#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 19 Aug 2003 (GMT)

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[04:41:59] <SB-X> hi jan_here
[04:42:08] <jan_here> oh, hi.
[04:43:04] <jan_here> consider yourself lucky you're not on the mainling lis┤t anymore...
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[04:56:47] <SB-X> ?
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[04:57:00] <sbx|afk> !
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[10:39:07] <daniel`> ppl really should learn to use another network besides plain old generic freenode
[10:40:57] <DarkeZzz> Eh? Why? We've been here since it was called openprojects.net, which certainly described why we're here, and there's no real reason to chance, since people know we're here. *grin*
[10:43:34] <daniel`> no
[10:43:40] <daniel`> I mean how there are multiple freenodes
[10:43:59] <daniel`> everyone seems to use the main one, and that one gets DDOS'd the most
[10:44:50] * sbx|afk shows everyone his node. Jealous?
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[10:45:05] <sb-x> haha
[10:45:06] <sb-x> nm
[10:45:12] <sb-x> sorry
[10:47:55] <DarkeZzz> Heh.
[10:48:46] <sb-x> i only know the one freenode
[10:49:24] <daniel`> irc.au.freenode.net?
[10:49:30] <daniel`> irc.us.freenode.net
[10:49:38] <daniel`> irc.eu.freenode.net
[10:49:45] <daniel`> all of those work
[10:50:35] <sb-x> i thought they'd be the same
[10:50:49] <sb-x> don't they select a random one for you?
[10:57:44] * DarkeZzz uses irc.au.freenode.net unless it's down.
[11:01:52] <sb-x> There's no period in Dr Pepper. That's what we should be worrying about, having our thirst cured by an uncertified doctor.
[11:02:07] <sb-x> time to go waste some time
[11:02:07] <sb-x> cya
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[11:40:16] <Colourless> hi
[11:57:53] <Colourless> :-)
[11:57:55] <Colourless> -> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.welchia.worm.html
[11:57:56] <Colourless> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.dumaru@mm.html
[11:58:19] <Colourless> (ignore second link) :-)
[11:59:36] * DarkeZzz looks curiously.
[12:00:51] <DarkeZzz> Not so great thing to implement. Ah well, I suppose their heart's in the right place. *grin*
[12:00:59] <Colourless> :-)
[12:01:11] <Colourless> well, it's better than blaster it would seem :-)
[12:01:41] <Colourless> of course, blaster was a pretty crappy worm anyway.
[12:02:20] <DarkeZzz> Yeah. Blaster accidentally screwed up enough that anything done by the missapplication of the patch won't be any worse. *grin*
[12:02:21] <Colourless> of course this new worm makes me laugh. It actually fixes the exploit it uses to spread
[12:03:35] <DarkeZzz> Yup. *grin* It's a topic that regularly appears on bugtraq. every now and again someone makes a worm that 'fixes' the vulnerability it uses to exploit it, a previous MS bug a year or two ago also had a fix like this. Code Red, or something I think.
[12:03:53] * DarkeZzz can't remember half these windows virus names. Dime a dozen they are.
[12:06:38] <DarkeZzz> It'd be fine, of course, if MS actually released patches you could rely on fixing the bug, without breaking other things. Of course, if you believe they do, I've got a bridge or two to sell you. *grin*
[12:08:32] <Colourless> not sure if there was a worm the exploited code red
[12:08:40] <Colourless> but it would have been trivial to make
[12:09:49] <Colourless> i do know that people were manually getting code red infected machine to download and install the patches
[12:11:39] <DarkeZzz> I seem to remember it was called 'Code Green' or something. Anyway, there was one of those 'Is this a good idea?' fusses around that time again. *grin*
[12:12:00] <Colourless> is it a good idea? no, not really
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[16:34:00] <bargeral> Hello, testing... is this thing on?
[16:36:39] <Cahaan> yes
[16:37:16] <bargeral> Oh cool. First time on IRC.
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[16:42:13] <bargeral> Not your bussiest chat is it.
[16:43:00] <Cahaan> what are you talking about ?
[16:43:02] <Cahaan> exult or irc ?
[16:43:05] <bargeral> Exult question: when you change versions. ie pull the snapshot, do you need to start a new game to clear the bugs?
[16:43:15] <Cahaan> dunno
[16:43:21] <Cahaan> (I'm not a dev member btw)
[16:44:10] <bargeral> Hmm, been looking at the chest dup bug. had it and updated to the newest snapshot but still have chests with dups on top. I supposed I had better start a new game and see.
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[17:56:44] <jan_> how do I make wud decompile the _entire_ usecode file?
[17:56:57] <wjp> use '-a' as the function number
[17:57:31] <jan_> thnks
[18:04:40] <jan_> seems like there is a spell book after all.. well
[18:08:17] <jan_> what are intrinsic functions that are "packed"?
