#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 20 Mar 2001 (GMT)

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[00:06:11] <DraX> Fingolfin, how macosx going :P
[00:07:36] <Fingolfin> hrm
[00:08:13] <DraX> ?
[00:08:27] <Fingolfin> I tried to add in a AC_DEFINE(MACOSX)
[00:08:54] <DraX> configure is a real pain to work with
[00:09:05] <Fingolfin> ah
[00:09:07] <skate111> heh
[00:09:11] <Fingolfin> I need to add it to the local acconfig.h
[00:09:20] <skate111> it's not that hard .. it's not easy though.
[00:09:27] <Fingolfin> DraX: right, esp. if you haven't worked with it yet ;)
[00:09:29] <Fingolfin> yeah
[00:09:32] <Fingolfin> it is OK
[00:09:35] <DraX> i did once
[00:09:35] <Fingolfin> just that I am new to it ;)
[00:09:49] <Fingolfin> it is pretty logical though... more or less ;)
[00:13:48] <Fingolfin> brb
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[00:19:03] <DraX> hey
[00:22:19] <DraX> hows it going?
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[00:26:08] <DraX> is it building?
[00:26:14] <Fingolfin> darn
[00:26:17] <Fingolfin> this f*ck IRC client!
[00:26:18] <Fingolfin> grrrrrrrrrr
[00:26:21] <DraX> heh
[00:26:36] <Fingolfin> yeah, it failed on linking though ;)
[00:26:38] * Fingolfin scrolls through the messages
[00:26:57] <DraX> i had a problem like
[00:27:04] <DraX> it was because x wasn't linked
[00:27:17] <DraX> see if the cocoa display stuff is being linked
[00:28:21] <Fingolfin> nah
[00:28:31] <Fingolfin> the problems seems to be not linking to C++ std lib
[00:28:32] <Fingolfin> argh
[00:28:42] <DraX> then tell it too :)
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[00:29:52] <Fingolfin> hm
[00:30:01] <Fingolfin> the point is: why is it only failing in subdir files?
[00:30:21] <DraX> the makefile isn't write in the usbdirs?
[00:31:24] <Fingolfin> err... can you rephrase that in proper english? ;)
[00:31:32] <Fingolfin> ahh
[00:31:37] <Fingolfin> now I understand
[00:31:41] <DraX> is the makefile right in the subdirs :P
[00:31:41] * Fingolfin is not native speaker
[00:31:45] <Fingolfin> it is there
[00:31:48] <Fingolfin> makefile seems ok
[00:31:55] <Fingolfin> it fails on iostream stuff
[00:31:56] <Fingolfin> but
[00:32:06] <Fingolfin> other subdir source files also use that
[00:32:09] <Fingolfin> in fact most do
[00:32:25] <DraX> is it all -lstdlibc++ or what ever it's called?
[00:34:20] <Fingolfin> I will check that
[00:34:22] <Fingolfin> still
[00:34:24] <Fingolfin> strange...
[00:34:38] <DraX> i thought the X stuff was strange
[00:34:46] <DraX> but adding the -lX11 etc etc worked
[00:35:41] * Fingolfin needs to test auto-highlighting in his IRC client, so could anybody please say "fingolfin" ?
[00:35:55] <DraX> fingolfin
[00:36:03] <Fingolfin> wonderfuly, than
[00:36:04] <Fingolfin> x
[00:37:19] <Fingolfin> but you didn't need -lstdc++, right? h,
[00:37:27] <DraX> no
[00:38:05] <Fingolfin> Ill try it anyway - even though it means rebuilding everything again. sigh
[00:42:16] <DraX> lets hope it works
[00:48:58] <Fingolfin> nope :/
[00:48:59] <Fingolfin> ahhh
[00:49:05] <Fingolfin> I was wrong it fails in conf not in files
[00:49:13] <Fingolfin> and it fails while linking to the files lib
[00:49:22] <Fingolfin> Making all in conf
[00:49:23] <Fingolfin> CC --pedantic -o confregress xmain.o .libs/libconf.a ../files/.libs/libu7file.a
[00:49:25] <Fingolfin> <snip>
[00:49:38] <Fingolfin> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
[00:49:46] <Fingolfin> <snip list of symbols>
[00:50:27] <DraX> 1000ft of cat5 for $43
[00:50:29] <DraX> cool
[00:57:02] <DraX> back
[00:58:17] <DraX> Fingolfin, can you fix it :)
[00:58:43] <Fingolfin> not sure, I am still trying to figure out why it fails here and not in the other submodules
[00:58:53] <Fingolfin> and I am also doing other stuff ;)
[00:58:56] <Fingolfin> multi-tasking ;)
[01:09:24] <Fingolfin> ahh
[01:09:26] <Fingolfin> ok ok ok
[01:09:30] <Fingolfin> I am just stupid
[01:09:37] <DraX> haha, what?
