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[10:04:57] <Dominus> hmm, the forum seems to have some redirection problems
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[21:08:49] <Zirus> ah hay all! :-D
[21:09:02] <Zirus> is anyone alive by any chance?
[21:09:22] <Zirus> I'm having a tough time getting exult to work with my got download of u7 :-(
[21:10:30] <Zirus> i type in this code into my terminal
[21:10:32] <Zirus> sudo mkdir -p "/Library/Application Support/Exult/blackgate" sudo mkdir -p "/Library/Application Support/Exult/serpentisle" sudo cp -p -R "/Volumes/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC" "/Library/Application Support/Exult/blackgate" sudo cp -p -R "/Volumes/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents
[21:10:49] <Zirus> from the page file:///Volumes/Exult%20SVN%20snapshot%20r7452/ReadMe.html#path_config
[21:11:06] <sh4rm4> is that all one line ?
[21:11:18] <Zirus> but i get the error "no such file or directory"
[21:11:29] <Zirus> ah no its not its a paste of all the linbes
[21:11:46] <sh4rm4> well, then find out which line returns the error
[21:11:59] <sh4rm4> then you know which file is missing
[21:12:19] <Zirus> i have, its this line
[21:12:21] <Zirus> sudo cp -p -R "/Volumes/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC" "/Library/Application Support/Exult/blackgate"
[21:12:34] <Dominus> hi Zirus
[21:12:43] <Dominus> did you mount the gog dmg?
[21:12:47] <Zirus> but the path and "STATIC" folder exist :-s
[21:13:10] <Zirus> I've tried it mounted and copy/pasted the app into my applications folder
[21:13:17] <sh4rm4> spaces in filenames - always fun
[21:13:42] <sh4rm4> so does this work?
[21:13:50] <sh4rm4> ls "/Volumes/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC"
[21:14:25] <Zirus> you want me to copy paste that into my terminal?
[21:14:37] <Dominus> yes
[21:14:41] <Zirus> ok sec
[21:15:26] * Dominus is downloading the latest dmg from gog, maybe they changed stuff
[21:15:37] <Zirus> it hangs at the end so i press enter and i get the same error, no such file or directory
[21:15:51] <sh4rm4> so that filename is wrong
[21:16:20] * Dominus sighs
[21:16:27] <Dominus> yes, the volume name changed
[21:16:40] <Zirus> ahhh
[21:16:47] <Zirus> dont ya just love it when they do that heheh
[21:17:53] <Zirus> the only diff i could see was that ultima7 folder is capitalised as ULTIMA7 so i changed that in the line then pasted it into terminal but that didn't help
[21:18:12] <Dominus> so replace /Volumes/Ultima 7 the complete edition/ with /Volumes/Ultima 7/
[21:18:49] <Dominus> sudo cp -p -R "/Volumes/Ultima 7/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC" "/Library/Application Support/Exult/blackgate"
[21:19:21] <Dominus> what a nice path that is :)
[21:19:30] <Zirus> ok testin now
[21:19:48] <Dominus> same difference for SI, btw
[21:19:51] <sh4rm4> Dominus, is your midi patch already in svn ?
[21:19:58] <Dominus> yes
[21:20:46] <Zirus> wtf? it asked me for my pass so i was assuming it was working, put my pass in n pressed entrée n got:-
[21:20:48] <Zirus> cp: /Volumes/Ultima 7/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC: No such file or directory
[21:20:59] <Dominus> sh4rm4: you might enjoy http://dietagespresse.com/geheime-sms-rekrutierte-spindelegger-seine-neuen-minister/
[21:22:09] <Dominus> Zirus: some path is more wronf, let me check... :)
[21:22:21] <Zirus> okie dokie :-)
[21:23:06] <Dominus> ah, got it. It's now Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.boxer not Ultima VII The Complete Edition.boxer
[21:23:14] <Dominus> bah
[21:23:25] <sh4rm4> gog sucks
[21:23:42] <Zirus> ok testing niow
[21:24:01] <Dominus> sudo cp -p -R "/Volumes/Ultima 7/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.app/Contents/Resources/Ultima 7 The Complete Edition.boxer/C.harddisk/U7/ultima7/STATIC" "/Library/Application Support/Exult/blackgate"
[21:24:18] <Dominus> gog suck but it sucks good
[21:24:31] <Zirus> works!
[21:24:39] <Dominus> Great!
[21:24:50] <Dominus> Now I need to fix the documentation...
[21:24:54] <Dominus> thanks gog
[21:24:59] <Zirus> ill edit the second fucked line too
[21:25:16] <Zirus> don't forget the second lines! :-)
[21:25:17] <sh4rm4> actually you now need 2 paragrahps in your documentation
[21:25:26] <sh4rm4> gog edition A and gog edition B
[21:25:33] <Dominus> Zirus: thanks for showing up and asking. I'd never thought they changed it
[21:25:58] <Dominus> sh4rm4: nope, this time, I'm just saying get the latest download
[21:26:05] <Zirus> yeah man worked out well all round :-D
[21:28:25] <Zirus> exult has now booted and is worked all good!!!
