#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 16 Apr 2005 (GMT)

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[02:33:32] <sbx> can you make a custom game mode that uses everything possible from BG & SI?
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[07:50:21] <Fl00der> morning
[07:50:34] <Baastuul> Hey, Fl00der. :)
[07:50:37] <Baastuul> How're you doing?
[07:50:46] <Fl00der> fine :)
[07:51:04] <Baastuul> Das ist fantastisch!
[07:51:07] <Fl00der> nice weather, 6+ and sun is shining :)
[07:51:10] <Fl00der> hehe
[07:51:46] <Baastuul> It's been pretty cloudy and breezy here the past few days, but it's been warming up a little bit.
[07:51:57] <Baastuul> I think there is supposed to be some rain coming in within the next few days, though.
[07:52:25] <Fl00der> and going to greece this summer :>
[07:53:35] <Baastuul> :o
[07:53:37] <Baastuul> For how long?
[07:53:41] <Fl00der> 1 week
[07:53:56] <sbx> heya Fl00der
[07:54:23] <Fl00der> hello
[07:54:41] <Baastuul> Ess bee ecks!
[07:54:48] <Baastuul> Fl00der, are you going to Greece with your family for vacation?
[07:55:10] <Fl00der> yea
[07:56:56] <Baastuul> I wish I could read Greek. :(
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[08:06:39] <sbx> Does EazyCheeze go well with Rottingbeef?
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[08:16:52] <Baastuul> Yes
[08:19:56] <sbx> Too bad there isn't any EazyCheeze here right now.
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[08:26:21] <Baastuul> I'm getting really sick of this. :P
[08:26:47] <Baastuul> [2005-04-16][01:23:13] <Baastuul> This site is really bizarre: http://thedecadentwest.blogspot.com/2005/04/dw-vs-five-year-olds-bring-it-on.html
[08:26:47] <Baastuul> [2005-04-16][01:23:46] * Disconnected
[08:28:21] <sbx> hehe... you were probably about to reconnect right?
[08:28:35] <sbx> its only been 30 minutes
[08:29:10] <Baastuul> That was one of those crappy 21 minute long connections :p
[08:36:48] <sbx> how long is it usually?
[08:37:07] <Baastuul> hard to say
[08:37:08] <Baastuul> max is 4 hours
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[09:05:25] <Rottingbeef> Grrruhgkrgjkrh
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[09:16:16] <Tawn> Hi all
[09:18:37] <Baastuul> Hi, Tawn. :)
[09:19:39] <Tawn> Hey Baastuul, good to meet ya
[09:20:27] <Baastuul> Good to meet you too. :)
[09:20:30] <Baastuul> How's it going?
[09:20:59] <Tawn> Not too bad now, t'was my 21st last night so I'm a bit groggy :)
[09:21:36] <Tawn> Had a few B-52's (shots) and the name says everything :)
[09:21:47] <Baastuul> hehehe
[09:21:54] <Baastuul> Happy birthday, then. :D
[09:22:03] <Tawn> Thanks :-)
[09:22:20] <Tawn> How about you? Where do you hail from?
[09:23:06] <Baastuul> Washington.
[09:23:16] <Baastuul> The Spokane area.
[09:23:16] <sbx> hi Tawn
[09:23:18] <Tawn> Ahh cool
[09:23:23] <Baastuul> What about you?
[09:23:26] <Tawn> Hi Sbx
[09:23:43] <Tawn> Ireland, the good ol' west of it
[09:24:14] <Tawn> And for a change, it's not raining :)
[09:25:35] <Tawn> Maybe ye could help me with something
[09:25:54] <Tawn> I'm trying to figure out how to get an NPC to walk/run somewhere in BG
[09:26:30] <Baastuul> Humm
[09:26:38] <Tawn> I've been told about path_run_usecode in SI, but I also heard it only works for Avatar in BG
[09:26:39] <Baastuul> I have no idea on that, I don't actually work or program on Exult. :)
[09:26:41] <Baastuul> Although sbx might know!
[09:26:51] <Tawn> Okies :)
[09:27:35] <Tawn> A U7 fan then?
