#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 25 Jun 2001 (GMT)

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[04:12:18] <triptroni> hey
[04:13:46] <triptroni> hello?
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[12:42:16] <mrod> hello
[12:44:23] <InuYasha> Hail and well met!
[12:53:58] <mrod> i'll be back later, see you :-)
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[14:26:54] <Colourless> hmmm. no nickserv
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[14:50:42] <madmagi> matt0?
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[16:50:03] <mrod> hello
[16:50:04] <mrod> i've just filed a bug about combat on the tracker
[16:55:45] <Colourless> ok, thanks.
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[16:57:12] <wjp> hi
[16:57:48] <mrod> hello
[16:57:57] <Colourless> WJP!
[16:58:07] * Colourless is doing a matt
[16:58:12] <wjp> lol
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[17:05:30] <mrod> !
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[17:07:53] <mrod_> i'm before two (!) Forsythe here in Skara Brae ! one is sitting in the chair, and the other one is just stainding in front of me !
[17:08:49] <mrod_> (and, i see that my zombie carbon copy did not ping-timeout yet)
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[17:46:59] <mrod> bye
[17:47:02] <wjp_> bye
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[17:47:07] <wjp_> hmm, combat is really broken
[17:47:13] <wjp_> no damage whatsoever
[17:49:53] <wjp_> oops.. someone took out the 'reduce_health(hp)' call
[17:50:31] <wjp_> bad jameson :-)
[17:50:37] <Colourless> heh
[17:51:18] <Colourless> that would explain why combat was working when I started workong on the flag 0x12 stuff, and why it died after
[17:56:08] * wjp_ commits fix
[17:58:01] <wjp_> well... our phone is dead and my POP3 server isn't responding... how nice
[17:58:28] <Colourless> heh
[17:59:07] <wjp_> I couldn't even connect to OPN from home, which is why I'm now logged in through my univ account
[18:06:16] <wjp_> I have to go; bbl
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[18:11:32] * mrod has just read the logs, and waits for tomorrow's snapshot ^_^
[18:11:57] <Colourless> which part?
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[18:12:43] <madmagi> matt0?
[18:13:05] <mrod> Colourless: "<wjp_> oops.. someone took out the 'reduce_health(hp)' call"
[18:13:42] <Colourless> ah
[18:13:47] <mrod> i see that the bugreport isn't there anymore, indeed :-)
[18:13:51] * Colourless could build exult for you
[18:14:19] <mrod> Colourless: it would be kind of you :-)
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[19:01:10] <jameson> Hi!
[19:01:45] <Colourless> hi
[19:01:47] <Colourless> you bad! :)
[19:02:56] * jameson ducks
[19:03:04] <Colourless> :)
[19:03:20] <jameson> OK, it was intentional, of course. I wanted to sabotage the release because...
[19:03:44] <jameson> uh, I'm not supposed to tell that. The guys at Origin might get ang...
[19:03:52] <jameson> Ooops...
[19:03:54] <Colourless> because you thought it would be funny to have a seocnd release that had broken combat!
[19:04:22] <jameson> It'd worked fine here... well, it hadn't segfaulted... ;-)
[19:04:30] <jameson> Sorry. I'll do better testing of my changes next time.
[19:04:51] <Colourless> :)
[19:04:52] <jameson> I really thought everything worked fine- I killed the cat and everything...
[19:05:22] <Colourless> i would have laughed if we make another release with broken combat.
[19:05:22] <jameson> Not that I have something against cats or anything, but it was just the first thing that crossed my path.
[19:05:33] <jameson> Well, except for Iolo, of course...
[19:05:56] <jameson> Was combat broken in the last release? I didn't check, actually...
[19:06:31] <Colourless> it was broken in Alpha 2
[19:06:59] <Colourless> Jeff broke it the day before he went on holidays. We released it while he was on holidays.
[19:07:09] <jameson> BTW, are my party members supposed to run around aimlessly during combat?
[19:07:33] <Colourless> Jeff is currently on holidays and we are gonig to again release, when he's not here.
[19:07:45] <Colourless> probably, combat is pretty crappy
[19:07:47] <jameson> Is that some sort of tradition?
[19:07:55] <jameson> (Releasing while Jeff is away)
[19:08:02] <Colourless> no, it's just the way it's turned out this time
[19:08:11] <jameson> Ah, OK.
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[19:21:08] <wjp_> hi again
[19:21:32] <jameson> Hi!
[19:21:53] <wjp_> jameson: you're forcing us to upgrade to SDL > 1.2 ;-)
[19:22:05] <jameson> I do? =-)
[19:22:07] <wjp_> (which isn't really a bad thing)
[19:22:17] <wjp_> * MixAudio(): Second parameter const'ed to fix mismatching signature
[19:22:32] <jameson> Well, if it's OK with you... it's just that things didn't build here and I fixed 'em...
