#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 24 Jul 2003 (GMT)

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[10:39:29] <Dominus> hi
[10:39:31] <Dominus> look at my newest post in the Exult Studio thread....
[10:39:54] <Dominus> could have spared me a couple of posts and tests on my exult and studio....
[10:41:26] <Dominus> I knew there was an easy solution...
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[13:34:48] <Colourless> hi
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[17:14:09] <artaxerxes> hi all
[17:14:21] <Colourless> uh
[17:14:29] <Colourless> i mean... hi :-)
[17:14:47] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[17:14:51] <wjp> hi
[17:15:03] <artaxerxes> you guys know a bit about glade and glade-2 ?
[17:15:22] <Colourless> i know nothing!
[17:15:29] <Colourless> (really i don't)
[17:16:22] <artaxerxes> I created a UI, converted the XML file into C, compiled the C code. But when I ran the prog, nothing happens. Not even the fabulous UI I build shows!
[17:16:30] <Colourless> regardless, looks like my 'uh' responce was justified, you came here to acquire our knowledge, even if we have none :-)
[17:16:57] <artaxerxes> well, I came here because you are the best!
[17:19:14] <wjp> glade or glade-2?
[17:19:43] <artaxerxes> currently using glade-2
[17:20:01] <wjp> not using libglade, I guess?
[17:20:38] <artaxerxes> what do you mean?
[17:20:52] <wjp> ok, not using libglade
[17:20:53] <wjp> ;-)
[17:21:32] <wjp> what's in your main() ?
[17:21:58] <artaxerxes> the most interesting part is:
[17:22:08] <artaxerxes> gtk_set_locale()
[17:22:20] <artaxerxes> gtk_init(&argc,&argv)
[17:22:28] <artaxerxes> add_pixmap_directory(blabla)
[17:22:34] <artaxerxes> gtk_main()
[17:22:36] <artaxerxes> return 0
[17:23:43] <wjp> hm, no windows?
[17:23:50] <artaxerxes> I used glade to export the C code, so I guess that would fit under "using libglade"
[17:24:05] <artaxerxes> I do have a main window, yes.
[17:24:41] <wjp> there should be something like
[17:24:47] <wjp> window1 = create_window1 ();
[17:24:48] <wjp> gtk_widget_show (window1);
[17:25:01] <artaxerxes> bummer, glade-2 did not put that up!
[17:26:02] <wjp> I just started a new glade-2 project, added a window, built the project, and compiled, and it works
[17:26:12] <wjp> hm, wait a sec
[17:26:25] <wjp> IIRC, it only creates main.c if it doesn't exist
[17:26:34] <wjp> did you maybe build the project before adding any windows?
[17:26:41] <wjp> if so, try removing main.c and then rebuilding it
[17:27:06] <artaxerxes> will try
[17:27:55] <artaxerxes> that was it!
[17:28:08] <artaxerxes> thank you very much!
[17:29:37] <wjp> np :-)
[17:30:44] <artaxerxes> it's my first time with glade.
[17:30:57] <artaxerxes> I'm gonna use ExultStudio to get inspiration on how to use it
[17:31:10] <artaxerxes> s/to use it/to use glade
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[20:10:54] <Dominus> Colourless: If I set up a Windows 2000 on one of my partitions and make it able to compile Exult and Exult Studio, would you be willing to go through a debug session with me to solve the connection problem between the two programs?
[20:11:41] <Colourless> ha... not really. the ipc code isn
[20:11:45] <Colourless> t very nice
[20:12:41] <Dominus> he he, so we just wait until MS drops W2k support and then we can say "Ms doesn't support, so why should we?" :-)
[20:12:45] <Colourless> i can easy enough put in a work around that 'should' get it running on 2K
[20:12:58] <Colourless> (just force it to use the 9x code)
[20:13:16] * Dominus shrugs
[20:13:19] <Dominus> okay with me
[20:18:27] <Colourless> might as well commit this 2 line change to servewin32.cc
[20:18:53] <Dominus> yeah, would make wizardry dragon happy
[20:19:04] <Dominus> btw is our webspace dead again?