[01:09:59] <Fingolfin> what fails is building confregress - apparently a regression test for conf
[01:10:19] <Fingolfin> so it is a) non-critical and b) uses some custom link command
[01:10:33] <Fingolfin> for now I guess I can just try to "remove" it from the makefile
[01:11:01] * DraX should wire his house with ethernet
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[01:12:40] <Fingolfin> hehe
[01:12:46] <Fingolfin> I think I know how to fix it
[01:13:40] * Maloh is going to bed
[01:13:44] <Maloh> Night all
[01:13:48] <Fingolfin> night
[01:13:49] <Fingolfin> but
[01:14:03] <Fingolfin> why did yo join the channel, only to tell us that you go to bed? ;)
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[01:15:04] <Maloh> Cause I felt like it ;-)
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[01:15:50] <Fingolfin> lol
[01:16:00] <Fingolfin> I have no problem with it of course ;)
[01:16:10] <Fingolfin> yes!
[01:16:13] <Fingolfin> seems conf is linking!
[01:16:17] <DraX> awesome
[01:16:37] <DraX> if only i could link the exult bin :P
[01:16:56] <Fingolfin> oh well, I can't either ,)
[01:17:04] * Fingolfin checks what went wrong this time
[01:17:12] <Fingolfin> expack
[01:17:17] <Fingolfin> propably same bug
[01:17:32] <DraX> did you remove it from make, or did you get it to link?
[01:23:27] <DraX> brb
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[01:25:18] <Fingolfin> got it to link
[01:25:38] <Fingolfin> $(SYSLIBS) was missing in at least two Makefile.am files
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[01:26:17] <Fingolfin> wb
[01:26:24] <Fingolfin> I got it to link; $(SYSLIBS) was missing in at least two Makefile.am files
[01:26:38] <Fingolfin> now I get a compiler error in shp2pcx.cc
[01:26:46] <Fingolfin> <sigh>
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[01:29:06] <Fingolfin> wb
[01:29:16] * Fingolfin ties DraX to the channel
[01:29:23] <DraX> i'm playing with a new window manager
[01:29:27] <Fingolfin> hehe
[01:29:28] <DraX> so i'm sort of fiddling around
[01:30:01] <Fingolfin> ok, I fixed the error in shp2pcx.cc I think - wjps was "borrowing" code from SDL but forgot to change the types - SDL uses Uint16, we use uin16
[01:30:11] <DraX> heh
[01:30:15] <DraX> alt tab works too!
[01:30:38] <Fingolfin> hehe
[01:30:46] <DraX> that is cool, you can lower a window with a mouse click
[01:31:44] <DraX> i'm intriuged
[01:31:51] <DraX> i've been addicted to windowmaker
[01:31:55] <DraX> but i might switch to this
[01:36:25] <Fingolfin> which?
[01:37:02] <DraX> treewm
[01:37:18] * Fingolfin runs make with fingers crossed
[01:37:19] <Fingolfin> yes!
[01:37:26] <Fingolfin> tools compiled & linked!
[01:37:30] <Fingolfin> shapes now...
[01:37:30] <DraX> woohoo
[01:38:01] <DraX> like you can have an internet group, where all your internet apps are
[01:38:04] <Dominus> Kirben?
[01:38:28] <Fingolfin> passed!
[01:38:31] <Fingolfin> now imagewin
[01:38:42] <Fingolfin> Dominus: good luck on getting Kirben's attention ;)
[01:38:53] <Dominus> :-)
[01:38:59] <DraX> thanks :)
[01:39:23] <Dominus> maybe I can get Jeffs attention
[01:39:25] <Dominus> usecode
[01:39:26] <Fingolfin> brb
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[01:39:28] <Dominus> usecode
[01:39:31] <Dominus> usecode
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[01:39:42] <Fingolfin> hehe
[01:39:46] <Dominus> thought this might work :-)
[01:39:46] <DraX> wb
[01:39:48] <Fingolfin> I think jeff is asleep now ;)
[01:39:58] <Dominus> what about you?
[01:40:02] <Fingolfin> yes, imagewin compiled
[01:40:05] <Fingolfin> now doing usecode
[01:40:07] <Dominus> its 2:40 about now
[01:40:12] <Fingolfin> yeah ;)
[01:40:15] <Fingolfin> what about *you* ?
[01:40:15] <Fingolfin> ;)
[01:40:33] <Dominus> Im an insomaniac, or whatever
[01:40:44] <Dominus> been fiddling around with soundeffects
[01:40:58] <Dominus> conv.h is not something I get!
[01:42:52] <Fingolfin> the audio code is quite arcane :(
[01:43:32] <Dominus> Just trying to find out which sound is played according to the conv.h is impossible for me
[01:44:15] <Dominus> what I did was play Exult, see in the stderr.txt to find which sound is played at which action
[01:45:44] <Kirben> back
[01:45:53] <Dominus> :-)
[01:45:59] <Dominus> hello Kirben!!!
[01:46:08] <Dominus> Ive just been asking for you
[01:46:27] <Kirben> still after expack.exe ?
[01:46:29] <Dominus> did you get my mail?
[01:46:32] <Dominus> :-)
[01:46:34] <Dominus> right!
[01:47:35] <Dominus> and how do you like the idea to put up snapshots of the development tools?
[01:48:04] <Kirben> hmm compile is still broken right now
[01:48:12] <Kirben> yes will add them
[01:48:20] <Dominus> great!
