#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 27 Jan 2004 (GMT)

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[08:55:56] <Dominus> hi
[08:58:40] <Darke> Hiya.
[09:01:11] <Dominus> wow, you are not sleeping for a change :-)
[09:02:14] <Darke> Yep! I appear to do a wee bit too much napping. *grin*
[09:04:53] <Dominus> as opposed to me... I'm getting more and more insomniac...
[09:06:52] <Darke> Heh.
[09:08:16] <servus> Darke sleepgnawed me
[09:08:18] * Darke has problems getting to sleep, then when he does, has problems waking up. *grin*
[09:09:46] <Dominus> I have problems getting to sleep, then problems staying asleep for about 4 hours and if I'm still in bed after these 4 hours without interruption, I have problems waking up as well
[09:14:24] <Dominus> ok, last minute changes to faq and readme in cvs now :-)
[09:30:50] <wjp> hi
[09:31:10] <Dominus> hi wjp
[09:31:36] <Dominus> I had some "problem" earlier with your changes to the doc layout...
[09:32:12] <Dominus> onyl the problem was caused by my not having the new docs.dtd in the dir I do the changes in :-)
[09:32:26] <wjp> did I forget to commit it or did you have it in the wrong dir? :-)
[09:32:35] <Dominus> wrong dit
[09:32:37] <Dominus> dir
[09:33:30] <Dominus> I do the work on it in another dir, saves me the time to get a clean version when I do something stupid...
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[09:39:18] <Dominus> going agaim...
[09:39:20] <Dominus> bye
[09:39:23] <Darke> Bye.
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[12:30:45] <Colourless> hi
[12:30:48] <wjp> hi
[12:42:35] <Colourless> are we ok to go for today?
[12:45:02] <wjp> as far as I'm concerned
[12:57:10] <Colourless> well, i'm ready to go. I've even got the package already built for once before the release :-)
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[13:27:01] <WishStone> *greets*
[13:29:59] * wjp waves
[13:31:16] <Colourless> hi
[13:31:27] <WishStone> Hello, oh exhalted ones ;D
[13:32:18] <wjp> exhalted? does that mean we were once halted but have now resumed?
[13:32:38] <WishStone> Well, no, you program ExUlt, so...
[13:33:37] <wjp> ;-)
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[13:50:35] <Ranger> .... oh my god...
[13:51:29] <Colourless> no gods here
[13:51:53] <Ranger> No kidding... Just found a page showing a flash movie with pictures of illegal dog fighting and other curelties done to Stafford Terriers.....
[13:54:16] <Colourless> some people are.... uncivilized
[13:54:42] <Ranger> that's too nice a term...
[13:55:27] <Ranger> Some of these dogs look like they would be beautyfull creatures... if they wouldn't lie in their own blood, be scarred from whips and brunts and... +shudders*
[13:55:45] <Ranger> Sadly, as long as people pay for it, others will do it :[
[13:56:40] <Colourless> AFAIK they dont pay for it, they do it for the gambling
[13:56:52] <Ranger> Oh geez...
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[14:09:45] <Ranger> there we go...
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[14:10:44] <Colourless> you should register you nick with nickserv so you will always be able to get your old nick back if you lose your connection
[14:12:44] <WishStone> I have it registered....
[14:12:52] <WishStone> But I'm too lazy to ghost :P
[14:13:07] <Colourless> well you're just lazy :-)
[14:13:14] <WishStone> (Besides, I thought it would settlke itself in a few moments, not MINUTES :P ;])
[14:14:58] <wjp> not familiar with freenode? :-)
[14:15:33] <Colourless> once by looking at exultbot's logs it didn't know i was gone till about 2 hours after i disconnected
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[14:18:14] <Ranger> there :P
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[14:18:19] <Colourless> it's attack of the clones
[14:18:20] <wjp> :-)
[14:18:35] <WishStone> Beware!!!!
[14:18:53] <WishStone> Hmmm... half past 3... time for breakfast!
[14:19:39] <wjp> yikes :-)
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[14:23:06] <WishStone> Well, no, not breakfast... I had half a liter of milk for breakfast ;D
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[16:20:15] <wjp> time to go home I guess; I'll bbl
[16:20:41] <Colourless> cya
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[17:12:59] * wjp is back
[17:13:30] <Colourless> wb :-)
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[19:00:33] <wjp> hm, just noticed I still hadn't got rid of that monsnpcs.dat error/warning
[19:01:59] <wjp> anyway... it's about time to release I guess
[19:02:29] <wjp> I could build from a 'make dist', so that's still working fine
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[19:14:17] <Colourless> when it's done, just tell me so i can start the slow process of uploading the windows version
[19:14:37] <WishStone> *waves*
[19:14:47] <wjp> I'm just trying if the .spec still works
[19:14:59] <wjp> (building on a dual P4 2.4)
[19:15:02] <Colourless> hello again
[19:15:05] <wjp> hi
[19:15:09] <WishStone> Hiya hiya
[19:17:09] <wjp> kind of a waste rpmbuild only seems to be using one cpu
[19:17:53] <wjp> anyway, I expect to tag in a few minutes
[19:17:59] <Colourless> oh no, how could you possibly survive the slowness of only 1 P4 2.4
[19:18:33] <wjp> still a waste :-)
[19:19:06] <wjp> effects.cc... exult.cc...
