#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 23 Jun 2003 (GMT)

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[13:36:21] <Colourless> hi
[13:36:47] <olivieryk> hey!!!
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[15:35:30] <wjp> hi
[15:35:47] <Colourless> wb
[15:35:55] <Fingolfin> yo
[18:05:35] <Fingolfin> WOW
[18:05:45] <Fingolfin> those new apple devel tools really rock, it seems =)
[18:05:52] <Fingolfin> according to the features being listed here
[18:06:04] <Fingolfin> (for Mac OS X that is :-)
[18:06:07] <wjp> where is here? :-)
[18:06:38] <Fingolfin> #opendarwin
[18:06:40] <Fingolfin> and #openmac
[18:06:45] <Fingolfin> live WWDC keynote coverage
[18:06:45] <Fingolfin> [20:05] <michaelm> predictive compile
[18:06:45] <Fingolfin> [20:05] <michaelm> starts compiling while you are still editing
[18:06:45] <Fingolfin> [20:05] <michaelm> improves compile time by 2x
[18:06:52] <Fingolfin> [20:06] <michaelm> make changes to apps while they are running
[18:06:57] <Fingolfin> (like you can do in VC, AFAIK)
[18:07:03] <wjp> uh, wow
[18:08:12] <Fingolfin> and of course gcc 3.3 =)
[18:08:38] <Fingolfin> loads of changes to the dev suite
[18:08:43] <Fingolfin> they call it "Xcode" :-)
[18:08:53] <Fingolfin> also distributed compiles
[18:09:04] <Fingolfin> i.e. like with distcc (no idea if that is used or if they rolled their own)
[18:17:36] <Fingolfin> and of course we get the new G5 (the specs for the machines as floated since a couple days ago seem to be true)
[18:18:36] <Fingolfin> see also http://www.chaosmint.com/ for full coverage =)
[18:22:01] <wjp> almost makes me want to switch to apple :-)
[18:22:36] <Fingolfin> I hope I can download the new dev tools later today
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[21:15:19] <Truuper> Is there any way to force NPCs to join your party? Notable NPC 6, Trellek?
[21:15:41] <wjp> you might be able to set the party flag in the F2 cheat screen
[21:16:03] <Colourless> you can't
[21:16:10] <Truuper> I tried that, for any NPC, including the NPCs that normall your can get, and it won't change.
[21:16:59] <Truuper> I saw the Trellek Paperdoll Gump, and was curious to see if I could get him (or make a Emp party member)
[21:17:00] <wjp> why do you want to make Trellek join, btw?
[21:17:35] <Colourless> you wouldn't get his gump even if you did get him to join
[21:18:14] <Truuper> SO the "In party" flag change is broken at the moment?
[21:18:34] <Colourless> yes. it's not implemented
[21:18:39] <Truuper> Crap
[21:18:55] <wjp> you're welcome to implement it yourself :-)
[21:19:02] <Truuper> Heh, only wish I could
[21:20:18] <Truuper> How would one create a spellbook with all the spells in it?
[21:20:29] <Truuper> Using ExultStudio
[21:20:56] <wjp> does ES support spellbooks properly?
[21:21:22] <Truuper> Don't you jsut have to change the quality setting? That's what it was in the original game
[21:22:27] <Colourless> no. spell book uses more than just quality for the spells it's got
[21:22:43] <wjp> that'll never fit
[21:22:53] <wjp> there are 64 spells or so, quality is only 16 bits
[21:22:57] <Colourless> needs 9 bytes :-)
[21:23:25] <Colourless> 9 circles of 8 spells
[21:23:35] <Truuper> Yeah, Circle 0
[21:23:49] <wjp> oh, right, 9
[21:27:58] <Truuper> How do I get party members back? Somehow I've got two stuck in a mountain
[21:28:21] <wjp> just teleport to a random spot with alt-T. It should teleport everyone to you
[21:28:35] <wjp> or walk far away
[21:28:36] <Colourless> time for me to go
[21:28:37] <Colourless> cya
[21:28:45] <wjp> I think they 'cheat' when you get too far :-)
[21:28:53] <wjp> night
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[21:29:44] <wjp> indeed :-)
[21:30:10] <Truuper> Its like they've vanished. I can teleport to where they are using the cheat menu, but they don't show up
[21:30:38] <wjp> oh?
[21:30:39] <wjp> what happens if you alt-t?
[21:30:45] <Truuper> Nothing
[21:31:11] <Truuper> I lost them somehow in the bee cave, but the spot they are at is north of LB's castle.
[21:31:39] <wjp> do you teleport yourself when you press alt-t?
[21:31:44] <Truuper> Yes
[21:31:57] <wjp> do you get your party's inventories when you press i repeatedly?
[21:32:16] <Truuper> Only the current members.
[21:32:20] <wjp> did you consider the possibility that they died? :-)
[21:32:52] <Truuper> Oh.
[21:32:58] * Truuper slaps forehead
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