[09:27:47] <Baastuul> Yep
[09:27:49] <Baastuul> Since like 1995 or so
[09:27:59] <Tawn> Ok, this is to judge what kind of person you are
[09:28:13] <Tawn> Did you rob the Britan mint? :)
[09:28:17] <sbx> know what?
[09:28:24] <sbx> i don't know about intrinsics
[09:28:26] <Baastuul> Tons of times!
[09:28:36] <Tawn> Ok thanks Sbx
[09:28:40] <Tawn> Ok quest 2
[09:28:45] <Baastuul> Well, I've actually stopped robbing the Britain mint in recent years.
[09:28:48] <Baastuul> I've grown SOFT.
[09:29:15] <Tawn> Did you kill the girl, get her key and have LB ress her, or did you lfind the key yourself? ;)
[09:30:49] <Tawn> Personally, I didn't even know another key existed :-)
[09:30:52] <Baastuul> Well, there's that key in Cynthia's house that unlocks the back door of the mint, but that only gets you in one or two rooms... I think the only way to get the key to the other parts of the mint is to kill her, take the key, and then have LB rez her (so yes, I did that).
[09:30:57] <Baastuul> I don't think there was another key. ;)
[09:31:10] <sbx> I didn't know about another keg.
[09:31:20] <sbx> key*
[09:31:20] <Tawn> I meant Cynthia's
[09:31:24] <Baastuul> What city in Ireland are you from, Tawn? :)
[09:31:31] <Tawn> Galway
[09:31:31] <sbx> Tawn: Did you try setting up path eggs?
[09:31:48] <Baastuul> cool
[09:32:04] <Tawn> That would be ok for part of it but I want a regular NPC to go somewhere
[09:32:10] <Tawn> One who's already on a schedule
[09:32:53] <Tawn> So Bastuul, are you a baker or a theif? :)
[09:33:17] <Baastuul> More of a baker :)
[09:33:21] <Tawn> LoL
[09:33:27] <Tawn> BrB
[09:33:34] <Baastuul> When I was a little kid I could sit down for hours and bake bread, although more recently I haven't found as much enjoyment with it. :p
[09:33:44] <sbx> I was going to ask how they make Iolo walk up to you at the start, but now that I think about it the Avatar walks up to him. And the mayor probably starts with some kind of follow Avatar activity.
[09:35:42] <Tawn> Ahh, I didn't think of that (though I thought about the problem itself)
[09:38:15] <sbx> Anyway, the developers said they're willing to enable SI intrinsics in BG.
[09:38:31] <Tawn> I know, that's great
[09:38:44] <Tawn> I just thought of another way
[09:39:03] <Tawn> Get the NPC to check his location against the target
[09:39:16] <Tawn> And then take steps toward it
[09:39:25] <Tawn> I can just create a function for it
[09:39:36] <Tawn> Pathfinding might be a problem
[09:39:41] <Tawn> But it's a start :)
[09:40:27] <sbx> There might already be functions in SI you can copy. (then again maybe not, since they had the intrinsic for it)
[09:41:05] <Tawn> I'll see what I can do with my function
[09:41:21] <Tawn> I can set the speed too, by changing how many steps they take
[09:41:35] <Tawn> Aww damn
[09:42:03] <Tawn> How do I create a loop in usecode?
[09:42:32] <Baastuul> Carefully.
[09:42:38] <Tawn> I know it automatically looks but the NPC would be stopping and starting
[09:42:48] <Tawn> *loops even :)
[09:43:21] <sbx> all loops have to be made carefully :)
[09:43:34] <Tawn> Hehe
[09:43:42] <Tawn> Is there a way in Usecode?
[09:43:54] <Tawn> I've never seen one :(
[09:44:02] <sbx> I don't know how to use UCC. There is an instruction specifically for it though, so yeah it's possible.
[09:44:27] <Tawn> Cool :)
[09:46:40] <sbx> Did you get my email?
[09:47:46] <servus> Moo
[09:48:48] * sbx tips servus over.
