#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 28 Nov 2001 (GMT)

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[00:38:14] <rovragge> anyone awake?
[00:40:52] <rovragge> with 8 in the party, sitting down properly to set sail takes an awful lot of time
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[08:20:30] * Darke bows. "Hello, very empty channel!" <grin>
[08:20:44] <matto> Darke!!!
[08:20:59] <matto> I did a little research on dcc voice ... it runs at 8000 hz (telephone quality)
[08:21:07] <matto> and uses a little compression
[08:21:11] * Darke sweeps the two extraneous exclamation marks into his portable hole.
[08:21:19] <matto> ?
[08:21:20] <Darke> (dcc-voice) Cool.
[08:21:22] <matto> !!!
[08:21:43] * Darke throws 3 more exclamation marks in the hole.
[08:21:56] <Darke> (followed by a question mark.)
[08:22:22] * matto responds with dead silence to see if Darke can throw silence into his hole also
[08:23:14] * Darke slides the hole underneath matto's feet and watches him drop a metre into the 'floor' of it.
[08:23:28] <matto> ack!
[08:23:35] <matto> wait, I can be reasonable!
[08:24:02] <Darke> Actually I think that's three feet. I just can't remember the specs of an AD&D portable hole.
[08:24:23] <matto> I suspect much of the AD&D rules were arbitrary
[08:24:26] * Darke picks the hole up and shakes matto out. A couple of exclamation marks fall out with him.
[08:24:42] * matto chews absently on an exclamation mark
[08:24:43] <matto> hmm these are good
[08:24:53] <Darke> IIRC it was a 'cubic yard' of space.
[08:25:04] <matto> oh no, the wonderful topic is gone!
[08:25:26] * Darke nods SharpTooth mentioned they tasted rather nice. He still doesn't know what prompted him to nibble on one though.
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[08:26:17] * Darke bows to the weird creature that wanders in then out.
[08:26:27] <matto> I have ops under that other nickname hehe
[08:26:36] * Darke ahh!fluffs.
[08:26:46] <matto> but I don't believe I have it under this nick
[08:27:06] --- Darke has changed the topic to: exult: Ultima 7 for those who just don't *do* Voodoo. <fluff>
[08:28:55] * Darke thanks you for ops. That lack of topic was getting annoying. <grin>
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[08:41:58] <Nadir> hi
[08:44:25] <Darke> Hello. <bow>
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[09:28:47] <Kirben> Hi
[09:29:10] <Kirben> Nadir: you are welcome to delete snapshot if you want, I can't right now.
[09:30:17] <Nadir> hi Kirben. Do you have an earlier snapshot ?
[09:30:27] <Kirben> nope
[09:30:58] <Kirben> Just backed up everything up earlier since I was doing WinXP update.
[09:31:15] <Kirben> BTW ultima 7 still doesn't run in WinXP
[09:31:23] <Nadir> the original you mean ?
[09:31:37] <Kirben> yes
[09:31:48] <Nadir> it seemed a bit strange that it would...
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[09:32:17] <Nadir> hi Dom
[09:32:25] <Dominus> hi
[09:33:00] <Dominus> while talking about the original in XP... just as we found out yesterday - it only works with the intor and then quits
[09:33:22] <Dominus> intro even
[09:33:28] <Nadir> how useless
[09:33:28] <Nadir> :)
[09:33:38] <Dominus> true
[09:33:45] <Nadir> Kirben: I removed the snapshot. maybe I should put a warning there
[09:34:43] <Dominus> he he
[09:35:06] <matto> Dominus!! trilluser!!
[09:35:16] <Kirben> might want to remove source code snapshot too since it is marked as beta!
[09:35:54] <Dominus> matto!!!
[09:36:38] <Nadir> what's a trilluser ?
