#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 16 Oct 2002 (GMT)

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[00:37:44] <Curiousis> hello.
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[07:22:34] <wjp> hi
[07:24:17] * Darke bows. Greetings, oh wize one.
[07:24:33] <wjp> eh?
[07:25:15] <Darke> Nothing. Just feeling exceptionally surreal at the moment, that's all. *grin*
[07:27:15] * Darke denies he confuses people on purpose, it's completely accidental. Well... most of the time anyway.
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[08:46:19] * Darke makes a mental note that it's far too easy to kill X with wine. *grin*
[10:02:18] <wjp> yes, I've noticed that several times :-)
[10:51:53] <Darke> Admittely, Diablo2, in a window using DirectDraw works rather well on an unimpressive Duron800. *grin*
[11:14:54] <wjp> impressive :-)
[11:15:16] <wjp> I mainly use wine for the ms word viewer, currently
[11:16:38] <wjp> hm, gtg
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[11:59:04] <Fingolfin> yo
[12:05:40] <Darke> Hi.
[13:11:04] * Darke yawns and wanders off to sleep. Night!
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[13:38:49] <Fingolfin> Kirben: you around
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[13:40:47] <Kirben> yes
[13:42:13] <Fingolfin> Kirben: regarding xu4
[13:42:59] <Kirben> Does latest xu4 work any better on mac ?
[13:43:01] <Fingolfin> yes it works on OS X, after a) making a change to the Makefile (adding two libs), and b) running it with the -q option. For some reasons it will otherwise deepfreeze inside teh native midi driver code of SDL_mixer over here
[13:43:13] <Fingolfin> (the native Midi driver being code I wrote ages ago...)
[13:43:42] <Fingolfin> I made a patch for the Makefile that adds prefix & DESTDIR variables to it. That makes it much easier for anybody who would want to package it
[13:44:17] <Fingolfin> if interestes is there, I could also make a Makefile.macosx which instead of the install target would "bundle" the xu4 app into a MacOS X bundle, which users then could install anywhere (e.g. into their Applications folder)
[13:44:30] <Fingolfin> that bundle could even contain the ultima4 data files
[13:50:03] <Kirben> Either should be fine, ultima 4 files are always keep separate though.
[13:50:50] <Kirben> Can dcc any patches and I'm sure author would give you cvs access if you want.
[14:00:15] <Fingolfin> can I also use the patch tracker SF provides for XU4?
[14:00:31] <Fingolfin> I do not have this in a clean state, and I'd also like to research the MIDI freeze first
[14:00:40] <Fingolfin> I am not sure if music ever worked here... hm
[14:01:19] <Fingolfin> hm, the updated U4 graphics pack.. it only updates the in-game graphics? I somehow thought it'd also update e.g. the gypsy
[14:01:25] <Kirben> yes, patch tracker would be even better
[14:01:30] <Fingolfin> is my memory wrong, or is that simply not yet implemented?
[14:02:07] <Kirben> yes only in game gfx, I was surprised gypsy was unchanged too.
[14:04:17] <Fingolfin> ok
[14:04:30] <Fingolfin> the freeze occurs because of a deadlock... is xu4 using threads?
[14:06:30] <Fingolfin> hm, I probably should see if the test program as part of SDL_mixer works
[14:06:35] <Fingolfin> maybe not Xu4 is at fault
[14:06:58] <Kirben> I don't know if threads are been thread or not.
[14:07:08] <Kirben> used or not I mean
[14:07:30] <Fingolfin> I don't see any thread usage, I don't think so
[14:16:57] <Fingolfin> ok, playmus from SDL_mixer has the same problem,hm
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[14:19:32] <Curiousis> anybody home?
[14:19:55] <Curiousis> ?seen exultbot
[14:19:55] <exultbot> That's me!
[14:20:13] * Fingolfin plays dead
[14:20:13] <Curiousis> hello exultbot
[14:20:39] <Curiousis> Would you be able to answer an Exult Studio question?
[14:22:47] <Curiousis> Is there any purpose to the path egg other then to direct a teleport egg to it? What does the button egg do?
[14:27:37] * Fingolfin has nothing to do with ES at all
[14:28:52] <Curiousis> allright. Thanks for your time.
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[15:59:02] <wjp> hi
[15:59:18] <Fingolfin> hi
[16:36:25] <wjp> dinner, bbl
[16:57:26] <wjp> back
[16:59:36] <wjp> Curiousis: path egg: yes, I'm pretty sure that's only for teleport destinations
[17:05:24] <wjp> Curiousis: button egg: this one triggers other eggs in the vicinity
[17:05:43] <wjp> (the 'external' type ones)
[17:45:21] * Fingolfin is getting closer to the deep freez in SDL_mixer + xu4
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[17:48:14] <wjp> hm, just on osx or everywhere?