[09:48:57] <servus> Mahroooo *goes to sleep on the grass*
[09:52:19] <servus> Everyone wants to tip the cow over :P
[09:52:26] <Tawn> Just got it now Sb-x
[09:52:52] <Tawn> Oh man that would be excellent
[09:53:42] <Tawn> Just wondering is "The definitive source of Studio & Usecode Guides" a bit much?
[09:53:51] <Tawn> It just sounded cool at the time :-)
[09:54:55] <Tawn> Yeah those documents would be great Sb-x, that's a lot of work and a lot of guessing out of the way
[09:58:57] <sbx> sorry I was brushing my teeth
[09:59:11] <sbx> alright
[09:59:33] <sbx> the name is ok
[10:01:16] <Tawn> Ok :)
[10:01:50] <Tawn> When your done with SI, will you start with BG ;)
[10:01:53] <sbx> Before Wizardy somebody else created and publicized a wiki too.
[10:02:01] <Tawn> Did they?
[10:02:13] <Tawn> Is it still up?
[10:02:39] <sbx> I'll try to make a BG list too, if somebody else doesn't. I've got a few listed. (and the Exult team already had a few as examples)
[10:02:57] <sbx> I don't know if that other wiki is around (it was general Ultima7) but it wasn't used either.
[10:03:43] <Tawn> Ah I see
[10:05:36] <Tawn> Well I'm going keep pushing the ES Guides til it gets somewhere :)
[10:07:01] <sbx> It looks good. Can other people add to it freely?
[10:07:10] <Tawn> Yeah, once they register
[10:08:13] <Tawn> I give everyone Editor privileges too, so they can update other's documents too
[10:08:23] <Tawn> Like Wiki, but I find it more organised
[10:09:16] <sbx> Baastuul knows all about Wikipedia.
[10:09:44] <Baastuul>
[10:10:01] <Baastuul> Actually, I just like reading Wikipedia. I haven't edited anything to date yet, although I have found many things that could have been changed...
[10:10:35] <Baastuul> Mainly just grammatical and spelling errors.
[10:10:37] <Baastuul> Very glaring grammatical and spelling errors.
[10:11:02] <sbx> Factual?
[10:11:04] <Tawn> :)
[10:11:19] <Baastuul> Well, I'm too lazy to really cross reference the facts.
[10:11:34] <Baastuul> But some articles are just incredibly sloppy and ugly as far as grammar, syntax, and spelling goes.
[10:11:45] <Tawn> Yeah, there is that too
[10:11:48] <Baastuul> Sometimes it's like proofreading a stupid drooling halfwit moron's essay.
[10:11:54] <Tawn> Not everyone cares :)
[10:12:14] <Tawn> LoL
[10:12:16] <Baastuul> Actually, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but you get what I mean. :)
[10:12:22] <sbx> You found my article!
[10:12:26] <Tawn> LoL
[10:12:49] <sbx> I know, it was a very big and unfair exaggeration.
[10:12:57] <Tawn> Hehe
[10:13:06] <Tawn> Now you've gone and hurt his feelings...
[10:13:07] * Baastuul offers sbx a bowl of mung beans and a meditation mat.
[10:13:13] <Baastuul> Hey, man. Just let it all out.
[10:13:16] <Baastuul> And...
[10:13:18] <Baastuul> Smoke this...
[10:13:29] * Baastuul offers a stick of smoked salmon.
[10:13:36] <Baastuul> It'll open your mind to new worlds.
[10:13:43] <Tawn> Maybe Sb-x you think it was your article because you have issues of self-worth :-D
[10:13:43] <Baastuul> Okay, I'll shut the hell up already and go to sleep. :p
[10:13:44] <Baastuul> Good night!
[10:14:01] <Baastuul> It are be the 3:13 AM HEAR.
[10:14:07] <sbx> maybe
[10:14:19] * sbx eats the salmon.
[10:14:19] <Tawn> Wow
[10:14:31] <sbx> all hail
[10:14:34] <Tawn> It's 11:14 here :)
[10:14:40] <sbx> bai
[10:14:42] <Tawn> How about you Sb?
