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[14:06:46] <Jammet> Hej there =^_^=
[14:07:01] * Jammet hops in, taking a quick look left & right.
[14:07:30] <Jammet> =^_^= I think I got a problem here, and it's about Exult.
[14:09:49] <Jammet> I'm playing Serpent Isle, and I arrived in Moonshade. After wandering about everywhere as far as I could, and because I still had swamp boots with me, I collected lots of bloodmoss. Now, after days without anything changing about what the chars say, I read up in a walkthrough that - somebody should have been asking me for the bloodmoss, or that I should have offered them to somebody. Porthos ...
[14:09:55] <Jammet> ... that is.
[14:10:18] <Jammet> But Porthos won't mention them anymore, and I can't just give em or sell em to him, and so, the story is stuck. I think.
[14:10:48] <Jammet> In order for him to do something special, he should have me give him the bloodmoss. But he ain't doing that.
[14:11:05] <Jammet> All just because I collected it before I was being asked to.
[14:11:22] <sbx> did you do the banquet?
[14:11:45] <sbx> oops thats after that
[14:11:45] <sbx> ask bucia about erstam
[14:11:48] <Jammet> Yup, that banquet happened just before this.
[14:12:24] <Jammet> I believe I already asked all about Erstam but I shall seek her out. =)
[14:12:41] <sbx> bucia or her boss
[14:12:41] <sbx> and then ask porthos
[14:12:50] <Jammet> Okay...
[14:13:11] <Jammet> Porthos said something about how he'd give up his greatest secret for the bloodmoss...
[14:13:20] * Jammet puts the walkthrough away, hate spoilers, but I had to make sure.
[14:13:57] * Jammet puts away the rotten egg as Bucia get's the smell again.
[14:14:17] <sbx> hehe
[14:14:46] <Jammet> Just one thing - is it really normal that one of the automaton just happily joins my party? =)
[14:15:10] <sbx> my list says flag 0xdc is set if you can tell porthos you know about erstam, so you can set that from the cheat screen... but try to do it the normal way
[14:15:19] <sbx> did you ask him?
[14:15:44] <sbx> i think there was one in rotoluncias that would?
[14:15:47] <Jammet> Well I asked him, and I was pretty surprised at that. It's like talking to a person you meet on the sidewalk, "Hey, join me?" "Yeah, sure."
[14:16:18] * Jammet needs a couple of mins for Bucia now. =)
[14:16:30] <sbx> I don't remember getting any automatons to join me at that part of the agme.
[14:16:46] <sbx> game*
[14:17:40] <Jammet> Well, he just did. It's my first visit to Moonshade, no cheating of course (disabled and all).
[14:17:54] <Jammet> All I had to do is was to ask him.
[14:18:58] <Jammet> Argh, she wants to talk to me later, again.
[14:19:10] <Jammet> I didn't get to mention Erstam.
[14:19:23] <sbx> IIRC All of them should be tied to owners with the exception of one at Rotoluncia's, the ones that are "inactive" at Torrissio's, and the one that approaches you at some point, but he walks away.
[14:20:14] <sbx> you can also talk to her boss about it
[14:21:16] <Jammet> The first savegame after I had the automaton join me is where I'm getting some clothes for him to wear. Basically he can't do much in a battle so I keep him in the back and use him to carry all sorts of thing.
[14:21:34] <sbx> the guy that traveled with you from the sleeping bull inn
[14:21:55] <Jammet> Since I found this Necromancer, I picked up a dead ranger's body in case that one can be brought back to life. I also saw a ghost in a ruined building.
[14:22:04] <Jammet> Yup, I'll talk to him.
[14:22:54] <Jammet> Flindo.
[14:24:11] <Jammet> Other things that made me wonder was the imprisoned Naga and a Goblin woman, both unresponsive.
[14:24:47] <sbx> thats in the original too
[14:24:52] <Jammet> Okay.
[14:26:06] <Jammet> Okay, there was another reference to ask Porthos. Seen it before but maybe after that I sometime loaded a savegame so the option to mention the Mad Mage never turned up with Porthos. =)
[14:27:26] <sbx> hopefully
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[14:29:50] <Jammet> Now Porthis left his store ...
[14:29:58] * Jammet goes find him.
[14:30:20] <sbx> that bastard
[14:30:20] <sbx> loot it
[14:30:21] <Jammet> It's only 4:20 pm.
[14:30:50] <Jammet> The chests are locked ... I might want to take a look inside but normally I don't take stuff. Except keys.
