#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 26 Mar 2003 (GMT)

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[00:01:42] <Dominus> got to go
[00:01:44] <Dominus> bye
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[02:19:55] <Dark-Star> I'm leaving now. bye.
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[08:31:12] <Servus> Severus!
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[09:13:13] <SB-X> hi
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[09:50:40] <SB-X> hi
[09:51:50] <Darke> Hiya.
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[09:58:54] <SB-X> hi
[09:58:58] <Quester> hi
[09:59:26] <Servus> h'lo all
[10:22:34] <Quester> where is colourless?...
[10:26:58] <Kirben> seen colourless
[10:26:58] <Kirben> seen colourless?
[10:26:58] <Kirben> 1seen colourless
[10:27:57] * Kirben slaps exultbot around a bit with a large trout
[10:28:03] <Quester> heh
[10:32:18] * Servus cringes
[10:32:33] <Kirben> ?seen colourless
[10:32:33] <exultbot> colourless left IRC around Tue Mar 25 14:46:35 2003 (GMT) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[10:32:47] <Quester> it work!
[10:33:22] <Quester> easy way - /msg nickserv info colourless :_
[10:34:18] <SB-X> /msg nickserv info sb-x
[10:34:21] <SB-X> oops
[10:34:27] <Servus> says my names not registered :-/
[10:34:54] <Quester> to register /msg nickserv register [password]
[10:35:00] <SB-X> sb-x Registered: 1 year 5 weeks 4 days (21h 32m 24s) ago
[10:35:09] <Darke> ?name
[10:35:09] <exultbot> Greetings Avatar. I am called Exultbot.
[10:35:09] <Darke> exultbot: name?
[10:35:09] * Darke can't remember the syntax either. Where's it's Master when you need it?
[10:35:22] <SB-X> exultbot: buy
[10:35:44] <SB-X> exultbot: mr. nose?
[10:36:26] <Servus> thanks :-)
[10:36:47] <Quester> very fanny, but I need see colourless... in forum someone wrote he was compile exult in MSVC...
[10:36:50] <Servus> Registered: 58 seconds ago hehe
[10:38:39] <Servus> ?seen servus
[10:38:39] <exultbot> That's you!
[10:38:47] <Servus> lol
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[10:47:16] * Jammet hops and waves happily.
[10:47:20] <Jammet> Yo. =)
[10:48:09] <SB-X> hi jammet
[10:48:18] <Jammet> =^_^= How're things going?
[10:48:36] <Darke> Hiya! *bowbounce*
[10:48:40] * SB-X gives Jammet a fish.
[10:48:45] * SB-X shrugs.
[10:48:51] <Jammet> I'm testing the yummy uwadv release I found today. It's nifty! I can't wait until that is complatable =).
[10:48:52] <SB-X> going ok
[10:49:01] * Jammet purrs and mews softly at Darke and SB-X =)
[10:49:23] <Jammet> Well that's at least at least good =).
[10:49:36] * Jammet sniffs at the fish and eats it.
[10:49:57] * SB-X never played the game with which uwadv is associated.
[10:50:09] <Jammet> Remember when I tried making the island patch? =) I failed miserably. Because I could not get the editor thing to dance.
[10:50:36] <SB-X> I thought you just made a script.
[10:50:48] <SB-X> for a character
[10:50:51] <Jammet> Oh. Well, to sum it up. UW is ... to me, the game I'd take when I'm stranded on some island. U7 too tho.
[10:51:08] <Jammet> Yes I did. But I thought I had to do the actual work as well, but couldn't do that.
[10:51:19] <SB-X> what editor?
[10:51:25] <Jammet> Basically it'd be just a cat with my name and a few lines to say.
[10:51:33] <Jammet> That Exult Studio. I thought I was supposed to use that.
[10:51:34] <Servus> stranded on an island... take some SDKs, photoshop, 3dmax, and c++:)
[10:51:39] <Jammet> (It did not compile)
[10:51:57] <Jammet> Servus, =^_^= Sounds great...
[10:52:05] <Darke> Going good. Though I'm a mite distracted by writing selection criteria for a job I need to apply for on friday, so I can't say I'll be a particularly good conversationalist. *grin*
[10:52:12] <Servus> there's a exult studio snapshot on the sourceforge page, but it doesnt work correctly in windows
[10:52:34] <Jammet> Darke, if you're too busy, you can get back to the desert island and favourite games during a coffee break. =)
[10:52:57] <Jammet> Oh, well, a week ago I compiked me a gcc 3.2.2 or so. Maybe it'll be all better now.