[09:36:43] <Nadir> Kirben: done
[09:36:52] <Dominus> Nadir: a secret Drug
[09:36:55] <Dominus> :-)
[09:37:31] <Dominus> nope, a chat interface which works for AIM,ICQ,IRC,mSN, YahooMessenger
[09:37:34] <Nadir> Kirben: sorry for that, yesterday I wanted to mention the problem with updating version numbers two days before release, but then I forgo
[09:37:37] <Nadir> trillian
[09:37:49] <Dominus> right
[09:37:55] <Nadir> I use GAIM under Linux
[09:38:30] <Nadir> which does the same
[09:38:38] <matto> I didn't know gaim worked with all of them
[09:38:53] <Dominus> I'm still waiting for the new version of Trillian which will hopefully fix all the issues with IRC (main issue, can send DCC but not receive)
[09:38:56] <matto> I've been using everybuddy
[09:39:11] <matto> (and licq for ICQ since everybuddy is rather flakey)
[09:39:53] <Nadir> but licq doesn't work with the latest changes of the ICQ protocol
[09:40:01] <Nadir> i.e. you can't send via server
[09:40:09] <matto> Nadir: hmmm .. it seems to be still working for me ...
[09:40:19] <matto> so gaim supports icq now?
[09:40:26] <Nadir> Anyway, GAIM is better than both of those. Trust me
[09:40:35] <Nadir> Make sure you get 0.48
[09:40:36] <matto> can you send files w/ gaim?
[09:40:42] <Nadir> not yet
[09:40:48] <matto> hmm.. then I guess it's not better :)
[09:40:52] <matto> since licq supports file xfer
[09:41:22] <matto> as for everybuddy.. well I am rather disappointed with it :(
[09:41:23] <Nadir> as I said, licq cannot connect to recent clients, when going via server
[09:41:34] <Nadir> everybuddy is very unstable.
[09:42:07] <matto> seems I had gaim 0.46 installed
[09:42:11] <matto> I'm upgrading to 0.48 now
[09:44:34] <Nadir> matto: gnome, kde or other ?
[09:47:43] <matto> vanilla ... I guess I could grab the gnome version
[09:52:48] <Nadir> what do you mean with vanilla ?
[09:53:19] <Dominus> damn, since yesterday, I tried to decode the U8 sounds. Josef Drexler (Aquamarine Dragon, the guy who figured out the format for the compressed music in U9 flexes) found that U8.exe has some reference to Sonarc.c but with the freely availlable version those sounds are still not decompressable. Seems they used some modified version for this. Just to say something totaly OT here :-) (sonarc: http://www.firstpr.com.au/audiocomp/lossless/son
[09:54:34] * Darke is still not sure, what _exactly_ is on topic here. <grin>
[09:55:18] <matto> Nadir: I meant gtk
[09:55:18] <matto> ok I got it working
[09:55:23] <Darke> Dominus: The url appears invalid.
[09:55:50] <Dominus> hm, works for me
[09:56:26] <matto> Nadir: cool.. I'll give GAIM a try for a while. I didn't know it support the other protocols
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[09:56:41] <matto> finally.. a reason to get rid of everybuddy
[09:57:09] <Nadir> matto: neither did I
[10:00:44] <Nadir> until I started having problems with Licq. I tried GnomeICU, ickle, everybuddy, and have now settled on gaim
[10:01:46] <matto> can I send you a test ICQ message?
[10:01:53] <Nadir> sure
[10:02:05] <Nadir> 53381790
[10:02:17] <Nadir> You must use the Oscar protocol
[10:02:24] <matto> oh?
[10:02:54] <Nadir> from gaim's changelog: * Oscar can send/receive offline messages in ICQ. Since the "real"
[10:02:54] <Nadir> ICQ protocol isn't working too well it's recommended that you
[10:02:54] <Nadir> use Oscar for ICQ.
[10:05:41] <matto> oscar, eh? .. interesting
[10:06:42] <Nadir> the new ICQ protocol is infact a modified version of Oscar (the original AIM protocol)
[10:06:57] <matto> I wonder if it stores your contact list remotely ... I like that feature
[10:07:06] <Nadir> don't think it does
[10:07:17] <Nadir> did licq do that ?
[10:07:37] <matto> no.. ICQ has never stored your contact list remotely
[10:08:21] <matto> that's one really nice thing about AIM ... every time I switch clients to try something new, my contact list is still there
[10:10:47] <Nadir> msn does that too
[10:10:58] <matto> right
[10:11:08] <Dominus> but it has a flaw
[10:11:19] <Dominus> (MS in its name :-)
[10:11:24] <matto> bahahahaha
[10:12:25] <matto> Dominus: my brother is in awe when I say that I talk to you
[10:12:31] <matto> I think he idolizes you or something :)
[10:12:42] <matto> and I'll explain why ...
