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[05:48:32] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: I can read the exultmsg in the flx but I cannot have it copied to the ifstream.
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[10:15:54] <Dominus> thanks for trying as well, Malignant. I think ifstream doesn't work for flx files. For the autonotes (notebook_gump.cc) it is done differently but it's over my head
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[12:59:22] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult: http://exult.sourceforge.net/ - The open source engine for Ultima 7
[12:59:22] --- Topic for #exult set by Colourless at Fri Sep 12 00:40:42 2008
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[13:24:38] <Marzo> Dominus, wjp: thoughts on these? https://trello.com/c/2ztoeCRZ/23-improved-codepage-support https://trello.com/c/0ECiLtSj/4-support-u7-codepage https://trello.com/c/MZeaHaOx/20-internationalization
[13:25:41] <Marzo> (Malignant_Manor too, when [if] you read the log)
[13:33:59] <Dominus> Marzo: I have no opinion on codepage stuff.
[13:34:26] <Dominus> I'm harrassing the non github members to register atm
[13:34:44] <Marzo> :-)
[13:34:51] <Dominus> Colourless replied he would show up as "wench"
[13:35:17] <Marzo> Anyway, I added sevral labels for better organizing the todo list
[13:35:39] <Marzo> So I can keep track of what was reported and what I added on my own
[13:36:32] <Dominus> It's a big and growing to do list ;)
[13:38:18] <Marzo> It is, yes; but it helps me keep organized
[13:38:41] <Marzo> I have found out several things I had started to do in the past which I have no memory of
[13:38:50] <Marzo> And which never went forward because of it
[13:38:53] <Marzo> I want to prevent that
[13:42:10] <Marzo> For example, I have no idea what I wrote U7multifile class for (U7file.{cc,h})
[13:43:31] <Marzo> It seems to be for loading things like flex files from multiple paths, and patch them all together
[13:43:45] <Marzo> I can see several uses for it in several places
[13:44:04] <Marzo> But I have no idea which of them I had in mind when I wrote it
[13:51:45] <Dominus> He
[13:51:59] <Dominus> You might need to hunt through the commit mails and changelog
[13:52:15] <Dominus> But I understand what you mean
[14:08:19] <Marzo> Dominus: I give you ONE chance to guess what Changelog and commits say about this class :-)
[15:04:48] <Dominus> Marzo: probably just that you implemented it, not why. If it even mentions it ;)
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[15:26:11] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: U7multifile commit was ccc608dc517e13e5e5fb592e0455d98207591598
[15:33:44] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: Finding all the "English" strings in Exult could be problematic. One major issue would be menu button sizes.
[15:35:13] <Malignant_Manor> From memory, the button size is asked for with every button. We also have a Yes/No button class.
[15:36:25] <Malignant_Manor> Menu widths would also likely need adjusting per language.
[15:36:49] <Dominus> full localization is probably another bottle that needs to be kept close... For a long while...
[15:37:44] <Malignant_Manor> yes/no may be enabled/disabled (or we could have a class for both)
[15:38:26] <Dominus> The best course might be to go for snother menu system alltogether if we want localization
[15:38:41] <Dominus> https://forums.libsdl.org/viewtopic.php?t=11772&sid=b5b45cff409764cdd43719d60306eba0 a simple gui for SDL2
[15:40:21] <Malignant_Manor> Another thing, we uses png pictures for the background and each size is a new picture instead of being modular.
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[16:04:10] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: Was SI not translated into German and French?
[16:05:44] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: The Guardian speech seems to have different lines per language (looking at exultmsg files).
[16:08:42] <Malignant_Manor> That is the Endings for BG and not intro
[16:12:46] <Dominus> Malignant_Manor: SI has only official Spanish translation
[16:13:34] <Dominus> And there is a patch by me for the differences in the text lengths
[16:14:28] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: This is a partial patch for exultmsg in flx. It is missing different language selection and previously mentioned ifstream incompatibility. http://pastebin.com/md3UfMt5
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[16:20:36] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: Here is a patch made from a local commit. http://pastebin.com/NtgMgAEX
[16:21:09] <Malignant_Manor> I'm haven't really learned Git too well
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[17:20:07] <Dominus> Marzo: did you see that error message from the original?
[17:20:14] <Dominus> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7737184/exult/Datei%2015.04.16%2C%2010%2049%2032.jpeg
[17:55:54] <Marzo> Dominus: I had seen it, yes, but didn't investigate it yet
[17:57:13] <Dominus> https://github.com/wench <- that is colourless
[18:00:27] <Marzo> Invited
[18:02:18] <Dominus> interesting, it shows Exult as "popular repositories" at his page and we have 9 contributers but it only shows 8 to me. Probably will show it properly at a later time...
[18:03:08] <Marzo> Probably, yes
[18:03:26] <Dominus> or private/public email address thing...
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[18:05:42] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo, I think we really need to focus on bugs and get a release.
[18:07:15] <Malignant_Manor> Like has been mentioned many times the official release being used is ancient.
[18:11:14] <Marzo_android> Like I said before, a lot of what I am adding on the todo is so it won't get lost again
[18:12:44] <Marzo_android> And focusing on the release does not mean I can't think of what to do after
[18:41:59] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo_android: I think you could probably finish the exultmsg in flx code fairly quickly and for the release. I have no idea on the codepages. Getting menu and other engine text will likely take too long.
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[19:53:47] <Dominus> Marzo: drcode1 is Jeff
[19:54:37] <Dominus> What do they have to do again to show up as contributer? Register their SF mail or the mail they are registered with at SF?
[19:56:44] <Epitrope> they have to enter whatever email shows up on their git commits as an email in their github account
[20:04:10] <Dominus> Thanks Epitrope !
[20:39:35] <Dominus> so, Jeff and Ryan show up in the commits now.
[20:40:08] <Dominus> If we can get Kirben to fix his address and maybe Lanica to sign up on github the last 12 years are covered :)
[20:41:07] <Dominus> (almost, in May 2004, Darke and Artaxerxes had their last commits...)
[20:53:18] <Dominus> ok, just saw a guy on facebook that used his Oculus to play Exult...
[21:53:38] <Marzo_android> Dominus: invited Jeff
[21:54:00] <Marzo_android> You should now pester Jeff and Colourless to accept the invites: -p
[21:56:23] <Dominus> he he, will do :)
[21:59:51] <Marzo_android> Kirben's email in the logs is kirben@users.sourceforge.net
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[22:02:01] <Dominus> yeah, I've written him
[22:02:22] <Marzo_android> Strange, Jeff shows up as a contributor in ExultAndroid but not in Exult proper
[22:02:51] <Marzo_android> Jeff already accepted the invite, by the way
[22:02:53] <Dominus> and written to Artaxerxes and Darke and Lanica ... :)
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[22:03:40] <Marzo_android> Jeff also shows up in exult-web
[22:03:44] <Marzo_android> Hm
[22:03:45] <Dominus> Marzo, I think the Exult proper may need more time
[22:03:54] <Marzo_android> Maybe it takes longer... yeah
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[22:04:20] <Dominus> Ryan shows up in exult-web as well but not yet in proper
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