01:02] <dancer> It's easier to get into gamedev from the art side, apparently. Most professional artists are good. Most professional programmers are not.
[01:04:06] <dancer> Thus the bars are set very high as far as programmers are concerned. And if you can get past HR, the director probably won't want to hire you.
[01:05:02] <matto> that isn't too reassuring hehe
[01:06:20] <dancer> One way or another to get into gamedev you've got to have help from the inside. Someone you know in the industry, or someone in the industry who knows you.
[01:07:06] <matto> now that I have
[01:09:16] * dancer is known by most of the ISP's and medium to large software companies in Australia, Europe and America. That, alas, doesn't help as much as you might think. It does when the economic climate's good, but the rest of the time, *pft*
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[01:10:51] <matto> dancer: that sounds somewhat boastful
[01:12:12] <dancer> matto: It does. It's true, though.
[01:12:49] <matto> I don't see how you could accurately track that
[01:13:16] * dancer hasn't had a job interview in maybe 18 years. All my jobs have been offers, with staff making themselves available for interview.
[01:13:47] <dancer> matto: Oh, 6600 emails per day, of which about 3700 are requests for technical assistance.
[01:13:58] <dancer> About 2000 are spam.
[01:14:59] <dancer> Since I have no formal qualifications, I couldn't get past an HR picket-line in a pink-fit. I have to rely on my reputation to get me job offers.
[01:16:11] <dancer> My last job was Akamai. Nice place to work, but commuting to California every two weeks was deadly.
[01:17:04] <dancer> Well....every four. 2 weeks working remotely. Two weeks working in San Mateo.
[01:28:45] <dancer> It's 12:30pm. Time to get ready to go to the office. Be back later.
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[05:32:12] <Kirben> We should make exult mailing lists, subscribers postings only.
[05:32:58] <Kirben> too much spam lately.
[05:35:38] <Darke> Was thinking that, unfortunately we get lots of 'fanmail' though them
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[10:09:51] <ISVRaDa> Hello
[10:12:22] <Darke> HI.
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[12:47:26] <Colourless> hi
[12:57:12] <Darke> Hi.
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[14:20:56] <SB-X> hi
[14:22:18] <Darke> Hi.
[14:37:12] <SB-X> hows it goin?
[14:38:16] <Darke> Not too bad. Slowly hacking away at the decompiler for pentagram. *grin*
[14:45:49] <SB-X> Did you finish the syntax highlighting?
[14:48:51] <Darke> Hmm... can't remember. And I had to quickly kill my machine because of a power failure earlier today so I can't check where I was at.
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[14:56:03] <SB-X> I wonder if vim has more features I'd like than elvis.
[14:56:10] <SB-X> Darke: What do you like about vim?
[14:57:50] <Darke> SB-X: Umm... it's a replacement for 'vi', and a rather standard replacement? *grin*
[14:58:43] <SB-X> Are there any improvements over 'vi' that make it special?
[14:59:52] <Darke> Syntax highlighting and internal help are the two I've actually used. There are apparently lots of extra features and commands too.
[15:01:48] <Darke> If you install vim, then run it and type `:help vi_diff`, you'll get a list of most of the differences.
[15:02:09] <SB-X> Oh... elvis has those too but I'm not sure how much syntax highlighting it can do. I've only figured out how to highlight the major fonts, italic, normal, bold etc...
[15:02:18] <SB-X> ah ok
[15:02:21] <SB-X> I have vim :-)
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[15:29:52] <SB-X> were you having problems with ghex Darke?
[15:33:32] <Darke> Not problems, it's just that it's interface is broken in annoying ways. *grin*
[15:35:04] <SB-X> such as?
[15:37:15] <Darke> From the top of my head: The mouse scroll wheel only scrolls the display if you have the mouse pointer over the scroll bar itself. You can't select multiple bytes, for that matter you can't select single bytes. No cut/copy/paste support.
[15:37:58] <SB-X> oh, i see how that is annoying...
[15:38:01] <SB-X> did you find a better one?
[15:38:50] <Darke> Nope. There was a kde hex viewer, but it hadn't been updated since early kde2.0.
[15:39:33] <Darke> The rest are mostly console viewers, as as much as I tend to use X as a means of having a dozen consoles open simulateously, I'd rather a proper 'gui' hex editor. *Grin*
[15:40:10] <SB-X> I was going to mention that elvis has hexedit mode, maybe vim does too.
[15:41:01] <SB-X> Then there is 'xxd' which can make a hexdump and then convert back to binary, but that is several steps back from what you want. :-)
[15:42:44] <Darke> Yup. vim can do 'hex editing', there's also a standalone 'vi like hex editor', and yes 'xxd' doesn't exactly do what I would want. *grin*
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[16:27:51] <Fingolfin> hi
[16:28:16] <Darke> Hi.
[16:28:41] <Colourless> hi
[16:33:51] <EsBee-Eks> hi
[16:34:28] * Darke snorks at http://www.ditherati.net/ I wonder if MS is deliberately trying to annoy everyone that has any interaction with their products what-so-ever. *grin*
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[16:49:56] <Colourless> you know, it really depends on what exactly Microsoft means by that. I mean changing the entire API could fix all the security problems, and break every single application at the same time :-)
[16:52:35] <Fingolfin> well
[16:52:49] <Fingolfin> a computer without any software is pretty safe, I must admit that :-
[16:52:52] <Fingolfin> :-) even
[16:53:38] * Darke snickers.
[17:27:47] * Darke falls asleep. Night all!
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[17:28:10] <Colourless> cya
[17:36:31] * Colourless should go too
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[23:40:15] <Zxcvb> what is exult 0.6.4?
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