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[11:17:19] <Nadir> hi
[11:17:24] <Kirben> Hi
[11:18:19] <Nadir> win32 build doing ok ? :-)
[11:19:23] <Kirben> yes other than male avatar protrait still been wrong
[11:21:12] <Nadir> jeff said he would be fixing that
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[11:22:11] <Nadir> hi max
[11:22:24] <Kirben> Well bug doesn't appear for him, he closed it...
[11:22:36] <Fingolfin> hi Nadir
[11:22:46] <Fingolfin> chanserv is slow today..
[11:22:47] <Nadir> guten tag !
[11:22:52] <Fingolfin> hi Kirben
[11:23:02] <Fingolfin> bug? which bug?
[11:23:04] * Fingolfin notes he should fix keyboard input once more
[11:23:10] <Fingolfin> Nadir: <g> hier ist MIttag. Trotzdem Danke
[11:23:52] <Kirben> http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=128829&group_id=2335
[11:23:52] <Nadir> Fingolfin: anche qui è mezzogiorno
[11:25:20] <Fingolfin> Nadir: yeah, i know that it is midday in Italy, too ;)
[11:25:37] <Fingolfin> Nadir: where do you live, BTW?
[11:25:43] <Nadir> Milano
[11:25:57] <Nadir> Mailand as you silly germans call it :-)
[11:26:35] <Fingolfin> has been some years (three?) since I was last in Milano
[11:26:37] <Fingolfin> bah
[11:26:52] <Fingolfin> this just tells you how famous Milano/Mailand is!
[11:26:57] <Nadir> tourism or work
[11:27:08] <Fingolfin> only important cities have "custom" names in foreign languages
[11:27:13] <Fingolfin> and no, not tourism
[11:27:48] <Fingolfin> names like "Mailand" in German, or "Vienna" have come to existance 100+ years ago
[11:27:49] <Nadir> which customer, if I may ask?
[11:28:16] <Fingolfin> customer?
[11:28:31] <Fingolfin> anyway, I happened to like Milano if that helps you ;)
[11:28:42] <Nadir> well, if you were in Milan for work, who did you work for...
[11:31:56] <Fingolfin> a hat maker? a shoe maker? a cloth fabricant? I have no idea ;) I was only 16 when I was there ;)
[11:32:06] <Fingolfin> s/maker/artist ;)
[11:32:27] <Fingolfin> well, of course only if they need programmers ;)
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[11:39:20] <Colourless> Whoa. never been here before :)
[11:41:15] <Nadir> It's the amazing Colourless !!!!!!
[11:41:31] <Fingolfin> WOOOOHHHOOOO
[11:41:38] * Fingolfin runs and marks the day red in his calendar
[11:41:42] <Nadir> Everyone.... EXULT !!!
[11:41:46] <Nadir> :-)
[11:42:06] <Fingolfin> hehe
[11:42:22] <Colourless> hehe. I don't think i've used IRC in years
[11:43:20] <Nadir> How's summer down under ?
[11:43:44] <Colourless> very hot where i am.
[11:43:54] * Fingolfin looks at the thermometer
[11:44:03] <Fingolfin> -3 degree celsius
[11:44:29] <Fingolfin> bloody australians ;)
[11:44:32] <Colourless> it was 43.3 degrees celsius on saturday
[11:45:38] <Nadir> Does Santa wear a swimming costume when he comes your way ?
[11:46:28] <Colourless> ummm, no :)
[11:47:01] <Nadir> He must sweat a lot then...
[11:48:52] <Fingolfin> heeh
[11:48:58] <Colourless> i would imagine so. perhaps he has an air conditioned sleigh or something
[11:49:46] <Fingolfin> well
[11:49:57] <Fingolfin> the heat is the same there for him as here in australia
[11:50:14] <Fingolfin> some million degrees, caused by heat friction
[11:50:26] <Fingolfin> due to his near-lightspeed velocity
[11:51:06] <Nadir> yeah, I've read that doc
[11:51:19] <Nadir> I've also read the proof that heaven is hotter than hell
[11:53:06] <Colourless> santa moving at lightspeed velocity... well I guess it's possible if you beleive in flying reindeer
[11:53:36] <Nadir> Fingolfin: do you know how to config chanserv to give Colourless Op whenever he arrives ?
