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[00:24:45] <TimQuester> yes, it was Blacksword, thank you for help
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[00:51:02] <TimQuester> ok, I return to mountain of freedom, unset 207(0x00CF) flag, free deamon and agane come to dream realm. now everything works fine, I can return by death in flames and after return crystall to Siranush
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[12:39:41] <Dominus> TimQuester: can you give details on how you ended up with a blacksword that doesn't unequip?
[12:39:53] <Dominus> did you cheat or did it happen in another way?
[12:42:36] <TimQuester> Dominus: yes, I use teleport because blacksword don't kill Lorthondo
[12:43:10] <Dominus> but when you tried again, it worked?
[12:44:01] <TimQuester> yes, I use old savefile, unset flag 0x0cf and then daemon was free I can complete Dream Realm
[12:44:59] <Dominus> hmm, what I meant was, did you still have problems killing lorthondo with the blacksword? or did you not try again?
[12:45:19] <TimQuester> If I say No, then blacksword first time ask to free, daemon must ask me agane?
[12:45:54] <Dominus> hmm, I think you have to speak to the sword againb (doubleclick) to be able to defeat lorthondo
[12:46:05] <TimQuester> I don't try agane, just set flag and teleport to lorthondo
[12:46:34] <TimQuester> I try to speak to the sword, but he only yell about cold place
[12:46:56] <TimQuester> and don't ask to free agane
[12:47:05] <Dominus> hmm, I'll try if I can take a shortcut to this part of the game
[12:47:08] <Dominus> g
[12:48:28] <TimQuester> I have savefile near lorthando
[12:48:39] <TimQuester> mom
[12:49:52] <TimQuester> http://1drv.ms/1pAltdv
[12:50:09] <TimQuester> exult00si.sav I think
[12:55:41] <Dominus> allright or rather, nothing'S right
[12:56:02] <Dominus> the sword does not react to the scene
[12:56:14] <Dominus> let me check my other Exult versions
[12:56:25] <TimQuester> I was check
[12:56:44] <Dominus> I mean my saved snapshots of the last four years
[12:56:58] <TimQuester> if decompile usecode we can see - only then cf flag unset blacksword kill lorthando
[12:57:05] <Dominus> I know this used to work (the lothandro scene)
[12:57:25] <TimQuester> if you agree to free daemon then flag unset
[12:57:41] <Dominus> yes, but he doesn't even ask me
[12:59:24] <Dominus> or has it already asked before the savegame?
[13:01:02] <TimQuester> yes, he ask me once
[13:01:06] <TimQuester> and I say No
[13:01:32] <TimQuester> I think he must ask me agane
[13:01:49] <TimQuester> maybe I wrong?
[13:05:41] <Dominus> maybe
[13:05:44] <Dominus> I'm trying a bit
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[13:19:19] <Dominus> hmmm
[13:19:33] <Dominus> will have to properly play through the mountains of freedom
[13:19:49] <Dominus> I'm close to that in my playthrough
[13:20:06] <Dominus> it seems the blacksword asks in the wrong order...
[13:21:16] <Dominus> wjp, "surprisingly" when you cheat at the beginning of SI, teleport to gorlab, fall asleep and then run through the flames, Exult will hang as well
[13:21:41] <Dominus> (since you have a working Blacksword in your inventory :))
[13:21:55] <Dominus> I tried the original and that handles this scenario without a problem
[14:34:27] <wjp> thanks for trying that
[14:34:52] <wjp> good to know that my hours of debugging yesterday weren't completely pointless ;-)
[14:39:20] <wjp> have we ever tried writing custom usecode for use in the original?
[14:39:39] <wjp> would be a nice way to test how a few of these intrinsics behave in the corner cases we're running into here
[14:50:35] <Dominus> too bad that it seems to be a problem earlier in the game
[14:51:12] <Dominus> and that needs to be played through a bit
[14:52:10] <Dominus> I'll need to search through the original SI savegames to get to the freedom part and see how it behaves in the original...
[15:07:58] <TimQuester> it is possible to turn on both text and voice for Serpent?
[15:12:05] <Dominus> unfortunately no
[15:12:44] <Dominus> something I should add to the feature requests :)
[15:13:10] <TimQuester> it hardcoded or I can change it in usecode?
[15:15:12] <Dominus> hardcoded in exult
[15:15:29] <Dominus> but a patch for that would be welcome :)
[15:19:40] <TimQuester> oh no. c++ is not my favorite language
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