[01:51:14] <Fingolfin> wow
[01:51:18] <Fingolfin> it seems it linked exult
[01:51:26] <Kirben> will try with older audio.cc
[01:51:27] <DraX> execute it
[01:52:04] <Fingolfin> Kirben: what error?
[01:52:26] <Fingolfin> IT RUNS!
[01:52:32] <Fingolfin> of course only shortly
[01:52:38] <Fingolfin> then it notices the data files are missing ;)
[01:52:55] <Kirben> same as I posted earlier:
[01:52:55] <Kirben> <Kirben> g++ -mwindows -O2 -include mingw_kludges.h -DVERSION=\"0.92cvs\" -DEXULT_DATADIR
[01:52:56] <Kirben> <Kirben> =\"data\" -g3 -DDEBUG -DCYGWIN -DSIZEOF_SHORT=2 -DSIZEOF_INT=4 -I./imagewin -I./
[01:52:56] <Kirben> <Kirben> shapes -I./files -I. -I./audio -I./conf -I./gumps -I./objs -I./pathfinder -I./us
[01:52:57] <Kirben> <Kirben> ecode -I./sdl/include -c -o Audio.o ./audio/Audio.cc
[01:52:59] <Kirben> <Kirben> ./audio/Audio.cc: In method `class AudioID Audio::play_wave_sfx(int, int = 128,
[01:53:01] <Kirben> <Kirben> int = 0, bool = false)':
[01:53:03] <Kirben> <Kirben> ./audio/Audio.cc:752: `return' with no value, in function returning non-void
[01:53:07] <Kirben> <Kirben> make: *** [Audio.o] Error 1
[01:53:10] <DraX> Fingolfin, awesome
[01:53:19] <Fingolfin> ah right
[01:53:24] <Kirben> something in latest audio.cc broke compile, as older audio.cc works
[01:54:14] <Fingolfin> simple to fix
[01:54:26] <Fingolfin> line 753
[01:54:30] <Fingolfin> err, 752
[01:54:34] <Fingolfin> replace this:
[01:54:35] <Fingolfin> if (!sfx_file) return; // no .wav sfx available
[01:54:37] <Fingolfin> with this:
[01:54:46] <Fingolfin> if (!sfx_file) return AudioID(0, 0); // no .wav sfx available
[01:54:52] <Kirben> ok
[01:54:55] <Kirben> also could you add tools compile to makefile.cygwin ? along with way to compile them ?
[01:55:11] <Fingolfin> hm
[01:55:19] <Fingolfin> are you using automake on cygwin?
[01:55:35] <Fingolfin> err
[01:55:44] <Kirben> I'm still using mingw32 for compile, cygwin has issues
[01:55:49] <Fingolfin> do you use autoconf?
[01:55:58] <Kirben> no just the static makefile
[01:56:18] <Kirben> makefile.win32 contains the tool compiles, just not makefile.cygwin
[01:56:22] <DraX> i should restart tree with my new config file
[01:56:22] <DraX> brb
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[01:56:25] <Fingolfin> just out of curiosities: why not autoconf/automake? and what issues has cygwin? ;)
[01:56:31] <Fingolfin> I will fix it
[01:56:49] <Fingolfin> but I also need to find out the CVS commands to commit my changes before I do so ;) that is, need to relearn them ;)
[01:56:53] <Kirben> auto stuff failed last I tried, no libsizetool
[01:57:11] <Kirben> and no sound plus much slower with cygwin version
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[02:01:16] <Kirben> How can I force tools/wud.exe and tools/ucdump.exe to compile ?
[02:03:18] <Fingolfin> wb DraX
[02:03:20] <Fingolfin> Kirben: hm
[02:03:35] <Fingolfin> Kirben: what do you mean, force em? using make?
[02:04:06] <Kirben> Well they are part of makefile.win32 but don't compile by default:
[02:04:12] <Kirben> tools/wud.exe : tools/wud.o tools/uctools.h usecode/bgintrinsics.h usecode/siintrinsics.h $(CXX) $(LFLAGS) -o tools/wud.exe tools/wud.o -mconsoletools/ucdump.exe : tools/ucdump.o $(CXX) $(LFLAGS) -o tools/ucdump.exe tools/ucdump.o -mconsole
[02:06:11] <Fingolfin> hm
[02:06:15] <Fingolfin> maybe like this:
[02:06:25] <Fingolfin> make tools/wud.exe
[02:07:25] <Kirben> that works
[02:12:13] <Fingolfin> good ;)
[02:12:30] <DraX> Fingolfin, does it work?
[02:12:52] <Fingolfin> I am editing the pathes to the data folder right now
[02:13:17] <Fingolfin> sadly, my main OS X partition is nearly full - it is only 2 gigs, which is tiny for a full OS + tools + sources etc.
[02:13:29] <Fingolfin> so I need to shove stuff to another partition
[02:13:31] <Fingolfin> hmmmmmmm
[02:14:00] * Fingolfin speaks to himself: why not using symlinks, dumbass! this is unix
[02:18:31] <Dominus> Kirben: thx
[02:21:33] <Fingolfin> hm
[02:21:38] <Fingolfin> it is either very slow
[02:21:42] <Fingolfin> or I am doing something wrong...
