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[07:41:09] <Fl00der> good morning
[08:05:08] <Fl00der> I use Digital Music on Ultima 7 BG Exult ....
[08:05:18] <Fl00der> and I have a question about it...
[08:06:40] <Fl00der> when I hear like Rule britannia. music volume is OK....but when I hear Stones, music volume is really low...I hardly hear it at all and must raise my speaaker volume
[08:06:43] <Fl00der> :S
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[08:49:28] <Fl00der> yo
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[09:24:22] <servus> Hi?
[09:24:32] <servus> (How can he expect an answer?)
[09:31:55] * SB-X shrugs.
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[11:57:51] <wjp|busy> hi
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[11:58:14] <Fl00der> hello
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[12:07:47] <curiousis> allo allo
[12:07:51] <Fl00der> hi
[12:09:12] <Fl00der> this place is now like Skara brae in ultima 7 BG :)
[12:10:13] <curiousis> Minus swank skeleton attacks
[12:10:23] <Fl00der> hehe. true
[12:11:43] <Fl00der> it's too bad that Stealing doesn't work 100 % yet in U7 :-I
[12:12:49] <curiousis> Well there is more to Ultima then raping pillaging and stealing from small children. There is some crazy Guardian sub-plot or something isn't there?
[12:13:20] <Fl00der> yes...it's the main quest to stop guardian :P
[12:13:42] <Fl00der> but I don't steal from childrens ;)
[12:13:48] <Fl00der> I steal rich people :P
[12:14:47] <curiousis> Yeah those damned children don't amass much in the way of riches for me to yoink
[12:15:12] <Fl00der> heh :)
[12:15:16] <wjp|busy> you steal rich people? isn't that kidnapping?
[12:15:40] <wjp|busy> ;-)
[12:15:41] <Fl00der> I said wrong...
[12:15:44] <Fl00der> I meant
[12:15:49] <Fl00der> I steal FROM rich people
[12:15:51] <Fl00der> :)
[12:16:33] <Fl00der> hmm
[12:16:47] <Fl00der> can anyone say how can I beat Lord British ?
[12:20:28] <curiousis> well you could whip a gold plaque at his head, slice n'dice with the black sword. Or my personal favourite use Exult Studio to turn him into a horse
[12:20:46] <Fl00der> hehe
[12:21:33] <Fl00der> hmm
[12:21:56] <curiousis> WJP, I was wondering if you could answer an Exult Studio question or two
[12:22:26] <Fl00der> I have question also
[12:22:36] <Fl00der> how I can open world map in studio ?
[12:23:33] <curiousis> what do you mean?
[12:23:52] <Fl00der> well....
[12:24:06] <Fl00der> what can I do with exult studio ? make new npc, new island ?
[12:24:13] <Fl00der> right ?
[12:24:13] <Fl00der> :P
[12:24:45] <Fl00der> when I open exult studio....
[12:24:51] <Fl00der> can I see whole world ?
[12:24:54] <Fl00der> somehow
[12:25:26] <Fl00der> I need to see britannia but can't see it :P
[12:26:03] <curiousis> in game if you press ctrl-alt-T in game you can see whole map
[12:26:11] <Fl00der> arf
[12:26:15] <Fl00der> I mean in exult studio
[12:26:16] <Fl00der> :P
[12:26:17] <Fl00der> you see
[12:26:23] <Fl00der> example
[12:26:30] <Fl00der> how can I turn lord to horse ?
[12:28:07] <Fl00der> oh well it's not important :P
[12:28:13] <Fl00der> arf
[12:28:17] <Fl00der> I go away. must go
[12:28:19] <Fl00der> cya
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[12:28:46] <wjp|busy> curiousis: asking never hurts :-)
[12:28:55] <wjp|busy> I can't guarantee that I can answer them, though :-)
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[12:31:17] <curiousisis> sorry about that
[12:31:38] <curiousisis> Look under sprites.vga for the Ultima 7 map.
[12:32:11] <wjp|busy> I think fl00der meant a snapshot of the current map; those in the datafiles are static
[12:32:40] <wjp|busy> not a bad idea for a feature request
[12:34:07] <curiousisis> Alright, question 1: When I try to set the location for an NPC's schedule using "click" when I click on the map it doesn't set the X,Y,Z co-ordinates. bug?
[12:35:28] <curiousisis> question 2: What's the "ident" of an NPC?
[12:36:33] <wjp|busy> first sounds like a bug, yes
[12:36:40] <wjp|busy> second.. no idea
[12:37:10] <wjp|busy> probably something used by usecode at times, but I'd have to check
[12:37:52] <curiousisis> I'm trying to write section 7 of the Exult Studio FAQ. Lots of questions and stuff I don't know yet. I do have a fun pic of 7 Lord Britishes dancing in the throne room to include though
[12:38:10] <curiousisis> And a pic of the Avatar as a tentacle
[12:45:03] <wjp|busy> :-)
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[12:47:24] <curiousisis> hehe
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[13:26:08] <Colourless> hi
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[15:00:20] <Fl00der> hi cahaan
[15:00:55] <Cahaan> hey Fl00der :)
[15:00:55] <Fl00der> does anyone know how I turn SFX volume lower or/and music volume higher on Ultima 7 BG Exult 1.1.beta1 ?
