#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 1 Jan 2002 (GMT)

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[01:05:21] <wjp> hi & happy new year
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[08:31:37] <Blackbird> hi exultbot
[08:31:50] <Blackbird> exultbot: hi
[08:31:50] <exultbot> Hi Blackbird!
[08:32:14] <Blackbird> exultbot: where is wjp?
[08:32:21] <Blackbird> :-)
[08:32:28] <Blackbird> Darke: you awake?
[08:33:22] <Blackbird> nevermind... guess everyone is idle... I'll come back l8r
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[08:36:06] * Darke prods Blackbird to wait a few more seconds (60 might be nice!) next time. <grin>
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[09:35:53] <Wumpus> mmmm
[09:36:00] <Darke> Hello Wumpus! <bow>
[09:36:04] <Wumpus> hellllo
[09:36:22] <Wumpus> are you playing either BG or SI at all? :P
[09:36:28] * Wumpus thinks current CVS is b0rked
[09:37:34] <Darke> Trying to. I was trying to debug the Gem/Orb of Moons problem, except whenever I create a game and save it, when I load it, exult dies. Sometimes with a SDL parachute, sometimes with a core-less corefile.
[09:38:08] <Wumpus> hmm yeah, i'm currently getting assert()s when i load a game from a save, but not when i journey onwards
[09:38:15] * Darke has core file generation turned off for some reason. He needs to work out how to turn it back on.
[09:38:23] <Wumpus> ulimit ?
[09:38:29] * Darke nods. Journey onwords works perfectly.
[09:38:32] <Wumpus> ulimit -c unlimited , if thats how you "turned it off"
[09:38:52] <Wumpus> (well, that may not work, if you've managed to set a hard limit.... but it should generally :P)
[09:39:49] <Darke> Thanks. I'm checking it out now.
[09:40:23] <Wumpus> but in my case its SDL thats usually causing cores not to happend, not ulimit :| *sigh* evil
[09:40:31] <Darke> `ulimit -c` return 0... I'm guessing that may be the problem
[09:40:54] <Wumpus> hehe yeah :-) hence, you shuld be able to do ulimit -c unlimited
[09:40:59] <Wumpus> \emph{should} :-)
[09:41:29] <Darke> It seems to have worked. <grin> Now I just need to generate some corefiles.
[09:41:54] * Wumpus finds it easier just to attach the debugger and catch the segfault or whatever that way
[09:42:14] * Wumpus smacks SDL
[09:42:21] * Darke nods and grins.
[09:42:31] * Wumpus has a seedy fix for something thats been nagging me for a while :)
[09:43:52] <Wumpus> took me a while to work out how to reproduce it: throw a 'boomerang' at an opponent. Kill the opponent before the boomerang hits. boomerang doesn't come back.... finding *where* to fix it is easy, finding a good way to fix it is... well... what i've done makes sense, but still not entirely happy :P
[09:44:04] <Wumpus> s/boomerang/any "returning" throwing weapons/
[09:44:41] * Darke nods. Nice! That's something quite a few people have complained about.
[09:44:52] <Wumpus> it is? on the forum?
[09:45:09] * Wumpus didn't notice it on the traqer :P
[09:45:13] <Darke> <nod> On the forum, it was a while back though.
[09:45:44] <Wumpus> oh... yeah, i noticed it a while back myself, but didn't make anything of it since I wasn't sure... but after i lost the juggernaut hammer that way, i decided to investigate :-)
[09:46:08] * Wumpus ambles towards the trackers
[09:48:27] <Wumpus> ohhh lol
[09:48:34] * Wumpus sees what you mean with the orb... hehe thats nasty
[09:49:06] <Darke> The thing is, I haven't been able to reproduce it, no matter what I do.
[09:49:11] <Wumpus> have you checked the orb of the moons thing against the original?
[09:49:15] <Wumpus> ohh
[09:49:17] <Wumpus> hmm, interesting
[09:49:24] <Darke> (With latest cvs that is, I don't remember what version he was using.)
[09:49:26] <Wumpus> maybe the guy submitting it is smoking something? :P
[09:49:38] <Wumpus> hmm, there's no file attached :|
[09:51:04] <Darke> Nope. Apparently he could reproduce it following those steps. I followed those steps (along with a sidetrip into a dragons lair to extract a few gems in god mode), and nothing happened. Trying it without any gems carried gets the standard jeweler complaint, and no missing Orb.
[09:51:21] <Darke> (That is, the orb is still in my backpack/hand.)
[10:07:05] <Wumpus> debugging is so much easier to follow when you get rid of all the inline crap :)
[10:07:15] * Darke grins.