[02:21:48] <Fingolfin> "Support for 'Serpent Isle' Paperdolls in 'Black Gate' ENABLED."
[02:21:54] <Fingolfin> and now it does nothing...
[02:21:56] <Fingolfin> ah
[02:22:00] <Fingolfin> finally, an error ;)
[02:22:13] <DraX> Fingolfin, does it draw the menu?
[02:22:26] <DraX> Fingolfin, if it dosen't it's the same or akin to the openbsd error
[02:22:44] <Fingolfin> no, right now it doesn't even open the SDL window - simply because I messed up the data path
[02:23:10] <DraX> Fingolfin, fix the datapath :P
[02:23:14] <DraX> for me it draws a window
[02:23:18] <DraX> and then basically locks up
[02:23:22] <Fingolfin> no, really? what a genius suggestion ;)
[02:23:41] <DraX> :P
[02:25:31] <Kirben> new snapshots online
[02:25:53] <DraX> Kirben, i think i would start to go nuts if i had to take snapshots every day :P
[02:26:09] <DraX> dosen't it get to you
[02:26:47] <Kirben> no snapshots don't bother me, I could always automate most of it anyway
[02:27:54] <Fingolfin> DraX: btw:
[02:28:02] <DraX> Fingolfin, yes :)
[02:28:12] <Fingolfin> DraX: unistd.h *is* included on linux, and now on MacOS X, too... via autoconf
[02:28:25] <Fingolfin> DraX: it detects its presence,and if there, includes it into all files
[02:28:30] <DraX> ok
[02:28:33] <Fingolfin> strange that this didn't happen under OpenBSD
[02:28:33] <DraX> good idea
[02:29:50] <Fingolfin> uhooh wait
[02:29:53] <Fingolfin> I think I just lied ;)
[02:29:57] <DraX> :PPP
[02:30:26] * Fingolfin hopes you excuse his stupidity, but its already 3:30 AM and he's loosing the few bits of his sanity that are there
[02:30:48] <DraX> hehe
[02:30:56] <DraX> it's 9:29PM here :P
[02:31:18] <Fingolfin> hrm
[02:31:21] <DraX> hurry up and fix your datapaths so we can see if it works
[02:31:38] <Fingolfin> I hate it, exult is either hanging (after failing to create a midi driver), or very very slow...
[02:31:43] <Dominus> ok, now that I made Kirben built the tools for me, its time to go to bed, maybe anyway...
[02:31:50] <Fingolfin> I can't believe it hangs, since before it got farther
[02:31:52] <DraX> Fingolfin, SAME problem i had
[02:31:58] <Fingolfin> Dominus: sleep well ;)
[02:31:59] <DraX> Fingolfin, it would core some times for me
[02:32:04] <Fingolfin> DraX: hrm, darn
[02:32:08] <Dominus> good night
[02:32:10] <DraX> Fingolfin, is it a bsd thing?
[02:32:17] <DraX> or midi
[02:32:22] <Dominus> Kirben: thx again!
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[02:32:59] <Fingolfin> I guess I will have to debug it... but I never used gdb before.... well, time to learn it
[02:33:04] <Fingolfin> but not today
[02:33:06] <Fingolfin> err, I mean
[02:33:11] <Fingolfin> not before I slept ;)
[02:33:23] <Fingolfin> ah, this time it gets farther
[02:33:24] <DraX> Fingolfin, gdb caused my machine to freeze up in back trace
[02:33:31] <DraX> because of the backtraces
[02:33:37] <DraX> does it draw the window?
[02:34:03] <DraX> s/backtraces/volume of data :P
[02:36:40] <Fingolfin> hm
[02:36:50] <Fingolfin> it fails to create the gamedat dir, funny...
[02:36:59] <Fingolfin> Found Serpent Isle 'paperdol.vga' and 'gumps.vga'.
[02:36:59] <Fingolfin> Support for 'Serpent Isle' Paperdolls in 'Black Gate' ENABLED.
[02:36:59] <Fingolfin> Creating 'gamedat' files.
[02:37:00] <Fingolfin> creating dir: /usr/local/share/exult/BG/gamedat/here
[02:37:00] <Fingolfin> ============================
[02:37:00] <Fingolfin> An exception occured:
[02:37:02] <Fingolfin> Error opening file /USR/LOCAL/SHARE/EXULT/BG/GAMEDAT/NPC.DAT
[02:37:04] <Fingolfin> errno: 2
[02:37:07] <Fingolfin> Error Description: No such file or directory
[02:38:12] * Fingolfin creates gamedat manually
[02:38:16] <DraX> when i get home to my real OpenBSD box i'll finish the linking and see what error messages i get
[02:38:24] <DraX> is it drawing the menu?
[02:48:37] <DraX> Fingolfin, hows it doing?
[02:48:45] <Fingolfin> well
[02:48:48] <Fingolfin> not sure ;)
[02:48:52] <DraX> heh
[02:48:59] <Fingolfin> I can't find a window anywhere... maybe it hangs again?