[10:14:56] <sbx> 5:10AM
[10:14:58] <Tawn> Night Baastuul, tke care
[10:15:01] <Tawn> Wooo
[10:15:04] <sbx> because my clock is behind 5 minutes
[10:15:15] <Tawn> LoL
[10:15:25] <Tawn> Your own time zone :)
[10:15:41] * servus tips sbx over
[10:16:18] * sbx engages his supreme human balancing reflexes and stays upright.
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[10:16:28] <Baastuul> FINNLANDER!
[10:16:28] <sbx> beat that :p
[10:16:30] * Baastuul points.
[10:16:33] <Baastuul> Wait, I'm supposed to be sleeping! :O
[10:16:36] <Tawn> He Fl00der
[10:16:37] * Baastuul trundles away now.
[10:16:38] <sbx> heya Fl00der
[10:16:42] <Fl00der> hello
[10:16:55] <Fl00der> baastuul: why aren't you sleeping?
[10:17:01] <Tawn> These crazy peeps are up late
[10:17:01] <Baastuul> I don't know
[10:17:05] <Baastuul> 3:17 AM here now
[10:17:07] <Fl00der> :)
[10:17:11] <Fl00der> 13:17 here
[10:17:16] <Baastuul> Bah! :p
[10:17:19] <Baastuul> ok, i'm out
[10:17:38] * servus tips sbx over again
[10:18:05] <Tawn> I win the time war, I'm GMT (the real time) :P
[10:18:19] <Fl00der> :D
[10:18:39] <Tawn> Muwahahaha :)
[10:18:39] <Fl00der> GMT+2 here
[10:19:01] * sbx falls over.
[10:19:10] <sbx> servus: that's cruel
[10:19:17] <sbx> you're supposed to be sleeping too
[10:20:10] <servus> :P
[10:20:14] <servus> Why? I finished my project.
[10:20:19] <Tawn> You know those jokes that are really lame but you find funny but are ashamed to tell anyone cause it's that bad?
[10:20:37] * sbx sits up.
[10:20:48] <Tawn> What project is that servus?
[10:20:56] <servus> Just some emergy work project
[10:21:08] <servus> I wrote 15,000 lines in 2 days. :P
[10:21:09] <Fl00der> how's exult3D project goes? :P
[10:21:10] <Tawn> Ahh ok
[10:21:22] <Tawn> Oh your Sam serv?
[10:21:23] <Fl00der> servus: wow, that's a lot of lines :)
[10:21:26] <servus> Hopefully I'll start working on it again :P
[10:21:35] <servus> I am Sam. Do I know you?
[10:21:45] <Tawn> No no, I'm new here
[10:21:50] <Tawn> I just read your posts
[10:21:55] <Tawn> That's great work
[10:21:56] <servus> Ah, right, hello.
[10:22:03] <servus> Thanks. No one wants to help though :)
[10:22:08] <Tawn> LoL
[10:22:38] <Tawn> That's a lot of work for one man
[10:23:07] <Tawn> I don't code or create 3D models, but if I did I wouldn't help anyway ;-)
[10:23:30] <Tawn> Too much to do already :)
[10:24:06] <servus> Yeah I do too much work as it is :)
[10:24:55] <sbx> And you're still going to find time for Exult3D! Amazing.
[10:25:11] <Tawn> If you'd like, I can create a section of the Exult Studio Guides for the Exult3D
[10:25:23] <Tawn> You can use the File Repository for downloads too
[10:25:34] <Tawn> Not much, but the best I can do right now :)
[10:27:22] <servus> The Exult Wiki? I already added to that
[10:27:35] <servus> Not much need for a Wiki though if I'm the only one that (has to?) deal with it
[10:27:57] <Tawn> Well I meant for screenshots and such
[10:28:12] <Tawn> But your right, it's not necessary :)
[10:28:44] <sbx> www.sammatthews.com
[10:29:07] <sbx> that site still work?
[10:29:11] <Tawn> LoL, ok. Point taken :)
[10:29:30] <Tawn> That's the most original site I've ever seen
[10:29:37] <servus> Yeah but there's nothing there. What about it?
[10:29:47] <Tawn> It's just "Hi."
