#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 17 Nov 2001 (GMT)

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[09:48:19] * SharpTooth pawwaves at exultbot.
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[10:37:23] <sbx> ?date
[10:37:23] <exultbot> It is now Sat Nov 17 10:37:23 2001 (GMT).
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[10:41:39] * SharpTooth greetingsbows "Hi."
[10:42:01] <SB-X> Hi.
[11:05:13] <SB-X> why are there two mattos?
[11:13:35] <SharpTooth> One's on his home machine, and one's on his work machine?
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[11:15:06] <wjp> hi
[11:15:11] <SB-X> hi
[11:15:33] <SB-X> SharpTooth: oic, he has a clone that goes to work for him while he stays home
[11:15:42] <wjp> hehe :-)
[11:25:23] <SharpTooth> Hi.
[11:25:40] <SharpTooth> SB-X: Possibly. <grin> An automaton?
[11:31:04] <SB-X> no just an NPC with a different program, like Batlin and Batlin_Monster... matto and matto_wookin
[12:06:31] * SharpTooth wonders what matto's shape number is.
[13:22:59] <SB-X> is something wrong with timestamps in newest exult CVS?
[13:24:29] <SharpTooth> How new? I grabbed a copy a few hours ago, and it seems to work.
[13:24:47] <SB-X> today
[13:25:04] <wjp> hmm, no problems here
[13:25:08] <wjp> what exactly is wrong?
[13:25:11] <SB-X> make[1]: *** Warning: File `objs/egg.h' has modification time in the future (2001-11-17 14:43:32 > 2001-11-17 07:14:56)
[13:25:19] <SharpTooth> The straight from cvs copy seems to work.
[13:25:23] <SB-X> several of those messages
[13:25:36] <SB-X> maybe my date is wrong
[13:26:09] <SharpTooth> Possible. Or you've just got your time zone incorrect?
[13:26:29] <SharpTooth> Though that wouldn't explain it suddenly happening.
[13:27:43] <SB-X> also the changelog has a listing of the 17th from Nadir but then one from the 16th after that, is that normal?
[13:28:05] <wjp> well, we put the dates in the changelog manually
[13:28:18] <SB-X> oh
[13:28:53] <wjp> Nadir's update was probably from soon after midnight in Italy
[13:29:17] <SB-X> ?date
[13:29:17] <exultbot> It is now Sat Nov 17 13:29:17 2001 (GMT).
[13:29:34] <SB-X> :-)
[13:30:01] <SB-X> i can ignore warnings
[13:30:10] <SharpTooth> It's 23:31 here. <grin> So exultbot is 10 hours behind me.
[13:30:29] <SB-X> and a minute
[13:30:52] <wjp> it's 14:32 for exultbot
[13:30:57] <wjp> he just reports GMT
[13:31:28] <SharpTooth> Either my computer clock is out, or his is. I'm not going to quibble over a couple of minutes. <grin>
[13:32:01] <SharpTooth> Anyway, just touch those particular files and it should work without warnings, the latest cvs seems to have no warning problems though.
[13:33:09] <SB-X> btw i also tried --enable-awful-warnings and they ARE awful heh
[13:33:20] <wjp> :-)
[13:39:45] * SharpTooth hasn't even bothered trying that flag. He knows the warnings are going to be aweful. Both in scope and the number of them. <grin>
[13:41:10] <SB-X> is this error at the end normal:
[13:41:14] <SB-X> mkdir -p /Applications/
[13:41:23] <SB-X> cp -r Exult_app /Applications/
[13:41:24] <SB-X> cp: Exult_app: No such file or directory
[13:41:33] <wjp> that sounds very MacOSX-ish
[13:41:34] <SB-X> ?
[13:41:41] <SB-X> thats what i thought
[13:41:44] <wjp> blame Fingolfin :-)
[13:42:04] <wjp> is that on a make install?
[13:42:08] <SB-X> yes
[13:42:10] <SharpTooth> Hmm... I've never seen that before.
[13:42:23] <SB-X> it is np
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[13:43:26] <Colourless> hi
[13:43:31] <wjp> hi
[13:43:34] <SharpTooth> Hi.
[13:44:39] <SB-X> hi
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[14:15:22] <SB-X> is there a map of serpent isle in the game?