[19:22:48] <jameson> I'll remove it if it turns out to be a problem, of course...
[19:23:15] <wjp_> (check the 4 June changelog entry :-) )
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[19:23:47] <jameson> I guess things like these happen if people work on stuff they really don't know enough about...
[19:23:54] <jameson> Hm, OK.
[19:24:08] <mrod> today it seems that connection drops are just routine
[19:24:13] <mrod> !
[19:24:22] <wjp_> round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 8541.953/8848.539/10302.550/216.922 ms
[19:24:31] <wjp_> my connection seems to be just a little laggy :-)
[19:24:47] <mrod> !
[19:24:49] <wjp_> (270 pings to www.redhat.com, 53% packet loss)
[19:24:54] <mrod> :-D
[19:24:56] <Colourless> my connection is kind of bad
[19:25:11] <mrod> that's all ok ... :-) !!
[19:25:13] <wjp_> I'm now connected through my univ. account, which seems to be fine
[19:26:35] --- ChanServ has changed the topic to: Exult, the open source Ultima 7 and U7 part 2 engine
[19:28:55] <matt0> =]
[19:29:08] <matt0> Colourless: I see you sent me a DCC some time ago =]
[19:29:45] <Colourless> i didn't mean to do that :
[19:29:47] <Colourless> )
[19:29:56] <Colourless> i clicked on the wrong person
[19:30:02] <Colourless> i was attempting to send to mrod
[19:30:12] <matt0> oh ok
[19:32:45] <wjp_> I guess we should change our .rpm to SDL >= 1.2.0
[19:34:00] <wjp_> jameson: anyway, does the alpha version compile properly now?
[19:34:00] <jameson> Yes. It builds completely, links, and seems to work just fine.
[19:34:00] <wjp_> excellent
[19:34:00] <jameson> Exactly ;-)
[19:34:00] <wjp_> solaris version works too
[19:34:00] <wjp_> I should probably try Beos again too sometime
[19:34:00] <wjp_> something is really screwed up here
[19:34:00] <wjp_> I get all things in a bit of a weird order
[19:34:00] <jameson> Upgraded the debian 'rules' file.
[19:34:00] <wjp_> (and a completely different one from exultbot's log)
[19:34:00] <jameson> I haven't tried gcc-3.0, BTW. It's an order of magnitude slower than cxx (compile time), and other people seem to believe the resulting code is slower, too.
[19:34:06] <jameson> Weird, bitch-x lists me as having a lag of zero, but it sure feels worse than that...
[19:34:06] <wjp_> I tried gcc3 the day after its realease; exult compiles fine as long as you leave --pedantic out
[19:34:06] <wjp_> jameson: inter-server lag
[19:34:15] * jameson still hasn't found out what the other weird values in the bottom line of bitch-x mean
[19:34:15] <jameson> wjp_: D'Oh, of course.
[19:34:15] <wjp_> jameson: we seem to be on the same server
[19:34:24] <matt0> creichen!!!!
[19:35:34] <jameson> Good.
[19:35:34] <jameson> Ah! matt0 blew my cover!
[19:38:28] * matt0 grins
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[19:43:32] <wjp> hmm, this one seems to be only a few km. away
[19:58:21] * wjp tries to build an .rpm from a 'make dist'-ed archive
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[20:10:30] * wjp tweaks a bit & tries again
[20:23:57] * wjp wonders why it requires esound, arts, audiofile
[20:24:20] <jameson> It doesn't in the Debian rules file...
[20:24:38] <wjp> neither in the .spec file, but it adds the dependencies anyway
[20:24:59] <wjp> I already disabled libkmid support by default, which got rid of a whole bunch of useles dependencies
[20:25:05] <wjp> useless, even
[20:25:43] <wjp> now it's down to SDL, some X libs, some glibc libs and those 3 I mention
[20:25:46] <wjp> ed
[20:27:00] <wjp> hmm, could be because of my SDL lib
[20:27:30] <wjp> yup, that's it
[20:33:49] <jameson> ~Hmm, I think I'll get some sleep now.
[20:34:00] <jameson> Good night, everyone!
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[20:52:56] <wjp> ...ok... installed vanilla SDL 1.2.1... and rebuilding .rpm *again*
[21:04:30] * wjp finally gets an .rpm with proper requirements
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[21:17:59] <CaliMonk> heya
[21:18:05] <wjp> hi
[21:18:06] <Colourless> hi
[21:18:10] <chimera|wookin> CaliMonk!!!!
[21:18:13] <CaliMonk> i noticed i can't kill anyone anymore :)
[21:18:16] <CaliMonk> Chimera =)
[21:18:22] <chimera|wookin> =]
[21:18:27] <wjp> CaliMonk: I fixed this a few hours ago
[21:18:27] <CaliMonk> also the 'paperdolls' button isn't working anymore
[21:18:33] <CaliMonk> oh ok wjp :P
[21:18:39] <wjp> paperdolls button?