[10:53:49] <Jammet> I wonder if it is somehow possible to but the adlib emulation lib into uwadv. No matter how cool the HQ midi sounds, it sucks compared to the adlib tunes in UW.
[10:55:45] <Darke> Jammet: *giggle* Purrhaps. Though my next 'coffee break' is more likely to be a 'collapse and sleep' break. *grin*
[10:56:39] * Jammet curls up by Darke and stuffs a neat pillow nearby, so that when Darke collapses, he'll plop into that pillow.
[10:58:27] <Servus> ?seen coren
[10:58:27] <exultbot> I haven't seen coren lately
[10:58:51] <SB-X> .
[11:04:00] * Quester WANT compile exult in MSVC... pleeesss, helllp :)
[11:04:37] <Servus> *sigh* ok lemme see :P
[11:05:12] <Quester> Servus?
[11:05:16] <Servus> ?
[11:05:24] <SB-X> ?
[11:05:27] <Servus> :-/
[11:05:38] <Jammet> What's going on?
[11:05:43] <SB-X> hi
[11:06:21] <Servus> dunno
[11:06:38] * Jammet adds to all the confusing and does a rain dance.
[11:07:03] * SB-X passes out umbrellas.
[11:07:11] <Servus> there, i compiled exult in msvc 6.0
[11:07:47] <Jammet> I'm hungry.
[11:08:25] * SB-X gives Jammet a ball of yarn.
[11:08:36] <Darke> The only one who can help you really is Colourless, everyone else uses linux or mingw.
[11:08:47] <Jammet> 'You see a day old cake.' C.R.U.N.C.H. swallow 'The cake tasted disgusting'.
[11:08:58] <Servus> (does he say that in real life?) :P
[11:10:14] <Jammet> Mew.
[11:12:44] <Quester> heh... i must go... bye all
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[11:15:12] <Jammet> He is gone. Let's party! =^_^=
[11:15:16] <Jammet> Just kidding =).
[11:15:33] * Servus slaps Jammet around a bit with a large trout
[11:16:24] * Jammet eats it.
[11:17:02] <Servus> A fresh fish.
[11:17:15] <Servus> Gobbies go down to water, sometimes, gobbies not come back up. HeeHeeHee
[11:18:21] <Jammet> =) Um. Ew.
[11:19:31] <Jammet> See you salty dogs later =^_^= lotsa treasure hunt'n to do.
[11:19:42] <Servus> eek.
[11:19:49] * Jammet purrs dreamly away ... (Boing) [Mew-Log On] [Pager On]
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[12:19:25] <Colourless> hi
[12:19:29] <Darke> Hi.
[12:19:53] <Yuv422> hey
[12:20:00] <SB-X> hi
[12:22:27] * Yuv422 is kludging Nuvie to get doors working. (temporarily)
[12:23:38] <Colourless> don't do it... just don't do it.... you'll find that the kludge will become permanent code :-)
[12:24:06] <Darke> There is no such thing as a temporary kludge. Don't kid yourself. *grin*
[12:24:21] <Yuv422> if(obj->obj_n >= 297 && obj->obj_n <= 300) // door objects
[12:24:22] <Yuv422> {
[12:24:22] <Yuv422> if(obj->frame_n <= 3)
[12:24:22] <Yuv422> obj->frame_n += 4;
[12:24:22] <Yuv422> else
[12:24:22] <Yuv422> obj->frame_n -= 4;
[12:24:24] <Yuv422> }
[12:25:00] <Yuv422> It might even be hardcoded in the original :(
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[12:59:57] <Yuv422> hmm I seem to be able to open some doors.
[13:06:07] <Colourless> got to go
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[13:13:37] <Yuv422> Yay! doors working now. :)
[13:26:59] <Yuv422> Next job. Fix walls when blacking.
[13:27:11] <Yuv422> but that is a job for another day.
[13:27:15] <Yuv422> time for bed.
[13:27:21] <Yuv422> cya guys
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[14:26:22] <Nadir> hi
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[16:39:58] <wjp> hi
[16:52:59] <matto|wookin> hi
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[17:32:55] <mrod> hi
[17:33:15] <wjp> hi
[17:36:43] <matto|wookin> mrod!
