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[01:51:41] <WishStone> anyone here still awake?
[01:52:19] <Baastuul> Hullo!
[01:52:40] <WishStone> You might want to head over to irc1.ianstorm.com and jin the channels #ultima-online and #uosc ...
[01:52:50] <WishStone> jin? Join!
[01:52:57] <Baastuul> Alright, maybe I will. What's going on?
[01:53:08] <WishStone> Some of OSI's folks comming over.
[01:53:24] <Baastuul> Ooh, neat.
[01:54:24] <WishStone> Sannio and Speedman here so far
[01:54:39] <Baastuul> I actually have an unused copy of Age of Shadows sitting in my closet. I haven't gotten around to playing it yet. Figured I didn't really want to. Just wanted to get the box into my collection o' Ultima junk.
[01:55:34] <WishStone> *grins* Know the feeling
[01:55:42] <WishStone> Bought a TD box recently... just to have it.
[01:55:47] <WishStone> I HATE the 3D client :P
[01:56:02] <Baastuul> Hehehehe
[01:56:11] <Baastuul> I remember getting Third Dawn
[01:56:24] <Baastuul> It was just about 3 days before Lord Blackthorn's Revenge came out
[01:56:34] <Baastuul> And I was like, "I'd better get to the mall to pick it up before it's too late."
[01:56:59] <Baastuul> So I went there and picked up the second to last copy of it and the dude at the counter was like, "Er, uh, hey, you know that on Wednesday Lord Blackthorn's Revenge is coming out, right?"
[01:57:07] <Baastuul> And I said, "Yep. I'm just an Ultima fan. I want the box!"
[01:57:10] <Baastuul> I felt like such a dweeb.
[01:57:14] <WishStone> :D
[01:57:43] <Baastuul> How long have you been playing UO?
[01:57:55] <WishStone> When I got UO (1.5 years after release) I was lucky enough to grab a limited edition box....
[01:58:07] <WishStone> 5 years with one, 4 years with two accounts ;D
[01:58:33] <Baastuul> Hehehe, neat.
[01:58:39] <Baastuul> I played for about one year, if that.
[01:58:41] <WishStone> I took the pweter pin to a goldsmith and said "I want THAT as a silver copy to hang on a leather cord, please".
[01:58:49] <WishStone> That was my most expensive UO buy ;D
[01:59:00] <Baastuul> From about the summer of 2000 to late winter/early spring of 2001.
[01:59:07] <Baastuul> Just got tired of it, had no friends in the game. :(
[01:59:32] <Baastuul> I played on and off on free accounts I got from my expansion pack purchases, though.
[01:59:40] <Baastuul> And I have my Third Dawn alpha test CD still :D
[01:59:49] <Baastuul> How much did that silver copy cost?
[02:00:48] <Baastuul> (heh, what a coinkinkydink... Bell_of_Ygg [in #ultima-online] is also in another channel I'm a regular of on another network)
[02:01:49] <Baastuul> (same with Ray)
[02:02:15] <WishStone> Cost me...
[02:02:18] <WishStone> *thinks back
[02:02:31] <WishStone> some 150DM... roughly 70-80$
[02:03:44] <WishStone> ... ew!
[02:03:45] <WishStone> [03:14] * Hanse rolls in a cartload of dead and bloated mongbats.
[02:03:53] <WishStone> [03:14] * Hanse puts on some large, thick, rubber gloves.
[02:04:02] <WishStone> What an opening :P
[02:04:10] <Baastuul> hehehehe
[02:04:15] <WishStone> [03:14] * OSI_Speedman wonders what Hanse is doing with dead mongbats
[02:04:15] <WishStone> [03:14] * Hanse removes a mongbat corpse with a slight squelching noise and loads it into a small catapult.
[02:05:07] <WishStone> [03:15] * Hanse pulls a lever and flings the corpse at the crowd where it lands with a squishy slap.
[02:05:09] <WishStone> Mhmmm
[02:05:57] <Baastuul> So what part of Germany are you from?
