#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 19 Nov 2012 (GMT)

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[14:55:50] <Dominus> Malignant, your patch doesn't work. seems the change comes too late and old settings are used.
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[18:46:22] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus, http://pastebin.com/5csgJsBP
[18:47:34] <Malignant_Manor> I'm not sure how you would create a Windows shortcut through the installer though.
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[21:41:12] <TheCycoONE> What do you guys use to make installers?
[21:41:54] <Malignant_Manor> inno installer on Windows
[21:44:21] <Malignant_Manor> Sorry, it's Inno Setup http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
[21:44:49] <TheCycoONE> ah, I've heard of it but haven't used it - that's what gog uses right.
[21:45:01] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah
[21:45:29] <TheCycoONE> In wix or orca you have to make a custom action for it, but I'm sure anything higher level would just have a shortcut type or section.
[21:46:31] <TheCycoONE> sorry
[21:49:47] <Dominus> Malignant_Manor: this one works now. could even work without the return 1; since people who reset it probably want t start it anew anyway. Or am I overlooking something?
[21:50:17] <Malignant_Manor> I didn't know whether or not it needed it.
[21:50:34] <Dominus> without it exult starts with the reset stuff
[21:50:58] <Malignant_Manor> change needed to desirable
[21:51:00] <Dominus> with it, exult just changes the settings and quits right away
[21:51:07] <Malignant_Manor> remove it if you want
[21:51:44] <Malignant_Manor> Looking at the installer script, I think I can add a shortcut easily but I need to check if it supports parameters.
[21:51:59] <Dominus> as for the shortcut,in exult_installer.iss in the [Icons] seems to be the right place
[21:52:10] <Dominus> :)
[21:52:13] <Malignant_Manor> That is the right place.
[21:52:25] <Dominus> yes, was just thinking as well whether it supports parameters
[21:53:05] <Dominus> if not we could add a batch file
[21:56:20] <Dominus> Malignant_Manor:http://www.jrsoftware.org/ishelp/
[21:56:33] <Dominus> http://www.jrsoftware.org/ishelp/topic_iconssection.htm
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[21:56:50] <Dominus> Parameters: "/play filename.mid"
[21:57:19] <Dominus> in our case Parameters: "--reset-video"
[22:01:30] <Dominus> hmm, seems exconfig.cc is out of date with some cfg settings
[22:03:15] <Dominus> probably is also the culprit of the problem when you leave the SI Path blank in the installer. Over my head though :)
[22:05:43] <Malignant_Manor> I have no idea why 640x480 is default instead of 640x400 since right now it leaves black bars.
[22:07:18] <Dominus> yes, I wondered about that too. Perhaps because *just maybe* 640x480 is more commonly supported in fullscreen than 640x400
[22:07:43] <Dominus> Colourless, might know :)
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[22:08:13] <Dominus> maybe to showcase that the status thingies can be drwan beneath the game window
[22:11:07] <Dominus> are you planing to commit that patch or should I do it? I'm hesitant on the shortcut, though, since I can't test it. And it may need another icon than the exult one...
[22:13:07] <Malignant_Manor> This works but it uses the Exult icon (like you said, this may be an issue) http://pastebin.com/h1nSi26W
[22:14:48] <Malignant_Manor> Using the same icon probably isn't a big deal though.
[22:15:02] <Dominus> oh well, at least the name is so different to Exult... :)
[22:15:28] <Malignant_Manor> The name is "reset video settings"
[22:15:28] <Dominus> Maybe grouping it after the uninstall icon
[22:15:38] <Dominus> yes, I noticed
[22:16:08] <Dominus> then again, grouping it after the uninstaller could be considered bad practice
[22:18:05] <Malignant_Manor> I don't know why it goes there. I thought it would go in order but that doesn't happen.
[22:18:19] <Dominus> oh, it doesn't?
[22:18:33] <Dominus> can't test the Windows stuff
[22:19:22] <Malignant_Manor> Even though I put it after Exult and before the installer, it goes after the installer.
[22:21:39] <Dominus> strange
[22:30:26] <Malignant_Manor> You can add a Mac shortcut and commit if you want.
[22:34:32] <Dominus> the iss, too? Not gonna add an OS X shortcut. But I'm gonna writ it to the Documentation tomorrow and add a FAQ point on how to reset the video settings on Windows,, OS X and *nix
[22:35:17] <Malignant_Manor> You could. I'm not sure how to change the icon.
[22:36:15] <Dominus> we *could* go for a system icon but we can as well leave it the way it is
[22:37:34] <Dominus> something in shell32.dll or so but again I'm not sure whether this is good practice
[22:48:23] * Dominus wonders why we actually add a start menu setting when the newest Windows doesn't have a start menu anymore :)
[22:52:12] <Dominus> thanks Malignant_Manor for doing this
[22:52:56] <Malignant_Manor> I have no idea how Windows 8 handles things.
[22:53:09] <Dominus> me neither
[22:53:34] <Dominus> but the place where these things are stored is most likely still there
[22:54:06] <Dominus> that's why Stardock is making easy money now with their startmenu program :)
[22:54:36] <Malignant_Manor> Tens of thousands of people have paid for one $5 app to restore the start menu.
[22:55:04] <Dominus> yeah, easy money
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