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[00:19:57] <chimera|work> wjp! =]
[00:20:28] <wjp> hey Matt
[00:20:37] <chimera|work> I finished book this morning
[00:20:40] <chimera|work> err book 4
[00:20:43] <wjp> hehe :-)
[00:20:51] <chimera|work> how many are there? 6 of them?
[00:20:54] <wjp> two more to go
[00:20:57] <wjp> yes, 6 so far
[00:21:35] <chimera|work> I have book 5
[00:21:39] <chimera|work> but I have not purchased book 6
[00:21:45] <chimera|work> it's getting expensive
[00:21:47] <wjp> Soul of the Fire right?
[00:21:54] <chimera|work> I can't ermember the name
[00:22:01] <wjp> let's see...
[00:22:18] <wjp> Wizard's First Rule, Stone of Tears, Blood of the Fold, Temple of the Winds, Soul of the Fire, Faith of the Fallen
[00:22:46] <chimera|work> yep that's it
[00:22:55] <chimera|work> according to my friend, books 5 and 6 both rule
[00:23:00] <wjp> they do
[00:23:10] <chimera|work> I was rather.. shocked... at book 4
[00:23:20] <wjp> shocked? which way?
[00:25:43] <wjp> let's see... Temple of the Winds... oh, right, the pestilence
[00:27:12] <chimera|work> one moment ..
[00:27:14] <chimera|work> (at work)
[00:45:53] <chimera|work> ok back
[00:45:57] <chimera|work> sorry, I was being consulted
[00:46:03] <chimera|work> and the conversation simply wouldn't end! =]
[00:46:14] <chimera|work> yes shocked!
[00:46:14] <wjp> np, work comes first :-)
[00:46:27] <chimera|work> I was shocked at the scene where Kahlan has sex with Richard when she thinks it's Drefan
[00:46:33] <chimera|work> I found it _very_ disturbing
[00:46:39] <wjp> oh right... that scene...
[00:46:42] <chimera|work> I was sad that Terry chose to add that scene
[00:47:26] <chimera|work> he turned Kahlan into a whore
[00:47:31] <chimera|work> I hated that
[00:47:40] <wjp> yes... I agree
[00:47:44] <chimera|work> she wouldn't have done that, it wasn't who she is
[00:48:06] <chimera|work> she loved Richard too much to just all of the sudden decide to satisfy her lusts
[00:49:11] <wjp> yes, he should've come up with something else
[00:49:17] <chimera|work> yes
[00:49:22] <chimera|work> he should have found some other way for her to betray him
[00:50:03] <chimera|work> Plus that scene was far too explicit. If I wanted to read porn, I'd go to a porn site. I don't want to read it in non-porn books. hehe
[00:50:32] <wjp> yes, it was a bit graphic, wasn't it?
[00:50:38] <chimera|work> yeah!
[00:51:00] <chimera|work> I am embarrassed now that I told my brother that I enjoyed the series. Because now if he reads it...
[00:51:14] <wjp> how old is he?
[00:51:16] <chimera|work> he will get to that part and think "What the heck?? Matt said he loved these books!"
[00:51:26] <chimera|work> hehe... he's 22 I think...
[00:51:49] <chimera|work> I would just be ashamed if he read it.. ashamed of what he would think of me for promoting them
[00:52:00] <chimera|work> but I didn't know about that scene when I told him
[00:52:16] <wjp> would you still recommend them now?
[00:52:42] * chimera|work wrings his hands
[00:52:48] <chimera|work> I don't know
[00:53:03] <chimera|work> he would be very disappointed in me if I recommended them to me and he came to that scene
[00:53:10] <chimera|work> (not to mention the scene with Nathan and Clarissa hehe)
[00:53:28] <wjp> Nathan and Clarissa?
[00:53:30] <wjp> oh
[00:53:37] <wjp> that scene
[00:53:49] <wjp> the murder you mean?
[00:53:50] <chimera|work> yes.. it talked about him kissing her nipples with his lips.. I consider that flat-out porn, no question about it
[00:53:53] <chimera|work> no the sex scene
[00:54:24] <wjp> who was Clarissa then?