[11:53:52] <Fingolfin> yeah, but I am not sure I have the rights
[11:54:02] <Fingolfin> first he needs to register the nick with nickserv, though
[11:54:29] <Nadir> walk him through...
[11:54:30] <Fingolfin> I don't have the rights
[11:54:33] <Fingolfin> ok
[11:54:43] <Colourless> :)
[11:55:02] <Nadir> who has the rights then ? wjp ?
[11:55:09] <Fingolfin> colourless: send this: /msg nickserv REGISTER <password>
[11:55:18] <Fingolfin> nadir: yeah, wjp
[11:55:40] <Fingolfin> colourless: of course replace <password> with a nice password ;)
[11:55:51] <Colourless> so thats all I have to do
[11:55:53] <Fingolfin> colourless: but none that is too important for you, as it is sent in clear text all the time ;)
[11:56:05] <Fingolfin> Colourless almost
[11:56:20] <Fingolfin> Colourless: whenever you log onto this irc server from now one, you need to send this
[11:56:29] <Fingolfin> /msg nickserv identify <password>
[11:56:42] <Fingolfin> I have this in my "server connect" script for this server
[11:57:08] <Nadir> Fingolfin: what client do you use ?
[11:57:15] <Fingolfin> Snak, a mac only client
[11:59:15] <Colourless> ok, done
[12:01:00] <Fingolfin> Colourless: ok... now email wjp and tell him he should give you autoops for nick "Colourless"
[12:02:42] <Colourless> also done.
[12:02:50] <Nadir> excellent !
[12:03:08] <Fingolfin> yeah ;)
[12:03:31] * Nadir should go back to hack on Exult a bit eventually...
[12:05:15] <Fingolfin> question:
[12:05:36] <Fingolfin> I have a guy here who has a linux problem. He installed bzip2 on his system (using make install)
[12:05:44] <Fingolfin> worked fine. the lib is now in /usr/lib/
[12:05:52] <Nadir> ok
[12:06:07] <Fingolfin> however, a project which uses bzip2 complains on ./configure that it cannot find bzip2
[12:06:28] <Fingolfin> it uses this line in configure.in
[12:06:28] <Fingolfin> AC_CHECK_LIB(bz2,BZ2_bzCompressInit, ,AC_MSG_ERROR([Bzip2 libraries not found]))
[12:06:30] <Fingolfin> any idea?
[12:06:34] <Nadir> has he done (as root) /sbin/ldconfig ?
[12:06:42] <Fingolfin> hrm...
[12:06:45] <Fingolfin> good question ;)
[12:08:52] <Nadir> He only installed the shared lib (libbz2.so.*) and not the static one (libbz2.a) ?
[12:09:02] <Fingolfin> he has both
[12:09:20] <Fingolfin> I already thought of that and let him do "ls *bz2*" in his lib dir ;)
[12:09:39] <Nadir> does it work now ?
[12:09:44] <Fingolfin> ibbz2.a libbz2.so libbz2.so.0.0.0 libbz2.la libbz2.so.0 libbz2.so.1.0.0-x86-linux22-glibc2.1.1
[12:09:46] <Fingolfin> nope
[12:09:56] <Fingolfin> maybe he needs to use a --prefix option?
[12:10:21] <Nadir> he shouldn't need to. what about config.log ? (only relevant lines, please)
[12:18:41] <Fingolfin> hrm
[12:18:52] <Fingolfin> he's trying to install the RPM of bzip2 now...
[12:18:54] <Fingolfin> well
[12:19:12] <Fingolfin> there's someone else telling him to do that... so if they have more look this way I am fine ;)
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[12:29:29] <Fingolfin> ok, I gotta go back to university...