[21:28:30] <Zirus> thx loads man! :-D
[21:28:44] <Dominus> I'm glad it works :)
[21:30:49] <sh4rm4> does gog ship dosbox together with ultima for mac ?
[21:30:57] <Dominus> kind of
[21:31:10] <Dominus> they use Boxer which is a fork
[21:31:27] <sh4rm4> i c
[21:31:35] <sh4rm4> wonder if that's all legal
[21:31:39] <Dominus> got some gui enhancements for DOSBox but the author can be a dick about it
[21:31:46] <Dominus> it's perfectly legal
[21:31:50] <sh4rm4> because for example dosbox uses the original IBM font
[21:32:29] <Dominus> as for using DOSBox it's legal, how DOSBox gets the IBM font, I don't know
[21:36:43] <Zirus> just to check in again, running great and this shit is WAY better than the default got dosbox version hehe :-D
[21:36:48] <Zirus> love the paper dolls!
[21:37:07] <Dominus> :)
[21:37:22] <Zirus> 2 quick questions though, just to double check but the vanishing item bug is fixed correct?
[21:37:43] <Dominus> after years of playing with Exult I can barely use the original, because I'm hardwired to the new keyboard shortcuts
[21:37:47] <sh4rm4> with high probability
[21:37:54] <Dominus> Zirus: you got the snapshot? then yes
[21:38:09] <sh4rm4> a serious mem corruption bug was fixed and since there were no reports about missing items
[21:38:19] <Zirus> wickeD :-D
[21:38:38] <sh4rm4> it's still buggy enough though...
[21:38:47] <sh4rm4> but the real ultima is buggy as well...
[21:38:58] <Zirus> the other one i heard was npcs not doing all their cool extra stuff like (i think) closing windows if it rains etc?
[21:39:27] <Dominus> most of the stuff they do
[21:39:34] <Zirus> is that sorted?
[21:39:51] <Dominus> they open close windows
[21:40:00] <sh4rm4> Dominus, is there a shortcut for running ? like SHIFT+mousedown or SHIFT+UP or so ?
[21:40:01] <Zirus> ah right ok, do ya know which things they don't do?
[21:40:07] <Dominus> just not when it rains, but the original didn't do that as well
[21:40:29] <Zirus> as in, things they did in the original but don't do in the exult version?
[21:41:03] <Dominus> Zirus: I don't know for sure, probably a couple of things
[21:41:24] <Dominus> the only one I'm sure of is that the blacksmithing schedule is much more elaborate in the original
[21:41:32] <Dominus> Marzo wanted to fix that :)
[21:41:35] * Dominus hides
[21:43:03] <Dominus> sh4rm4: since you use the mouse and the length of the green arrow determines your speed, no
[21:43:28] <Dominus> there is only shift to slow down the keyboard movement
[21:43:30] <sh4rm4> well, that arrow is not available when using the cursor
[21:43:31] <Zirus> sounds like the exult lcksmithy is better then hehe
[21:43:45] <sh4rm4> and using it with the mouse can be annoying as well
[21:43:52] <Zirus> ======
[21:44:05] <sh4rm4> i would prefer holding down a key over driving the mouse around over the whole table
[21:44:23] <Dominus> sh4rm4: fix your system
[21:44:30] <sh4rm4> how ?
[21:44:33] <Dominus> the cursor should be visible at all times
[21:44:40] <sh4rm4> well it is visible
[21:44:49] <sh4rm4> but it has no effect when you use cursor-up etc
[21:45:02] <sh4rm4> (on the keyboard)
[21:45:24] <Dominus> ah, you mean keyboard movement
[21:45:35] <sh4rm4> aye
[21:46:04] <Dominus> ok, basics, the mouse cursor length determines the speed when you are moving with the mouse
[21:46:37] <sh4rm4> yes, and it only gets long on the far outer zone
[21:46:49] <sh4rm4> so you have to move the mouse much further
[21:47:16] <Dominus> the keys just make you run, the directions of the keys, the mouse cursor plays no role there
[21:47:32] <Dominus> with shift+keys you walk
[21:48:01] <sh4rm4> with just keys as well
[21:48:09] <sh4rm4> you never run when using the keyboard
[21:48:14] <Dominus> no, you run
[21:48:35] <sh4rm4> well, maybe at 2nd speed, but not on 3rd speed
[21:48:37] <Dominus> I have no clue why your system runs Exult so dog slow
[21:49:08] <sh4rm4> (there are 3 different walking speeds, i consider anything except the fastest one as slow)
[21:49:26] <Dominus> yes and shift+keys uses the 2nd, just keys the 3rd
[21:50:00] <Dominus> just tried it
[21:50:32] <sh4rm4> oh indeed
[21:50:55] <sh4rm4> however running seems to not work when enemies are around
[21:51:31] <Dominus> Zirus: about black smithing, when you watch it in the original they have some extra moves like filling up the water basin with water from the well. we don't do that. we just fill it up magically
[21:51:50] <Dominus> sh4rm4: yes, you can't easily outrun enemies - you can but not easily
[21:57:19] <Dominus> guys is the forum working for you?
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[22:36:43] <sh4rm4> nope
[22:40:24] <sh4rm4> Dominus, i think you should just make another release
[22:40:35] <sh4rm4> there will always be bugs