[14:16:13] <SB-X> that would get used with M
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[14:20:04] <SharpTooth> SB-X: There should be if there was a 'M' command in the original SI (I haven't really played it). But I don't know which flex file it might be in.
[14:22:22] <Colourless> there is a map
[14:23:47] <wjp> sprites.vga
[14:24:28] <wjp> it is used for 'm', but only if you have found an SI map in the game itself
[14:25:18] <wjp> sprites.vga, shape 22
[14:25:33] <SB-X> where is the map in the game? :-)
[14:26:05] <wjp> there's a mapmaker just SE of Fawn
[14:27:01] <SB-X> thanks
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[14:45:54] <SB-X> hmm
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[15:36:24] * SharpTooth throws an undead trout at exultbot.
[15:36:56] <Colourless> undead?
[15:37:02] <Colourless> :-)
[15:37:13] <Colourless> you mean it's a zombie trout?
[15:37:22] <Colourless> or a skeleton trout?
[15:37:28] <SharpTooth> I can't really explain the fishes in ultima that happen to have a body that you can't eat. <grin>
[15:37:31] <Colourless> or a ghoul, or a ghost... what????
[15:37:58] <Colourless> :-)
[15:38:06] * SB-X finds a key in the undead trout and pockets it.
[15:38:22] <SharpTooth> That's what I'd like to know. <grin> I'm pretty sure they aren't ghosts, since they actually have a physical form.
[15:41:56] * SharpTooth hopes SB-X doesn't get his hands on the Hoe of Destruction.
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[15:45:40] * SB-X prefers swords.
[15:46:44] <Colourless> but a Hoe is such a unique weapon
[15:46:45] * wjp looks at the "Something to try thread"
[15:47:12] <wjp> the layout is a bit broken there
[15:47:23] <SB-X> hmm i guess powder kegs are nice too :-)
[15:48:32] * wjp decides it's another bug in Galeon.. never mind :-)
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[15:53:08] <Waz> wow.. the mother load!
[15:53:50] <Colourless> what?
[15:54:15] <Waz> oh.. nothing.. just shocked. :)
[15:54:24] <Colourless> about what?
[15:54:46] <Waz> that someone.. *counts* 6 people are here
[15:55:14] <Colourless> that's not *that* many
[15:55:26] * SharpTooth grins. "More then normal perhaps?"
[15:56:04] <Waz> well.. when i usualy drop in, 4:00 gmt.., no one is here..
[15:56:18] <SB-X> Wazup?
[15:56:22] <SB-X> sorry :-)
[15:56:32] <SB-X> hi
[15:56:37] <Colourless> well at that time of day everyone is sleeping or something ;-)
[15:56:40] <Waz> not me.. i'm sleppy...
[15:56:43] * SharpTooth throws his backup undead trout at SB-X.
[15:57:11] <SharpTooth> SB-X: That's sad. <grin>
[15:57:14] <Waz> well.. where i live its .. 23:00
[15:57:18] * SB-X still has his key to the shack in case he needs it.
[15:57:32] <Waz> but any.. silly talk of time zones..
[15:57:46] <SB-X> it is 9 here
[15:57:57] <Colourless> 2:31 here
[15:57:59] <SharpTooth> 2:00am here.
[15:58:03] <Colourless> am
[15:58:23] <Waz> i got 10:00 am here..
[16:00:18] * Waz kicks the sun one to down under.. though.. why it the islan/continnent considered 'down'.. i mean. magneticly.. fields don't have north or south.. they just have.. + and - maybe its all of north america and euroasia thats down...
[16:03:11] <Waz> and this reminds me of Exult!
[16:03:15] <Waz> }:>
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[17:52:15] <Fingolfin> lo
[17:52:26] <Colourless> hi
[17:52:35] <wjp> hi
[17:53:11] <wjp> Max, SB-X just noticed you put the OSX Exult_app installation in Makefile.am unconditionally
[17:53:17] <Fingolfin> can somebody tell me where I would get zutil.h to enable compressed save games?
[17:53:24] <Fingolfin> hmmm
[17:53:32] <Fingolfin> did I? bad if I did :)
[17:53:42] <wjp> you're the third person who doesn't have zutil.h installed by default
[17:53:52] <wjp> Colourless: didn't we only need it for a single define?