[17:36:57] <matto|wookin> Italiano!
[17:37:09] <mrod> matto|wookin: hi :)
[17:37:23] <mrod> matto|wookin: esatto :-)
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[18:00:45] <matto|wookin> well so much for mrod ...
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[19:06:08] <matto|wookin> mrod I see that you've dared to venture back into this tranquil place :)
[19:07:29] <mrod> matto|wookin: wert thou really thinking I doth lack in Courage ;-) ?
[19:07:55] <matto|wookin> hehehe
[19:07:57] <mrod> matto|wookin: thy blood wilt soil the land ;-)) !
[19:08:13] <matto|wookin> how dare thou cast thy insults into my teeth, varlet! Draw thy sword!
[19:08:45] <mrod> ^_^
[20:29:32] <mrod> bye
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[20:54:55] <wjp> hi again :-)
[20:55:03] <Fingolfin> re
[20:55:08] <matto|wookin> fin! :)
[20:55:13] <matto|wookin> http://www.xmission.com/~redflame/daphne/download/daphne-0.99.6pre3.macosx.tar.gz
[20:55:23] <wjp> wow, that's even shorter than the 'Fingy' from #scummvm :-)
[20:57:59] <matto|wookin> hehe
[20:58:02] <matto|wookin> Shark Fin Soup
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[21:12:34] <BET-frogger> hi!
[21:12:42] <wjp> hi
[21:13:07] <BET-frogger> any OS X guy here?
[21:13:20] <wjp> Fingolfin's around
[21:13:21] <wjp> ?seen Fingolfin
[21:13:21] <exultbot> fingolfin left IRC around Wed Mar 26 21:06:13 2003 (GMT) ("reboot")
[21:14:16] <BET-frogger> known anyone an OS X equivalent to linux' strace?
[21:14:36] <BET-frogger> s/known/knows/
[21:15:52] <wjp> for any particular kind of syscall?
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[21:16:27] <Fingolfin> re again =)
[21:16:28] <BET-frogger> for no particular...
[21:16:40] <BET-frogger> you come as called
[21:16:43] <BET-frogger> :)
[21:16:57] <BET-frogger> do u know a strace like tool for osx?
[21:17:20] <Fingolfin> what does strace do?
[21:17:26] <wjp> traces syscalls
[21:17:33] <BET-frogger> wjp...tnx..
[21:17:33] <Fingolfin> ktrace
[21:17:59] <BET-frogger> i'll give ktrace a try....
[21:18:01] <BET-frogger> tnx
[21:20:11] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger you have os x?
[21:20:23] <matto|wookin> http://www.xmission.com/~redflame/daphne/download/daphne-0.99.6pre3.macosx.tar.gz
[21:20:28] <matto|wookin> wanna test this program out for me? hehe
[21:20:44] <matto|wookin> another guy says it is giving him a "terminated unexpectedly" error or something
[21:20:52] <matto|wookin> I just tried it here at wook and it wooks perfectly
[21:21:38] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin I will test it, but cannot promise to do at once..
[21:22:53] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin matto|wookin ...do I need some orinial games, or does it run stand alone?
[21:23:25] <BET-frogger> Fingolfin thanks, ktrace is exact the tool I was looking for...
[21:25:03] <Fingolfin> matto|wookin: "DaphneLoader" runs, it seems
[21:26:10] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger BET-frogger you should be able to run the loader and start the main daphne exe, at which point you will get an error about missing roms, but that's good enough for my curiosity
[21:26:13] <matto|wookin> Fingolfin ah cool..
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[21:28:50] <matto|wookin> darke!
[21:28:56] <Darke> 'ello.
[21:29:01] <BET-frogger> hi
[21:29:21] * Darke grumbles at his net connection. Silly thing lost all concept of 'DNS' for hours lastnight.
[21:29:45] * matto|wookin chuckles at Darke's unfortunate circumstances
[21:29:48] <matto|wookin> err I mean
[21:29:53] * matto|wookin is very sorry to hear about Darke's problems
[21:30:12] <wjp> surfnet had some major DNS issues the last couple of days too
[21:30:26] <wjp> lots of mails to us have been bouncing because of that... *sigh*
[21:30:37] <Darke> Ick.
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[21:33:42] <wjp> hi
[21:33:49] <Heor> hi
[21:33:58] * Darke flees off to work. Bye!
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[21:34:05] <wjp> bye :-)
[21:34:06] <Heor> are you working on something new?
