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[11:41:39] <Quester> Drake, I have some question about exult too :)
[11:42:04] <Quester> Darke, sorry :)
[11:44:06] <Darke> Hmm?
[11:44:51] <Quester> are you planing make 3d exult? use don't shapes, but 3d models?
[11:46:34] <Darke> Not me, no. As far as everyone else, there's no plans I know of.
[11:47:10] <Quester> what about hw lighting?
[11:48:20] <Darke> No plans as far as I know.
[11:49:03] <Quester> ok, thanks for answers. I must go, by. thanks agane!
[11:49:06] <Darke> I believe Colourless or DrCode would be the best people to ask this, since that's more their area of fiddling.
[11:49:10] <Darke> No problem. Bye!
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[12:17:15] <Colourless> hi
[12:39:02] <wjp> hi
[12:41:11] <Colourless> so the rumours going round are that fallout 3 may not be quite so dead with the interplay CEO commenting on them intending to publish FO3 and it being developed by an external dev... but at the same time interplay seems pretty much completely bankrupt and owes 3 months of rent
[12:51:37] <Darke> Maybe they're in an IP firesale at the moment? Selling off various rights to various gamelines to outside firms? That would somewhat correlate the "We're (almost) dead, Jim" state of the company, with what their CEO is stating.
[12:51:56] <Colourless> yep i'm guessing that too
[12:52:25] <Colourless> i'm guessing third party has said, Hey... we'll finish/develop that for you and give you some cash
[12:53:30] <Darke> *nod* So 3rd party of course has a (relatively) solid fanbase, no doubt along with a get-out-of-jail-free card to sell out to another publisher if Interplay dies before game is ready.
[12:54:08] <Colourless> you'd think so
[12:54:44] <Darke> I wonder if it's a new company that's got most of the ex-fallout team's coders working for them that arranged such a deal? *grin*
[12:55:04] <Colourless> i suspect though the end result might be a somewhat half finished game
[12:56:12] <Colourless> most of the ex Black Isle guys are now at Obsidian, but firstly they wouldn't have the cash to attempt to finish it and secondly the just signed a deal with Lucas Arts and Bioware to develop SW:KOTOR2
[12:56:38] <Colourless> so they pretty much have been ruled out
[12:56:47] <Darke> No doubt. It's more of a question whether the engine was mostly built before things fell over, and it's mostly the content required, or not. If they've got a solid engine to begin with they could pull off something impressive, if they're firefighting bugs with a half built engine, whilst trying to patch in content, they're probably screwed.
[12:59:46] <Colourless> the other fan hope/guess would be Troika which iirc is Tim Cain's company and he was one of the leads on the first 2 games
[13:00:02] <Colourless> reality probably will end up being someone completely different
[13:04:02] <Darke> Which isn't really a bad thing. A unknown team could come out of the woodwork and pull off an impressive game. *grin* Vain hope indeed, but still, hope!
[13:07:50] <Darke> FYI, 'Sacred' is a stragely fun RPG. Very U7BGish in terms of world to search and hunt around, quests and so on, crossed with diablo2's item search&rescue, class based systems, stats and so on. Only problem is it feels too heavy on the D2 influence and too light on a real RPG.
[13:17:55] <Colourless> might have to download the demo at some stage
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[17:11:31] <wjp> Colourless: did you see artaxerxes' mail to the ML?
[17:11:56] <Colourless> can't say i have
[17:11:56] <wjp> how well is caching out the map working?
[17:12:47] <Colourless> last thing i knew jeff had enabled it on all platforms, and the results... and it wasn't as effective as i would have liked
[17:13:13] <Colourless> quite possibly rendered chunk caching actually takes up more memory
[17:14:04] <Colourless> i warned artaxerxes that memory could be an issue
[17:17:14] <Colourless> yeah, it's enabled for all now
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[17:47:14] <wjp> hm, Fallout 3 apparently un-cancelled
[17:47:19] <wjp> http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/04/15/news_6093628.html
[17:50:36] <Colourless> bah, old news for #exult :-)
[17:51:26] <Colourless> approximately 5 hours ago i mentioned it :-)
[17:51:49] <sbx> and I just read it in the logs
[17:51:59] <wjp> hm, 2 minutes after I said hi, even
[17:52:14] <wjp> makes we wonder what I was doing at that point
[17:52:18] <Colourless> :-)
[17:53:15] <wjp> I guess I haven't been in my 'office' much today :-)
[17:54:08] * Colourless gets back to playing fallout 1 (and he swears he's actually going to finish it this time too :-) )
[17:54:17] <wjp> you never finished it? *jaw drops*
[17:54:30] <wjp> ;-)
[17:54:30] <Colourless> nope
[17:55:03] <Colourless> my character sucked so combat was too hard
[17:56:09] <sbx> I never played it
[17:56:30] <wjp> oooh, you should :-)
[17:56:58] <sbx> where can I buy it?