[12:29:33] <Fingolfin> be back in a few hours ;)
[12:29:40] <Fingolfin> guess colourless will be in bed then ;)
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[12:31:06] <Colourless> he's probably wrong :)
[12:31:19] <Nadir> what time is it there ?
[12:31:33] <Colourless> 23:06
[12:32:01] <Nadir> hacking on exult ?
[12:32:20] <Colourless> compiling at this very moment
[12:32:43] <Nadir> I've seen the paperdolls for BG on the message board. Working on that ?
[12:36:32] <Nadir> ryan ?
[12:37:49] <Colourless> yes i am
[12:38:08] <Nadir> how's it going ?
[12:40:04] <Colourless> well, i haven't really done anything since i took the screenshot. all i did was copy the paperdol.vga file to the ultima7/static dir and enabled the paperdolls. it appears that some of the shapes have the same numbers in BG and SI. I was surprised that it worked as well as it did
[12:43:45] <Nadir> what about Spark, Tseramed, etc ?
[12:45:13] <Colourless> They show up as the 'default' paperdoll
[12:46:31] <Nadir> Maybe we can get someone to draw the shapes for us and we can convert them using the GIMP plugin.
[12:47:49] <Colourless> i was thinking about it myself and It shouldn't be too hard as the existing inventory screens have heads and faces on them. We could just use them
[12:48:27] * Nadir thinks that we might have (C) problems with Origin's art
[12:49:08] <Colourless> didn't consider that
[12:51:58] <Nadir> But then again the fonts I'm using in the menus are Origin's.
[12:56:10] <Colourless> i don't know. I was just going to use some of the other serpent isle paperdoll heads for the bg characters
[12:57:05] <Nadir> But it would be so much better if we could have custom paperdolls..
[12:58:06] <Colourless> of course it would
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[14:29:28] <wjp> hi there
[14:45:12] <Nadir> hi
[14:45:29] <Nadir> wjp: could you please make Colourless auto-op ?
[14:45:35] <wjp> sure
[14:45:45] <Nadir> he's already registered with nickserv
[14:45:53] <wjp> done
[14:46:30] <Nadir> I think colourless may be sleeping now, as it is 3 in the morning down under...
[14:46:42] <Colourless> it's only 1:12
[14:46:53] <Nadir> he lives !!!
[14:47:10] <wjp> hi Ryan
[14:47:14] <Colourless> hi
[14:47:41] <wjp> no auto-rejoin?
[14:47:42] <wjp> oops :-)
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[14:47:52] <Colourless> :)
[14:47:53] <wjp> ok, it works :-)
[14:47:55] <wjp> sorry :-)
[14:47:58] <Nadir> that was not very nice wjp
[14:48:06] <Colourless> hehe
[14:49:27] <Nadir> no title...
[14:49:46] <wjp> yup :-(
[14:50:07] <wjp> ChanServ is supposed to set the topic automatically
[14:50:21] <Nadir> what to ?
[14:50:35] --- wjp has changed the topic to: Exult, the opensource Ultima 7 engine
[14:50:37] <wjp> that
[14:50:51] --- Nadir has changed the topic to: Exult, the opensource Ultima 7 and Ultima 7 Part II engine
[14:50:57] <Nadir> better :-)
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[14:54:45] --- Topic for #exult set by Nadir at Wed Jan 17 14:50:51 2001
[14:56:29] <Nadir> exultbot: that was quick.
[14:56:52] <Nadir> ?join
[14:57:03] <Nadir> tsk
[14:57:40] <wjp> did you think up a reply yet? :-)
[14:57:49] <Nadir> nope
[14:58:22] <wjp> ok... got one :-)
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[15:00:55] <Nadir> ?join
[15:00:55] <exultbot> I would be honored to join thee, Avatar, but wjp won't let me.