[21:18:43] <CaliMonk> well
[21:18:45] <CaliMonk> in the cheat menu
[21:18:49] <CaliMonk> when i press 'p'
[21:18:52] <CaliMonk> it staff off
[21:18:55] <CaliMonk> nothing hapens
[21:19:00] <CaliMonk> stays
[21:19:01] <CaliMonk> even
[21:19:23] <wjp> do you have paths to SI setup correctly?
[21:19:31] <CaliMonk> ooh
[21:19:31] <CaliMonk> i forgot
[21:19:37] <CaliMonk> i overwrote my cfg
[21:19:38] <CaliMonk> file
[21:19:41] <CaliMonk> my bad :P
[21:19:43] <CaliMonk> btw
[21:19:47] <CaliMonk> i noticed 400xsomething
[21:19:50] <CaliMonk> was working very slow
[21:19:55] <CaliMonk> unlike 512xsomething
[21:20:48] <wjp> 400x300x2 is a scaled mode, that might cause it
[21:21:10] <CaliMonk> ic
[21:21:21] <wjp> how slow is 'very' slow?
[21:21:26] <CaliMonk> hm
[21:21:30] <CaliMonk> half the speed of 512
[21:21:38] <CaliMonk> i noticed your changelog is one day off?
[21:21:39] <CaliMonk> heh
[21:22:04] <wjp> yeah, half the speed sounds about right
[21:22:36] <CaliMonk> i run this on a pII 233 now
[21:22:40] <CaliMonk> if i get my new 1.3 ghz
[21:22:44] <CaliMonk> would it all run too fast/
[21:22:51] <wjp> no, it'll never run too fast
[21:22:56] <CaliMonk> ok good
[21:23:02] <CaliMonk> but would 400x300
[21:23:05] <CaliMonk> run smooth then?
[21:23:11] <CaliMonk> or still the same
[21:23:11] <wjp> yeah, it should
[21:23:14] <CaliMonk> ok
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[21:23:36] <madmagi> matt0?
[21:23:40] <wjp> what do you mean by the changelog a day off, btw?
[21:23:46] <CaliMonk> well
[21:23:52] <CaliMonk> it says last day changed 25-6
[21:23:53] <wjp> madmagi: were you here a few days ago asking about the 0.92 rpm?
[21:23:57] <CaliMonk> and in the changelog it stated 24-6
[21:24:00] <CaliMonk> yesterday
[21:24:06] <CaliMonk> it said 24-6 on the site
[21:24:10] <madmagi> yes and running with linux - got it working finally
[21:24:12] <CaliMonk> in the changelog it was 23-6
[21:24:13] <CaliMonk> etc :)
[21:24:23] <wjp> Travis is australian
[21:24:33] <wjp> madmagi: the exult_bg.flx file was missing, right?
[21:24:47] <madmagi> that and I had to make sure all my directories were in lowercase
[21:24:50] <wjp> that might have something to do with it
[21:25:07] <wjp> madmagi: you'll be happy to know we fixed both issues
[21:25:31] <madmagi> great! I thanks for all the work, love the product...
[21:25:43] <madmagi> ... now if we could just get Ultima Underground...
[21:26:31] <wjp> underworld?
[21:27:13] <madmagi> now that you question I am not sure, but it was my favorite of all the ultima series
[21:27:54] <CaliMonk> thansk
[21:27:56] <CaliMonk> bbiab
[21:27:57] <CaliMonk> :)
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[21:29:07] <wjp> madmagi: have you seen http://madeira.physiol.ucl.ac.uk/people/jim/games/sshock.html ?
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[21:30:51] <CaliMonk> wjp i forgot to ask.. you didn't update the snapshots did ya
[21:30:54] <CaliMonk> =)
[21:30:56] <madmagi> wjp - no, I am bringing up the page.
[21:31:16] <CaliMonk> coz i just download the snapshot, installed and i still can't kill anyone or thing
[21:31:24] <wjp> CaliMonk: no, snapshots are out of my control...
[21:31:28] <CaliMonk> arg
[21:31:33] <CaliMonk> darnit
[21:31:38] <CaliMonk> i need to kill this damn troll
[21:31:43] <CaliMonk> oh well
[21:31:52] <CaliMonk> i'll get some sleep then
[21:31:54] <CaliMonk> cya!
[21:31:56] <wjp> bye
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[21:33:27] <madmagi> wjp: looks promising
[21:34:59] <chimera|wookin> wjp: snapshots? as in Travis Howell's daily snapshots? hehe
[21:35:27] <wjp> yeah
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[21:43:08] <wjp> time for bed; g'night
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[21:49:37] <mrod> time to go for me too. goodnight
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[22:26:30] <Colourless> me too
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