[14:31:11] <wjp> It's a common 'problem' in SI. You need to talk to Bucia about Porthos before the bloodmoss quest shows up
[14:31:24] <sbx> he probably went to eat
[14:31:33] <Jammet> Not in the Blue Boar.
[14:31:52] <Jammet> Mew wjp =^_^=
[14:33:22] <Jammet> I guess I'll wait in his store for a while.
[14:33:48] <sbx> there is an easter egg near porthos'
[14:34:12] <Jammet> =^_^= Can things get any better than with Bucia and the blue egg?
[14:35:06] <sbx> those damned security droids
[14:35:38] <sbx> she doesn't like certain smelly party members either
[14:36:21] <Jammet> Seems like me, Dupre, Shamino, The Thing + Iolo are clean enough...
[14:37:20] <Jammet> Wow, he's got a glass sword in his storage.
[14:37:28] <Jammet> Of course, locked up.
[14:38:02] <sbx> try the key?
[14:38:11] <Jammet> I tried all I have.
[14:38:18] <sbx> did you find any keys in his place?
[14:38:18] <sbx> there should be 2
[14:38:33] <Jammet> =^_^= Um, no I haven't.
[14:38:36] <sbx> maybe im thinking of someplace else :)
[14:38:42] <Jammet> (Though, please no more hints there)
[14:38:49] <sbx> try a swift kick? :0
[14:38:49] <sbx> :)
[14:39:27] <sbx> Sorry, I knew that would be saying too much.
[14:39:46] <sbx> Though I don't think is a plot relavent.
[14:40:14] <Jammet> Yup... I really am trying hard to have lots and lots of patience to wander about aimlessy sometimes, and so far, I managed on my own =).
[14:40:22] <Jammet> It's just with Porthos I didn't...
[14:40:24] <Jammet> BRB
[14:41:31] <sbx> I don't like using walkthroughs either
[14:42:34] <Jammet> I promised myself I would get through this =^_^=.
[14:43:20] <Jammet> When I started this game, that was Nov 2001 ... I have savegames through 2001-today. This time it was a restart, and I just gotta keep going.
[14:43:37] <sbx> eek
[14:43:49] <sbx> that's dedication
[14:44:10] <sbx> I still need to finish my Fallout2 game from April
[14:44:13] <Jammet> That ought to, like, the biggest game I have ever gone through and enjoyed.
[14:44:32] <Jammet> Oh yes, Fallout ... that's still waiting for me. =)
[14:45:16] <Jammet> Sometimes I wonder how people can literally run through games like this. Like, it takes them one week and that's it.
[14:45:32] <Jammet> While I'm enjoying the scenery, babble with people, collect stuff, build a house...
[14:45:58] <sbx> after waiting a while it is difficult to get your bearings and continue where you left off, unless you have extensive notes
[14:46:15] <Jammet> Yeah... =/
[14:46:16] <sbx> it took me almost a month to go through SI
[14:46:34] <sbx> about one month
[14:46:34] <sbx> february to be exact :)
[14:46:46] <Jammet> I had no notes left, but it's all coming back to me. Well most is. Luckily Moonshade, where I left off, there doesn't seem to be all that much to do in comparision.
[14:48:03] <Jammet> Things mentally notied down: revive dead guy if possible, summon that skeleton spirit once more. Meet the ruin spirit with the Necromancer or with spells he taught me. Get off the Island and keep following Gwenno & Batlin.
[14:48:59] <Jammet> I still have to get a spellbook, still have to go to Monk Isle to get fresh roots for that.
[14:49:21] <Jammet> And for all this to work, I need to get to talk to the Mad Mage Erstam who can teleport around at will.
[14:51:26] <sbx> That sounds detailed enough. Did you find out where Gwenno went?
[14:51:37] <Jammet> To Monk Isle, so I was told.
[14:52:22] <Jammet> Wow, Porthos sure takes his time.
[14:52:28] <sbx> Ah, so that's on the route anyway. :)
[14:52:35] <Jammet> Right =)
[14:53:25] <Jammet> I'll sleep in his bed. Hope he kicks me out of it soon enough.
[14:54:08] <sbx> they didn't even do that in the original SI
[14:54:24] <Jammet> Oh well, there's always hope ;).
[14:54:27] <sbx> but I think they did in BG so exult does it
[14:54:48] <Jammet> I noticed I could sleep in the Blue Boar every night without paying so ...