[19:19:33] <wjp> oh
[19:19:35] <wjp> wait a sec
[19:19:45] <wjp> NEWS still needs updating
[19:19:56] <Colourless> oh no :-)
[19:20:05] <Colourless> i'm going to have to rebuild my package too
[19:20:06] <Colourless> :-)
[19:20:20] <wjp> ugh
[19:20:21] <wjp> build failed
[19:20:25] <Colourless> of course that takes, oh, 10 seconds or so since it's only a text file
[19:20:40] <Colourless> uh oh :-)
[19:20:53] <wjp> missing libraries
[19:20:58] <wjp> I wonder why it waited this long to tell me
[19:21:44] <Colourless> because the autoconf check passed wrongly
[19:25:28] <wjp> well
[19:25:36] <wjp> it's complaining about ogg libraries
[19:26:24] <Colourless> that's... odd.
[19:26:49] <Colourless> it's SDL Mixer that needs ogg libraries
[19:27:33] <wjp> oh, I see
[19:28:28] <wjp> SDL_mixer-devel is installed, but libvorbis-devel isn't
[19:29:00] <wjp> I don't think it would technically need it, but libtool adds it to the link commandline
[19:29:32] * wjp sighs
[19:30:02] <wjp> committed new NEWS, btw
[19:30:20] <Colourless> cool
[19:36:49] <wjp> linking...
[19:37:06] <wjp> and there's the next error :-)
[19:37:26] <wjp> missing exult.png and exult.desktop
[19:38:20] * wjp just loves packaging
[19:39:10] <wjp> ah, it tries to detect gnome by looking for gnome-config
[19:42:40] <wjp> I wish I had an idea on how to properly install these things for gnome2 :-)
[19:43:32] <wjp> I also wish I'd tried this a few days ago :-)
[19:43:51] * WishStone hears several "wish's and looks up
[19:43:52] <WishStone> Hum?
[19:43:54] <WishStone> :p
[19:44:22] <wjp> anyway, no matter
[19:44:46] <wjp> will leave this for the 1.2 release
[19:44:51] <wjp> so... tag? :-)
[19:45:11] <Colourless> so if you worked for a software company you would say something like "Put it in a box and ship it?"
[19:45:23] <wjp> this is just a RC, you know :-)
[19:46:19] <wjp> so I can live with a minor packaging issue
[19:47:08] <wjp> (the problem is that it tries to detect gnome development packages instead of a 'normal' gnome install)
[19:55:58] <wjp> tagged Release119rc1
[19:57:21] <Colourless> exult-1.1.9rc1 for filenames?
[19:57:25] <wjp> yes
[19:57:34] * Colourless begins uploading
[19:57:59] * wjp buils source package on uni machine
[20:01:59] <wjp> ok, on second thought it's a good idea I didn't try to build in parallel
[20:02:18] <wjp> something related to those compiler .data files breaks it
[20:03:49] <wjp> I should assign that as a bug to Darke :-)
[20:10:53] <wjp> heh, SF site status update: they're rejecting all mails containing .zip attachments. I wonder why :-)
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[20:11:58] <wjp> hi
[20:12:13] <Dominus> hi
[20:12:57] <Dominus> seems you are all set for a release :-)
[20:15:39] <Dominus> and on time, sf.net was really slow for me today...
[20:16:04] <Colourless> hi Dominus
[20:16:18] <Colourless> only 3 and a half minutes till my upload is finished
[20:17:17] <Dominus> go Colourless go...
[20:17:49] <Dominus> I wonder if that will be the one and only rc1 upload for you... (not like other releases)
[20:18:32] <Colourless> i only had to reupload once IIRC
[20:19:01] <Colourless> that was 1.1 beta1 that i totally messed up since it was missing a vital file or 2
[20:19:18] <Dominus> thought it was more often. nevermind
[20:19:37] <Colourless> ok, uploaded
[20:20:05] <wjp> k, I'll add it to the release
[20:20:11] <Colourless> great
[20:20:25] <Colourless> i think you can work out it's file type :-)
[20:20:34] <Colourless> and platform
[20:20:46] <wjp> i386/.exe (32-bit windows)
[20:20:51] <Colourless> :-)
[20:21:39] <Colourless> it disappeared from the incoming dir :-)
[20:21:47] <wjp> oh no! :-)
[20:23:47] <wjp> ok, rpms built
[20:24:37] <Dominus> today is a sad day, I had to send in my dLan USB adapter (for network over the powerline) the 2nd time. Damn thing is not working correctly. I wonder if the 2nd replacement will keep on working
[20:25:28] <Dominus> apart from that the usb part of my network only seems to last a month the network is running great...