[15:01:05] <Nadir> very good :D
[15:01:20] <Colourless> :)
[15:01:44] <wjp> the only problem is that it doesn't make much sense if I say it :-(
[15:02:15] <Nadir> s/wjp won't let me/I'm already in #exult's party/
[15:02:28] <wjp> hehe :-)
[15:02:35] * wjp changes that
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[15:03:04] --- Topic for #exult set by Nadir at Wed Jan 17 14:50:51 2001
[15:03:13] <wjp> ?join
[15:03:13] <exultbot> I would be honored to join thee, Avatar, but I'm already in #exult's party.
[15:03:37] <Nadir> ryan: have you used exultbot ?
[15:03:44] <Colourless> no
[15:03:46] <Nadir> ?logs
[15:03:46] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/exultlog.php3
[15:04:02] <Nadir> ?seen fingolfin
[15:04:02] <exultbot> fingolfin left #exult around Wed Jan 17 12:29:51 2001 (GMT)
[15:04:21] <wjp> ?seen exultbot
[15:04:21] <exultbot> That's me!
[15:05:10] <Nadir> ?version
[15:05:10] <exultbot> The latest official version of Exult is: 0.90alpha1
[15:05:27] <Nadir> ?download
[15:05:39] <wjp> it doesn't know download
[15:05:46] <wjp> ?version
[15:05:46] <exultbot> The latest official version of Exult is: 0.90alpha1
[15:05:48] <wjp> ?exultbot
[15:05:48] <exultbot> Exultbot is written in Perl by Willem Jan Palenstijn.
[15:05:50] <wjp> ?url
[15:05:50] <exultbot> The official Exult homepage is at: http://exult.sourceforge.net/
[15:05:54] <wjp> ?homepage
[15:05:54] <exultbot> The official Exult homepage is at :http://exult.sourceforge.net/
[15:05:56] <wjp> ?faq
[15:05:56] <exultbot> You can find the semi-official FAQ at: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9848357/exult/exult_faq.htm
[15:05:58] <wjp> ?snapshot
[15:05:58] <exultbot> You can find daily windows snapshots at: http://io.spaceports.com/~kirben/
[15:06:00] <wjp> ?exult
[15:06:00] <exultbot> Exult is a project to create an Ultima 7 game engine that runs on modern operating systems, capable of using the data and graphics files that come with the game. See http://exult.sourceforge.net/ for more information.
[15:06:04] <wjp> ?ultima
[15:06:04] <exultbot> Ultima is an epic RPG game series created by Origin.
[15:06:08] <wjp> ?logs
[15:06:08] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/exultlog.php3
[15:06:12] <wjp> ?name
[15:06:12] <exultbot> Greetings Avatar. I am called Exultbot.
[15:06:13] <wjp> ?job
[15:06:13] <exultbot> My job is to write down everything you say.
[15:06:14] <wjp> ?bye
[15:06:14] <exultbot> Goodbye, Avatar.
[15:06:16] <wjp> ?join
[15:06:16] <exultbot> I would be honored to join thee, Avatar, but I'm already in #exult's party.
[15:06:22] <wjp> ?seen X
[15:06:22] <exultbot> I haven't seen x lately
[15:06:26] <wjp> ?help
[15:07:25] <Nadir> no help ?
[15:07:34] <wjp> yes, but it's sent privately
[15:07:41] <wjp> don't really know why
[15:07:56] <Nadir> ?help
[15:08:12] <Nadir> and it's incomplete
[15:08:17] <wjp> that too
[15:08:31] <Colourless> ?help
[15:08:32] <wjp> I'm going to dynamically generate that list someday
[15:08:48] <wjp> and put all the data in separate files instead of in the script itself
[15:08:57] <wjp> and...., and..., and... :-)
[15:09:00] <Nadir> is the script GPLed ?
[15:09:06] <wjp> not yet
[15:09:28] <wjp> it will be, someday :-)
[15:10:40] <Nadir> a "?download win32" which starts a DCC Send would be cool
[15:11:09] <wjp> I don't think the sysops here would like that :-)
[15:11:16] <Nadir> right
[15:11:29] <Colourless> ummm, i just killed batlin in exult
[15:11:37] <Nadir> what about just printing the sourceforge download link
[15:11:45] <Nadir> die batlin die !!!