[10:12:45] * Darke doesn't like any of the 'graphical' interfaces to the messenger clients. The best he's seen is CenterICQ, which is a console client.
[10:13:21] <Dominus> matto: please do, I don't see how anyone can idolize me
[10:13:21] <matto> it's because he is a huge Ultima fan and he spends a lot of time lurking on the exult message boards hehe ... for some reason he is afraid to post I guess. And you post a lot, so he recognizes you as a major presence in the exult community.
[10:13:40] <Dominus> hehe, rule of big mouth :-)
[10:13:44] <Darke> And his name is all over the FAQs/documentation...
[10:14:18] <Dominus> it's not in the docs
[10:14:46] <Dominus> and in the FAQ it's only in 6.2 :-)
[10:15:01] <matto> hehe
[10:15:31] <matto> Nadir: have you tried Evolution? I really like the latest version
[10:15:48] <Dominus> matto: though I feel flattered, tell your brother talking much doesn't make you a big presence (most of the time more of an annoyance :-))
[10:15:48] <matto> (mainly because it's stable hehe)
[10:15:55] <Darke> Dominus: Ahh! But is anyone else (other then Jeff IIRC) mentioned in the faq? <grin> Perhaps he's a documentation worshipper.
[10:16:04] <matto> Dominus: hehehe
[10:16:18] <Dominus> Darke: matto is mentioned :-)
[10:16:29] <matto> yes, my brother told me I was mentioned
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[10:16:33] <matto> he seemed very excited.. hehe
[10:16:40] <matto> "You know Dominus????"
[10:16:40] <Darke> Colourless is also.
[10:16:41] <matto> hehehe
[10:16:48] * Darke snickers.
[10:17:16] <Dominus> Joseph Morris and Fingolfin as well, and I think Willem is there too
[10:17:25] <Nadir> matto: I use Evo all the time
[10:17:36] * Wumpus wonders where the party is? :)
[10:17:52] <matto> Nadir: I've got it set up with imap+ssh tunneling to my isp ... I love it
[10:17:56] <Darke> Dominus: Ok, so who isn't mentioned in the FAQ then? <grin>
[10:18:09] <matto> wumpus!!!!!!
[10:18:11] <Dominus> Wumpus: the party is probably tomorrow or very later this day
[10:18:23] <Wumpus> dominus: -?
[10:18:38] <Nadir> Dominus: I am mentioned
[10:18:38] <matto> Dominus: do you mean the big release?
[10:18:52] * Wumpus was just wondering what all the`morris and fingolfin and william and colourless' etc was about :)
[10:18:57] <Wumpus> big release would be good too :)
[10:19:05] <Dominus> Darke: you aren't (obviously) :-) (maybe I should make it a rule to mention everybody somewhere in the FAQ)
[10:19:27] <Dominus> Wumpus, matto: Yeah, I meant the big release
[10:20:25] * Dominus is still trying to hunt down further infos on Sonarc
[10:21:21] <matto> arrgh.. Maledetti Philips
[10:21:55] <Dominus> no, he is not mentioned in the FAQ
[10:22:02] <Dominus> who's that
[10:22:09] <matto> hehe
[10:22:14] <matto> I was cursing a broken philips laserdisc player
[10:22:31] <matto> sorry, wrong window
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[10:25:03] <Nadir> wb
[10:25:19] * Darke wonders how he'd get mentioned in the FAQ... "6.3 There's this weird creature on irc that pretends he's a bunny, WTF is up with that?"
[10:25:33] <matto> haha
[10:25:33] * Darke bows. It's good to be back.
[10:25:40] <matto> and what would the answer be? something like: "A: Fluff"
[10:25:41] <matto> ?
[10:25:43] <matto> hehe
[10:26:03] <Darke> <snicker> Rather: "A: <fluff>"
[10:26:07] <Dominus> a cute bunny with sharp teeth, obviously
[10:26:09] <Nadir> Dominus: any source/algorithms on sonarc ?
[10:27:39] <Dominus> Nadir: nope, the program was shareware and the author dropped out of sight since '94, the only way to contact him would be snail mail (his old compuserve address doesn't work anymore, at least that's what the countless pages I visited said)
[10:28:29] <Dominus> I'm trying to find an older version than the one you can find at that one link above to see if it works with that
[10:29:59] <Wumpus> when you `journey onwards', the contents of the gamedat directory are all that is used, right? IE no other information from saves or elsewhere?
