#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 24 Oct 2001 (GMT)

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[11:42:14] <fingolfin> hi
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[12:06:34] <fingolfin> hi Kirben
[12:06:43] <Kirben> Hi
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[13:10:24] <Colourless> hi
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[14:44:11] <Nadir> hi colourless
[14:44:27] <Colourless> hi
[14:44:38] <Nadir> phorum is phucked
[14:46:43] <Colourless> not again
[14:47:22] <Nadir> what's wrong ? the db is up
[14:48:20] <Colourless> i don't know. usually fingolfin or wjp look at the problems
[14:48:37] <Colourless> this has happened before though
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[15:10:49] <wjp> hi
[15:11:00] <Colourless> hi
[15:20:16] <Nadir> wjp: phorum doesn't work.
[15:20:25] * wjp looks
[15:20:33] <wjp> indeed
[15:21:49] <wjp> wjpalenstijn@usw-pr-shell2:~$ mysql -h mysql -u exult -D exult
[15:21:49] <wjp> Segmentation fault
[15:21:53] <wjp> strange
[15:22:24] <Colourless> indeed
[15:22:29] <Nadir> wfm
[15:22:40] <Nadir> mysql -uexult --database=exult --host=mysql -p
[15:22:40] <Nadir> Enter password:
[15:22:40] <Nadir> Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g.
[15:22:40] <Nadir> Your MySQL connection id is 5243924 to server version: 3.23.36
[15:22:40] <Nadir> Type 'help' for help.
[15:22:41] <Nadir> mysql>
[15:23:09] <wjp> does a "select * from exultmain limit 1" work?
[15:23:24] <Nadir> yep
[15:24:18] <Nadir> what is the problem usually ?
[15:24:38] <wjp> once the server was down, once the forum data file was deleted
[15:25:04] <Nadir> what data file ?
[15:25:41] <wjp> oh, could you please make exult/htdocs/forum/exxadmin/forums group rx?
[15:25:51] <wjp> a file in there, btw :-)
[15:26:58] <wjp> thx
[15:27:11] <wjp> grmbl
[15:27:13] <wjp> gone again
[15:27:27] <Nadir> gone again what ?
[15:27:35] <wjp> did you make a backup of that file, btw?
[15:27:58] <Nadir> what session0.php ?
[15:28:15] <wjp> I think there should be a file named "0.php" in there too
[15:28:19] <Nadir> no
[15:28:22] <wjp> no, 1.php now
[15:28:28] <Nadir> no
[15:28:38] <Nadir> are we screwed ?
[15:28:57] <wjp> about as much as the last time, yes :-)
[15:29:03] <Nadir> so
[15:29:18] <wjp> so, I recreate the forum, and make a backup of the file this time :-)
[15:29:32] <Colourless> sounds like a very good plan :-)
[15:29:50] <wjp> I wanted to do that the last time, but I couldn't access the file :/
[15:29:58] <wjp> and then I forgot about it... *sniff*
[15:30:14] <wjp> oh, it was 2.php by now
[15:30:23] <wjp> soon-to-be 3.php
[15:30:49] * wjp drops forum
[15:32:50] <wjp> ok, forum is back
[15:32:50] <wjp> umm
[15:32:50] <wjp> uh oh
[15:32:50] <wjp> it looks kind of empty
[15:33:48] <Nadir> the db is now empty...
[15:33:50] <Colourless> yeah it does
[15:33:57] * wjp wonders what happened there
[15:34:00] <Nadir> mysql> show tables;
[15:34:00] <Nadir> +-----------------+
[15:34:00] <Nadir> | Tables_in_exult |
[15:34:00] <Nadir> +-----------------+
[15:34:00] <Nadir> | forums |
[15:34:01] <Nadir> | forums_auth |
[15:34:03] <Nadir> +-----------------+
[15:34:05] <Nadir> 2 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[15:34:24] <Nadir> there should be 4 tables
[15:34:31] <wjp> yeah
[15:34:36] <wjp> hmm
[15:34:37] <wjp> interesting
[15:34:47] <wjp> the last backup of the DB I have is from...