[15:11:55] <wjp> brb
[15:12:32] <Colourless> :)
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[15:15:12] <TonyHoyt> Hello people. Wow. full around here tonight.
[15:15:44] <Nadir> hi tony
[15:15:50] <Colourless> um, hi
[15:16:33] <Nadir> Colourless: where did you kill batlin ? Fellowship HQ or Black Gate ?
[15:16:56] <Colourless> Fellowship HQ with a Magic Axe
[15:17:09] <Nadir> cheating ?
[15:17:14] <Colourless> no
[15:17:35] <TonyHoyt> Doh. What did the original game do when you combated Batlin?
[15:19:35] <Nadir> dunno
[15:21:19] <Colourless> i think he just attacked back, but didn't get damaged
[15:21:45] <TonyHoyt> Is there an invunerability flag?
[15:24:33] <Colourless> dunno, maybe
[15:26:06] <TonyHoyt> Be back later guys
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[15:28:49] <wjp> I'm going home
[15:28:50] <wjp> see you later
[15:28:56] <Colourless> ok
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[15:59:31] <wjp> ?seen colourless
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[18:05:58] <wjp> ?join
[18:05:58] <exultbot> I would be honored to join thee, Avatar, but I'm already in #exult's party.
[18:06:40] <wjp> (thanks to Tristan :-) )
[18:15:32] <Fingolfin> LOL
[18:15:34] <Fingolfin> argh
[18:15:35] <Fingolfin> CHAOS
[18:15:40] <Fingolfin> my father just left...
[18:15:52] <Fingolfin> and he left a lot of stuff for me here ;)
[18:16:04] <Fingolfin> like a CD burner, and some DVDs, and a keyboard, and and and
[18:16:10] <wjp> nice :-)
[18:16:13] <Fingolfin> and my own "piles" are already numerous...
[18:16:19] <Fingolfin> so I now really gotta clean up
[18:16:33] * wjp just cleaned up last week :-)
[18:16:50] <Fingolfin> and I have still homework to do... and I have to create excerises for the learning weekend where I am tutor (*this* weekend... sigh)
[18:16:53] <Fingolfin> AARGGH
[18:16:59] <Fingolfin> I think I better start bow ;)
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[18:17:12] <wjp> ok, good luck :-)
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[20:08:08] <chimera|work> greetings !!
[20:08:25] <wjp> hi
[20:08:44] * wjp just reduced Exult's compile time by over 20% :-)
[20:09:34] <chimera|work> yay!
[20:11:27] <chimera|work> I checked out mozila 0.7 or whatever it was
[20:11:28] <chimera|work> pretty slick
[20:11:31] <chimera|work> but no SSL? =(
[20:11:59] <wjp> 0.7 has SSL in windows & linux
[20:12:06] <chimera|work> by default? ...
[20:12:11] <chimera|work> whenever I go to an SSL page, it just hangs
[20:12:15] <chimera|work> and I have to kill the process
[20:12:16] <wjp> hmm
[20:12:47] * wjp tries SSL
[20:13:45] <wjp> seems to work
[20:30:54] * chimera|work scratches head
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[21:02:03] <wjp> hi Max
[21:02:12] <wjp> finished cleaning?
[21:02:22] <Fingolfin> hi
[21:02:34] <Fingolfin> <sigh>
[21:02:37] <Fingolfin> I just tried to install OS X
[21:02:46] <Fingolfin> mostly ,) but I stil need to finish homework :(
[21:03:02] <wjp> I've just reduced Exult compile time by another 20%
[21:03:03] <Fingolfin> I failed to install OS X, it freezes at the very end of the installation (when it says "Press restart to start the new system)...
[21:03:08] <Fingolfin> cool! how?
