#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 24 Jan 2011 (GMT)

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[00:02:48] <Malignant_Manor> Exult Studio has a -c configfile command line
[00:03:30] <Malignant_Manor> It also has -m modname
[00:04:42] <Dominus> I'm fixing Exult documentation, ES docs is still the ugly step child, which gets treated badly :)
[00:05:10] <Dominus> but noted :)
[00:05:52] <Malignant_Manor> -x and -g have a space between FOLDER and GAMENAME
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[00:15:55] <Malignant_Manor> It doesn't seem to matter if -c is before -p
[00:17:00] <Malignant_Manor> Yes, the default save location is (exult folder)/gamename when you use the -p command line
[00:17:21] <Dominus> thanks and that doesn't change if -c points to another cfg?
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[00:17:37] <Dominus> oh here he left :)
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[00:23:34] <Malignant_Manor> That's for Exult, but I should probably try another test or two.
[00:24:05] <Dominus> Malignant_Manor: you've been gone, I'm not sure what your last sentence refers to :)
[00:24:39] <Malignant_Manor> >>thanks and that doesn't change if -c points to another cfg?
[00:25:28] <Dominus> ok, so that doesn't change on -c pathtocfg and -p?
[00:26:48] <Malignant_Manor> Nope
[00:27:03] <Malignant_Manor> Exult Studio doesn't seem to mind the order either
[00:27:17] <Dominus> cool, thanks
[00:28:08] <Dominus> up and away
[00:28:13] <Dominus> improved docs
[00:29:16] <Dominus> and ssh into webspace... waiting for shell to start...
[00:30:34] <Dominus> web also updated
[00:46:02] <Dominus> thanks for checking the docs
[00:46:07] <Dominus> I'm sleeping now :)
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[00:46:46] <Malignant_Manor> You're welcome, looks like you didn't update ES
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[02:40:34] <Malignant_Manor> wjp: , that endless loop Dominus was talking to you about awhile back is in Map_chunk::add_dependencies http://pastebin.com/SmVsykax
[04:09:50] <Malignant_Manor> I went and commented out function calls to it and it hangs still. I'm in Windows so I can't use GDB properly. (ctr-c doesn't work
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[08:26:06] <wjp> Malignant_Manor: Dominus|zzzzzz and I got a bit further than that if you look through the logs. IIRC something was being added to a chunk's object list while it was already in it
[08:27:34] <wjp> (14 Dec 2010)
[08:28:30] <wjp> and then a bit further than that even, it seems
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[17:51:32] <Malignant_Manor> wjp: Sorry, for some reason I couldn't remember you doing much since Dominus was the one running the debugger.
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[21:51:48] <Dominus> eventually I woke up
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[22:29:14] <Malignant_Manor> <stereo> should probably be yes or no
[22:29:31] <Malignant_Manor> You have true as the default value.
[22:31:15] <Dominus> probably or definitely?
[22:31:16] <Dominus> :)
[22:31:42] <Malignant_Manor> Well having the value as false has it use stereo
[22:31:53] <Malignant_Manor> So definitely
[22:32:19] <Malignant_Manor> I should show the new screen shot of the audio options gump.
[22:32:28] <Malignant_Manor> more documentation
[22:32:41] <Dominus> noooooooooooooooo
[22:33:15] <Malignant_Manor> I don't like the gameplay options name since most of them are interface options.
[22:33:58] <Dominus> I mentioned this too when you made combat options to misc options - the names aren't that good
[22:34:14] <Dominus> maybe "options" and "more options"
[22:34:41] <Dominus> gives us the possibility to add "even more options" and "more more options"
[22:34:48] <Dominus> if we need those
[22:36:05] <Malignant_Manor> New audio options gump is done except for killing the audio system after sample rate or speaker type is changed.
[22:36:35] <Malignant_Manor> I fixed it so that music restarts if it was stopped by the audio options saving.
[22:36:51] <Dominus> that is nice
[22:39:00] <Malignant_Manor> Too bad subtitles are hardcoded in usecode.
[22:39:31] <Dominus> yes
[22:40:00] <Dominus> I noticed that too
[22:41:01] <Malignant_Manor> I could take them out of the menu if speech was enabled but without the speech from usecode, it doesn't seem worth the effort.
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[22:52:58] <Malignant_Manor> Another nice little section of code I found,
[22:52:59] <Malignant_Manor> friend class Tired_of_compiler_warnings;
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[23:29:23] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: Here's the patch. http://pastebin.com/v9cj9aGB
[23:30:04] <Dominus> I'll have to take a look later, right now I'm updating my build environment
[23:30:20] <Dominus> later means, about half an hour I guess
[23:30:35] <Malignant_Manor> Okay
[23:30:54] <Malignant_Manor> This is something that could easily cause issues.
[23:34:07] <Malignant_Manor> Do you still want me to move the scroll with mouse option to the gameplay options gump?
[23:35:08] <Dominus> not so sure anymore
[23:35:30] <Dominus> but not so sure whether this is just because I don't want to reorder things
[23:35:52] <Dominus> since it is only a cheat option, maybe make it only visible when cheats are enabled :)
[23:39:24] <Malignant_Manor> That seems good.
[23:39:48] <Malignant_Manor> There's probably more cheat only options.
[23:40:55] <Dominus> and so yes, if you make it cheat only, it should be in the same gump as cheats enable/disable
[23:41:45] <Dominus> where you place them I leave to you :)
[23:42:16] <Dominus> you could place cheats in the misc gump, for example
[23:42:16] <Malignant_Manor> as different as possible for more documentation changes?
[23:42:42] <Dominus> he he, when I have to touch it anyway I don't care much how much I have to do :)
[23:43:04] <Dominus> and honestly, moving stuff around in the docs is not taking too many brain cells :)
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[23:47:34] <Malignant_Manor> With these you canchange the black defult border color
[23:47:41] <Malignant_Manor> two typos
[23:47:51] <Malignant_Manor> canchange = can change
[23:47:59] <Malignant_Manor> defult = default
[23:48:03] <Malignant_Manor> readme
[23:49:24] <Dominus> I promise to run a spell checker next time I work on the docs...
[23:49:48] <Malignant_Manor> That doesn't help me a lot of times.
[23:50:31] <Malignant_Manor> It's easier when it is someone else.
[23:51:29] <Dominus> if I do it regularly and learn the common good words then it works most of the time. But things like availlable I'll always do wrong
[23:52:22] <Malignant_Manor> All this work and no one really reads it.
[23:52:25] <Dominus> but someone else always catches additional stuff
[23:52:30] <Dominus> he he
[23:53:03] <Dominus> I do it because I take joy in yelling "RTFM" at people
[23:55:32] <Malignant_Manor> Cmd-V Create object (that is chosen in the shape browser) on OS X
[23:55:54] <Malignant_Manor> That key is used for everyone.
[23:56:05] <Malignant_Manor> Well, the alt instead of cmd
[23:56:06] <Cahaan> damn I always tend to restart U7 at the beginning so I know the first 30% by heart but I don't know the other 70% :s
[23:56:23] <Cahaan> I should be more focused!
[23:57:10] <Dominus> thanks Malignant_Manor, I wasn't sure of that
[23:57:52] <Malignant_Manor> There's not really a good way to have separate keys per OS.