#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 1 May 2007 (GMT)

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[01:24:40] <Pupnik_> video of exult on n770 coming
[01:24:59] <Pupnik_> latest builds on newest OS/Xomap X11 server are quite a bit slower than this though
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[01:49:01] <Pupnik> Exult Ultima 7 remake, running with scale2x in full 800x480 and new movement method, on it2006, on Nokia 770
[01:49:05] <Pupnik> http://pupnik.de/Exult_N770_800x480_Optimized_XviD.avi
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[03:15:33] <Pupnik> nice. neo1973 linux phone with 480x640 screen
[03:15:36] <Pupnik> hi Colourless
[03:15:47] <Colourless> hi
[03:16:02] <Pupnik> http://pupnik.de/Exult_N770_800x480_Optimized_XviD.avi <- my fastest build for the nokia 770 - with tap-running
[03:17:02] <Pupnik> haven't figured out how to combine object pickup with single tap running yet
[03:30:50] <Pupnik> that video is from a version that still has occasional alignment issues
[03:32:30] <Colourless> originally i was working on a version for PocketPCs that have similar control issues
[03:32:39] <Colourless> you only have a stylus and limited buttons
[03:33:53] <Colourless> i was going to develop a toolbar of sorts that would let you change modes by clicking a button
[03:34:59] <Pupnik> yes, i was hoping to do a mode toggle with the 'enter' key
[03:35:14] <Pupnik> which is the central button on the n770 directional pad
[03:35:56] <Pupnik> toggling would help reliability
[03:36:18] <Pupnik> because if you collapse running and object selection into left-mouse-button, the user will end-up moving when he intended to click an object or person
[03:36:31] <Pupnik> -- and misses
[03:37:03] <Pupnik> not to mention the difficulty in actually coding the behavior, i still haven't fully understood the double tap implementation :D
[03:38:42] <Colourless> the control scheme is not idea for a single button interface
[03:39:19] <Colourless> what i was thinking: http://www.users.on.net/~triforce/toolbar_normal.png
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[03:39:51] * Marzo drools
[03:40:14] <Marzo> That could be useful even for PCs
[03:40:28] <Colourless> http://www.users.on.net/~triforce/toolbar_combat.png
[03:40:37] <Colourless> http://www.users.on.net/~triforce/toolbar_gump.png
[03:41:11] <Colourless> not hard to do, i'm just a lazy bastard :-)
[03:41:25] <Marzo> lol
[03:47:26] <Pupnik> Real nice
[03:47:51] <Marzo> Is any part of the code done or were those mock-ups?
[03:48:02] <Pupnik> i was thinking of that too putting the icons on top of the vame view (transparent background)
[03:48:11] <Pupnik> like the player icons
[03:49:54] <Pupnik> btw re: the combat png. i notice two different types of 'character view' . the one in your screenshot doesn't show the backpack. how do you pull up the backpack?
[03:50:40] <Colourless> in a convoluted way
[03:50:55] <Pupnik> how?
[03:51:04] <Colourless> if you double click yourself, it opens your inventory, so if you used that 'target' on yourself it would open your inventory
[03:51:16] <Pupnik> ok thanks .. testing
[03:51:51] <Colourless> would needs to be an easier way. it was just a mockup
[03:53:28] <Colourless> i was working on the assumption that the device would have a 320x240 resolution, leaving a space of 320x40 pixels for a toolbar and still keep the normal u7 resolution
[03:54:49] <Pupnik> placing short icons onscreen without the brown background could make it more easily resolution independent
[03:54:55] <Pupnik> *shortcut
[03:55:51] <Pupnik> oh i see the backpack double click on character is not currently active
[03:56:23] <Pupnik> so i see no way to activate backpack with paperdoll
[03:57:18] <Pupnik> searching docs/forums
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[03:59:44] <Pupnik> is there a solution?
[04:01:16] <Colourless> you want to open your backpack?
[04:01:26] <Pupnik> yes - with paper doll enabled
[04:01:57] <Colourless> you should be able to do that back opening your paperdoll, then double clicking on the smalle barely visable backpack behind the characters shoulder
[04:04:09] <Pupnik> oh thanks
[04:04:26] <Pupnik> didn't see it
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[20:00:06] <Pupnik_afk> 'valgrind' makes me think of doing dirty things with Moon Zappa
[20:03:00] <Pupnik_afk> "cleean the catbox..."
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