[18:08:32] <wjp> packed?
[18:08:51] <jan_> / Packing!!!
[18:08:51] <jan_> USECODE_INTRINSIC_PTR(UNKNOWN), // 0x9c
[18:08:51] <jan_> USECODE_INTRINSIC_PTR(UNKNOWN), // 0x9d UNUSED
[18:08:51] <jan_> USECODE_INTRINSIC_PTR(UNKNOWN), // 0x9e
[18:08:51] <jan_> USECODE_INTRINSIC_PTR(UNKNOWN), // 0x9f
[18:08:51] <jan_> // End Pack
[18:09:01] <jan_> I mean the comment in the file.
[18:09:05] <wjp> not a clue
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[19:18:17] <Dominus> hi
[19:19:16] <wjp> hi
[19:19:58] <Dominus> jan_: as you are looking into this: what is going wrong with the magic sword/moonshade wine list problem?
[19:28:18] <Dominus> oh, and welcome back wjp :-)
[19:28:24] <wjp> thx :-)
[19:38:05] <wjp> oh, I completely missed your comment: "<jan_> seems like there is a spell book after all.. well"
[19:38:09] <wjp> what did you mean?
[19:38:16] <jan_> oh, hi
[19:38:59] <jan_> wjp: there is a mangled spellbook in furnace.. has a different shape.. (and explodes when you pick it up..)
[19:39:08] <jan_> Dominus: what whine?
[19:39:35] <wjp> really?
[19:39:52] <Dominus> your magic sword (one of the party) gets his magic sword exchanged with wine from moonshade
[19:39:59] <jan_> the wine does not seem to be connected with an object you can find.
[19:40:13] <Dominus> Juli the ranger has it then and they speak about it but nothing becomes of it
[19:40:21] <jan_> the magic sword is with the hazard trapper (you get the pinecone)
[19:40:29] <wjp> ah... the ruined spellbook there
[19:41:09] <wjp> "The spellbook! It disintegrated!"
[19:41:24] <jan_> yes, I looked into it but there does not seem to be anymore text related to it inthe usecode. I don't even know what object it might be as all are accounted for it seems
[19:42:00] <wjp> wasn't there a piece of rock from furnace?
[19:42:11] <Dominus> but people talk about the new magic weapon of Julia and I think it got exchanged with wine from there...
[19:42:26] <Dominus> yeah the piece of furnace for the spellbook
[19:42:35] <Dominus> many walkthorughs mention it
[19:42:55] <jan_> yes, the magic sword, you are right..
[19:43:19] <wjp> hm, can't remember people talking about that
[19:43:32] <Dominus> in the distiliery they do
[19:44:41] <jan_> the distillery is buggy IMHO
[19:45:09] <jan_> there is more than one of this one ranger running around for example.. err..ernesto I think his name is
[19:45:13] <Dominus> yeah a lot of cut - text, due to the cut plot
[19:45:56] <Dominus> ernesto it is
[19:49:27] <Dominus> about the piece from furnace, you even hold it in the weapon's hand after the lightning
[19:50:14] <jan_> yes.. but I didnt find the book before
[19:50:40] <Dominus> that'S why I hunted through google last night to find you the exact location of the book
[19:52:08] <jan_> I just rechecked with julias usecode: there is no trace of a dialog to get back your sword
[19:53:17] <jan_> i have the "cut ┤text" document about moonshade but havent read it yet
[19:54:15] * Dominus didn't read it either, beyond the first two sentences
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[19:56:40] <jan_> you might have to use the vibrate spell to get the sword.. maybe they thought it is obvious enough
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[19:59:17] <wjp> probably an oversight
[19:59:22] <jan_> just noticed: ernesto is just a "subfunction" of the normal ranger..
[19:59:27] <jan_> you might have to use the vibrate spell to get the sword.. maybe they thought it is obvious enough
[20:02:06] <wjp> brb
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[20:03:55] <jan_> what is the npc_id? its not the npcnum..
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[20:11:55] <jan_> do you know what an npc_id is?
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[20:19:28] <wjp> wb :-)
[20:19:44] <Dominus> the little one had to go to bed
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[20:40:15] <jan_> ??
[20:40:27] <jan_> oh..
[20:40:39] <wjp> losing track of your other self? :-)
[20:41:31] * jan_ is shizophrenic sometimes..
[20:41:36] <jan_> too much usecode
[20:41:43] <jan_> bbl
[20:41:45] <wjp> I know the feeling :-)
[20:41:50] * jan_ is away: drinking..