[10:30:17] * Wumpus has a bizarre `journey onwards' glitch, but its not actually in any of the saves per se....
[10:30:52] <Dominus> hm, I wonder, I had sme bizarre glitch and Fingolfin as well
[10:31:03] <Wumpus> hehe?
[10:31:59] <Dominus> It wouldn't journey onward, neither in SI nor in BG neither did a new game work but all of a sudeen it worked again without me doing anything
[10:32:12] <Wumpus> for me, i journey'd onwards, and instead of the screen being centred on the avatar, the avatar was far off beyond the left of the screen.... all seemed to work normally, except i couldnt' get out (of the building i was in) because i couldnt' see where i was going :|
[10:32:44] <Dominus> hm, the Pos 1 key is your friend
[10:32:51] <Wumpus> Pos 1?
[10:33:01] <Wumpus> just realoading the saved game i had made immediately before qutiting worked just fine
[10:33:31] <Dominus> hm, or home or center, don't know what it's called on the English keyboard
[10:33:49] <Wumpus> oh, that re-centres the screen dose it? well waddayaknow :)
[10:33:57] <Dominus> argh, all links to older versions of sonarc are dead
[10:34:04] <Wumpus> ooh interesting, i unpack the gamedat i packed up earlier, and it loads correctly.... d'ooohhhhh
[10:34:21] <Wumpus> (or well, good, but not helpful in terms of working otu what went wrong)
[10:39:57] * matto is wondering what Pos 1 key is
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[10:40:25] <Dominus> home or center
[10:40:35] <matto> ok
[10:45:34] <Wumpus> It's the Piece Of ... key :)
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[10:45:49] <Dominus> :-)
[10:45:52] <Wumpus> is there any way of reading the text of the conversations in the game?
[10:46:16] <Wumpus> IE some editor/viewer for the conversations file, or wherever that stuff is stored?
[10:46:24] <Dominus> yes, but no easy way
[10:46:34] <Dominus> all I can say is USECODE
[10:46:43] <Wumpus> its actually in the usecode? :(
[10:46:55] * Darke laughs somewhat insanely.
[10:46:57] * Wumpus doesn't paticulary care about the logic of when you can do what, just about the text for a given person
[10:47:21] <Dominus> as I said it's not easy
[10:47:26] <Wumpus> damn :(
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[10:53:52] <matto|gaim> hehe.. well what do you know? gaim and IRC
[10:53:57] <matto|gaim> :-D
[10:54:10] <Dominus> he
[10:54:34] <matto|gaim> you still using windows dominus? hehe
[10:55:02] <Dominus> yep!
[10:55:26] <matto|gaim> hmm this client is rather unpowerful
[10:55:54] <matto> but it's kind of cool that it works at all
[10:56:03] <matto> I suppose if someone wanted just 1 program.. gaim might be a nice one
[10:56:06] * Darke nods. Indeed, rather cool.
[10:57:07] <Dominus> that's the reason I use Trillian - don't want to bother with three programs (irc,icq,aim)
[10:59:07] <matto> indeed
[10:59:12] <matto> I can handle two programs.. (IM and IRC)
[10:59:30] * Wumpus uses just icq and is happy :)
[11:01:09] * matto notes that wumpus also uses ircII
[11:02:03] <matto> I have fond memories of using ircii
[11:04:17] <Dominus> ok, got to go now. see you later
[11:04:25] <-- Dominus has left IRC ("got to play Exult now")
[11:22:11] * Wumpus goes to see if spark's ass has grown any bigger
[11:22:44] <Wumpus> rath-?
