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[18:45:33] <artaxerxes> hi all
[18:45:55] <artaxerxes> wjp: let me know when you want me to upload the zaurus package.
[18:52:39] <wjp> hi
[18:52:54] <wjp> I'll let you know when I know :-)
[18:55:12] <artaxerxes> k!
[18:57:02] <artaxerxes> kindq quiet today. Even at work, there is noone!
[18:57:54] <wjp> sounds good :-)
[19:02:46] <artaxerxes> true!
[19:12:12] * wjp hmms
[19:12:28] <wjp> I wonder about that potion-creation issue in the lab schedule
[19:14:49] <artaxerxes> what about it?
[19:15:14] <wjp> the problem is that apothecaries create potions randomly
[19:15:38] <wjp> this means that sometimes they create the special Skara-Brae potion
[19:17:38] <artaxerxes> intrinsic or usecode?
[19:17:44] <wjp> schedule
[19:18:04] <artaxerxes> so it's intrinsic, right?
[19:18:16] <wjp> well, schedules are hardcoded in exult
[19:19:40] <artaxerxes> got it! I got them mixed up!
[19:21:04] <wjp> so I'm now trying the original to see what the lab schedule is supposed to do
[19:23:19] <wjp> (possible thanks to dosbox :-) )
[19:26:40] <artaxerxes> dosbox can run ultima 7 now!!!???!!!???!
[19:26:47] <wjp> yes :-)
[19:26:53] <artaxerxes> how is that possible?
[19:27:13] <wjp> why wouldn't it be possible?
[19:27:26] <artaxerxes> I've tried once I finished Gabriel Knight 1 and there was memory pb!
[19:27:44] <wjp> it doesn't work that long yet
[19:28:07] <artaxerxes> how well does it work?
[19:28:16] <wjp> from what I can tell it works perfectly
[19:28:25] <wjp> don't know about audio since I have that disabled
[19:30:27] * artaxerxes is updating dosbox cvs
[19:30:27] <wjp> looks like it just shouldn't use the last frame
[19:32:26] <artaxerxes> they've come a long way with dosbox
[19:33:01] <artaxerxes> what would be the steps to create a brend-new schedule?
[19:33:13] <wjp> you don't want to know :-)
[19:34:48] <artaxerxes> ;-) What if I really do! :-)
[19:39:10] <wjp> hm
[19:39:13] <wjp> well...
[19:39:45] <wjp> you'd have to take a look at schedule.cc
[19:39:51] <wjp> (and schedule.h)
[19:41:20] <wjp> and actors.cc, Actor::set_schedule_type
[19:42:09] <artaxerxes> wouldn't it be great to be able to write schedules in plain-text (like the keyboard shortcuts)?
[19:42:15] * artaxerxes can keep dreaming
[19:42:53] <wjp> scripted schedules would be very nice
[19:45:42] <artaxerxes> sth like:
[19:46:15] <artaxerxes> go_to(find_nearest(chair))
[19:46:36] <artaxerxes> create_item(food)
[19:47:10] <artaxerxes> etc
[19:47:22] <artaxerxes> brb
[19:52:59] <artaxerxes> back
[19:53:20] <artaxerxes> I'm getting quite a few warnings when compiling dosbox!
[19:54:00] <artaxerxes> is it possible to write schedules like we write usecode?
[19:55:21] <wjp> hm
[19:55:26] <wjp> "maybe"
[19:55:46] <wjp> you should ask Jeff on the ML
[19:55:54] <wjp> it might be possible to wire usecode into schedules
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[19:58:13] <artaxerxes> I can't believe I'm playing the original Serpent Isle on my Linux box! It's amazing!
[19:58:38] <wjp> speed is quite acceptable too
[19:58:44] <wjp> I do get a lot of tearing, though
[19:59:10] <artaxerxes> I'm playing it on a linux box whose display is my work's Windows NT workstation!
[19:59:18] <artaxerxes> and even then it's ok!
[19:59:53] <wjp> what are you using for that? some X server from NT?
[19:59:56] <wjp> s/from/for/
[19:59:59] <SB-X> gnight
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[20:01:18] <artaxerxes> I've installed cygwin's X server
[20:01:39] <artaxerxes> which listens to my linux box's XDMCP
[20:01:52] <artaxerxes> works pretty good too
[20:02:29] <artaxerxes> either serpentisle hanged or it takes a long time to start a game!
[20:03:35] <wjp> I would guess the latter
[20:03:43] <wjp> dosbox is a lot of things, but it isn't fast :-)
[20:03:50] <artaxerxes> I restarted it and it's good now
[20:04:04] <artaxerxes> especially across a network!
[20:04:16] <wjp> ctrl-f8 a few times should help (increase frameskip)
[20:04:45] <wjp> and not scaling it to 640x400 should speed it up a lot too
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[20:09:55] <artaxerxes> how do you change the resolution for dosbox?
[20:10:36] <wjp> you can disable scaling by setting keepsmall=true somewhere in dosbox.conf
[20:28:05] <artaxerxes> it's so eerie to play the original now!
