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[10:54:24] <wjp> Dominus: that debug-vs-release list does sound like something to try with valgrind
[10:55:15] <Dominus> hi, it's actually happening just by running the binary
[10:55:26] <wjp> ?
[10:55:43] <Dominus> not even in gdb (I'm not running in valgrind, valgrind is too slow)
[10:55:56] <Dominus> I mean I used to run the debug enabled build in gdb
[10:56:23] <Dominus> but the strange things even happen when I just run the build on its own
[10:56:32] <Dominus> sorry
[10:56:35] <Dominus> he he
[10:56:37] <wjp> there aren't many things that change when running in gdb
[10:56:44] <Dominus> I've misread your above sentence
[10:57:12] <Dominus> I understood something like "the problem has something to do with valgrind(
[10:58:35] <Dominus> I'll have a go at Valgrind then, probably next year
[10:59:09] <Dominus> these strange things seem a bit like some features are deactivated in the debug build...
[10:59:09] <wjp> if I remember maybe I'll try if I see the same differences
[10:59:43] <wjp> 1 (music volume) and 3 (first openend inventory) sound a bit like uninitialized variables
[11:01:59] <Dominus> maybe the run speed, too (as it seems like it just won't go to the running speed, being stuck at the fast walk)
[11:05:32] <Dominus> maybe after xmas you can help me figure out the loop problem and a crash we have at world wrap on a ship...
[11:05:58] <wjp> there are still world wrapping issues? argh
[11:06:17] <wjp> loop problem?
[11:07:13] <Dominus> the endless loop, we tried to gigure out the other day
[11:07:56] <wjp> oh, right
[11:08:00] <wjp> not awake :-)
[11:09:53] <Dominus> :)
[11:10:01] <Dominus> the world wrap thing at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102335&aid=2820687&group_id=2335
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[18:38:08] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus, I sent Jeff an email Dec 18, 2010 4:35 pm (gmt-6?) about getting permission to fix a bug he was automatically assigned.
[18:38:51] <Malignant_Manor> If I don't hear back soon, I will fix it anyway. Should I still assign the tracker to myself?
[18:44:32] <wjp> yes
[18:45:12] <Malignant_Manor> Thanks
[18:48:39] <wjp> and I don't think you have to pay much attention to automatic assignments actually
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[20:21:37] <Malignant_Manor> Looking at the bug report, he lumped several bugs together anyway.
[20:23:18] <Dominus> hi Malignant_Manor
[20:23:25] <Malignant_Manor> hi
[20:23:56] <Dominus> if I have time later I'll see about turning the automatic assignment off
[20:24:21] <Malignant_Manor> I wonder if Wizardry Dragon even remembers what npcs were in TFL before.
[20:24:54] <Dominus> makes no sense anymore, Jeff has been out of the loop for a long time and nowadays Marzo knows much more about Exult Studio anyway
[20:26:39] <Dominus> interesting stuff you are doing with the schedules. I like it very much that you are taking a deeper look there
[20:26:53] <Malignant_Manor> How did we skip a revision?
[20:27:32] <wjp> ?
[20:27:33] <Dominus> we didn't
[20:27:53] <Dominus> Jeff's Android porting does add to the revisions
[20:28:27] <Dominus> as well as the web changes
[20:28:30] <Malignant_Manor> 6602 isn't listed on the page and the Android and web are.
[20:28:52] <Dominus> http://exult.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/exult?view=revision&revision=6602
[20:29:36] <Malignant_Manor> I guess Sourceforge feed is screwing up.
[20:29:48] <Dominus> you should subscribe to the CVS mailing list (even if it is a SVN ML now)
[20:30:08] <Dominus> probably... did you get an answer to your spam ticket yet?
[20:31:02] <Malignant_Manor> Nope
[20:31:17] <Dominus> :(
[20:31:29] <Malignant_Manor> One project had about 5000 spam messages in their patch tracker.
[20:32:42] <Dominus> that's much... though it pretty much marks the project as abandoned. Still a shame about finding real patches then :(
[20:33:01] <Malignant_Manor> That's from a week of spam.
[20:33:35] <Dominus> oh, me and my big mouth
[20:34:53] <Malignant_Manor> https://sourceforge.net/top/toplist.php?type=forumposts_week
[20:35:02] <Malignant_Manor> https://sourceforge.net/top/toplist.php?type=tracker_week
[20:38:38] <Malignant_Manor> I think I may be wrong about the 5000. But some projects has 2000+ forum posts for the week and all I see is spam so far.
[20:39:06] <Malignant_Manor> It was also ranked number 2 last week.
[20:39:52] <Malignant_Manor> 5000 was likely a typo for 500.
[20:40:40] <Dominus> :)
[20:42:14] <Dominus> un-auto-assigned jeff from Exult Studio bugs, added "build system" as category and auto assigned wjp to those
[20:42:25] <wjp> hmmm :-)
[20:42:26] * Dominus quickly hides
[20:42:32] <wjp> not quick enough :-)
[20:42:43] <Dominus> only added the category :)
[20:45:29] <Malignant_Manor> actually, 215 or so pages or spam times 25
[20:45:58] <Malignant_Manor> It really does have over 5000 spam tickets. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=158490&atid=808049
[20:46:26] <Malignant_Manor> Just not from a week.
[20:49:44] <Dominus> how I notice i need more sleep: when I start making a snapshot and only after it is done I remember to update SVN...
[20:50:28] <Dominus> I'll be gone for about a week, btw... will still haunt the forum ad the bug tracker just not going to be able to test stuff
[20:57:05] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus must bring a laptop so he can't get out of work.
[21:18:03] * Dominus is not lugging around laptops anymore...
[21:19:10] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus must buy an Android phone then.
[21:19:30] <Dominus> got an ipad, happy with that :)
[21:20:20] <Dominus> now only need to port Exult to that...
[21:21:47] <Malignant_Manor> Looks like the black font for spellbook editing doesn't show up well in a few spells.
[21:22:06] <Malignant_Manor> Especially in SI.
[21:22:27] <Malignant_Manor> Unfortunately, the blinking text is annoying when on so much of the page.
[21:22:59] <Dominus> I can imagine. I can hardly make out the infinity symbol when waering the ring of reagents
[21:24:00] <Malignant_Manor> I don't really want to try and put in gump overlays at the moment though.
[21:24:28] <Dominus> I can understand that as well
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[23:15:38] <Malignant_Manor> I'm not noticing any of the problems Dominus describes the debug build as having. (Tested in Windows)
[23:34:47] <Dominus|away> bah
[23:36:08] <Dominus|away> heavy-gdb-debug?
[23:47:43] <Malignant_Manor> -ggdb3
[23:48:07] <Malignant_Manor> I didn't try in gdb though. But I don't remember the problem.
[23:48:47] <Dominus|away> is -ggdb3 the same as the configure option --enable-heavy-gdb-debug?
[23:49:20] <Dominus|away> It happens when run outside of gdb as well, so need for testing it inside gdb
[23:52:36] <Malignant_Manor> It should be. I don't think I have a makefile built at the moment.
[23:54:59] <Dominus|away> weird... let's see whether wjp can back me up... but after xmas :)
[23:55:09] <Malignant_Manor> -o0 -ggdb3 -DDEBUG
[23:58:18] <Dominus|away> DEBUG_FLAGS = -ggdb3 -Wno-long-long here