[20:20:57] <wjp> looks like it
[20:21:23] <Dominus> he he, must be, it is release time :-)
[20:22:51] <Colourless> we haven't released yet
[20:23:03] <Colourless> (officially)
[20:23:10] <Colourless> but i think sourceforge knows that it's coming :-)
[20:23:21] <Dominus> as almost always :-)
[20:23:26] <wjp> there is already a 1.1beta1 release on SF
[20:23:34] <wjp> hidden, but it's there :-)
[20:24:19] <Dominus> so how about getting the release on the way tomorrow?
[20:24:32] <wjp> works for me
[20:25:03] <Colourless> fine here
[20:25:26] <wjp> Fingolfin?
[20:26:31] <Fingolfin> well, what do you mean with "release tomorrow" ? create a tarball tomorrow, tag it as 1.1, and hope it works; or create a 1.1 branch tomorrow (or do we already have one?)
[20:26:47] <Fingolfin> latest CVS seems to work on OS X, in any case
[20:27:01] <Dominus> both?
[20:27:02] <wjp> I'm guessing the former :-)
[20:27:26] <Dominus> I mean tagging as 1.1.beta1
[20:27:47] <Fingolfin> well I have no idea how you plan to handle the release. It's just that I made lots of bad experiences with "just take current CVS, put it in a tarball, and call it 1.1. =) using branches worked very well in e.g. ScummVM - that way it's trivial to make a x.x.1 bug fix release
[20:28:06] <wjp> well, we're not going to call it 1.1
[20:28:11] <wjp> it's a beta for 1.1
[20:28:37] <Dominus> didn't we tag cvs before, before a release?
[20:28:51] <Colourless> yes we do
[20:28:56] <wjp> cvs will definitely be tagged
[20:29:09] <wjp> branching for the 1.1beta up to 1.1 (and beyond) would probably be good too
[20:29:26] <wjp> so then the 'main' branch would go on to 1.2 or something
[20:29:51] <wjp> I'll ask Jeff on the ML
[20:29:52] <Dominus> do we really need to branch again?
[20:29:53] <Colourless> my personal opinion, is that we shouldn't bother with a branch this time
[20:30:02] <Dominus> mine too
[20:30:23] <wjp> it's true there probably won't be many changes
[20:30:32] <Colourless> 1.0->1.1 was all the really disruptive changes
[20:57:23] <Fingolfin> <shrug>
[20:57:29] <Fingolfin> I don't care that much, I guess
[20:57:36] <Fingolfin> although setting up a branhc is a matter of 5 minutes
[20:58:05] <wjp> I don't care much either way
[20:58:19] <Dominus> that is true as well, so we might do it in case we think we might need it in the future
[20:58:33] <Dominus> definitely something for the ML
[20:58:46] <wjp> for now we might as well not branch, though
[20:58:57] <wjp> it would just mean we'd have to commit every fix twice
[21:23:10] <artaxerxes> bye all
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[22:43:38] <Dominus> oh, the joice of crappy CD-Rs
[22:43:48] <Dominus> joys
[22:45:27] <wjp> so.... who's Joice? ;-)
[22:45:44] <Dominus> he he
[22:46:34] <wjp> time to go
[22:46:36] <wjp> 'night
[22:46:39] <Dominus> all my old mp3s stored on CD-Rs and according to Murphys Law the most wanted ones are not recoverable from the bad CD-R...
[22:46:46] <wjp> :-(
[22:47:17] <Dominus> in this case the Cardigans cover version of Black Sabbath's Ironman ...
[22:47:29] <Dominus> but don't let that distract you
[22:47:33] <Dominus> good night
[22:47:36] <Dominus> sleep tight
[22:48:08] <wjp> I'm afraid I'll be distracted by U8 animations anyway :-)
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[22:48:19] <Dominus> he he
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