[11:22:53] <Wumpus> (rath-? <-- wrong window)
[11:23:09] * Darke doesn't want to know, and doesn't _care_ to know, thanks. <grin>
[11:25:13] <Wumpus> it really has gotten boring :(
[11:25:38] <Darke> Wumpus: YAY! Perhaps it'll stop being posted to then? Maybe? <grin>
[11:26:01] <Wumpus> bah 'sif
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[11:29:52] * matto might have to do a phantom-posting to keep the thread alive
[11:32:42] * Darke wishes he could call lightning bolts down from the sky on command. He has a matto that wants to be experience a 'shocking' revelation. <grin>
[11:35:49] <Wumpus> you want a `summon reaper' spell? :)
[11:36:23] <Wumpus> not reaper
[11:36:56] <Wumpus> those tree things that shoot lightning bolts
[11:37:04] * Wumpus notes that they don't apepar to be in the BG bestiary
[11:37:30] <Darke> Nah, I just want to be able to shoot 'lightning bolts'. <grin>
[11:37:35] * matto opens his clenched fist toward Darke. Balls of flame come gushing out. The inferno rages toward the frightened little bunny rabbit. Will Darke's goose finally be cooked?
[11:37:37] <Wumpus> oh i did mean reaper, the picture just looks differet
[11:38:00] * Wumpus throws his gemmed shield to darke
[11:38:28] <Wumpus> (3 diamond shield, even)
[11:38:40] <Darke> 3 diamond shield?
[11:38:49] <Wumpus> D2 reference ;-p
[11:38:56] <Wumpus> (strong magic resistance :P)
[11:39:25] * matto multi-shots Wumpus with his Carrion Song
[11:39:27] <Darke> Yes, but a 3 diamond shield is about 75% magic resistance for all magics. What use has that for throwing lightning bolts? <grin>
[11:39:38] <Wumpus> lightning is magic, no? :P
[11:39:43] <Wumpus> nono
[11:39:48] <Wumpus> matto was casting fireballs at you
[11:39:51] <matto> speaking of D2, I'd better log in and refresh my characters hehe
[11:40:06] <Wumpus> hehe
[11:40:15] <matto> they might very well be gone by now
[11:40:18] * Wumpus 's single player mage made Matriarch recently, and D2 got promptly uninstalled
[11:40:20] * Darke snickers, he didn't notice matto. <grin>
[11:40:39] <matto> that's because the fire was too fast
[11:40:48] <Wumpus> heh :)
[11:40:51] <Wumpus> carrion song?
[11:40:53] * matto picks up the charred, smoking rabbit corpse and sniffs. Mmmmm... cooked meat!
[11:41:18] * matto digs in with his teeth, tearing a big piece of flesh off the hind quarters. "Good food!" he exclaims, hungrily.
[11:41:19] <Darke> I haven't got a D2 character past the end of nightmare level. It gets boring after 30th level.
[11:41:32] <matto> I have a level 75 barb and a level 65 amazon or so
[11:41:36] <matto> I haven't played for .. quite some time :)
[11:41:41] <matto> I quit before D2 exp
[11:41:42] * Wumpus 's sorc was level 70 when she retired
[11:41:54] <Wumpus> hehe d2x is cool
[11:41:54] * Darke hops up behind matto and taps a paw on his shoulder. "Umm... don't rabbits have beef in them?"
[11:42:04] * Darke has got d2x.
[11:42:25] <matto> if I was in windows right now, I might actually login
[11:42:32] <matto> maybe I'll install D2 on the other box
[11:42:36] <matto> Uptime: 3 days, 9:29
[11:42:45] <Darke> Talk about not bothering with play balance. You get more experience in act 5 of the previous level then you get in acts 1 and possibly 2 of the next level.
[11:43:04] <Wumpus> hehe yeah
[11:43:11] <Wumpus> but act 5 is annoying for the most part
[11:43:18] <Wumpus> those teleporting things ... :|
[11:43:48] <matto> I have a bunch of mules with junk on them
[11:44:02] <matto> when I realized D2exp would make all my goodies obsolete, I gave up
[11:44:03] * Wumpus has a bunch of characters carrying miscellaneous cool stuff
[11:44:13] <matto> I have one guy that has nothing but boots
[11:44:16] <Darke> Wumpus: Not really, just the first waypoint or two has those annoying teleport things.
[11:44:19] <Wumpus> hehe matto
[11:44:26] <Wumpus> darke- huh? they appear all throughout
[11:44:33] <Wumpus> they're in all the above ground areas except the first
[11:44:33] * Darke started collecting sets then didn't bother.
[11:44:39] <matto> he has a set of tearhaunch (the funniest name in the game!)
[11:44:43] * Wumpus has a character collecting set pieces
[11:44:48] <matto> hehe
[11:44:53] <matto> my necro has full sigons
[11:44:56] <Darke> Wumpus: Hmm... looks like my memory is broken. <grin> Thanks.