[02:06:30] <WishStone> Münster, currently
[02:06:32] <WishStone> West
[02:07:10] <Baastuul> Cool :D
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[02:29:07] <Baastuul> Hullo.
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[04:49:05] <Calindor> I need help getting the map editor to work, can anyone be of assitance to me
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[07:13:38] <servus> It feels so beautiful to get everything working.
[07:30:03] * servus grumbles because he mistakenly thought Gnome could dock items into a system tray... can't anything other than KDE?
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[11:26:25] <Dominus> hi
[11:28:31] <Dominus> wjp: I'm confused on the config loaction on OS X. Is the location now correct? ~/Library/Preferences/exult.cfg or $HOME/.exult.cfg
[11:28:52] <wjp> the Library one
[11:29:07] <wjp> that's what it should say in README now
[11:29:17] <Dominus> the user-answer in the forum was confusing me
[11:29:44] <wjp> he was pointing out what the rc1 readme said
[11:30:57] <Dominus> yeah, but he didn't say if that post of mine was the solution or if he found it in $Home or library or under his carpet.. so I got confused :-)
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[12:11:40] <OGl> Good day for you all
[12:12:15] <Dominus> hi
[12:13:09] <OGl> i was looking at your project
[12:13:13] <OGl> very nice :)
[12:13:29] <Dominus> thanks (on behalf of the team :-))
[12:14:23] <OGl> im trying o find u7 to buy here
[12:14:33] <OGl> im brazilian ;)
[12:14:42] <OGl> its too hard
[12:14:56] <Dominus> try looking for the Ultima Collection on Ebay
[12:15:19] <OGl> yep
[12:15:22] <OGl> illdo that
[12:15:26] <OGl> and U8
[12:15:32] <OGl> need you guys help?
[12:15:46] <Dominus> Ultima Collection has the Ultimas 1-8
[12:15:59] <OGl> well i was talking about exult now
[12:16:00] <OGl> :P
[12:16:57] <Dominus> huh? I thought you were looking for U8 and I only wanted to tell you that u8 is also in the Ultima Collection
[12:17:10] <OGl> i have u8 in the box :D
[12:17:15] <OGl> only u7 i dont
[12:17:15] <Dominus> ah
[12:17:51] <OGl> maybe i can help with code
[12:17:55] <Dominus> then you will be happy to learn about http://pentagram.sf.net (if you don'T already know about that)
[12:18:07] <OGl> ohhh
[12:18:13] <OGl> there is a project about it
[12:18:37] <Dominus> by some of the exult team memebers
[12:20:15] <Dominus> help with coding is always appreciated. Mostly we suggest that people wanting to help take a look at the source first
[12:21:22] <Dominus> if there's anything you feel like fixing and/or adding we will be happy to have your input
[12:25:08] <OGl> oka :)
[12:25:10] <OGl> thanks
[12:25:24] <OGl> good bye my friend ;)
[12:25:28] <Dominus> bye
[12:25:29] <OGl> i need to work
[12:25:32] <OGl> hehe
[12:25:37] <Dominus> :-)
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[13:37:50] <Dominus> hmm, somehow missed the 1.27 release of sdl...
[13:38:03] <wjp> :-)
[13:39:10] <Dominus> seems this could fix my joystick problem with dosbox
[13:54:17] <Dominus> Kirben the new exult_studio_dev_win32.zip has some problem with mingw/lib/libglade-2.0.a
[13:54:35] <Dominus> c:/mingw/lib/libglade-2.0.a(glade-parser.o)(.text+0xf39): In function `glade_parser_end_element':
[13:54:35] <Dominus> C:/msys/1.0/home/kirben/libglade-2.0.1/glade/glade-parser.c:903: undefined reference to `_imp__libintl_dgettext'
[13:55:04] <Dominus> the old one works correctly. the path C:/msys/1.0/home/kirben/libglade-2.0.1/ looks very suspicious
[13:58:53] <Kirben> hmm not sure what would cause that one.
[13:59:34] <Dominus> the old one I had backed up works fine and Studio works as well then
[14:00:22] <Kirben> Any other problems ? were exult and tools builds ok ?