[14:56:27] <Jammet> No way.. he won't show up in his store. I can't go back to the banquet hall either. They locked it again.
[14:56:37] <sbx> Oh, so that's your excuse. "Hey, nobody stopped me so I thought rooms were free!"
[14:56:37] <Jammet> I'll have to search everywhere.
[14:56:58] <Jammet> Kind of, yeah. I needed a key for the first night, but after that, the door was left wide open. =)
[14:58:27] <Jammet> By the way, I wonder what's up with the beach with all the nude women ... hope they play their part later in the game.
[14:59:14] <Jammet> I came across something strange when I was there that made me reload the savegame. Some weird guy wanted to break out with me from a dungeon. I probably got too close to him or so, I bet he came right through the mountain wall.
[15:02:06] <sbx> erm
[15:02:06] <sbx> thats a bug
[15:02:15] <sbx> maybe that's why porthos isn't anywhere to be found
[15:02:36] <sbx> who was it?
[15:02:56] <sbx> oh
[15:02:56] <sbx> nm that's someone else, now I remember
[15:02:56] <sbx> still a bug
[15:03:01] <Jammet> I forgot his name. I could try to persuade the game to try this again... press myself against the wall looking for secret entrances, play the music box..
[15:03:04] <sbx> but shouldn't affect porthos
[15:03:15] <sbx> hehe don't do that again
[15:03:36] <sbx> I forgot you reloaded
[15:03:47] <Jammet> I'll concentrate on finding Porthos but I have no clue where he's hanging out usually.
[15:04:00] <Jammet> Not home, not in the store, not in the Blue Boar ...
[15:04:44] <sbx> The beach with the nude women... that's just a little side attraction unfortunately. Nothing more to it.
[15:05:18] <Jammet> I just happened to find one of those keys you mentioned.
[15:06:01] * Jammet locks the guard out of the store room and looks around.
[15:06:32] <sbx> hehe
[15:06:32] <sbx> did you already do the banquet?
[15:06:38] <Jammet> Yes...
[15:07:34] <sbx> Right, I had forgotten what order the plot is there. That's the only time I know of that Pothos is "missing", before the banquet.
[15:07:42] <Jammet> Porthos was in his store after the banquet. I talked to him, he mentioned the bloodmoss, but I wasn't given the choise to give to him what I have.
[15:08:01] <Jammet> Yes, people were talking about him being absent.
[15:08:11] <Jammet> On a secret mission for the Mage Lord.
[15:08:19] <Jammet> (Bloodmoss harvesting)
[15:08:34] <Jammet> I hope he hasn't gone to the swamp or something.
[15:09:06] <sbx> That's wierd. I thought he was gone up to that point, and only after he interrupts the banquet he is now available at his store.
[15:09:06] <sbx> hehe
[15:09:06] <sbx> Yes let's hope it isnt doing it backwards
[15:09:43] <Jammet> I think I'll go to the swamp just to make sure, and then go back.
[15:09:55] <wjp> you won't find him before the banquet
[15:10:06] <Jammet> The banquet happened.
[15:12:22] * Jammet puts on lots of swamp boots and goes there again.
[15:13:44] <Jammet> He isn't there, but now I have 28 bloodmoss...
[15:21:02] <Jammet> sbx: Where would you normally find Porthos after the baquet if not in his store?
[15:21:38] <sbx> blue boar
[15:22:35] <Jammet> There are all kinds of people there, except for him.
[15:28:54] <Jammet> Bucia still tells me he is gone.
[15:29:02] <Jammet> Quite the truth. =(
[15:33:10] <sbx> flag 0xd9 will make her say he is back
[15:34:03] <sbx> and its set in the banquet
[15:35:17] <sbx> you can look at the cheat screen to see his coords
[15:36:22] <sbx> maybe he is still in the banquet hall, but that is locked.
[15:37:21] <Jammet> Just to be sure that something is wrong ... can I send you a save game of this? I have just reloaded the banquet and things happen all the same anyway, even though this time I talked to Flindo and Bucia and both about the Mage.
[15:37:45] <Jammet> I'm still talking to Porthos but, again, no further mention of the bloodmoss.
[15:38:14] <wjp> you can send it to me if you want
[15:38:16] <Jammet> I can talk about the Stoneheart and the apparatus, that's pretty much it.
[15:38:45] <Jammet> Yes, =). Would you like one with the problem already in place or one right before the baquet?