[20:41:56] <wjp> I'll go and add your additions to the usecodebugs file in the meantime
[20:42:03] <jan_> thank you
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[22:13:25] <jan_here> hi
[22:13:53] <Dominus> wb
[22:14:03] <wjp> hi again
[22:14:58] <jan_here> I thought a little about th julia and matgic sword issue.. shouldnt there be a body for her in post-shamino mnoonshade? cant you get the swor dof her body then?
[22:15:17] <jan_here> sorry for the orthografie
[22:15:36] <Dominus> let me see if I have a save of that
[22:17:42] <Dominus> she doesn't seem to have it on her in this save...
[22:18:11] <jan_here> america: power failure 2 days ago and already people are suing.
[22:18:26] <wjp> now why doesn't that surprise me :-)
[22:21:58] <jan_here> the hing is.. I can not find her body at all in exult.. where is ist?
[22:22:50] <Dominus> actually I just found out that the vatar or the party does not have a magic sword on them when they arrive...
[22:22:56] <Dominus> bad memory of me...
[22:23:16] <jan_here> so thats why I thought all items were accounted for.
[22:23:24] <Dominus> her body is in the garden wset of the distilery
[22:23:37] <Dominus> but what does get exchanged for the ice-wine?
[22:29:01] <jan_here> I assume just more foodstuff
[22:29:24] <jan_here> you have 2 items of foodstuff when you arrive.. one gets the filari , the other the icewine
[22:30:48] <Dominus> ok, I see
[22:31:06] <Dominus> sorry for sending you on a witch hunt...
[22:32:41] <jan_here> wjp: can you give me a clue about a certain key?
[22:33:34] <wjp> sure
[22:33:52] <jan_here> shape 641, frame 22 qual 121
[22:34:12] <wjp> ugh, popular quality
[22:34:30] <jan_here> found it with some pirates in the northern wastes on an islad in the ice
[22:34:37] <wjp> door at (521,1955)
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[22:35:11] <wjp> also a sliding door at (1641,115)
[22:35:11] <jan_here> lets see where that is..
[22:35:13] <matto|wookin> wo sind meine Deutsche Freunde
[22:35:16] <matto|wookin> hehe
[22:35:18] <jan_here> hier?
[22:35:20] <wjp> (don't think you could lock those, though)
[22:35:20] * matto|wookin winces at his poor Deutsch
[22:35:40] <wjp> so I think that's probably to connect a lever and a door
[22:36:21] <wjp> yes, there are 4 levers with the same quality in the area
[22:37:39] <wjp> anyway, you'll want the first door I mentioned
[22:37:41] <jan_here> hmm, some dungeon
[22:38:50] <jan_here> can I also scroll sideways with the mousewheel somehow?
[22:39:00] <wjp> alt-mousewheel
[22:39:13] <matto|wookin> wanna read something very short that I wrote auf Deutsch? http://www.rulecity.com/~matt/deutsch.txt
[22:39:19] <wjp> how peculiar... that's the door to the goblin hideout
[22:39:22] <matto|wookin> I am wondering whether it makes any sense..
[22:40:13] <jan_here> maybe the other dooe?
[22:40:20] <wjp> unlikely
[22:40:40] <jan_here> why, what is (1641,115)?
[22:40:53] <wjp> it's a sliding door
[22:40:58] <wjp> can't lock those
[22:41:05] <jan_here> oh, I see
[22:41:16] <jan_here> then maybe its a red herring
[22:41:29] <wjp> the key was on a corpse it seems
[22:41:36] <wjp> at (978,479)
[22:42:08] <wjp> ah yes, the shipwreck
[22:42:28] <jan_here> yes, right, thats why I was wondring where it wou÷ld fit
[22:48:58] <jan_here> matto|wookin: that is grammatically correct what you wrote
[22:51:28] <matto|wookin> jan_here thanks
[22:58:40] * wjp sighs... _another_ "delivery failed" mail for something with a spoofed sender address
[22:59:20] <wjp> heh, this one's telling me to stop using outlook :-)
[22:59:38] <Dominus> :-)
[23:01:20] <wjp> anyway, time to go
[23:01:21] <wjp> 'night
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[23:03:20] <jan_here> night
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[23:10:38] <jan_here> why can only 4 people join me.. wasnt that supposed to be 6?
[23:10:42] <jan_here> err 5
[23:11:08] <Dominus> it should be 5
[23:11:24] <jan_here> in total or additionally=
[23:11:25] <jan_here> ?
[23:11:37] <Dominus> just thinking about that myself :-)
[23:14:38] <Dominus> I think it is total, I have no save with more than 5 people in the party
[23:14:57] <Dominus> but I think there was some kind of "cheat" to get an additional member...
[23:19:01] <jan_here> I was just wondering cause I thought you could have 6 (at least in BG)
[23:19:18] <Dominus> n bg you can have 8
[23:43:42] <Dominus> got to go
[23:43:43] <Dominus> bye
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