#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 27 Jan 2011 (GMT)

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[04:14:00] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: For some reason, the identity of my Exult Devel game seems to have a newline in it
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[18:27:10] <eviltar1> idk if I found bug in the trunk version, or if it's a fluke due to my system
[18:28:47] <eviltar1> but if i run the game at 400x300 x2 in an 800x600 window, everything is normal, but when i run at 300x200 in 640x480 full screen i cant click the words in a conversation
[18:29:54] <eviltar1> well i can if i image the screen is half size, so i would have to click around finnigens portrait to click 'yes' when he asks you to investigate in the beginning
[18:43:35] <Dominus> interesting, which scaler?
[18:44:42] <eviltar1> scale 2x
[18:45:23] <eviltar1> also, i noticed exult messages.txt for French and German are a little less complete?
[18:46:33] <eviltar1> I'm getting translations for the english messages.txt if anyone wants them dropped in their inbox
[18:47:49] <eviltar1> from native French/German speaking friends
[19:22:29] <Dominus> yes, would be nice
[19:23:09] <Dominus> but which scaler? (not the factor - the name) and what other settings, aspect correction, fill method?
[19:23:25] <eviltar1> scale2x scaler
[19:23:58] <eviltar1> fit, no aspect correction and point
[19:25:35] <Dominus> hmm, can't reproduce.
[19:25:59] <Dominus> might be a problem with fullscreen on the xbox (probably s SDL problem)
[19:33:13] <eviltar1> i'll buy that, thanks for checking
[19:59:11] <eviltar1> http://pastebin.com/a8YkZ5TY
[19:59:39] <eviltar1> idk how well pastebin works with unicode chars
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[20:06:42] <Malignant_Manor> I don't think the font has accented characters.
[20:10:17] <Malignant_Manor> I guess the in game fonts probably do though.
[20:11:46] <eviltar1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPWJ0pJQIl0&feature=related
[20:12:31] <Malignant_Manor> The fonts in the Exult data folder don't
[20:12:39] <eviltar1> ah
[20:13:04] <Malignant_Manor> It would be nice to add them though since it would be good to have everything translated.
[20:13:37] <eviltar1> well i can open that in notepad++ and change the accented chars
[20:13:43] <Malignant_Manor> It's really bad that the Exult gumps don't have any translations.
[20:14:09] <Malignant_Manor> Exult should use the in game fonts for those messages.
[20:14:29] <Malignant_Manor> I'll have to double check
[20:15:52] <eviltar1> well, i have some nice friends in France and Germany if there's anything I could do, I can't guarantee their time but it's likely they'd help
[20:16:58] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: aren't you fluent in German?
[20:19:38] <Malignant_Manor> The intro and endings use the game fonts so it should be fine to have accented characters there.
[20:21:44] <eviltar1> well
[20:21:57] <eviltar1> if i recal correctly
[20:22:15] <eviltar1> the german version of the game didn't have the ending captions
[20:22:20] <eviltar1> or they were in english
[20:22:43] <eviltar1> maybe for only one of the endings, i'm not too familiar
[20:25:05] <Malignant_Manor> The fonts in exult.flx are only used in exultmenu.cc
[20:27:23] <eviltar1> ah
[20:27:44] <eviltar1> well the exultmsg_fr.txt is using accented charectors
[20:27:58] <eviltar1> the one distributed with the source now
[20:28:19] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah, it should work fine.
[20:28:30] <eviltar1> i'd venture to say it should be safe to roll with that
[20:29:24] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah, another bug report has been posted about disappearing objects.
[21:29:13] <Dominus> I'm fluent in German :)
[21:29:37] <Dominus> I just never bothered with the localized exultmsg.txt
[21:30:32] <Malignant_Manor> eviltar1: can you link to the German exultmsg.txt?
[21:30:53] <Dominus> because 1. I'm not sure they are even used (they are not bundled with exult, so...) and 2. I'm not playing the games without the addons and only the non-addon games are localized
[21:31:32] <eviltar1> i have the german one i ran through systran's web translator
[21:31:46] <eviltar1> not the proofed on back from my friend yet
[21:32:10] <Dominus> he he, the web translator is probably fun :)
[21:32:12] <Malignant_Manor> Oh, god a web translation
[21:32:32] <Malignant_Manor> Those are really horrible
[21:32:43] <eviltar1> the French one wasn't a web translation
[21:32:59] <Dominus> run the web translation to german, then the german translation into franch and then back into english... that should proof to be fun :)
[21:33:00] <eviltar1> http://pastebin.com/t4sxZmTS
[21:34:11] <Malignant_Manor> 0x50c: The user of this bed will probably just put a value to society.
[21:34:40] <Malignant_Manor> 0x50c:Der Benutzer dieses Bettes wird wohl gerade keinen Wert auf Gesellschaft legen.
[21:36:33] <eviltar1> i think those were in the orginal exultmsg_de.txt ;)
[21:37:08] <eviltar1> i just added the stuff that was missing that the english messages had
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[21:52:39] <Dominus> malignant: do we actually make use of the localization or is thtat something one would need to do slef, by copying the localized to exultmsg.txt?
[21:53:34] <Dominus> and I think the localization should probably be ripped off the original game :)
[21:53:44] <Dominus> the web translation is *horrible* at times :)
[21:54:06] <Malignant_Manor> They probably have to manually add it to the data folder.
[21:54:16] <Malignant_Manor> and change the name
[21:57:55] <Malignant_Manor> That's what you need to do. I just tried it.
[21:59:31] <Dominus> the intro messages translations are hilarious,
[22:00:24] <Malignant_Manor> degradation of the scholarship
[22:00:26] <Dominus> web translators don't cut it there since word placement in German sentences is different and thus the line by line translation doesn't work :)
[22:01:20] <Malignant_Manor> Well, you have the German versions with their localization.
[22:01:57] <Dominus> yeah, will need to dig it out
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[22:17:27] <Malignant_Manor> Well, I'm off for now.
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