[11:44:59] <matto> too bad they're not that great
[11:45:09] <Wumpus> darke- :)
[11:45:37] <Darke> The sets have been rather improved if you get a couple of pieces, but they really aren't 'keepers' in the later game.
[11:45:38] <Wumpus> matto- bah, 'sif the usefulness matters... my character just collects pretty much anything :) got quite a lot of uniques now too, including some useless stuff
[11:45:45] <Wumpus> hehe, i never realised uniques had a chance of being ethereal
[11:46:18] <Darke> Wumpus: One of my more... annoying discoveries. I haven't played D2X in months though.
[11:46:36] <Wumpus> darke- the ethereal uniques you mena? hehe
[11:46:44] * Darke nods.
[11:47:14] * Wumpus 's sorc is wearing two uniques... unique io staff and unique exceptional padded leather
[11:47:43] * Wumpus wants to conjure a SoF :P
[11:47:46] <Wumpus> SoJ even
[11:49:02] <Darke> SoJ? I never found much use for them, unless I was playing an Amazon at the time.
[11:49:15] <Wumpus> +1 all skills on a ring? :P
[11:49:33] * matto gambled a few SoJ's
[11:49:39] <matto> I heard they broke gambling
[11:49:49] <Wumpus> `broke' ?
[11:49:56] <matto> ie, made it so you couldn't gamble stones anymore
[11:50:04] <Wumpus> you still *can*
[11:50:08] <Darke> Yep. But if you're a sorceress using only 3 or 4 skills, how is that much of a benefit? You're better off with something that gives you some resistances or something.
[11:50:17] <Wumpus> its just much less likely; there are more different unique rings, and they no longer drop in a certain order
[11:50:25] <matto> I see
[11:50:34] <matto> the stone is nice because it boosts your mana
[11:50:58] <Wumpus> darke- hmm, i usually use 6 or 7 skills (4 at once)...
[11:51:05] <Wumpus> bah, 'sif you need mana
[11:51:08] <matto> the only problem is .. it's a ring .. and it's more important to use dual leech rings if you have 'em
[11:51:11] * Wumpus is drowning in mana :-)
[11:51:18] <matto> my barb needs mana
[11:51:22] <matto> I heard they broke the barb too
[11:51:24] <matto> and the amazon
[11:51:25] * Darke nods to matto, there is that in the expansion.
[11:51:25] <Wumpus> bah, sorc doesn't benefit from leech
[11:51:34] <Wumpus> nah, barb seems pretty cool to me
[11:51:40] <matto> basically all of the strategy I used to build my chars was destroyed in d2exp!!!
[11:51:47] <matto> they nerfed whirlwind, nerfed multishot.. nerfed everything!
[11:52:22] <Darke> matto: Appart from the fact that whirlwind was overpowered to start with? <grin> Or that the barb is just overpowered in the early game?
[11:52:28] * Wumpus notes that his sorc only spent her second point on fire skills at about level 60 :)
[11:52:37] <matto> Darke: it still takes time to build up a char like that
[11:52:59] <matto> overpowered or not, that was how the game was designed ... people (like me) put time into it under the assumption that that was how it was going to be
[11:53:40] <matto> oh yeah.. I heard they nerfed iceblink too.. grrr
[11:53:40] <Wumpus> sorc is overpowered ;-p
[11:53:47] <Wumpus> iceblink?
[11:53:48] <matto> I used to own w/ iceblink & whirlwind
[11:53:57] <matto> yeah... unique splint mail that froze enemies for seconds upon contact
[11:54:10] <Wumpus> ah, mm, that'd be nice
[11:54:17] <matto> apparently it was too nice
[11:54:47] <Darke> Wumpus: In what way? <grin> The only spell I can think of that stands out was the one that knocked off a third of the enemies hps.
[11:55:00] <matto> it's nice that blizzard is striving for balance but ... I can't get that time back now.
[11:55:00] <Wumpus> darke- a quarter; nah, that spell sucks
[11:55:04] * Wumpus never used it at all
[11:55:07] <Wumpus> (mm.. static field
[11:55:11] <Darke> (well actually 25%, there was a bug in the display from v1.0 to v1.6)
[11:55:31] <Wumpus> darke- the cookie cutter is cool, firewall is reputedly ridiculously powerful...