[00:55:34] <chimera|work> she's the girl he rescued from that town that got destroyed by the Imperial Order.. the girl who thought she was ugly.. he bought her fancy dresses
[00:55:40] <chimera|work> she's the one who went and got the book
[00:55:54] <wjp> oh right
[00:56:32] <wjp> Nathan, not Drefan
[00:56:41] <wjp> I must be getting old... my memory's slipping :-)
[00:56:52] <chimera|work> =]
[00:56:57] <chimera|work> Anyway...
[00:57:02] <chimera|work> I still really like the story <grin>
[00:57:15] <chimera|work> I just feel it's unfortunate that he is so pre-occupied with sex and that he turned Kahlan into a whore
[00:57:56] <chimera|work> just by reading his writing.. I'd say in real life Terry Goodkind is probably a lot like Drefan =]
[00:57:57] <wjp> I think it gets better in 5 and 6
[00:58:14] <wjp> you might just be right :-)
[00:58:38] <wjp> I don't remember any 'graphic' scenes from the last two
[00:59:27] <chimera|work> that's good
[01:00:07] <chimera|work> then again, maybe Terry is like Richard =]
[01:00:13] <chimera|work> I kind of doubt it though
[01:02:54] <wjp> yeah, don't think so either
[01:03:52] <chimera|work> <grin>
[01:11:47] <chimera|work> I will probably start reading book 5 tonight anyway =]
[01:12:14] <chimera|work> I hope Kahlan touches some more people with her power.. that's the coolest thing ever! =]
[01:12:31] <wjp> hehe :-)
[01:12:52] <chimera|work> I loved when she touched Orsk
[01:12:56] <chimera|work> when she was about to die
[01:13:04] <chimera|work> and he started cracking skulls left and right to save her
[01:13:05] <chimera|work> that ruled!!
[01:13:20] <wjp> :-)
[01:13:30] <chimera|work> that's my favorite part of these books
[01:13:39] <chimera|work> Kahlan... she's my favorite!
[01:13:48] <chimera|work> that's why I was so mad about what Terry made her do!
[01:13:52] <chimera|work> he had no right!! hehehe
[01:14:38] <wjp> let's do a rewrite :-)
[01:15:26] <chimera|work> yeah!!!!
[01:15:38] <chimera|work> you know... you were probably kidding.. but I was seriously considering re-writing that scene =]
[01:15:53] <chimera|work> just to set things right =]
[01:16:52] <chimera|work> but unfortunately in order to that, I'd have to come up with another way for her to betray him
[01:19:06] <wjp> hmm
[01:19:44] <chimera|work> I am pretty good at imitating an author's style of writing after I've read his books for a while, so I could probably come up wtih something Goodkind'ish =]
[01:20:48] <chimera|work> Kahlan betrayed richard when she turned him over to the Sisters of the Light and had him wear the collar
[01:20:59] <chimera|work> something like that would work out better =]
[01:22:39] <wjp> hmm... dunno... he already forgave he for that
[01:22:48] <chimera|work> =]
[01:23:10] <chimera|work> ok I've got it
[01:23:23] <chimera|work> the deed can remain the same
[01:23:28] <chimera|work> but the motives will be different
[01:24:24] <chimera|work> Kahlan didn't do it for her own pleasures, she did it because a) it wasn't working, the winds weren't coming [this is partially true] or b) because Shota or someone told her she had to
[01:24:35] <chimera|work> that way Richard would still feel betrayed, but she wouldn't be so much of a whore
[01:25:31] <wjp> and you could make the description a lot kinder
[01:25:37] <wjp> less explicit
[01:27:31] <chimera|work> I was also sad that Kahlan had sex before she got married (in this world)
[01:27:38] <chimera|work> at first I thought it was with Drefan and it made me sick
[01:27:45] <chimera|work> once I found out it was Richard, I still felt sick
[01:28:03] <chimera|work> I could tell Terry wanted people to think "Oh it was with Richard, no problem" but...
[01:28:30] <chimera|work> when she was about to get raped in book 2 or whatever it was ... I was like "No! Kahlan can't get raped!! NOOO!!!" and she narrowly escaped
[01:28:34] <chimera|work> so I thought she had some kind of protection
[01:28:38] <chimera|work> but instead... bah!!!
[01:31:58] <wjp> I should go to bed
[01:32:16] <wjp> enjoy book 5 :-)
[01:32:16] <chimera|work> =]
[01:32:19] <wjp> see you later
[01:32:22] <chimera|work> ok bye!
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