[17:54:15] <Fingolfin> neither does the system ship it, nor does the manually built zlib i have installed, too
[17:54:25] * Fingolfin looks at Makefile.am and goes fix it as needed
[17:54:38] <wjp> my .rpm does have it, strangely
[17:55:37] <Colourless> wjp, yes
[17:55:58] * Fingolfin rebuilds zlib to see why this is not installed
[17:58:32] <Fingolfin> erhm
[17:58:33] <SB-X> hi
[17:58:45] <Fingolfin> zutil.h -- internal interface and configuration of the compression library
[17:58:59] <Fingolfin> WARNING: this file should *not* be used by applications. It is
[17:58:59] <Fingolfin> part of the implementation of the compression library and is
[17:58:59] <Fingolfin> subject to change. Applications should only use zlib.h.
[17:58:59] <Fingolfin>
[17:59:07] <wjp> heh :-)
[17:59:31] <Fingolfin> the Makefile's install script doesn't install it either
[17:59:41] <Fingolfin> I'd say, kick the RPM maintainer for including that file.... :)
[17:59:47] <Colourless> which file has the problem?
[18:00:18] <wjp> it's also included in the 2.4 kernel source tree :-)
[18:00:30] <SB-X> and in the qt library if you have that
[18:00:32] <wjp> oh, and the cvs sources, ssh sources, etc...
[18:00:57] <Fingolfin> kick them all!
[18:01:01] <Fingolfin> those bastards! :)
[18:02:12] <Fingolfin> hm, when I quit exult, it buserrors.. sigh
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[18:23:01] <SB-X> wb
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[18:54:36] <Colourless> hey, can someone tell me what they get where they got here: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/
[18:55:06] <wjp> anything in particular you want/don't want me to see?
[18:55:21] <Colourless> do you get to the forum?
[18:55:33] <wjp> yeah
[18:56:31] <Colourless> i can't get there. the webpages is just random characters
[18:56:50] <wjp> strange. I assume you tried reloading a few times?
[18:57:50] <SB-X> i see it fine
[18:57:53] <Colourless> yeah
[18:58:16] <Colourless> same thing everytime
[18:58:28] <Colourless> here is a sample: 4 0r7YHjZ5n7ZM
[18:58:38] <wjp> nice
[18:58:39] <Colourless> any formatting is purely accidental
[18:58:49] <SB-X> 4 0r7YHjZ5n7ZM
[18:58:58] <wjp> http://www.ttlg.com/forums/ubb/ultimatebb.php
[18:59:00] <SB-X> with some unprintables
[18:59:01] <wjp> does that one work?
[19:00:15] <Colourless> yeah it is... very slowly
[19:47:44] * matto cracks SB-X's pate
[20:00:46] <SB-X> ...?
[20:03:25] <SB-X> i dont have a pate
[20:06:23] <matto> oh ... my mistake <grin>
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[20:16:09] <wjp> hi
[20:16:16] <Joar> Hello...
[20:16:22] <Colourless> hi
[20:16:26] <SB-X> hi
[20:17:08] <Joar> I just found the Exult site a few days ago, but can't get the wave sounds to work. Could one of you give me a hand?
[20:17:49] <SB-X> put <waves>directorytoyoursfxpack</waves> inside the <blackgate> or <serpentisle> sections
[20:18:02] <Joar> Let me try...
[20:22:31] <Joar> Nope...still just midi music
[20:23:46] <Joar> Anything else I can try?
[20:24:47] <wjp> could you dcc me your exult.cfg?
[20:24:52] <wjp> also, what OS are you using?
[20:25:33] <Joar> Hold on... Think I missed something in the .cfg Let me try that first
[20:26:43] <Joar> Yay! I have sound! :)
[20:27:22] <Joar> Can't belive I missed that. Never saw the </serpentisle>, so I thought it didn't have an end
[20:27:28] <Joar> Thanks, though
[20:27:40] <Joar> I'm off to play ;)
[20:27:44] <Joar> See you...
[20:27:49] <wjp> bye
[20:27:53] <SB-X> bye
[20:27:55] <Colourless> bye
[20:28:15] <Joar> By the way...keep up the great work. Been waiting for something like this for ages :)
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[20:33:33] <Colourless> i should be going
[20:33:41] <SB-X> :-|
[20:33:43] <wjp> k, goodnight
[20:33:49] <Colourless> cya
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[20:33:58] <SB-X> :-(
[20:34:36] <matto> :)