[10:29:52] <Tawn> That's classic :)
[10:29:58] <sbx> I guess it's still up then. couldn't check it now
[10:30:11] <sbx> what's the url to your files and screenshots?
[10:33:46] <servus> Screenshots are gone
[10:34:20] <Fl00der> :(
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[10:36:04] <sbx> ?
[10:36:37] <servus> Hard drive: gone.
[10:37:13] <Tawn> Ohh
[10:37:27] <Tawn> Did you loose much? :(
[10:37:44] <sbx> I thought you got all your data back!
[10:38:48] <servus> No.
[10:38:53] <servus> STILL waiting on the eBay part.
[10:39:02] <servus> I filed a claim for my money back. Gonna have to try to buy it from someone else.
[10:39:21] <Tawn> Ack, I hate when that happens
[10:39:45] <servus> I need to find a good idea for a site.
[10:40:02] <servus> I mean, a visual layout
[10:40:44] <sbx> www.dannyatherton.com
[10:40:58] <servus> By find I meant 'think up'.
[10:41:13] <Tawn> LoL :D
[10:43:01] <sbx> :)
[10:43:36] <servus> I have a neat idea for a white site but white hurts my eyes
[10:45:10] <sbx> Colourless says black is too 90's.
[10:47:22] <Tawn> I'd agree what white is overused though :)
[10:47:50] <servus> I like Black.
[10:47:58] <servus> Don't you like my site? I think it's very clean :P
[10:48:01] <servus> OK this is looking good.
[10:48:06] <servus> Let's see what you think... :)
[10:48:11] <Tawn> I do like it :)
[10:50:00] <servus> :P
[10:50:06] <servus> My old one was similar
[10:50:47] <servus> Hmmm wish I had a calligraphy pen
[10:51:13] * sbx hands servus a calligraphy pen.
[10:51:40] * Tawn hands server a spare ink cartridge
[10:51:56] <Tawn> Oops, servus even :)
[10:52:30] <servus> Strange, all of you :P
[10:52:36] <Tawn> :D
[10:53:13] <Tawn> Well I'm hungover, so I have an excuse :)
[10:53:23] <Tawn> I'm not in a right state of mind :P
[10:54:00] <Tawn> And Sb-x is sleep deprived, so he isn't either :P
[10:54:17] <servus> Yessss this is looking good :>
[10:57:14] <Tawn> It's a pain having 3000 down and only 256 up :(
[10:57:57] <sbx> ...
[10:58:53] <Tawn> I mean I have all that download capacity but am stunted by the upload
[10:59:17] <Tawn> And when you have a few gamers and net users, it's just sucked up
[10:59:23] <servus> I have a good up
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[11:00:55] <Tawn> Strange, Sourceforge is up but I can't get on the Exult page
[11:01:01] <Tawn> It is hosted seperately?
[11:01:13] <sbx> yeah im lucky here with my even 4K/4K dial up connection
[11:01:39] <servus> projects.SF is dead
[11:01:51] <Tawn> Ahh ok
[11:01:56] <Tawn> Sorry about that sbx
[11:02:46] <Tawn> I only have this because of work
[11:02:58] <Tawn> At home i've 16mbpc :)
[11:03:06] <Tawn> mbps even
[11:03:30] <Tawn> We can't get broadband outside of town
[11:03:36] <Tawn> Not for another year anyway
[11:06:00] <sbx> how did you get it at home?
[11:06:19] <Tawn> No, just dialup at home
[11:06:38] <Tawn> And the line's bad so it's only 16kbps
[11:06:40] <sbx> oh
[11:06:49] <sbx> 16kbps?
[11:06:54] <Tawn> And it's a P1 166mhz
[11:07:02] <Tawn> or 16mbps
[11:07:13] <sbx> i thought my line was bad :)
[11:07:31] <Tawn> With 64 mb ram :)
[11:07:35] <sbx> it used to only go up to 24kbps
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[11:07:58] <sbx> my other computer is like that, but 200MHz and 128MB
[11:08:06] <sbx> hi Fingolfin
[11:09:00] <Tawn> Hello Fingolfin
[11:09:41] <servus> Hmm
[11:09:49] <Tawn> Are you from finland Fingolfin? (Just wondering :-)
[11:09:58] <servus> I got my calligraphy pen and made a handwritten "SamMatthews.com", but I don't think it works well with the site.