[15:34:49] * wjp checks
[15:34:50] <Colourless> so, any idea what cause the problem
[15:35:04] <wjp> 9 oct.
[15:35:05] <Nadir> WE HAVE A BACKUP ???????
[15:35:21] <Colourless> which is 2 week old :-(
[15:35:30] <wjp> I should've made one 5 minutes ago, I guess :/
[15:35:35] <wjp> *sigh*
[15:35:48] <Nadir> well, the forum is full of rubbish anyway :)
[15:35:58] <wjp> true... easy way to get rid of the flamewars :-)
[15:36:13] <Colourless> :-)
[15:36:33] <wjp> restore the backup and/or just put up a "sorry..." post?
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[15:36:57] <wjp> hi
[15:37:05] <Nadir> fingolfin: we have a problem
[15:37:13] <fingolfin> hiya
[15:37:15] <fingolfin> crowded :=
[15:37:20] <Nadir> (or a solution, depending on how you look at it)
[15:37:20] <wjp> not only was the forum broken again, but ...
[15:37:27] <fingolfin> I didn't touch CVS!
[15:37:30] <fingolfin> oh ok :)
[15:37:41] <wjp> ... the DB is now empty too :/
[15:37:53] <wjp> which would probably be because I neglected to make a backup...
[15:38:01] <fingolfin> ouuch
[15:38:05] <wjp> typical... last time I did make a backup, but I didn't need it
[15:38:09] <fingolfin> but anywway... this shouldn't happen, no?
[15:38:12] <fingolfin> Ücough*
[15:38:25] <fingolfin> you already talked to SF staff?
[15:38:30] <wjp> phorum seems to like deleting the forum config file every now and then
[15:38:44] <Nadir> phorum 3.3 final is out
[15:38:48] <wjp> not much SF can do about it, unless they deleted it :-)
[15:39:04] <wjp> oh good... then we can say: "Because of the upgrade, we had to reset the forum" !
[15:39:08] <wjp> *phew* ;-)
[15:39:53] <fingolfin> heheheh
[15:45:31] <Nadir> but I can't remember how I personalized it
[15:45:42] <wjp> what do you mean?
[15:46:27] <Nadir> well, there was some customization involved (fonts, etc.) can we just "port" footer.php an header.php ?
[15:46:57] <wjp> I guess
[15:47:05] <wjp> it's not that big an upgrade, after all
[15:47:11] <Nadir> let's go for it !
[15:47:19] <Nadir> (I can't)
[15:47:29] <wjp> you can't?
[15:47:41] <Nadir> don't have time today.
[15:47:46] <wjp> oh, ok
[15:47:49] <wjp> I guess I do
[15:48:31] <Nadir> in fact, I've got to go now. Bye
[15:48:39] <wjp> bye
[15:49:02] <Nadir> ah, one last thing: remember to update the credits.txt :)
[15:49:13] <Nadir> (and I'll do the weekly update tomorrow)
[15:49:18] <wjp> k, thanks
[15:49:23] <Nadir> bye-de-bye
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[15:50:30] <Colourless> someone want to post a "eer sorry about that" post in the forum?
[15:50:39] <fingolfin> errr
[15:50:41] <wjp> not really :-)
[15:50:57] <fingolfin> hm
[15:51:02] <fingolfin> we wait till somebody asks
[15:51:02] <wjp> but we do have to have one :/
[15:51:07] <wjp> :-)
[15:51:14] <fingolfin> then we say: "what do you mean, everything is gone" and play a bit dumb :)
[15:51:20] <wjp> right :-)
[15:51:48] <fingolfin> "oh there were other messages in the forum? I never noticed, I wasn't reading it regulary"
[15:55:14] <wjp> I wonder if we can change the mysql db password...