[02:49:05] <Fingolfin> Setting Shape to 721
[02:49:05] <Fingolfin> Exult Exception: Error opening file /USR/LOCAL/SHARE/EXULT/BG/GAMEDAT/SCHEDULE.DAT
[02:49:05] <Fingolfin> Trying <STATIC>/schedule.dat
[02:49:05] <Fingolfin> Told to set Shape. Num 0 Polymorph 0
[02:49:06] <Fingolfin> Setting Shape to 721
[02:49:06] <Fingolfin> Told to set Shape. Num 1 Polymorph 0
[02:49:08] <Fingolfin> Told to set Shape. Num -1 Polymorph 0
[02:49:10] <Fingolfin> dog flags walk
[02:49:12] <Fingolfin> Cheats enabled.
[02:49:14] <Fingolfin> Real num 115
[02:49:16] <Fingolfin> now it does nothing...
[02:49:30] <DraX> Fingolfin, my problem was it would draw a window, and then nothing
[02:49:38] <DraX> usually after complaining about a midi device
[02:51:51] <Fingolfin> hm
[02:51:56] <Fingolfin> well, it got farther ;)
[02:52:00] <Fingolfin> but right now it seems it hands
[02:52:02] <Fingolfin> ...
[02:53:45] <DraX> Fingolfin, it dosen't draw a window at all?
[02:54:23] <Fingolfin> nope... this is very strange, hrm
[02:54:32] <Fingolfin> it did draw one before I added the data path
[02:54:32] <DraX> see i get a window
[02:54:35] <DraX> thats blank
[02:54:38] * Fingolfin removes the data path again
[02:54:43] <Fingolfin> the window even had the exult log
[02:54:46] <Fingolfin> logo even
[03:00:06] <DraX> does it work without the datapath?
[03:00:51] <Fingolfin> no, not anymore :/
[03:00:54] <Fingolfin> hhhmmmmm
[03:00:59] * Fingolfin has an idea
[03:01:14] <DraX> i'd say we have a BSD problem, you think so?
[03:01:32] <Fingolfin> ahah
[03:01:39] <Fingolfin> I had done make install
[03:01:51] <Fingolfin> and then had run it from my home dir
[03:01:59] <Fingolfin> running from the exult source dir seems to work
[03:02:21] <DraX> seems?
[03:03:18] <Fingolfin> menu works!
[03:03:33] <DraX> you ran it from the compile dir?
[03:03:49] <DraX> Fingolfin> ah, this time it gets farther
[03:03:50] <DraX> (DraX) Fingolfin, gdb caused my machine to freeze up in back trace
[03:03:53] <DraX> sorry
[03:03:59] <DraX> wrong buttom
[03:04:19] <Fingolfin> I run it from compile dir
[03:04:23] <Fingolfin> it is still buggy, though
[03:04:33] <Fingolfin> the window doesn't come to the front :/
[03:04:34] <DraX> i will try it when i get home.
[03:04:44] <Fingolfin> but this is most propably a problem with SDL on OS X
[03:05:04] <DraX> i can't link a binary here
[03:07:34] <DraX> Fingolfin, how big is the binary?
[03:08:00] <Fingolfin> lemme check
[03:08:16] <Fingolfin> 2.8 MB
[03:08:48] <DraX> Exult V0.91alpha2.
[03:08:48] <DraX> Data path = /usr/local/share/exult
[03:08:48] <DraX> Loading default keybindings
[03:08:48] <DraX> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[03:08:48] <DraX> Couldn't open audio: No available audio device
[03:08:50] <DraX> Audio system assembled. Audio buffer at 2
[03:08:51] <DraX> Unable to create a music device. No music will be played
[03:08:53] <DraX> Audio initialisation OK
[03:10:15] <DraX> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root users 21463553 Mar 1 20:48 exult
[03:12:04] <DraX> i "disabled" audio
[03:12:12] <DraX> Exult V0.91alpha2.
[03:12:12] <DraX> Data path = /usr/local/share/exult
[03:12:12] <DraX> Loading default keybindings
[03:12:12] <DraX> Couldn't open audio: Application not compiled with SDL 1.1
[03:12:12] <DraX> Audio system assembled. Audio buffer at 0
[03:12:12] <DraX> Audio initialisation OK
[03:12:17] <DraX> still locks
[03:12:49] <Fingolfin> hm
[03:13:27] <Fingolfin> well, I don't get any audio errors, which is funny, since there is not yet Audio support in SDL for MacOS X
[03:13:44] <DraX> possibly because your using cvs
[03:15:17] <DraX> this is before wjp's no midi device fix
[03:15:35] <DraX> i bet it keeps repeating midi requests and not printing it to screen
[03:16:57] <DraX> adam had to switch to gcc to do the irix building
[03:17:46] <Fingolfin> hohm
[03:17:53] <Fingolfin> then maybe you should try latest CVS, too
[03:18:03] <DraX> Fingolfin, which i can't link on my laptop
[03:18:13] <Fingolfin> argh, why that? ;)
[03:18:30] <DraX> SDL_audio stuff
[03:19:04] <DraX> and i can't relink libsdl because of problems with libhermes, builds fine on my pc though
[03:20:05] <Fingolfin> <sigh>
[03:20:10] <Fingolfin> horror ;)
[03:20:49] <DraX> my dad is out of town, so i don't have access to my real bsd box
[03:20:52] <DraX> just my laptop
[03:25:20] <DraX> i need the ability to click in the body of a window to focu
[03:25:21] <DraX> s
[03:27:07] <DraX> Fingolfin, i think it's time to setup a QNX box :)
[03:27:07] <DraX> SDL supports photon
[03:27:07] <Fingolfin> hehe
[03:27:07] <Fingolfin> anyone got a WinCE machine?