[17:57:10] <sbx> I'll look
[17:57:26] <Colourless> you'll be lucky if you find it for sale
[17:57:54] <Colourless> fallout 1 came out in 1997
[17:58:04] <wjp> they should release Fallout 1 & 2 for free to promote Fallout 3 :-)
[17:58:15] <Colourless> :-)
[17:58:41] <wjp> with sources, preferably :-)
[17:58:51] <Colourless> :-)
[17:59:20] * wjp wonders why he hasn't had dinner yet... it's 8 pm already
[17:59:26] <wjp> time to fix that I guess... bbl :-)
[17:59:30] <Colourless> :-)
[18:31:08] <wjp> there's a forum post about memory issues on zaurus now as well
[18:32:32] <sbx> there's multiple games called Fallout
[18:32:45] <sbx> does it have a another title? what is the publisher?
[18:33:23] <Colourless> there is Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics, Fallout Brotherhood of Steel
[18:33:40] <Colourless> the publisher is Interplay
[18:34:00] <sbx> OK thanks
[18:34:07] <sbx> are the last two good?
[18:34:46] <Colourless> the last 2 dont have much to do with the first 2 :-)
[18:35:09] <Colourless> sure same universe, but that's about where similarities ends.
[18:35:51] <Colourless> I don't even know exactly what sort of a game Fallout Tactics is, and BOS is a console action rpg lite
[18:38:08] <sbx> "Victims don't just perish--they get out in half, melt into a pile of goo, and explode into chunks of flesh. Yuck!!"
[18:39:01] <sbx> "Fall in love, get married, and then pimp your spouse for a little extra chump-change. (Hey, it's a dark and dangerous world out there!)"
[18:39:06] <Colourless> that could probably describe any of the games. The fallouts were violent and the language could be rather.... crude :-)
[18:39:26] <sbx> "Kill smarter, not harder!"
[18:39:28] <sbx> heh ok
[18:39:32] <sbx> is 1 or 2 best?
[18:39:46] <Colourless> don't ask me... i've only finished 2 :-)
[18:41:00] <sbx> I've heard different opinions but don't remember any reasons one was preferred over the other... I'll just get both.
[18:41:59] <sbx> still need to get SS2
[18:42:32] <Colourless> intially the fallout interface may seem a little strange.
[18:43:34] <sbx> how so?
[18:43:43] <Colourless> movement is aligned to a hex grid
[18:44:33] <Colourless> with the way the mouse works the move cursor seems to just jump about
[18:44:56] <sbx> is there keyboard only control or keyboard movement at least?
[18:45:10] <Colourless> mouse only
[18:45:28] <Colourless> you get used to the interface
[18:46:02] <Colourless> the interface in fo2 is tweaked slightly removing some of the annoyances
[18:46:49] <sbx> what kind of battle system is it?
[18:46:57] <Colourless> also party management is FO2 is greatly improved
[18:47:06] <Colourless> it's turn based
[18:47:33] <Colourless> you get a certain amount of action points per turn that lets you perform a certain number of actions
[18:47:56] <Colourless> different weapons require different amounts of action points to attack with (and even different attack types per weapon)
[18:49:15] <sbx> ah k
[18:49:21] <sbx> there are many cities and locations?
[18:49:24] <sbx> with NPCs
[18:49:50] <Colourless> yeah there are a fair amount of towns and npcs
[18:52:31] <sbx> thanks for the information
[18:52:36] <sbx> will buy it today or tomorrow
[18:52:37] <sbx> bbl
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[21:45:16] <wjp> hi Fingolfin
[22:05:54] <Fingolfin> hi
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