[21:35:20] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin daphne runs, and comlains about bad command line, I should specify a game
[21:35:31] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger ack
[21:35:33] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin I think it's working
[21:35:42] <wjp> Heor: interesting question :-)
[21:35:45] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger are you running it via DaphneLoader?
[21:35:51] <Heor> why
[21:35:56] <BET-frogger> no cli
[21:35:59] <matto|wookin> ah...
[21:36:03] <wjp> anything in particular you were thinking of?
[21:36:08] <BET-frogger> my desktop is full of terminals...
[21:36:11] <matto|wookin> try running it from the loader.. that's what is causing problems from this other guy
[21:36:15] <matto|wookin> ah I see ...
[21:36:26] <matto|wookin> err.. problems _for_ this other guy
[21:36:49] <Heor> now Exult is finished, isn't it?
[21:37:12] <Heor> and I wanna know if all of you are working on some diferent
[21:37:16] <matto|wookin> Heor I suppose that depends on your definition of finished
[21:37:20] <wjp> 'finished' is not really the right word :-)
[21:37:35] <Heor> stable
[21:37:41] <matto|wookin> I mean, from a certain point of view, it will never be finished :)
[21:37:41] <Heor> that's what it is
[21:37:50] <matto|wookin> it just depends on whether the developers are finished working on it hehe
[21:37:56] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin no icon ;)
[21:38:01] <Heor> ok, but
[21:38:06] <wjp> well, some of us are working on http://pentagram.sf.net/ a bit
[21:38:12] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger hehe... ya... well... I don't know how to make icons on the mac :)
[21:38:25] <wjp> or #pentagram here, but the people there are a strict subset of those here :-)
[21:38:37] <Heor> are u continue improving exult or do you prefer to start a new project?
[21:38:37] * matto|wookin notes that he isn't there
[21:38:44] * matto|wookin wonders if he should feel guilty
[21:39:07] <wjp> we're still fixing bugs in exult
[21:39:13] <Heor> ok
[21:39:38] <Heor> and what about ultima 8, have you started doing some over it?
[21:39:51] * matto|wookin wonders if Heor followed that link that WJP posted
[21:39:59] <wjp> I would guess not :-)
[21:40:37] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin the right edge of the 'start' button is cut off
[21:40:38] <Heor> I see
[21:40:46] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger ya... I need to widen the border around it
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[21:41:15] <matto|wookin> I actually created that using wxWindows (wxwindows.org) and it's not cut off in windows or GTK, so .. I'm not sure why it's cut off on mac...
[21:42:43] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin it makes strance sounds when does not found the image...;)
[21:42:49] <matto|wookin> lol
[21:42:55] <matto|wookin> yes.. :)
[21:43:06] <matto|wookin> that's daphne saying "save me!"
[21:43:12] <matto|wookin> from the game Dragon's Lair
[21:44:23] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin i think the buttons are too close together, and the configure button gets drawn after the start
[21:44:35] <matto|wookin> yes
[21:44:42] <matto|wookin> I think you're right :)
[21:45:52] <matto|wookin> what kind of Mac are you using? the guy who is having problems is on a G3
[21:48:24] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin i've got a ibook with a g3 800 mhz
[21:49:22] <matto|wookin> ok
[21:49:26] <matto|wookin> acknowledged!
[21:49:36] <matto|wookin> that it support altivec optimizations?
[21:49:59] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin the statistics (CPU, MEM & video) in the log file are not working
[21:50:11] <matto|wookin> BET-frogger they are not programmed in
[21:50:16] <BET-frogger> altivec is supported by g4 (and better)
[21:50:20] <matto|wookin> I don't know how to determine that stuff
[21:51:35] <matto|wookin> http://www.rulecity.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/daphne/src/io/network.cpp?rev=1.19&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
[21:51:53] <matto|wookin> there's the code that calculates that info in case your curiosity is piqued :)
[21:53:30] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin ...you said I should test it :)
[21:53:40] <matto|wookin> thx for testing :)
[21:53:49] <matto|wookin> it appears to be working fine
[21:54:01] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin i don't know anything abou osx specific coding...
[21:54:12] <matto|wookin> I only know very little :)
[21:57:18] <BET-frogger> that CVS link is disgusting.....antialiased text for programm code...:)))))))))
[21:57:30] <matto|wookin> hehe
[21:58:51] <matto|wookin> that viewCVS program is cool :)
[21:59:47] <BET-frogger> is this the same as on SF?