[10:10:48] <Wumpus> yaaay it works
[10:10:53] <Wumpus> sample size = 1 :P
[10:11:04] <Wumpus> actually, thats not too bad, given that i had got it to reproduce perfectly...
[10:11:04] <Wumpus> :P
[10:11:23] <Darke> <grin> Cool.
[10:12:28] <Wumpus> hey wow
[10:12:32] <Wumpus> lndir "knows" about CVS
[10:12:50] * Darke earperks.
[10:13:42] <Wumpus> (it doesn't link CVS stuff or RCS stuff or a few other bits and pieces which you probably don't want linked)
[10:14:14] <Darke> Nice.
[10:15:25] * Wumpus segfaulted ddd yesterday, hehe :)
[10:15:51] <Darke> Err... impressive... I think. <grin>
[10:16:10] <Wumpus> (just a gui to gdb)
[10:16:20] <Wumpus> i think gdb lived through it though, it was just the gui bit that died... i think
[10:18:08] * Wumpus looks at the tracker and hmms
[10:32:10] <Wumpus> bah
[10:32:21] <Wumpus> i'm in the bug tracker 10 times again already, and i haven't even been trying all that hard :P
[10:32:45] <Wumpus> mind you, two haev patches attached :)
[10:37:00] * Darke grins and nods.
[10:44:35] <Wumpus> why has spark's ass turned into algebraic number theory?
[10:45:12] * Wumpus smells a phorum glitch
[10:45:57] <Darke> Nah. It's smells of Colourless and wjp. <grin> Check the irc logs for a couple of days ago.
[10:46:16] <Wumpus> ah okay hehe :)
[10:46:41] * Wumpus umms at the most recent item in the thread
[10:46:51] * Wumpus walks away, knowing just why he gave up on the forum
[10:47:33] * Darke boggles, then giggles. I can understand completely.
[10:51:23] <Darke> The second to last post is also erronous. I know Dolphins do, and I think most of the sea mammals do too.
[10:53:26] <Wumpus> lol
[10:53:28] <Wumpus> thats BS
[10:53:48] <Wumpus> some species of apes are at it all the time for fun :)
[10:54:05] <Wumpus> species <-- is that the right word in this context?
[10:54:20] * Darke grins and noddles. It's correct as far as he knows.
[10:54:40] * Wumpus doesn't remember all that terminology stuff, its been too long :)
[10:54:49] <Wumpus> since 4U science at high school :)
[10:56:09] * Darke nods, he did biology as a subject (along with Chem and Physics) in high school, so it's not _that_ long ago for him. <grin>
[10:56:24] <Wumpus> hehe 5 years for me :)
[10:56:31] <Wumpus> so not that long :P but who wants to remember that :)
[10:56:38] <Darke> <grin> About the same for me.
[10:57:03] * Darke _loves_ science, he at least wants to remember it. <grin>
[11:04:22] <Wumpus> oh yeah, science in genearl, sure, but biology etc was never my thing ,especially all that categorisation stuff
[11:14:44] * Darke nods, he doesn't remember much of the latin names and catagories either.
[11:19:12] <Wumpus> i need some brain dead game to play when i don't feel like getting distracted into hacking all the time (which is what exult is doing to me at the moment :P)
[11:19:30] * Wumpus has D2, thats nice and brain dead, but i've finished it once, and not sure i can be bothered playing agani
[11:27:29] <Wumpus> grr, darke, wahts the jeweler's NPC id?
[11:27:34] * Wumpus having difficulty getting him to show up :P
[11:27:54] <Wumpus> (dun worry if you don't know, just thought you might have been looking at his usecode)
[11:36:22] <Wumpus> 59 btw :)
[11:36:46] * Wumpus declares that it works for him, hehe
[11:43:24] <Wumpus> oh
[11:43:26] <Wumpus> i see
[11:43:37] <Wumpus> the problem is that the guy doesn't recognise the orb of the moons :)
[11:43:49] <Wumpus> its the crystal that LB gives you to observe the FoV that the jewelr buys off you
[11:48:56] * Darke eeps and apologieses for being a bit too idle.
[11:49:03] <Wumpus> hehe :)
[11:49:10] <Darke> Ahh... Ok, that makes sense.
[11:50:26] * Darke agrees Diablo 2 is quite brain dead. But is fun, for all it's 'braindededness'.
