#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 16 Jul 2006 (GMT)

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[09:14:08] <Swampthing1> Hello?
[09:14:19] <Swampthing1> anyone here>
[09:15:34] <SB-X> hi
[09:16:55] <Swampthing1> He
[09:17:01] <Swampthing1> Ultima exult channel. right?
[09:17:26] <SB-X> I just idle here.
[09:17:46] <Swampthing1> k
[09:17:59] <Swampthing1> SO I take it you cannot help me then
[09:18:05] <SB-X> i might
[09:18:11] <SB-X> be able to
[09:18:23] <SB-X> ive played with exult
[09:18:50] <Swampthing1> Well, you know Serpent Isle?
[09:19:13] <SB-X> yes
[09:19:19] <SB-X> vaguely recall it
[09:19:44] <Swampthing1> I wanna train at the monitor arean, but the pikeman gaurding the door has dissapeared, I want some help with the cheat menu to get him back
[09:20:33] <SB-X> that's a common bug
[09:20:37] <SB-X> as far as I know there is no way to get him back
[09:21:01] <Swampthing1> So I need to restart then?
[09:23:44] <servus> Can't you find him in the Death Room?
[09:23:58] <Swampthing1> where is the death room?
[09:24:41] <SB-X> there is no death room in exult!
[09:24:47] <servus> There isn't?
[09:25:02] <SB-X> yeah, you'll have to restart from your last save when the pikeman was there
[09:25:17] <servus> I mean, like, couldn't you teleport to the death room, put the pikeman into your backpack, plop him on the seat he sits at, and talk to him real fast?
[09:25:36] <SB-X> if he was there
[09:25:36] <Swampthing1> Yeah, but whenever I get past a certain point, there goes the pikeman!
[09:25:44] <Swampthing1> Where is the deathroom!
[09:25:54] <servus> Northwest tip of the map I think
[09:26:27] <servus> If you cheat to destroy the inaccessible chests underneath his desk, the pikeman mumbles something about losing his keys and that you can't train.
[09:26:44] <SB-X> read the FAQ
[09:27:06] <Swampthing1> Have no cheated!
[09:27:35] <servus> Cheating on the original serpent isle made the game unbeatable for me... Something about rotten eggs
[09:28:49] <Swampthing1> Well, he aint in the deathroom
[09:28:54] <SB-X> of course not
[09:29:13] <SB-X> deleted npcs don't go to the death room in exult
[09:30:26] <Swampthing1> Lol, found the answer in the FAQ. I am SO stupid
[09:31:26] <SB-X> Indeed.
[09:31:38] <SB-X> Put it on the table!
[09:31:43] <Swampthing1> Still, exult does rock
[09:31:49] <SB-X> i agree
[09:32:37] <Swampthing1> Kinda like an rpg version of GTA
[09:32:42] <SB-X> lol
[09:33:03] <SB-X> you mean GTA is like a non-rpg version of Ultima 7
[09:33:13] <SB-X> im playing GTA3 now
[09:33:14] <Kazin> i don't get it
[09:33:30] <Kazin> ok i kinda do
[09:33:42] <Kazin> sandbox games
[09:33:59] <SB-X> yeah i figured that was what he meant, but u7 came first
[09:34:07] <Swampthing1> Well, in most rpgs, the focus is is the charatcer leveling system, not on the world. In Ultima 7, the focus is on the world itself, the character levelling is secondary
[09:34:14] <Swampthing1> though the character itself is nt
[09:34:27] <Kazin> no way gta came first
[09:35:06] <Swampthing1> Nope, ultima 7 was before GTA
[09:35:10] <SB-X> is that sarcasm? :p
[09:35:41] <SB-X> i just meant u7 can't be like an rpg version of GTA, it'd be the other way around then
[09:35:57] <SB-X> since u7 was made before GTA
[09:36:04] <Swampthing1> Gotchya
[09:36:15] <Kazin> i'm pretty sure ff7 was the first RPG
[09:36:22] <Kazin> and GTA came out before FF7
[09:36:24] <Swampthing1> Playing U7 has made me realise how modern rpgs are lacking, though
[09:36:53] <SB-X> I'm looking forward to Gothic 3.
[09:37:28] <Swampthing1> Me too, Gothic came close, but the battle system was too twitch-based
[09:38:36] <SB-X> If the previous two games are any indication, it will be close in environment immersion too. But that's true it's more action-oriented combat.
[09:38:57] <Swampthing1> I lost those reflexes when I was 15
[09:39:24] <servus> You can't bake bread in GTA.
[09:40:26] <SB-X> No, but you can torch a bakery.
[09:40:47] <Swampthing1> So thats close
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