[21:03:29] <Fingolfin> ah
[21:03:30] <wjp> replaced SDL.h includes by SDL_video.h, SDL_events.h, etc... as necessary
[21:03:33] <Fingolfin> SDL.h ;)
[21:03:37] <wjp> right :-)
[21:03:49] <wjp> iwin8.h still has a nearly useless SDL_video.h include, though
[21:04:07] <wjp> just for the SDL_Color array
[21:04:51] <wjp> but anyway, it freezes at "press restart" ? and what happens when you reboot after that?
[21:04:57] <Fingolfin> well
[21:05:11] <Fingolfin> it boots to the old system
[21:05:20] <Fingolfin> from there I am supposed to be able to choose the other disk as boot volume
[21:05:29] <Fingolfin> but it does not recognize a system on that disk :(
[21:05:37] <wjp> :-(
[21:09:55] <Fingolfin> oh well
[21:10:06] <Fingolfin> I could try english language, but I doubt it'll help
[21:10:24] <Fingolfin> maybe because I do not use the Apple ATA driver, but a custom one (Which is faster)... hr,
[21:11:37] <Fingolfin> hm
[21:11:51] <Fingolfin> I think Apple has a help DB for OS X, I'll check their homepage
[21:18:38] <Fingolfin> have you given colourless auto-ops, BTW?
[21:18:52] <Fingolfin> I have had an idea, I'll try that now, thus I reboot. Maybe till later...
[21:18:57] * Fingolfin also has to finish homework
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[22:26:51] <Fingolfin> grrr
[22:26:53] <Fingolfin> damn OS X :/
[22:26:59] <chimera|work> herhe
[22:27:59] <Fingolfin> chimera: bah, you don't even know what I am talking about
[22:28:09] <wjp> same crash?
[22:28:54] <chimera|work> Fingolfin: I know that you're cursing OS X.. that's all I need to know =]
[22:29:00] <Fingolfin> bah
[22:29:02] <Fingolfin> wjp: well
[22:29:24] <Fingolfin> wjp: I first had noticed that exactly one file was missing... I copied it manually
[22:29:28] <Fingolfin> and then it booted!!!!
[22:29:39] <Fingolfin> setup assistant launched... wonderful
[22:29:46] <Fingolfin> I enter all my data etc., and start it, fine
[22:29:57] <Fingolfin> then at some point it just hangs...
[22:30:04] <Fingolfin> the setup I mean
[22:30:23] <Fingolfin> thus I got farther, but not to the system actually running
[22:33:22] <wjp> bah :-(
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[23:09:15] <Fingolfin> I go to bed now!
[23:09:17] <Fingolfin> cya
[23:09:21] <wjp> bye
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[23:10:16] <Kirben> Hi
[23:10:19] <wjp> hi
[23:10:50] <Kirben> Compile is broken again:
[23:10:51] <Kirben> g++ -mwindows -O2 -DVERSION=\"0.90alpha1\" -DEXULT_DATADIR=\"data\" -g3 -DDEBUG
[23:10:52] <Kirben> -DSIZEOF_SHORT=2 -DSIZEOF_INT=4 -I./imagewin -I./shapes -I./files -I. -I./audio
[23:10:52] <Kirben> -I./conf -I./gumps -I./objs -I./pathfinder -I./usecode -I./sdl/include -c -o ga
[23:10:52] <Kirben> medat.o gamedat.cc
[23:10:53] <Kirben> In file included from gamedat.cc:49:
[23:10:55] <Kirben> .\gumps\gump_utils.h: In function `void Delay()':
[23:10:59] <Kirben> .\gumps\gump_utils.h:87: implicit declaration of function `int SDL_Delay(...)'
[23:11:01] <Kirben> make: *** [gamedat.o] Error 1
[23:13:12] <wjp> ok, try it now
[23:13:57] <Kirben> that fixed it
[23:14:05] <wjp> good :-)
[23:14:41] <wjp> I've been removing all those useless #include "SDL.h"'s and replacing them by #include "SDL_video.h", "SDL_audio.h", etc...
[23:15:04] <wjp> there was some windows-only code in gump_utils.h that I missed :-(
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