[11:10:03] <servus> New idea.
[11:10:42] * Tawn can also hear servus thinking
[11:10:47] <Tawn> Feck it
[11:10:52] <Tawn> *almost :)
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[11:11:11] <Tawn> Hi Khelz
[11:12:00] <servus> Ah, this one might work.. .*grin*
[11:14:29] <Khelz> hey Tawn
[11:14:46] <Fingolfin> Tawn: o and I don't play gold
[11:14:54] <Fingolfin> s/gold/golf/
[11:15:11] <Tawn> LoL, din't think so :D
[11:16:00] <sbx> bbl
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[11:16:15] <servus> mmm, sexy.
[11:18:44] <servus> Ok, top half is done :P
[11:19:18] <servus> http://sammatthews.com/images/site01.png -- initial thoughts?
[11:19:56] <Tawn> Is that actual size?
[11:20:02] <servus> Just a mockup
[11:20:07] <servus> It'll flow in the HTML version of course
[11:20:16] <Tawn> The left bar (if that's what it is) is very big
[11:20:27] <Tawn> But other than thgat it's very good
[11:20:28] <servus> It's not a bar. It's just white psace.
[11:20:37] <Tawn> Ahh ok
[11:21:32] <Tawn> Looks cool then
[11:22:19] <Tawn> The hand drawn name is vey good
[11:23:01] <Tawn> Nice touch
[11:23:23] <servus> We'll see how it actually turns out, thanks...
[11:23:24] <Tawn> A lot of sites go for a really rigid "modern" look
[11:23:42] <Tawn> But they lack character :)
[11:27:40] <Fl00der> nice
[11:41:05] <Tawn> Anyone here know much about Usecode?
[11:42:44] <wjp> depends on what you want to know :-)
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[11:46:44] <Tawn> Oh hey wjp
[11:46:53] <Tawn> Didn't see you there :)
[11:47:00] <Tawn> How do I make a loop?
[11:47:13] <Tawn> I'm going to try my hand at a pathfinding function
[11:47:21] <Colourless> hi
[11:47:28] <Tawn> But I need a loop if I'm going to do it
[11:47:35] <Tawn> Hi Colourless :)
[11:50:29] <Tawn> I have some neat ideas for it, like teleporting them if they get stuck or are too far away
[11:50:47] <Tawn> But I won't teleport them directly in, because that spoils the effect
[11:51:06] <Tawn> So I'll offset it and get them to walk from there
[11:51:22] <Tawn> Don't know how well it'll work, but I'll give it a go
[11:52:03] <wjp> why duplicate code already in exult?
[11:52:56] <Tawn> Is there already one?
[11:53:05] <Tawn> I've asked a few people and nobody knew :)
[11:54:44] <servus> That's how Ultima 7 did it..
[11:54:52] <servus> If your party members got lost, they'd just show up at the edge of the screen
[11:55:21] <Tawn> Oh yeah I know, but that's a follow avatar setup
[11:55:50] <Tawn> Is there something similar but which sends an NPC to a set location?
[11:56:13] <Colourless> exult does have the functionality
[11:56:31] <Colourless> used in the schedules
[11:56:46] <Colourless> not sure if you can access it in usecode.
[11:57:05] <Tawn> Yeah but I need NPCs to go to locations when triggered
[11:57:07] <Colourless> the approach_avatar intrinsic does the opposite. Puts NPC at the edge of the screen and they walk towards you
[11:57:23] <Colourless> you need one that walks away from you and then jumps
[11:57:47] <Tawn> I need one that instead of going to the Avatar, go's to a set location
[11:58:10] <Tawn> Before I start on my game, I want to try a court scene
[11:58:17] <Tawn> See if my skills are up to it
[11:58:25] <Tawn> I need NPCs to enter and exit
[11:58:32] <Tawn> Take different positions etc
[11:59:01] <wjp> and si_path_run_usecode doesn't work properly?