[21:59:56] <matto|wookin> I don't know what SF uses
[22:00:33] <BET-frogger> I just want to look, but SF is still down
[22:00:44] <matto|wookin> are they?
[22:00:49] <matto|wookin> I downloaded from them not too long ago
[22:01:46] <BET-frogger> http://sf.net/projects/rtnet says down for maintenance
[22:02:35] <Fingolfin> cvyes
[22:02:47] <Fingolfin> SF.net went down for an unscheduled maintainance
[22:02:58] <matto|wookin> unscheduled and unauthorized ..
[22:03:01] <Fingolfin> <moorman> site is going offline for unplanned maintenance related to the long login times
[22:03:09] <BET-frogger> but I downloaded strace one hour ago..
[22:03:43] <Fingolfin> they went down 10 minutes ago or so
[22:07:20] <Fingolfin> seems they'll be down for ~2 hours
[22:07:38] <matto|wookin> that long.. wow
[22:07:53] <BET-frogger> i was wondering if the have antialiased text in webcvs view....
[22:08:05] <BET-frogger> for CODE...
[22:09:33] <matto|wookin> the anti aliased text is created by your browser, I am sure
[22:10:09] <BET-frogger> matto|wookin of course, but who tells it my browser to do so? :)
[22:10:19] <matto|wookin> I don't know
[22:11:37] <matto|wookin> I assume the browser does anti-aliased text by default
[22:12:54] <BET-frogger> you should not take that antialiasing thing too serious ! :)))
[22:13:11] <BET-frogger> or even me, this evening
[22:13:48] <matto|wookin> hehe ok
[22:13:51] <matto|wookin> it's 3:15 PM here
[22:13:55] <Jammet> Mew.
[22:13:57] <matto|wookin> 11:15 PM there, I assume
[22:14:01] <matto|wookin> JAMMET!!!!
[22:14:07] * Jammet blinks?
[22:14:11] <wjp> 11:15 here, yes
[22:14:12] <Jammet> =^_^= Hej...
[22:14:12] <BET-frogger> it's 23:15 here
[22:14:21] <matto|wookin> oh right.. 23:15...
[22:14:38] * Jammet hops to matto|wookin and sits.
[22:14:56] <matto|wookin> hmmm jammet... you... are DArke's playmate aren't you
[22:15:10] <BET-frogger> oh....harald schmidt time (german late night show)..bye
[22:15:10] * Jammet fluffs confused. "What is a playmate?"
[22:15:26] <matto|wookin> harald schmidt ROCKS
[22:15:42] * Jammet shakes the head negative in response and crossexamines matto|wookin's ear.
[22:15:50] <Jammet> =^_^= Sorry, no idea.
[22:16:43] <Jammet> Maybe I'm confuzzled, I was playing nethack for the last 8 hours straight. We leopardcubs love such games.
[22:17:10] * matto|wookin desperately wishes Darke was here to pick up this conversation
[22:17:15] * wjp never got the hang of nethack
[22:17:28] * Jammet purrs at matto|wookin.
[22:17:28] <wjp> I always seem to die of hunger...
[22:17:44] <Jammet> wjp, You must buy food or slay beasts to eat them.
[22:17:49] <wjp> eating corpses always seems to have the wrong effect :-)
[22:17:51] <matto|wookin> Jammet: Hast du meinen kleinen Hund zum W.C. gehen gesehen?
[22:18:07] <Jammet> matto|wookin: =^_^= Huh?
[22:18:18] <matto|wookin> lol
[22:18:26] <wjp> that seems to be the most common reaction to that sentence :-)
[22:18:35] <matto|wookin> Have you seen my little dog go to the water closet???
[22:18:44] <Jammet> wjp, you must eat it immediately or it will become bad for you. You can make tins of it, but you need a can opener later. No really.
[22:19:05] <wjp> hm, that might help
[22:19:06] <Jammet> matto|wookin, I haven't seen your dog =^_^=. I was playing with a mouse today.
[22:19:42] <Jammet> nethack and Moria are wonderful games.
[22:19:51] <matto|wookin> the Mines of Moria?
[22:19:56] <Jammet> Yeah.
[22:19:59] <wjp> maybe I should try falcon's eye again sometime soon, then
[22:20:03] <matto|wookin> red meat off the bone... roaring fires...
