#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 17 May 2003 (GMT)

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[10:07:44] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult: An open-source engine for Ultima 7: The Black Gate and The Serpent Isle; http://exult.sf.net/
[10:07:44] --- Topic for #exult set by SB-X at Fri Apr 4 19:07:29 2003
[10:10:20] * Darke yays! wjp kicked the bot and it's back!
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[10:14:27] <Fingolfin> hi
[10:14:49] <Darke> Hi!
[10:20:20] <wjp> Darke: actually I kicked the server :-)
[10:21:00] <wjp> hi Max
[10:21:27] <Fingolfin> hi
[10:22:02] * Fingolfin is sad/angry - working on a project where one specific team member doesn't get along with another at all. In fact he make bad remarks about the other guy all the time
[10:22:03] <wjp> now let's see how long it stays up this time
[10:22:22] <Fingolfin> just now he wrote in an email thread "just ignore the emails from foo@bar.net", implying that he only talks nonsense.
[10:22:31] * wjp sighs :/
[10:22:39] <Fingolfin> when in fact that person didn't even say what was claimed he said - he merely asked questions
[10:22:57] <Fingolfin> and this is not the first time he resorts to really rude / heavy attacks, including curse words etc.
[10:23:20] <Fingolfin> he's a valuable member concerning the code etc. he produces and has good knowledge
[10:23:45] <Fingolfin> but IMHO he's not a team player if he acts like this.
[10:23:56] <Fingolfin> so now I emailed him, with CC to my co-admins, and told him to stop..
[10:24:27] <Fingolfin> but I am afraid that won't work, to the contrary, I expect the same reaction as last time: he'll insult me, too, and start making comment about me, too
[10:24:41] * Darke icks. That's always a problem. I hope things sort themselves out.
[10:24:52] <Fingolfin> so, if that goes on, I'll have to talk with my co-admins if we kick him out. I wouldn't like that much, but sometimes I fear you have no other choice
[10:25:00] <Fingolfin> Darke: I really hope so, too
[10:25:23] <Fingolfin> last time he insulted me in a thread quite heavily, and unfoundedly, after 2 days of trying to decide how to react, I just ignored him.
[10:25:35] <Fingolfin> I feel how he acts is extremly counter productive
[10:25:50] <Fingolfin> it seem's he's a prime example of the geek with seriously lacking communication abilities...
[10:26:33] <Darke> The 'problem' is that they'll likely be a domino effect if he bitches about you too, someone else will come into the fray to defend you, then he'll get yelled at, then another will defend him... at the very least if he's insulting the entire admin team, there probably won't be much of dissention if you decide to kick him out. *grin*
[10:26:39] <Darke> Yep.
[10:28:51] <Darke> I don't know how he'd survive if he worked in a programming team iRL and acted like that. He's probably not as bad iRL though, since the relative anonymity of the net tends to exacerbate such a personality. *sigh*
[10:30:38] <Fingolfin> yeah
[10:30:56] <Fingolfin> I have had perfectly reasonably, very productive discussions with him, too
[10:31:10] <Fingolfin> but sometimes he gets down to a personal/flamatory level without any apparent reason
[10:32:29] <Fingolfin> in this case, it's clear that "B" (let's call him like that) dislikes person "D" a lot. Sad, but his problem. But why has he to say things like "ignore him he just talks nonsense anyway", when "D" didn't even say the (admittedly nonsense) that B referred to. That's IMHO quite idiotic
[10:32:38] <Fingolfin> grr
[10:32:44] <Darke> Agreed.
[10:34:46] <Darke> Random "I hate you, thus I'm not even going to try to get along with you." is... not fun for those watching from the sidelines. I've had to deal with similar in a rather more 'normal' environment, a friend rather not liking another friend's girlfriend. Made some things difficult.
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[10:43:26] <Colourless> hi
[10:43:31] <Darke> Greetings.
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[10:44:47] <wjp> gah
[10:45:00] <Colourless> hi
[10:45:57] <Fingolfin> Darke: oh yeah, brother, I hear ya :-)
[10:46:00] <Fingolfin> hi Colourless
[10:46:04] <Darke> wjp: Nice to see you too. *grin*
[10:46:17] <Fingolfin> anyway, gotta go for now, <threat>will be back later</threat>
[10:46:24] <wjp> today promises to be a very bad day... :-)
[10:46:27] <wjp> bye
[10:46:30] <Fingolfin> muwaahahahha
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[10:46:33] * Darke gasps in horror! Bye!
[10:46:46] <Darke> wjp: *grin* At least you won't be bored like yesterday!
[10:47:06] <wjp> oh, I wasn't bored anymore when I got home
[10:47:23] <wjp> read lots of usecode, implemented some more intrinsics, ...
[10:47:40] * Darke suffers from being very non-bored at work. Too few people to do too much stuff. *grin*
[11:47:43] * Darke gets the feeling that sf.net is getting a little desperate for revenue. They've got a "Buy Viagra Online" link under their 'Sponsored Content' link on the bottom left of the main project pages. *grin*
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[17:45:45] <wjp> hi Max
[17:45:48] <Fingolfin> yo
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[20:43:47] <Perdition> hey there :)
[20:43:55] <Perdition> topic hasnt been changed in over a month, get that looked at
[20:44:01] <Perdition> how is everyone doing? :)
[20:44:02] <Perdition> hehe
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[20:46:25] <wjp> hi
[20:46:34] <wjp> not overly much going on in here
[20:46:48] <wjp> activity is currently in #pentagram :-)
[20:47:41] <Perdition> thanks :)
[20:47:47] <Perdition> im just a big fan of the series that's all
[20:48:27] <Perdition> heh, the only time the pc speakers sounded well with ultima 6 was on my old 286, even when i tried mo'sloing it, well, ach
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