[11:59:29] <Tawn> I am set on using BG
[11:59:38] <Tawn> It has more of the charactistics I want
[11:59:49] <Tawn> characteristics even
[12:00:30] <wjp> enabling si_path_run_usecode in BG isn't a particularly big problem
[12:00:48] <Tawn> Yeah, DrCode said that too :)
[12:01:09] <Tawn> Will people need SI then to play?
[12:01:19] <Colourless> no
[12:01:26] <Colourless> it will 'just work'
[12:01:28] <Tawn> Oh Good :)
[12:01:38] <Tawn> That'd be excellent
[12:01:40] <Colourless> will only work with new versions of exult though of course
[12:01:47] <Tawn> Yeah
[12:02:11] <Tawn> Aside from that, how do I create a loop?
[12:03:04] <wjp> what kind of loop?
[12:03:34] <Tawn> Any really :)
[12:03:46] <Tawn> I just need a loop :)
[12:04:47] <wjp> I think ucc has a while loop that's just like in C
[12:04:57] <wjp> and there's a 'for' loop that loops over elements in an array
[12:05:34] <Tawn> Ahh excellent!
[12:05:58] <Tawn> I want to document as well you see
[12:06:06] <Tawn> Once I get the court scene done
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[12:17:55] <Tawn> How's the site coming Sam?
[12:22:27] * sbx yawns.
[12:25:51] <smatthews> Fighting with CSS. :P http://sammatthews.com/index.php
[12:59:31] <smatthews> http://sammatthews.com/images/site02.png ?
[13:01:52] <sbx> ?
[13:02:46] <smatthews> Different front-page style?
[13:03:05] <smatthews> Dunno. I'm no good at design at all.
[13:03:14] <Tawn> Just checking it now
[13:03:58] <Tawn> Strange... won't load
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[13:08:38] <sbx> same here
[13:08:42] <smatthews> What the hell
[13:08:46] <smatthews> My IP just changed a LOT
[13:09:11] <smatthews>
[13:09:39] <sbx> Your ISP would probably say it's due to excessive net usage.
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[13:10:18] <smatthews> Ehh
[13:10:22] <smatthews> This is Verizon, not Charter.
[13:11:47] <smatthews> OK, So, Sleep. Night.
[13:11:48] <Tawn> I like that
[13:11:56] <smatthews> Tahnks:)
[13:11:57] <Tawn> It has more "form" :)
[13:11:59] <smatthews> Ok fine I'll make one more :P
[13:13:21] <sbx> I don't like it but it's well done.
[13:13:52] <smatthews> What don't you like about it?
[13:14:23] <sbx> not my style
[13:15:12] <smatthews> Why not?
[13:15:15] <smatthews> Any suggestions?
[13:16:27] <sbx> wouldn't have the menu sticking out so far, and it would have more smaller text items in a different font
[13:16:43] <sbx> or maybe just more solid text on the menu
[13:17:08] <Tawn> In my opinion, the way you have it is more personal
[13:17:32] <Tawn> It'd look better if you could anti-alise the text though
[13:17:33] <sbx> yes mine would look slightly less personal
[13:17:44] <smatthews> It's kind of a splash screen
[13:17:58] <smatthews> Once you get into the site it goes into another design better suited for data
[13:18:02] <sbx> it looks like a flash site :)
[13:18:08] <smatthews> Is that good or bad? :P
[13:18:13] <Tawn> Have you anything to smooth the text Sam?
[13:18:14] <smatthews> Yeah I'd fix up the text.
[13:18:23] <sbx> ah
[13:18:50] <sbx> I don't like flash sites typically.
[13:18:54] <Tawn> I like the way it's written, but the jaggedness takes away from it
[13:19:03] <sbx> but it looks nice and clean
[13:19:32] <sbx> after you click on a menu item the middle bar slides to the top of the page in a whooshing sound effect, and a tiny block of text appears at the lower left, with a picture on the lower right
[13:19:51] <Tawn> I'd say if you did it in vector instead of pixel it's look better
[13:20:07] <smatthews> Well I rasterized it, and I don't do Flash.