[11:50:32] <Wumpus> indeed
[11:50:41] <Wumpus> brain dead stuff is great :)
[11:51:42] <Darke> It's the sort of thing you play whilst reading an interesting irc conversation or something, when you're talking rarely. Or when you're almost completely asleep. <grin>
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[12:20:29] <Colourless> hello
[12:21:46] <Wumpus> hullo :)
[12:38:43] <Wumpus> bleh
[12:39:08] <Wumpus> when you get "can't reach" in ultima, the correct solution is: Alt-D the wall :-)
[12:39:14] <Colourless> you complain about the untrackable conversations that take place here?
[12:39:30] <Wumpus> I do?
[12:39:46] <Colourless> you were 'too' fast with your second comment
[12:39:59] <Colourless> i was replying to the 'bleh'
[12:40:07] <Wumpus> oh :-)
[12:50:15] * Darke unidles again and notices Colourless has arrived, he must have been lulled into a false sense of 'quietness' on the channel, because of the last couple of days. <grin>
[12:51:01] <Colourless> 'bout time
[12:51:19] * Darke grins.
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[13:54:00] <Wumpus> sleep for little michael, good night all
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[14:10:48] * Darke notices that he hasn't been lulled into a false sense of 'quietness' it really is quiet tonight. <grin>
[14:11:09] * Colourless roars!
[14:18:34] * Darke yawnfluffs.
[14:18:43] <Colourless> QUIT!
[14:18:49] <Colourless> QUIET! i meanb
[14:18:59] * Colourless stops before he makes a fool of himself
[14:19:15] * Darke thinks that it's just a _little_ too late for that.
[14:20:54] * matto leaps through the outer window, shattering glass. As the startled Darke desperately tries to make sense of the situation, matto douses him in liquid fluff and pastes a sign on his forehead that says 'Happy New Year'. And then, quick as a fox, he is gone.
[14:21:12] * Darke thinks he can't really complain, he's been typoing like crazy tonight. 'Mental' chains for one.
[14:22:05] * Darke blinkityblinks and looks weirdly at the departing matto, as he removes the sign from his forehead. What an odd little creature.
[14:22:41] <Darke> Oh, yes, and a Hoppy New Year to you. <bowfluff>
[14:22:53] <matto> hoppy? that's terribly clever, Darke :)
[14:23:03] <Colourless> hehe
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[14:24:22] <matto> lol
[14:27:05] * Darke checks his logs and grins. "I enjoy being terribly clever. However it isn't my joke, just a repeated one from another bun."
[14:27:55] <Colourless> as I said, a little 'too' clever :-)
[14:28:20] * Darke looks innocent.
[14:31:36] <matto> who else said it?
[14:34:35] <Darke> SharpTooth's doefriend, who goes by the name of Easter. And if I have to point out that 'little' pun with her name, I obviously am a little 'too' clever. <grin>
[14:35:56] <matto> Easter, eh?
[14:37:14] * Darke nods, Easter.
[14:43:47] * matto has finished reading the latest updates on the new Math thread
[14:43:59] <matto> I was wondering how a math thread could generate 175 posts
[14:44:09] <Colourless> well, it can't
[14:44:11] * Darke wonders _why_. <grin>
[14:44:31] <matto> I was also wondering about suraimu's post confessing to having 100 pictures of naked boys hehe
[14:44:42] <Colourless> of course if 2 admins get bored one evening, anything can happen :-)
[14:44:59] <Colourless> or just one such as suraimu's post :-)
[14:45:14] <matto> hehehe
[14:45:27] <Colourless> i must confess to exactly what i did, i changed just 1 word in the post
[14:45:34] * Darke is glad he doesn't have admin, he's bored most evenings.
[14:46:23] <Colourless> originally the answer to the question was something like centiphile or something similar so i just changed it to "ME!!!!!!!" :-)
[14:46:36] <matto> hehehe
[14:46:37] <matto> ah ha ...
[14:46:42] <matto> I thought you altered the original question
[14:46:56] <Colourless> nope, the question is the same
[14:47:27] <Darke> "And, No, I do not abuse my moderator abilities.
[14:47:37] <Darke> Surrrrre! You don't!
[14:47:44] <Colourless> of course not
[14:48:40] <Darke> You're just the righteous eliminator of incredibly bad puns. <grin>
[14:48:58] <Colourless> and what a noble thing to do as well
[14:49:49] * Darke is glad he hasn't posted on the forums in a while, other then 'help' posts, most of his posts have been puns. <grin>
[14:50:40] <Darke> Which reminds me. We haven't seen many yells for help recently on the forums... think we've actually got things to the point where almost anyone can get it installed and working? <grin>
[15:28:56] * Darke giggles at the accidental wallop.
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[17:18:46] <Colourless> going, bye
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[17:20:23] * Darke bows, he must go too. "Bye matto!" <grin>
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