[17:48:20] <wjp> hi Dark-Star
[17:48:33] <Dark-Star> hi wjp
[17:48:37] <Fingolfin> on OS X, there is a crash in the native_midi code
[17:48:43] <Dark-Star> and hi to everyone else
[17:48:52] <Fingolfin> I just tracked it down to the private data of the midi driver being overwriteen
[17:49:13] <Fingolfin> that is the Mix_Music struct has a union with driver private data, and that is apparently being overwritten by garbage....
[17:52:03] <Fingolfin> is there a command in GDB that I can use to get a breakpoint once the current function ends?
[17:52:18] <Fingolfin> i.e. I want the current function to complete its work and then continue debugging in the caller
[17:53:09] <Fingolfin> ah, "finish"
[17:59:03] <wjp> yeah :-)
[18:06:11] <Dark-Star> maybe someone should update the exult "news" page again, since the last news are over 1 month old :-)
[18:06:29] <Dark-Star> s/last/latest
[18:09:05] <wjp> yes.. maybe someone should :-)
[18:09:08] * wjp looks around for volunteers
[18:09:19] * wjp watches the suddenly empty room
[18:09:27] * Dark-Star hides behind a tree
[18:10:37] <Dark-Star> seems nobody feels responsible...
[18:12:28] <Fingolfin> I can't even run exult properly, don't look at me <g>
[18:13:10] <wjp> Latest News: Exult no longer runs on MacOSX
[18:13:11] <wjp> ;-)
[18:13:38] <Fingolfin> well SI sort of works, I guess.... as long as it doesn't read the last shape in a given file ...<g>
[18:13:44] <Fingolfin> damn stdc++ lib bug
[18:13:49] <wjp> Other Breaking News: All Exult developers and fans are currently hiding behind trees
[18:14:03] <Fingolfin> it seems the darwin-gcc3 list is down, I haven't got my mail back from it nor anything else for 8 days now.
[18:14:07] <Fingolfin> hehe
[18:15:01] <wjp> mail-archive.com hasn't updated that list in quite a while too, it seems
[18:22:52] <Dark-Star> Latest announcement: Come join us on #exult, and grab yourself a tree to hide behind :-)
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[18:26:10] <artaxerxes> yo
[18:26:18] <artaxerxes> how you guys doin' ?
[18:26:35] <artaxerxes> locator.cc:431: warning: passing negative value `-1' for argument 2 of
[18:26:35] <artaxerxes> `Write4 (uint8 *&, unsigned int)'
[18:26:51] <artaxerxes> (that's what I get when I compile exult_studio)
[18:27:11] <artaxerxes> hi exultbot
[18:27:17] <artaxerxes> exultbot: hi
[18:27:17] <exultbot> Hi artaxerxes!
[18:27:25] <artaxerxes> exultbot: what's up?
[18:28:10] <wjp> hi artaxerxes
[18:28:40] <wjp> did you notice we both fixed that broken image link of Cantra in about the same minute, btw?
[18:29:21] <artaxerxes> I did not notice you touched it! :)
[18:29:25] <wjp> I had just changed the link to point to a copy I had just made a minute before you changed it :-)
[18:30:14] <wjp> (in case you're wondering how I got the image when the link was broken, 'wget --header="Referer:...' does wonders ;-) )
[18:30:25] <artaxerxes> Les grands esprits se rencontrent... ;-)
[18:30:40] <artaxerxes> I looove wget
[18:32:43] <artaxerxes> right now, I'm recompiling exult and exult_studio to get a hand on it. Heard it was tough to use
[18:33:05] <artaxerxes> ?seen Colourless
[18:33:05] <exultbot> colourless left IRC around Thu Oct 10 17:12:03 2002 (GMT) ("cya in a week or so")
[18:33:19] <artaxerxes> that should be soon
[18:34:58] <wjp> he said he would be back the 20th
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[22:04:28] <Curiousis> Finished writing my guide to making eggs in Exult Studio
[22:05:11] <Curiousis> just a few little holes left to be filled
[22:06:32] <Curiousis> and takers for giving what I've wrote a once over?
[22:08:38] <wjp> hi again
[22:08:47] <wjp> did you read my replies earlier?
[22:09:51] <wjp> I'd like to read what you wrote, but I don't have the time to do so tonight :/
[22:11:04] <Curiousis> About button eggs and external? yes, they were very helpful. Thank you
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