#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 23 Feb 2004 (GMT)

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[00:00:22] <U7Wizard> ok
[00:00:42] <U7Wizard> that's sad
[00:01:30] <wjp> nobody managed to figure out exactly what "multiplayer exult" should be exactly
[00:01:47] <wjp> s/exactly// (one is enough :-) )
[00:02:11] <U7Wizard> well i have my idea of what would be a multiplayer ultima 7
[00:03:36] <U7Wizard> exult was coded with vi ? ;)
[00:04:06] <wjp> hm, some parts may have been; why?
[00:04:12] <U7Wizard> just joking ;)
[00:07:17] <U7Wizard> (reading the forum..)
[00:19:51] <U7Wizard> see ya
[00:20:04] <wjp> night
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[04:21:40] <Sheng_Gradilla> yay :)
[04:21:47] <Sheng_Gradilla> it's me, Gradilla Dragon
[04:33:55] <Baastuul> Hullo.
[04:44:20] <Sheng_Gradilla> at what time of the day is this channel more alive?
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[04:58:15] <Darke> Seems to be fairly random. There was conversation about 5-7 hours ago, and no doubt in a few hours time there'll be more still.
[04:58:17] <Darke> ?logs
[04:58:17] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/exultlog.php
[04:58:30] <Darke> If you look up there you'll see about when we're busiest.
[04:59:20] <Sheng_Gradilla> nice
[04:59:57] <Sheng_Gradilla> yay, I'm there ^_^
[04:59:58] <Sheng_Gradilla> :P
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[08:08:08] * wjp yawns; morning
[08:12:22] <wjp> hey, subversion 1.0 has been released; cool :-)
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[14:50:36] <WishStone> *waves*
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[14:50:59] <wjp> hi
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[15:43:07] <Dominus> hi
[15:43:46] <wjp> 'ello
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[16:49:54] <SB-X> Darke
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[17:06:04] * Dominus hates winter and snow...
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[17:56:06] <wjp> I wonder why I was disconnected but exultbot is still here
[17:57:46] <Dominus> exultbot is more used to sitting idly here for 24/7. you are only doing it for three weeks or so now...
[17:59:36] <wjp> :-)
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[19:07:20] <Dominus> aren'T people who dig up old threads called grave-diggers or so? :-)
[19:07:29] <wjp> dunno
[19:07:47] <wjp> can't say I know the term
[19:08:34] <Dominus> at least they don't discuss too bad things nowadays on our forum
[19:09:41] <Dominus> I see fingolfin on icq and wonder if I should bother him about that OS X thread...
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[19:17:48] <Dominus> wjp, I have another phorum problem I always forget to ask you about. Phorum seems to be veeery strict on allowing log-ins.
[19:18:51] <wjp> ?
[19:19:17] <Dominus> so when I'm logged in with my pc and later want to post with my laptop, I need to re-log in (the cookie is no longer being accepted "another user is already logged in with this account" or something like that)
[19:19:34] <wjp> oh, that
[19:19:43] <Dominus> yeah, mildly annoying
[19:21:29] <Dominus> I think it even gets set off by switching browsers (ie/firefox)
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[19:23:25] <wjp> that's just the way it works; not easy to change
[19:23:43] <Dominus> thought so
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[21:13:34] <wjp> hi
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[22:19:39] <WishStone> huhu wjp, sorry about that
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[22:33:41] <wjp> hi Fingolfin, wb Ranger :-)
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[22:34:16] <WishStone> *grumbles*
[22:37:13] <Fingolfin> hiya wjp
[22:40:46] <wjp> Fingolfin: subversion 1.0 has been released today (finally ;-) )
[22:41:01] <Fingolfin> yes I am aware
[22:41:04] <WishStone> What on earth is a subversion? :P
[22:41:05] <Fingolfin> it's pretty hard to miss that
[22:41:11] <Fingolfin> it was even in the heise newsticker
[22:41:14] <wjp> Fingolfin: yeah, I guess :-)
[22:41:22] <Fingolfin> but I learned about it first via the SVN announce mailing list ... =)
[22:41:29] <wjp> :-)
[22:42:02] <Fingolfin> and before that I knew it was coming because the status page told me so.... hence it wasn#t really a surprise. it was more a surprise to see all the media coverage, including many fals claims etc. <sigh>
[22:42:19] <wjp> false claims?