[22:20:16] <Jammet> You have to beat the Balrog to win.
[22:20:23] <matto|wookin> hee hee.. how quaint
[22:20:50] <Jammet> =^_^=. I'm mostly exploring, gaining exp and dig for money in the dungeons, when I find some.
[22:21:00] <Jammet> Dig for gold, that is.
[22:21:17] <Jammet> Much like in UW actually.
[22:22:13] <Jammet> But what is Falcon's Eye?
[22:22:55] <wjp> falcon's eye is a graphical nethack
[22:23:02] <Jammet> Ah, I just google'd it.
[22:23:27] <Jammet> It looks amazing... takes some of nethack's charme but... sure is a good idea too.
[22:23:56] <Jammet> nethack is awfully complex. And Moria not quite as much, that's why I can play that on the palm pilot.
[22:25:02] <Fingolfin> seems SF.net is back up already?
[22:26:28] <Jammet> Works for me.
[22:39:07] <Jammet> Has anyone of you tried Crossfire? It's nethack-like, but cooperative multiplayer.
[22:44:07] <Fingolfin> Jammet: nope (and http://crossfire.real-time.com seems to be down)
[22:44:55] <Fingolfin> the world map sure looks impressive, though :-) http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/crossfire/maps-bigworld/Info/world.gif?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
[22:46:03] <Jammet> Fingolfin: That's odd. The Crossfire site works here, just as well.
[22:46:29] <Jammet> Yeah it's large, isn't it... =).
[22:46:30] <matto|wookin> hey they are using viewcvs too
[22:46:32] <matto|wookin> but an older version
[22:46:53] <Jammet> The game is nifty. So, if anyone later on wants to team up and go catch some monsters with me, ... =).
[22:46:56] <Fingolfin> matto|wookin: that's SF.net ...
[22:47:50] * Fingolfin can't connect to crossfire.real-time.com with a browser, anyway. traceroute output is, uhm, weird
[22:47:54] <Fingolfin> 11 * sl-rtent-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.126) 356.023 ms *
[22:47:55] <Fingolfin> 12 sl-rtent-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.126) 151.651 ms * 152.662 ms
[22:47:55] <Fingolfin> 13 * sl-rtent-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.126) 154.777 ms *
[22:47:55] <Fingolfin> 14 sl-rtent-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.126) 195.649 ms * 203.862 ms
[22:48:07] <Fingolfin> to give you an excerpt... now what's wrong about this picture? :-)
[22:48:34] <Jammet> lynx -unrollloops http://crossfire.real-time.com
[22:48:37] <Jammet> =^_^=
[22:48:40] <matto|wookin> Fingolfin they use old software?
[22:48:56] <Fingolfin> Jammet: using lynx won't help me if my packets never reach the server...
[22:49:13] <Jammet> Fingolfin: I was just pulling off this unroll-loops joke =).
[22:49:32] <Jammet> Perhaps you can remote login to some other host and check from there.
[22:50:05] <Fingolfin> stupid sprintlink.net <sigh>
[22:56:59] <wjp> site works for me
[23:08:15] <Fingolfin> well I can't even traceroute to it :-(
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[23:42:20] <wjp> I should go
[23:42:21] <wjp> 'night
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[23:50:47] <BET-frogger> wjp bye
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[23:54:03] <Yuv422> Fingolfin: Did you know that sizeof(bool) on OS X is 4 bytes! :(
[23:55:47] <Fingolfin> nope, evil, file a bug report... does that work right in GCC on say linux?
[23:55:53] <Fingolfin> "right" = 1 byte
[23:56:53] <Fingolfin> hmm
[23:57:00] <Fingolfin> with g++2 I also get this result, interesting
[23:57:31] <matto|wookin> 4 bytes?
[23:57:58] <Fingolfin> lol
[23:58:03] <matto|wookin> maybe it's designed to be the same size of an int for speed purposes
[23:58:11] <Fingolfin> I think, maybe bool is defined to be some "integral size" depending on the processor?
[23:58:13] <matto|wookin> err same size as an int
[23:58:32] <Fingolfin> on an Alpha machine with 2.95.2, I get 8 bytes ...
[23:58:54] <matto|wookin> I've read that 32-bit machines take a speed bit when accessing just 8-bits from memory
[23:59:22] <Fingolfin> on this RH 7.3 box with gcc 2.96, it's 1 byte