[15:39:29] <wjp> after the banquet
[15:39:38] <sbx> yeah send it to wjp :)
[15:40:23] <Jammet> Here you go wjp ... =)
[15:42:53] <wjp> let's have a look
[15:42:59] <Jammet> Thanks ...
[15:44:15] <wjp> Pothos is in the room of the dead at that point
[15:44:24] <Jammet> Of the dead?
[15:44:30] <Jammet> You mean the Necro guys home?
[15:44:47] <sbx> ouch
[15:44:56] <wjp> no, it's basically out of the game
[15:45:07] <Jammet> Ouch!
[15:45:20] <wjp> maybe you'd better send me one before the banquet too :-)
[15:45:21] <Jammet> I didn't ...
[15:45:25] <Jammet> Okay.
[15:45:29] <Jammet> Coming!
[15:47:05] <Jammet> This is right after I talked to Flindo about his promise.
[15:47:20] <Jammet> So if you talk to him again or wait a couple of minutes, you're in the banquet.
[15:47:47] <wjp> right, there we go
[15:48:35] <wjp> ok, Pothos walking in...
[15:48:45] <wjp> and out...
[15:49:05] <Jammet> He'll be in his shop after that.
[15:49:09] <wjp> yes, he is
[15:51:20] <wjp> ok, talked to Bucia
[15:51:28] <Jammet> So I talked with him, he briefly mentions his need for bloodmoss, and I went out to the swamp again, came back, he was gone.
[15:51:37] <wjp> talking to Pothos about secret
[15:51:48] <Jammet> Okay, I didn't get to that point.
[15:52:50] <sbx> ...because he was missing :)
[15:52:57] <Jammet> Yup....
[15:53:22] <Jammet> Maybe there is a problem with asking the robot thing to join me before I go to the shop... but that's entirely unrelated.
[15:53:57] <Jammet> Even so, the guy just disappearing isn't quite right, but thanks, now I can try the workaround. =^_^=
[15:55:45] <sbx> hmm, was it the automotan that delivered the message from Rotoluncia? I think its supposed to disappear when it goes off screen
[15:56:15] <Jammet> Well, no idea why, he would just happily join me because I asked him to.
[15:56:27] <Jammet> Just met him somewhere in Moonshade.
[15:56:41] <Jammet> He's also at the banquet.
[15:56:44] <Colourless> that would be a bug
[15:57:23] <Jammet> Mew Colourless =)
[15:57:32] <Jammet> Okay, I'll leave him at the banquet and get my stuff back.
[15:58:21] <Jammet> So, he's supposed to show up sometime ... hope he will.
[15:59:43] <Colourless> no automaton should be joining with you
[16:00:06] <Colourless> unless you used a create automaton spell on their 'corpse'
[16:00:23] <Jammet> Never did...
[16:01:05] <Jammet> (=^_^= Don't even know such a thing exists, I'm trying to keep playing it the normal way, except that I'm trying to build a small house somewhere, at least that's the plan).
[16:01:22] <Jammet> Dropped him off outside the banquet now.
[16:01:25] <sbx> at least not in moonshade
[16:01:38] <Jammet> Now he's gone.
[16:04:42] <Jammet> Colourless: If you'd like, you can get those savegames from wjp.
[16:09:02] * Jammet goes to continue. Something happened to Shamino.. um, sort of.
[16:09:05] <Jammet> Later
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[16:27:35] <Jammet> Hej there.. =).
[16:28:02] <Jammet> Guess it might be paranoid, but, wjp, after you found Porthos...
[16:28:43] <Jammet> Is Fibercio anywhere to be found? I've been searching all of Moonshade by now.
[16:29:00] <Jammet> Not that, now after Porthos is fine, the next guy in the string of events is dead.
[16:31:43] <wjp> the magelord will be gone until he's needed again
[16:32:03] <Jammet> Everyone's urging me to talk to him.
[16:32:06] <wjp> hm
[16:32:18] <wjp> I have to go know, so I can't really look at it
[16:32:18] <Jammet> Ah, I slept 8 hours and then he was back..
[16:32:19] <Jammet> Whew.
[16:32:23] <wjp> :-)
[16:32:25] <wjp> bye
[16:32:28] <Jammet> =^_^= Thanks! Later...
[16:32:56] <sbx> bye
[16:33:58] <sbx> he's supposed to be in his house at that point
[16:34:32] <sbx> it's not even necessary to talk to fedabiblio first
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[20:35:21] <Colourless> going
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