[13:20:07] <Tawn> it'd
[13:20:41] <Tawn> It looks good, just suggesting
[13:20:42] <smatthews>
[13:20:53] <smatthews> For like a blog thingy or something, though I detest writing blogs.
[13:21:11] <Tawn> Hehe
[13:21:28] <smatthews> Errr try that again.
[13:21:53] <Tawn> Ahh, I was wondering
[13:21:59] <Tawn> Why it was the same
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[13:24:33] <Tawn> On the phone, BrB
[13:24:56] <sbx> I detest reading them.
[13:28:51] <smatthews> :P
[13:29:51] <sbx> yeah that looks great
[13:30:08] <sbx> strangely IE wouldnt go to the background, I had to minimize or exit it
[13:33:46] <smatthews> Hmm wonder if I should stick with shadows coming off of all edges
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[13:42:42] <sbx> going now, cya
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[13:43:29] <smatthews> http://sammatthews.com/index.php Looks fine in Firefox, at least.
[13:43:38] <smatthews> Night!
[13:46:20] <Tawn> Just back now :)
[13:46:40] <Tawn> The header (sammatthews.com) is missing
[13:46:47] <Tawn> Rest looks good though
[13:46:49] <Tawn> Night
[13:47:09] <Tawn> Man I love Mambo :)
[13:47:28] <Tawn> Just recreated the whole site in 3 hours
[13:47:38] <Tawn> It's so user friendly
[13:55:20] <Tawn> Have to go
[13:55:22] <Tawn> Bye all
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[16:23:43] <Rottingbeef> Good morning!
[16:23:44] <Rottingbeef> brb
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[19:27:25] <rcl_> hey i'm playing SI and I think I'm stuck due to exult but i'm not sure, i'm on the island where i'm supposed to throw the body in the hopper..
[19:29:55] <wjp> yes?
[19:34:22] <rcl_> well i've put in all the body parts and it seems like nothing happens
[19:34:37] <rcl_> i've never beaten this game before so maybe this is my fault
[19:34:49] <rcl_> but all the walkthroughs make it sound really simple and I am pretty sure i found all the parts to put in
[19:34:51] <wjp> did you save before starting to put things in?
[19:34:59] <rcl_> long before :(
[19:35:06] <rcl_> i guess i'd better go back to that and then see
[19:35:28] <wjp> did the machine respond when you put in each body part?
[19:35:45] <wjp> if it didn't then you accidentally put the body part behind the machine instead of in it
[19:35:57] <rcl_> hmmm i maybe did that then
[19:36:04] <rcl_> i put them all in while a gump was up (pause enabled)
[19:36:05] <wjp> (putting stuff behind it is unfortunately easier than it should be)
[19:36:20] <rcl_> yes that's exactly what i did haha
[19:36:22] <rcl_> thank you:(
[19:41:55] <rcl_> hrm after i get all the pieces in, if i talk to the mad mage and ask to create life it should happen right away right?
[19:42:36] <Colourless> it should do it automatically after you put all the bits in
[19:43:13] <rcl_> is there any way to trigger this to happen or to spawn more parts in using exult? i browsed the shapes and couldn't find the body parts
[19:46:47] <Colourless> they should be there
[19:48:37] <rcl_> yeah i have ripped the entire house ilterally apart with hack mode and all i found were wiggling parts
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[19:56:11] <rcl_> i'll just reload and try again
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[20:05:56] <Curiousis-2> Willy question, I know how to get wud.exe to dissassemble a usecode file for me. Just for the life of me I can't remember how to get it to save the result...
[20:06:03] <Curiousis-2> A silly question even...
[20:06:21] <rcl_> ah worked fine this time, thanks guys
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[20:32:35] <wjp> Curiousis-2: pipe the result into a file?
[20:32:42] <wjp> wud blah blah blah > somefile
[20:32:55] <wjp> just like you'd save the output of any program
[20:42:47] <Curiousis-2> You say that... but I'm an idiot...
[20:43:33] <Curiousis-2> O.K. I had to use ">". How I could have known that I have no idea...
[20:45:25] <Curiousis-2> But thanks...
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