[22:43:26] <Fingolfin> ah well, incorrect flames against svn (or also incorrect defenses :-)
[22:43:42] <wjp> hm, sounds like slashdot :-)
[22:43:44] <Fingolfin> it's pretty tiressome to see yet another GNU arch zealot jump up and down trying to paint subversion as bad shit
[22:44:14] <Fingolfin> or OTOH statements telling me that "subversion is a replacement for CVS. Amonst other improvements it can deal with binary files".... well CVS can do that, too
[22:44:46] <Fingolfin> makes me wonder how/if certain magzines actually check what they print ... =)
[22:45:06] <wjp> well, subversion handles binary files better than CVS, AFAIK
[22:45:16] <wjp> (I don't think CVS uses any kind of diff-ing for binaries, right?)
[22:46:05] <Fingolfin> it does handle them better, yes
[22:46:09] <Fingolfin> and you are right
[22:47:10] <Fingolfin> so it's better. but when you write "Amonst other improvements it can deal with binary files" that implies CVS can't deal with them at all. I'd expect a reporter to know the fine line, language wise.... :-)
[22:47:30] <wjp> yeah, I know; the statement is wrong :-)
[22:47:45] <Fingolfin> maybe I am a hypocrit, but reading stuff like that where I notice the slightly incorrect & misleading info, makes me wonder about the cases where I don't notice because I know less about the subject in question
[22:48:28] <wjp> yeah... that thought occurred to me too a couple of times :-)
[22:50:37] <wjp> (although mostly regarding papers and magazines)
[22:50:57] <Fingolfin> yeah
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[22:51:58] <WishStone> hrrrmpf..............
[22:56:11] <wjp> oooh, I have an extra logo next to my name in the pentagram project page on SF :-)
[22:56:39] <Fingolfin> so either you are rich, or greedy...
[22:56:41] * Fingolfin checks
[22:56:42] <wjp> and they changed the 'donation' logo to fit better, I see
[22:57:03] <wjp> (the extra logo is the project admin one)
[22:57:10] * Fingolfin was only one of many people who told the SF.net staff that the "hammer" didn't look like one =)
[22:57:15] <Fingolfin> ahh
[22:57:22] <wjp> that was a hammer? ;-)
[22:57:22] <Fingolfin> then you are power hungry, obviously
[22:57:30] <Fingolfin> supposedly :-)
[22:58:05] * Fingolfin isn't sure if the new icons are actually better :-/
[22:59:05] <wjp> hm, you have more logos than me :-)
[22:59:06] <wjp> it kind of looks like a stethoscope with a handle on it
[22:59:55] <wjp> why is my icon differently coloured?
[23:00:01] <Fingolfin> the wheel is for donors
[23:00:12] <Fingolfin> the "spoon" (hammer? :-) on it means I am also a subscriber
[23:00:15] <wjp> oh, I see I just barely made the yellow category :-)
[23:00:18] <Fingolfin> the color I think indicates how much you donated or so
[23:00:27] <Fingolfin> see also
[23:00:27] <Fingolfin> https://sourceforge.net/help/icon_legend.php?context=site_donor&uname=twogood&return_to=%2F
[23:00:36] <Fingolfin> err
[23:00:37] <Fingolfin> https://sourceforge.net/help/icon_legend.php
[23:00:37] <Fingolfin> :-)
[23:00:38] <wjp> I just found that page
[23:01:03] <wjp> (by performing the incredibly strange action of actually clicking on the icon... I should've thought of that earlier ;-) )
[23:01:19] <Fingolfin> heheh
[23:01:34] <Fingolfin> clever idea to make the wheels color coded.
[23:01:51] <Fingolfin> that gives us geeks a reason to donate more than just the minimal amount, if we want to upgrade to a better icon <g>
[23:01:51] <wjp> yeah, makes me want to pay more to get a prettier colour ;-)
[23:03:01] <Fingolfin> hehe
[23:03:36] * wjp is still considering subscribing
[23:11:59] * wjp tries to cvs2svn pentagram's cvs repos into subversion to see what happens :-)
[23:12:32] <wjp> seems to automatically group together cvs commits into svn changesets
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[23:38:54] <wjp> enough playing with subversion for now; I should be going :-)
[23:38:55] <wjp> g'night
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[23:41:56] <WishStone> .........