[15:58:13] <wjp> ok... I'm currently installing the forum in exult.sf.net/phorum-3.3
[15:58:18] <wjp> I'll move it back to the old spot later
[16:00:26] <wjp> hmm, looks like they didn't quite resolve all bugs yet
[16:00:51] <wjp> in the form I entered: Table Name: 'exultmain' Table already exists: checked
[16:01:05] <wjp> this results in: "error. Table exultmain already exists"
[16:05:04] <wjp> argh... this thing is _so_ broken
[16:16:31] <wjp> ARGH
[16:16:40] <wjp> why didn't Nadir make the .phorum dir group writable
[16:16:41] <wjp> ah well
[16:19:18] * wjp shoots phorum
[16:29:37] <wjp> well, someone already posted something
[16:29:40] <wjp> that was fast :-)
[16:34:49] * fingolfin is back
[16:35:02] * fingolfin peeks at the forum
[16:35:11] <wjp> it's back - sort of
[16:36:49] <fingolfin> tada, I posted a comment :)
[16:37:17] <wjp> could you repost that in a new thread?
[16:37:47] <wjp> add a small note saying we'll try to backup the config/posts :-)
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[16:39:17] <sethion> hallo
[16:39:48] <wjp> hi
[16:39:51] <Colourless> hi
[16:43:27] <fingolfin> =)
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[16:46:15] <Colourless> so, now that we have middle mouse button support, we now need Mouse Wheel Support :-)
[16:46:24] <fingolfin> I reposted my post in a new thread, wjp, as you asked for
[16:46:28] <wjp> thanks
[16:46:33] <fingolfin> Colourless: for what?
[16:46:34] <fingolfin> :)
[16:46:40] <Colourless> slider gumps :-)
[16:46:57] <fingolfin> horizontal slider gumps? :)
[16:47:02] <Colourless> yeah
[16:47:04] <wjp> scrolling in the save gump
[16:47:34] <Colourless> yeah that too
[16:54:26] <wjp> I just sent you an e-mail with the not-so-new admin pw
[16:56:06] <Colourless> k
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[18:37:18] <Colourless> oi, the forum upgrade broke HTML
[18:39:16] <wjp> hmm, yes, lots of errors
[18:40:52] <wjp> but they seem to be caused be inside links?
[18:40:54] <wjp> hmm
[18:41:42] <Colourless> ok, want me to enable it?
[18:42:02] * Colourless found the settings
[18:42:18] <wjp> settings? enable?
[18:43:28] <Colourless> go to the Manage page for the Exult Discussion forum. The options are in Edit Properties
[18:44:21] <wjp> oh... wait... you mean HTML in posts
[18:44:26] <Colourless> yes :-)
[18:44:34] <Colourless> what did you think i meant?
[18:44:39] <wjp> HTML validator :-)
[18:44:46] <Colourless> oh :-)
[18:44:46] <wjp> which it also broke, btw :-)
[18:45:09] <wjp> the links you gave are 404's, btw
[18:45:09] <Colourless> so, what html settings do we want?
[18:45:24] <wjp> right column on, left column off?
[18:46:45] <Colourless> err, don't you want images?
[18:46:55] <wjp> oh ok, why not
[18:47:15] <Colourless> ok
[18:47:19] <wjp> we used to have them disabled. (not that the setting actually worked... but it was disabled :-) )
[18:48:33] <Colourless> ok, i've done it
[18:51:02] <wjp> I removed the 'valid HTML 4' button, btw
[18:51:21] <Colourless> :-)
[18:55:32] <wjp> heh, that right portrait still looks a bit too SI-ish, I think
[18:56:07] <Colourless> aye, it does, but I didn't make it
[18:56:25] <wjp> I know
[18:57:24] <Colourless> if someone want to do new different portraits they can
[18:57:39] * Colourless is going to commit, then go
[18:57:45] <wjp> k
[18:58:43] <wjp> I'll be gone for a while too
[18:58:44] <wjp> bye
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[18:59:10] <Colourless> cya
[19:24:46] <Colourless> time to go
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