[14:00:40] <Dominus> yup
[14:00:55] <Dominus> only complained on final linking when building studio
[14:02:34] <Kirben> hmm maybe try just adding back older libglade-2.0.a
[14:02:54] <Dominus> yeah, that one works fine
[14:05:23] <Dominus> ooh, problems in building the gimp tool
[14:06:12] <Kirben> I have not tried building that for a long time
[14:06:26] <Dominus> he he, probably worked until yesterday :-)
[14:07:16] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:11:20: config.h: No such file or directory
[14:07:16] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:20:26: libgimp/gimp.h: No such file or directory
[14:07:16] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:21:28: libgimp/gimpui.h: No such file or directory
[14:07:16] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:35: error: syntax error before '*' token
[14:07:16] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:48: error: syntax error before "run_mode"
[14:07:17] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:48: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
[14:07:19] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:117: error: syntax error before "PLUG_IN_INFO"
[14:07:21] <Dominus> mapedit/u7shp.c:119: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast
[14:07:32] <Dominus> and so on
[14:08:25] <Kirben> Well there is currently no point is compiling anyway, win32 gimp is still based on older GTK 1.x.
[14:08:52] <Dominus> the upcoming 2.0 as well?
[14:10:22] <Dominus> oh well, currently I'm not using the gimp anyway so really no point in compiling it :-)
[14:10:28] <Kirben> Not sure, can't see any mention of changing on win32 gimp homepage.
[14:12:13] <wjp> hm, problem is that config.h can't be found
[14:12:37] <wjp> I could probably make it not require config.h
[14:12:40] <wjp> but not now
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[16:14:30] <Dominus> dosbox doesn't like sdl 1.27? Can't compile it with the new one...
[16:15:21] <wjp> hm, I'll try when I get home
[16:16:42] <wjp> (which should be soon since I'm leaving now :-) )
[16:16:47] <Dominus> I get an error on sdlmain.cpp at line 355 (or so, running it again and will post in the dosbox forum)
[16:18:27] <Dominus> make[3]: Entering directory `/e/cvs/dosbox/src/gui'
[16:18:27] <Dominus> if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include -g -O2 -I/usr/local/cross-tools/i386-mingw32msvc/include/SDL -Dmain=SDL_main -MT sdlmain.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/sdlmain.Tpo" -c -o sdlmain.o sdlmain.cpp; \
[16:18:27] <Dominus> then mv -f ".deps/sdlmain.Tpo" ".deps/sdlmain.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/sdlmain.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
[16:18:27] <Dominus> sdlmain.cpp: In function `void GFX_SetSize(unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned
[16:18:27] <Dominus> int, double, double, void (*)())':
[16:18:29] <Dominus> sdlmain.cpp:335: error: `glPixelDataRangeNV' undeclared (first use this
[16:18:31] <Dominus> function)
[16:18:33] <Dominus> sdlmain.cpp:335: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
[16:18:35] <Dominus> each function it appears in.)
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[16:51:06] <wjp> hm, opengl stuff
[16:57:15] <wjp> it's SDL 1.2.7, btw, not 1.27 :-)
[17:08:35] <Dominus> bah
[17:13:40] <wjp> that piece of code seems to be win32 specific, btw
[17:17:08] <Dominus> thanks for checking. I posted it also on the Dosbox forum on vogons
[17:17:45] <wjp> yeah, I saw your post
[17:18:08] * wjp also notices the version number just changed in that post :-)
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[17:18:44] <Dominus> he he
[17:28:46] <Dominus> he he, the netherlands send more spam than germany :-)
[17:32:30] <wjp> yay Netherlands! oh wait, that's bad, isn't it? :-)
[17:32:49] * Dominus shrugs
[17:32:52] <Dominus> I think so
[17:33:08] <Dominus> OTOH it adds to the economy :-)
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[18:57:46] <wjp> hi Fingolfin
[19:00:25] <Fingolfin> yo
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[20:56:59] <WishStone> Good evening!
[20:58:09] <wjp> hi :-)
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[21:43:20] <WishStone> hmpf
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