[11:55:36] <Wumpus> cookie cutter -> Frozen Orb
[11:55:56] <Wumpus> it was *much* easier playing with my sorc than the time my paladin had had, in any case
[11:56:11] <Darke> Wumpus: I've only played a sorceress in the original. <grin> I played an amazon through the expansion and it was just insanely easy.
[11:56:26] <Wumpus> mass desruction is just so much easier with the sorc, and she can still own bosses without too much difficulty
[11:56:35] <Wumpus> hehe yeah, i've heard the amazon is great
[11:56:42] <matto> amazon owns :)
[11:56:53] * Wumpus 's amazon is a glorious level 5 :P
[11:57:11] <Darke> The irony is, that my favourite characters, bowazon and fire-sorceress, were almost useless in the original, but are overpowered in the expansion.
[11:57:22] <matto> huh?
[11:57:29] <Wumpus> rath- yah, thats what i was thinking :)
[11:57:31] <matto> bow-using amazon RULED in the original!
[11:57:34] <Wumpus> grr, stupid windows
[11:57:40] <matto> and I have the character to prove it :)
[11:57:55] * Wumpus not convinced by the fire sorc... what does she have in the way of mass destruction?
[11:57:57] <Darke> matto: Bow damage was broken severely for the first 6 months or so.
[11:58:12] <matto> I had a powerful bow
[11:58:17] <Wumpus> thunder storm + frozen orb = mmmmmm death
[11:58:18] <Darke> Fire sorceresses had to contend with massive lag when they tried to use spells.
[11:58:41] <Darke> (and the other people playing had to contend with it as well. Consistantly 1fps anyone?)
[11:59:11] <Wumpus> :P
[11:59:14] * Wumpus used to low FPS :P
[11:59:17] * Wumpus pats box
[11:59:22] <matto> haha
[11:59:32] <matto> a low FPS performing box... how quaint :)
[11:59:35] <Darke> They broke the 'explosion' damage on the arrows for two patches.
[11:59:49] <Wumpus> it's massively due for an upgrade :) as soon as i get home from my holiday
[12:00:02] <matto> those kt266a chipsets look nice
[12:00:09] * Darke grins at Wumpus.
[12:00:26] <Wumpus> rath- mhmm, showrun 1 ... are you doing any funny stuff with stdin/stderr there?
[12:00:30] <Wumpus> dammit
[12:00:39] <Wumpus> sorry 'bout wrong windows... not paying attention to my status bar
[12:01:29] * Darke snickers and wishes Wumpus was mavving something more interesting. <grin>
[12:01:43] <Wumpus> mavving?
[12:04:30] <Darke> Wumpus: Typing something to {someone, somewhere} that you thought was going to another person.
[12:04:43] <Wumpus> ahh
[12:05:10] <Darke> Normally referenced in muds when you mean to whisper to one person, but typo and accidentally talk to the whole room.
[12:05:17] <Wumpus> hehe :-)
[12:10:20] * Darke screws his chair back together, after it spontaneously disintegrates on him.
[12:10:37] * Wumpus hides the wand of disintegration behind his back
[12:11:32] <Darke> Ahh, found a 'defintion': Mav: To say aloud something meant to be whispered. By extention, to say aloud something meant to be paged, or to whisper or page to the wrong person. Maving is a potential source of embarrassment or awkwardness. The name derives from a character in the early days of M*s who was chronically prone to this particular faux pas.
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[12:36:37] <Wumpus> i think i'll make an attempt to get up at a reasonably early hour tomorrow
[12:36:45] <Wumpus> g'night all
[12:36:55] <Darke> Night! <bow>
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[12:43:26] * Colourless scratches his head
[12:43:49] <Colourless> something is wrong here, but I can't figure it out....
[12:44:00] * Darke greetingsbows. "Hello. You're looking rather puzzled."
[12:44:47] <Colourless> ?logs
[12:44:47] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/exultlog.php3
[12:45:04] <Colourless> lets see if I can't work out what's going on :-)
[12:45:43] <Darke> Sorry, it's just not possible to work out what's going on around here. <grin> At least not when I'm around here. <innocentwiggle>
[12:46:10] <Colourless> exultbot, why don't you log mode changes???!!!!!