[03:27:07] <Fingolfin> ;)
[03:27:07] <DraX> Fingolfin, what is supported?
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[03:31:45] <DraX> Fingolfin, we need to see if we have the same problems in openbsd and os x
[03:32:04] <Fingolfin> yeah
[03:32:13] <DraX> and i'll try to get my friend hemi to build on netbsd and freebsd
[03:32:32] <DraX> Fingolfin, there is no ASM is there?
[03:32:43] <Fingolfin> ?
[03:32:58] <DraX> 22:30:15 Skate82485: theres assembly?
[03:32:58] <DraX> 22:31:17 DraXVAZ: no
[03:34:15] <DraX> 22:32:09 Skate82485: as: Error: /var/tmp/cclvr1uV.s, line 6076: Truncating token: __t4pair2Zt18__rb_tree_iterator3Zt4pair2ZCt12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b0i0Zt12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b0i0ZRt4pair2ZCt12basic_string3Zc
[03:35:50] <DraX> utils.cc is the offending app
[03:36:39] <Fingolfin> =
[03:36:47] <Fingolfin> which dir is being built?
[03:36:52] <DraX> files/
[03:37:05] <Fingolfin> but there is no app utils
[03:37:19] <Fingolfin> only problems like this happend in conf and usecode and tools
[03:37:36] <Fingolfin> all could be resolved by adding a $(SRCLIBS) in the right places
[03:37:36] <DraX> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL -D_SGI_MP
[03:37:37] <DraX> _SOURCE -DXWIN -g -Wp,-MD,.deps/utils.pp -c utils.cc -o utils.o
[03:40:00] <DraX> well the problem still happens
[03:40:15] <Fingolfin> bad
[03:40:20] <Fingolfin> I am sorry, I have to go to bed now
[03:40:32] <DraX> ya, he's gonna send a build log to the mailing list
[03:40:36] <Fingolfin> maybe tomorrow I can think straight and am able to help:
[03:40:42] <Fingolfin> so cya
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[11:16:20] <Fingolfin> ?seen wjp
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[11:50:22] <Fingolfin> usecode
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[13:26:54] <Colourless> um, hi
[13:44:22] <Fingolfin|away> hi
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[13:44:26] <Fingolfin> back
[13:44:44] <Colourless> :)
[13:44:53] <Fingolfin> didi I break building???? please tell me yes ;)
[13:45:35] <Colourless> :) no idea
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[17:39:00] <wjp> hi all
[17:39:05] <Colourless> hi
[17:42:16] <Fingolfin> hiya
[17:42:19] <Fingolfin> that is timing ;)
[17:42:24] <Fingolfin> I forgot to set away it seems ;)
[17:42:37] * Fingolfin was away for 4 hours, and comes back 5 mins after wjp joins
[17:43:24] <wjp> ah, you've been working with configure.in
[17:43:29] <Fingolfin> yeah
[17:43:38] <Fingolfin> I hope I broked build on all non-MacOS X systems ;)
[17:43:43] <Fingolfin> broked even
[17:43:48] <Fingolfin> argh
[17:43:50] <wjp> almost got it :-)
[17:43:51] <Fingolfin> what is this with me!
[17:43:53] <Fingolfin> "broke"
[17:43:59] <Fingolfin> that is the word I was looking for ;)
[17:44:00] * wjp applauds
[17:44:09] <Fingolfin> lol
[17:44:14] <wjp> ok, configure still runs ok here
[17:44:18] <Fingolfin> damn ;)
[17:44:23] <Fingolfin> not surprisingly, though
[17:44:26] <wjp> I can break it if you want? ;-)
[17:44:33] <Fingolfin> no no, I can do that myself
[17:44:34] <Colourless> just check the irc logs, you come no where near me for volume of typos :)
[17:44:52] <Fingolfin> Coloruls: but I cn trie
[17:45:11] <Colourless> intentional typos don't count :)
[17:45:21] <wjp> oh come on, tab completion makes typos?
[17:45:39] <wjp> :-)
[17:45:45] <Fingolfin> I have no tab completion in this client :/
[17:45:52] <Colourless> me neither
[17:46:41] <wjp> lol @ 'wjp was "borrowing" code from SDL" :-)
[17:47:35] <Fingolfin> heheh yeah ;)
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[17:47:47] <wjp|pizza> bbl
[17:47:59] <Fingolfin> good appetite ;)
[17:48:04] <Fingolfin> hm, food.. good idea
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[19:04:23] <Maloh> Hi all
[19:05:48] <Fingolfin> hi
[19:05:57] <Colourless> hi
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[19:12:04] <wjp> back, obviously
[19:12:20] <Fingolfin> wb
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[19:44:39] <Maloh> I have created a site
[19:44:47] <Maloh> Anyone here willing to check it out?