[20:28:13] <artaxerxes> and almost painful too!
[20:28:46] <artaxerxes> wjp: just by curiousity, did you get the email I sent today to the ML about the zaurus port?
[20:29:03] <wjp> not yet
[20:29:09] <artaxerxes> I sent it about 2 hours ago
[20:29:30] <artaxerxes> it goes through usually faster than that!
[20:29:50] <wjp> not the last week :-)
[20:30:02] <wjp> I've been getting delays of over 12 hours
[20:30:19] <artaxerxes> did you also see the MAILER-DAEMON messages that came? About 8 in a row... I wonder if there's some technical pb with their messaging system
[20:30:36] <wjp> it's called SoBig-F :-)
[20:30:52] <artaxerxes> I'm gonna try to run the original Serpent Isle, but with the French patches! :-)
[20:31:06] <wjp> hm, be careful with the 32bit usecode :-)
[20:31:09] <artaxerxes> I'm pretty sure it won't work with the books though (.ext32)
[20:31:15] <artaxerxes> same idea
[20:31:16] <wjp> exactly
[20:33:26] <artaxerxes> yup... got a crash
[20:33:59] <artaxerxes> sorry, an error has occured. Please write down the following information:
[20:34:13] <artaxerxes> Error 0x6601 at 6952:0273
[20:34:44] <artaxerxes> Consult your manual. If the problem persists, please call Origin Customer Service. We are sorry for the inconvenience
[20:34:54] <artaxerxes> That's when I tried to talk to Shamino
[20:35:12] <artaxerxes> that's weird though, since he doesn't have any .ext32 in his usecode!
[20:46:36] <artaxerxes> schedules are enormous!
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[20:56:43] <Dominus> hi all
[20:57:41] <wjp> hi
[20:57:45] <wjp> artaxerxes: yes... :/
[20:58:38] <artaxerxes> hi Dominus
[20:59:26] <Dominus> I finally fixed the documentation with the fixes you mailed me a week ago...
[21:02:25] <artaxerxes> :-)
[21:02:41] <Dominus> I'm just soooooo lazy
[21:02:43] <artaxerxes> zaurus package is ready for release
[21:02:48] <Dominus> he he
[21:06:26] <Dominus> so wjp, how about a release?
[21:20:33] <artaxerxes> gotta go
[21:20:41] <Dominus> k, see you
[21:20:43] <artaxerxes> Dominus: you can play U7 in dosbox now!
[21:20:47] <artaxerxes> bye all!
[21:20:48] <Dominus> I read!
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[21:51:06] <wjp> hey, I got that dosbox mail I sent to the exult ML within 5 minutes
[21:51:20] <wjp> Dominus: uh, release?
[21:51:35] <Dominus> :-)
[21:51:55] * wjp wonders who's going to arrange the release
[21:53:48] <wjp> yikes, what an amount of emails to exult-general the last week
[21:53:59] * wjp is trying to track down some relevant emails
[21:54:19] <wjp> Jeff and Ryan wanted to change some map caching behaviour IIRC
[21:56:14] <Dominus> as far as I understood Ryan just wanted to have everyone use that cache out compile option
[21:56:52] <Dominus> but those 180 "bad" mails to exult-general really don't help at all
[21:57:04] <wjp> oh, I wasn't even talking about those
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[21:57:23] <wjp> those are no longer in my exult mailbox
[21:57:35] <Dominus> yep
[21:58:57] <wjp> hm, apparently exult doesn't work in freebsd currently (bugtracker)
[21:59:11] <wjp> I wonder if that's with exult-studio support compiled in
[22:02:13] <wjp> that WANT_MAP_CACHE_OUT thingie is rather a big change for a beta IMHO
[22:02:36] <wjp> but I do want to have it synced between platforms
[22:02:56] <Dominus> then leave it out on every port including win32
[22:03:03] <Dominus> er, msvc
[22:06:02] <wjp> I'm kind of confused about that whole 'rocketarena' list thingie
[22:06:33] <Dominus> huh?
[22:06:36] <Dominus> ah
[22:07:03] <wjp> apparently somebody thought it would be a good idea to subscribe exult-general to it...
[22:07:23] <Dominus> a mighty good idea
[22:10:51] <wjp> uh, did I just get an email from 16 march 2002 from the ML? :-)
[22:11:25] <wjp> email related things are a bit weird lately, it seems :-)
[22:11:45] <Dominus> yep, really
[22:12:24] <Dominus> the whole sobig thing didn't hit me at all until it hit the ML.
[22:13:02] <wjp> it hit me and the ML at the same time
[22:13:26] <wjp> I got about the same quantity on my @users.sourceforge.net address as throught the ML
[22:13:37] <Dominus> yeah
[22:49:53] <wjp> I guess I should be going
[22:50:04] <wjp> exultbot will be gone most of the day tomorrow, btw
[22:50:31] <wjp> installing new servers, so we're going to do some overhauling
[22:50:50] <wjp> (brand new fast dual P4 machines instead of our current low-end P3s :-) )
[22:51:09] <wjp> anyway, g'night
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