[12:46:17] <Colourless> it was you wasn't it :-)
[12:47:40] * Darke looks _completely_ innocent. "What was me?"
[12:47:56] <Colourless> i'm thinking that no one else would give matto ops :-)
[12:48:16] * Darke is actually thinking 'who as me' would be better grammer...
[12:48:28] <Darke> Colourless: I didn't give matto ops.
[12:48:40] <Colourless> yeah, he gave it to himself :-)
[12:48:56] <Colourless> and he gave it to you ;-)
[12:49:08] * Darke looks even more innocent, if that is possible.
[12:49:45] <Colourless> now since that is settled. what is up with this topic.... don't *do* Voodoo..... BAH, i very much do Voodoo.... but a different type :-)
[12:50:39] <Darke> The Voodoo memory manager. <grin> I noticed it was still in the credits, just not in the game.
[12:51:59] <Colourless> yeah it is. we can't really remove that :-)
[12:52:28] <Darke> I know. That's why the /topic though. <grin>
[12:53:14] <matto> Colourless: hehe... what do you mean no one would give me ops? :)
[12:53:47] <matto> actually the topic had been cleared somehow ..
[12:53:56] <Colourless> so the logs say
[12:53:59] <matto> and I was getting anxious without seeing that "<fluff>" in the topic
[12:54:09] <matto> so I got Darke ops so he could set the topic hehe
[12:54:09] <Colourless> hehe
[12:54:46] * Darke is pondering his next 'creative' topic.
[12:56:23] <matto> ok.. time for me to go to bed
[12:56:28] <matto> it's 5:56 AM again.. ARRGH
[12:56:29] * matto slaps himself
[12:56:34] * Darke bows. "Night!" <grin>
[12:56:36] <Colourless> :-)
[12:56:42] <Colourless> cya
[12:56:52] <matto> have fun :)
[12:56:55] * matto is away: I'm busy
[12:57:24] * Darke might have fun, once he finishes looking through the job websites.
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[13:00:37] * Darke ReHi's
[15:17:51] <Colourless> i'm going
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[16:28:10] * Darke happybounces. Code works. "jne(and(push(), push()))". Night exultbot!
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[17:48:59] <Dominus> hi
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[21:59:11] <SB-X> ?date
[21:59:11] <exultbot> It is now Wed Nov 28 21:59:11 2001 (GMT).
[21:59:19] <wjp> hi
[21:59:24] <SB-X> hi
[22:00:01] <SB-X> Darke/Sharptooth is always gone and I can't ask him anything :-)
[22:00:17] <wjp> he is? he seems to be here a lot lately
[22:00:31] <SB-X> i mean gone when im in, what with him being on the other side of the planet
[22:00:51] <SB-X> is exult beta released?
[22:00:54] <wjp> no, not yet
[22:01:13] <wjp> although the current CVS will most likely be the beta in about 12 hours
[22:02:07] <SB-X> hmm cool
[22:02:30] * SB-X was going to ask Darke if decompiled usecode will just look like formatted ucassembly. :-)
[22:02:57] <wjp> heh, I hope not :-)
[22:06:09] <wjp> I have to go
[22:06:10] <wjp> bye
[22:06:12] <SB-X> bye
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[22:06:49] <SB-X> matto!!!
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[22:19:58] <Jammet> Meow =)
[22:20:09] <Jammet> Aww, where's SharpToothie...
[22:22:11] <SB-X> :-(
[22:22:42] <Jammet> =) Hej SB-X ..
[22:22:45] * Jammet purrs softly.
[22:22:59] <Jammet> Why, you .. a sad face! Banana man to the rescue!
[22:23:11] * Jammet sticks a banana vertically into SB-X's mouth so he smiles.
[22:23:28] <SB-X> you mean horizontally?
[22:23:40] <Jammet> Ah, yes.
[22:23:42] <SB-X> oh wait
[22:23:43] <Jammet> Sorry,...
[22:23:50] <SB-X> :-) <- vertical smile
[22:23:51] <SB-X> heh
[22:24:01] * Jammet bursts into giggles! =)
[22:24:03] <SB-X> ^_^
[22:24:10] <Jammet> =) I'll get me something nice to eat now.
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[23:00:24] <Wumpus> ~rgh
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