[19:45:40] <Maloh> It's called "The Traveller's Rest" Exult & U7 based.
[19:46:00] <wjp> of course! what's the url?
[19:46:05] <Maloh> http://travellersrest.freecyberzone.com/
[19:46:41] <wjp> it's "traveler", btw
[19:46:50] <wjp> but that's a minor detail
[19:46:50] <Maloh> Oops...
[19:46:51] <Maloh> Hehehe
[19:47:08] <wjp> oops
[19:47:08] <Maloh> Dang
[19:47:09] <wjp> no flash
[19:47:13] <Maloh> Oh
[19:47:22] <Maloh> Well its just that
[19:47:23] * wjp switches browsers
[19:47:51] <Maloh> I'll add a text based intro
[19:48:27] <wjp> intro looks good!
[19:48:59] <Maloh> I'll add runes later, for effect
[19:49:51] <wjp> O'hEachtigearna? Interesting last name. What language is it?
[19:49:56] <Maloh> Irish
[19:50:09] <wjp> how do you pronounce it? (roughly)
[19:50:20] <Maloh> Well...
[19:50:40] <Maloh> yeach tig ear na
[19:50:53] <Maloh> earn a
[19:51:17] <Maloh> What do you think of the site so far?
[19:51:48] <wjp> still browsing :-)
[19:51:52] <wjp> (slow connection :-( )
[19:52:01] <Maloh> 56k?
[19:52:31] <wjp> well, it's cable, but roughly 4K/sec on average
[19:52:37] <Maloh> We can only get 56k here
[19:52:52] <Maloh> No cable, ISDN is beyond affordable :)
[19:53:19] <wjp> our cable ISP is far worse than regular dial-up
[19:53:33] <wjp> only redeeming feature is that there's no hourly phone costs
[19:53:41] <Maloh> Ahh ok :)
[19:53:53] <wjp> (in my case that's a big plus :-) )
[19:54:07] <Maloh> I know what you mean
[19:54:39] <Maloh> I want to get hosting without an advert too
[19:57:18] <Colourless> i'm off now. cya
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[19:57:58] <Maloh> Tell me what you think when your ready
[20:00:14] <wjp> looks good so far!
[20:00:24] <wjp> nice atmosphere
[20:00:52] <Maloh> It needs more character. I don't have the content to do that yet
[20:00:55] <wjp> how does the map thing work?
[20:01:12] <Maloh> It's Flash
[20:01:17] <wjp> oh, wait, got it
[20:01:29] <wjp> I was supposed to click on the "1. Cities and towns"
[20:01:43] <Maloh> Yea, I'll make that clearer
[20:01:59] <Maloh> Scroll over the Towns names or Locations
[20:02:00] <wjp> maybe add quotes around the instruction at the bottom
[20:02:09] <Maloh> Yes
[20:02:13] <wjp> click "cities & towns" for listing
[20:02:30] <wjp> I was clicking on cities on the map to get a listing, which obviously didn't work
[20:03:11] <Maloh> Later I might add "2. Dungeons" etc.
[20:03:29] <Maloh> But I think exploring is a hugh part of the game]
[20:03:37] <wjp> yeah
[20:05:19] <Maloh> Ok, I fixed that quote
[20:05:47] <Maloh> Do you think it would be good to add a message board
[20:06:31] <wjp> depends on what you want with the site
[20:06:49] <Maloh> Yea, I know
[20:06:58] <Maloh> I'm still figuring that out :)
[20:07:52] <Maloh> What is the URL of that Horizons Tavern again?
[20:07:58] <wjp> www.horizonstavern.com
[20:08:03] <wjp> I have to go for a while; bbl
[20:08:12] <Maloh> Ok, thank you
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[21:06:01] <chimera|work> hehehe
[21:20:12] <chimera|work> Dominik has outdone himself this time!!
[21:20:24] * chimera|work bites into a large chunk of meat and chews loudly.
[21:21:09] <wjp> what did Dominik do?
[21:22:01] <chimera|work> he sent an email with some sounds or something.. I wasn't sure what the deal was =]
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[22:19:44] <DraX> hello
[22:19:51] <wjp> hi
[22:20:04] <DraX> i'm gonna link a new bin when i get home
[22:20:11] <DraX> see if it work
[22:20:12] <DraX> s
[22:20:30] <DraX> i was going to try a beos build but i got caught up in something else
[22:21:04] <DraX> there are some problems on irix, and a bug report should have in filed on the mailing list but it hasn't come thru yet.
[22:21:58] <DraX> basically it generates 40k of as errors while compiling file/utils.cc
[22:22:05] <wjp> ouch
[22:22:33] <DraX> we think it's because he's using IRIX as, and not GNU as, with gcc
[22:22:42] <DraX> mipspro won't even begin to compile it
[22:24:36] <DraX> *cough* bad cpp :P *cough*
[22:34:16] <wjp> I have to go to bed
[22:34:18] <wjp> see you later
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[23:32:28] <chimera|work> max!!!