[20:26:05] * Dominus is just ranting
[20:27:00] <Colourless> this is pretty terrible. Beta1 July, Beta2 August (1 month), Beta3 October (2 months), RC1 January (3 months)
[20:27:16] <wjp> release May (4 months) ? :-)
[20:27:20] <Colourless> :-)
[20:27:24] <Dominus> RC2 in May :-)
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[20:31:05] <wjp> anyway, it seems source/redhat/win32 is done
[20:32:11] <wjp> anyone want to write a little announcement for the forum/ML/homepage?
[20:32:36] * wjp looks around hopefully
[20:33:03] <Colourless> I know, we need a webmaster... or 2... or 3... or 4...
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[20:34:39] <wjp> source grew a full 100Kb
[20:35:17] <Colourless> that's quite a bit
[20:41:31] <wjp> k, download page done
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[21:25:49] <wjp> hi Max
[21:26:00] <Fingolfin> hi
[21:26:09] <wjp> would you happen to have some time to make OSX packages this week? :-)
[21:26:52] <Fingolfin> hum?
[21:26:56] <Fingolfin> YAER?
[21:27:08] <Dominus> hi Fingolfin
[21:28:29] * Fingolfin checks if HEAD CVS compiles ATM
[21:40:35] <wjp> kernel upgrade time... I really hope I'll be back soon :-)
[21:42:45] <WishStone> poor you
[21:43:42] <wjp> amazing... I actually didn't forget anything this time, so I'm back already :-)
[21:45:19] <WishStone> !
[21:46:27] <wjp> bbl again... going to do some hardware tinkering now :-)
[21:47:39] <WishStone> enjoy ;]
[21:50:29] <Colourless> cya wjp
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[21:58:59] * wjp grumbles and rebuilds kernel with slightly different settings
[21:59:18] <WishStone> havin fun? :P
[21:59:22] <wjp> oh yes :-)
[21:59:59] <wjp> nothing like building a module and then afterwards finding out that it won't work properly as a module but only when compiled into the kernel :-)
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[22:01:30] <wjp> right, another reboot :-)
[22:04:04] <Dominus> bbl (?)
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[22:07:29] <wjp> all done, I hope :-)
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[23:20:21] <wjp> Fingolfin: any luck with compiling exult cvs?
[23:35:41] <wjp> hm, time to go; 'night
[23:40:41] <Fingolfin> wjp: it is actually still compiling :-)
[23:41:11] * wjp is actually still here :-)
[23:41:19] <wjp> any ETA?
[23:41:53] <Fingolfin> it'S at sigame.cc right now
[23:41:58] <wjp> ah, close, then
[23:42:05] <Fingolfin> txtscroll
[23:42:20] <Fingolfin> and linking now
[23:43:14] <Fingolfin> ...which fails. Not fault of exult, though <sigh>
[23:43:19] <Fingolfin> problem with SDL/CVS on OS X
[23:43:43] <wjp> speaking of SDL, this is weird...
[23:43:45] <Fingolfin> (it created a semi-broken libSDL.la file)
[23:43:52] <wjp> why is sdl-config called in three different ways in sdl.m4?
[23:44:33] <wjp> $SDL_CONFIG $sdlconf_args, $SDL_CONFIG $sdl_args, $SDL_CONFIG $sdl_config_args
[23:45:07] <wjp> how broken is semi-broken?
[23:45:30] <Fingolfin> the dependency_libs contain -framework options, i.e.
[23:45:31] <Fingolfin> dependency_libs=' -framework OpenGL -framework AGL -framework IOKit -framework AudioToolbox -framework AudioUnit -lstdc++ -framework Cocoa -framework Carbon -framework QuickTime'
[23:45:46] <Fingolfin> -> older (read: all released) versions of libtool don't support -framework like that...
[23:46:27] <wjp> ah, so SDL CVS would need libtool CVS currently?
[23:47:57] <Fingolfin> no, it still ships its own libtool, but instead of badly hacked up one, it uses almost standard libtool - plus at least one mod, which is from libtool CVS, and adds support for "-framework"
[23:48:06] <wjp> ah
[23:48:15] <Fingolfin> however, it turns out that patch actually is buggy in so far as it should probably not copy the -framework into the .la...
[23:48:36] <Fingolfin> I need to talk to the Peter (the guy who submitted the patch to libtool; he's got libtool CVS write access, too, and is a friend :-)
[23:48:49] <wjp> :-)
[23:51:48] <wjp> well, I really need to go now :-)
[23:51:55] <wjp> g'night