[23:32:38] <Fingolfin> eeeek
[23:32:41] <Fingolfin> it was not me!
[23:32:44] <Fingolfin> I can prove it!
[23:32:49] <chimera|work> too late!
[23:32:54] <chimera|work> you're busted!
[23:32:55] <Fingolfin> I have 10e6 people who can swear I am innocent!
[23:33:07] * Fingolfin frantically looks around, hoping for a cover
[23:33:16] * Fingolfin jumps & dives behind exultbot
[23:33:23] <Fingolfin> exultbot crahes in response
[23:33:35] <chimera|work> hehe
[23:33:38] <chimera|work> seen wjp
[23:33:51] <chimera|work> exultbot isn't exactly what one might call 'stable' hehe
[23:33:59] <Fingolfin> yeah :/
[23:34:02] <Fingolfin> ?seen wjp
[23:34:02] <exultbot> wjp left IRC around Tue Mar 20 22:34:29 2001 (GMT) ([x]chat)
[23:34:03] * chimera|work pokes fun at exultbot when wjp is gone
[23:34:09] <Fingolfin> hm
[23:34:21] <chimera|work> ?seen freedman
[23:34:21] <exultbot> freedman left IRC around Mon Mar 19 19:23:35 2001 (GMT) (Leaving)
[23:34:27] <Fingolfin> exultbot should report a time offset: "I saw wjp last xyz hours ago"
[23:34:39] <chimera|work> <grin>
[23:35:04] <chimera|work> well, you gotta start with the easy methods before branching to the more difficult stuff hehe
[23:35:52] <Fingolfin> hehe
[23:36:05] <chimera|work> I should try doing a bot using flex/bison hehe
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[23:40:41] <DraX> Fingolfin, i'm about to link a new openbsd binary my laptop is coming up now
[23:40:52] <Fingolfin> cool
[23:41:05] <Fingolfin> I wasn't able to work on exult today, though, busy with another porting work
[23:45:22] <DraX> Fingolfin, whatcha porting?
[23:46:44] <Fingolfin> jabber server
[23:46:50] <DraX> ahh, cool
[23:46:58] <DraX> i love networks, even my slow one
[23:47:01] <Fingolfin> could somebody check his/her glibc source for the implementation of strtok_r and DCC that to me?
[23:47:11] <DraX> don't have glibc
[23:47:12] <skate111> *yawn*
[23:47:17] <DraX> 9.7mb in 45 seconds
[23:47:29] <skate111> not on your machine
[23:47:56] <skate111> drax: i'm not getting replies because most of my emails aren't making it out
[23:48:06] <DraX> skate111, i haven't seen it on the list
[23:48:10] <skate111> Right
[23:48:11] <DraX> try another box...?
[23:48:15] <skate111> YEah i will
[23:48:27] <DraX> my box might freeze up in a second
[23:48:31] <DraX> i'm linking the exult bin
[23:49:27] <DraX> all done :P
[23:50:05] <DraX> nope still dosen't work
[23:50:33] <DraX> Exult V0.91alpha2.
[23:50:33] <DraX> Data path = /usr/local/share/exult
[23:50:33] <DraX> Loading default keybindings
[23:50:33] <DraX> Couldn't open audio: No available audio device
[23:50:33] <DraX> Audio system assembled. Audio buffer at 0
[23:50:33] <DraX> Created PCB 0
[23:50:35] <DraX> Created PCB 1
[23:50:38] <DraX> Created PCB 2
[23:50:39] <DraX> Created PCB 3
[23:50:41] <DraX> Created PCB 4
[23:50:44] <DraX> Created PCB 5
[23:50:45] <DraX> Audio initialisation OK
[23:51:00] <Fingolfin> hm
[23:51:18] <DraX> where is exult.flx kept when it's compiled?
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[23:51:28] <DraX> found it
[23:54:14] * Fingolfin is still compiling
[23:54:15] <DraX> it simply does not draw anything in the window
[23:54:21] <Fingolfin> compiling exult I mean ;)
[23:54:23] <DraX> i would gdb it but it'll freeze up my box
[23:54:26] <Fingolfin> hrm
[23:54:28] <chimera|work> so I guess this means SDL has been ported to openbsd? hehe
[23:54:34] <DraX> chimera|work, it builds
[23:54:37] <DraX> alot of stuff is broken
[23:54:48] <Fingolfin> DraX did you try the SDL test apps?
[23:54:57] <DraX> Fingolfin, yes, some work some don't
[23:55:13] <DraX> if it has to do with threading it dosen't work
[23:55:17] <DraX> almost everyrthing else does
[23:56:09] <DraX> sound is the main thing
[23:57:35] <DraX> Thread '#2' is alive!
[23:57:36] <DraX> Killing thread #2
[23:57:36] <DraX> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[23:57:40] <DraX> that is one of the broken ones
[23:58:42] <DraX> i'm gonna go for a bit, but when i get back i'll email the openbsd thread guy
[23:59:24] <skate111> there
[23:59:39] <skate111> think it sent