[15:01:08] <Fl00der> it's 6 PM. :P
[15:01:13] <Fl00der> where do you live ?:P
[15:01:18] <Cahaan> I have the 1.0 :{
[15:01:22] <Fl00der> 18.00 here :P
[15:01:40] <Fl00der> hmm
[15:01:41] <Cahaan> 17.00 here
[15:01:44] <Cahaan> :D
[15:01:45] <Fl00der> does anyone know how I turn SFX volume lower or/and music volume higher on Ultima 7 BG Exult 1.1.beta1 ?
[15:01:48] <Fl00der> :)
[15:02:01] <Fl00der> im playing U7....
[15:02:10] <Fl00der> but I don't like that SFX volume is so high
[15:02:14] <Fl00der> and music volume is so low
[15:02:21] <Fl00der> how can I change volume ?
[15:02:23] <Fl00der> :P
[15:03:05] <Cahaan> there isn't a volume option in the "options" pannel ?
[15:03:15] <Colourless> no there's not
[15:03:49] <Colourless> you need to asjust the volumes using your operating system's/sound card's volume controls
[15:04:09] <Fl00der> well I need to know what adjust SFX in game and what music
[15:04:12] <Fl00der> I use digitalmusic
[15:04:26] <Fl00der> ah
[15:04:27] <Fl00der> I got it
[15:04:28] <Colourless> hmmm. that could be a problem
[15:04:33] <Fl00der> Midi = sfx volume :)
[15:04:44] <Fl00der> and it doesnt affect to music because I use digital
[15:04:47] <Fl00der> weeee
[15:04:53] <Fl00der> I solved my problem :)
[15:05:09] <Colourless> odd. you *shouldn't* be using midi sfx, unless you compiled exult yourself
[15:05:17] <Fl00der> :P
[15:05:19] <Fl00der> really ?
[15:05:28] <Fl00der> erh ?
[15:05:45] <Fl00der> what do you mean ?
[15:05:48] <wjp|busy> Colourless: maybe the other way around? midi is played by sfx?
[15:06:10] <wjp|busy> (i.e., some midi emulation or oggs)
[15:06:12] <Fl00der> music is also midi unless I use digital
[15:06:24] <Fl00der> but now I do use digital
[15:06:41] <Fl00der> and midi volume means sfx volume only now
[15:06:43] <Fl00der> :)
[15:08:05] <Fl00der> pfffft
[15:10:14] <Fl00der> hmmm
[15:10:15] <Fl00der> weird
[15:10:23] <Fl00der> midi is not sfx
[15:10:29] <Fl00der> :S
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[15:19:27] <Fl00der> now starts Conan O' Brian -->
[15:19:32] <Fl00der> and it's coffee time -->
[15:19:34] <Fl00der> :)
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[16:30:10] <curiousis> ohh.. I found a bug! I got Lord British to walk through walls
[16:30:41] <wjp> was the wall still intact afterwards? :-)
[16:31:15] <curiousis> Well.. the wall talked in a really poor accent afterwards, but it was mostly unscathed
[16:31:53] <curiousis> It seems NPCs that are set to sleep will walk right through a wall to get to bed, if the bed is beside the wall
[16:32:07] <wjp> :-)
[16:32:16] <wjp> interesting
[16:32:35] <wjp> can you walk through that specific wall too, or only those npcs?
[16:32:40] <curiousis> I set LB to sleep while he was sitting on the throne and he walked through the wall to sleep in the children's bed. I woke him up and he was back on the other side
[16:33:10] <curiousis> Ohh and Exult crashes if I try to get in bed with Lord British
[16:33:32] <wjp> even when you're a female avatar? ;-)
[16:33:40] <wjp> which version of exult is this with, btw?
[16:33:50] <curiousis> Latest snapshot
[16:35:23] <curiousis> hmm.. maybe my save game is just really unstable from all the character editing I've been doing to write part 7
[16:35:40] <curiousis> new game and I'll try to sleep with LB again
[16:35:53] <wjp> a real crash is always interesting, though
[16:36:52] <Fl00der> hello
[16:38:48] <curiousis> yup.. crashes consistently... Sleeping with Lord British causes unexpectd results
[16:39:02] <Fl00der> don't sleep then :P
[16:39:10] <wjp> could you submit bug reports for both this and the walking through walls?
[16:39:37] <curiousis> I imagine the crash is caused by sleeping with LB after he walked through a wall but I still need to test it
[16:40:44] <curiousis> no, walking through walls has nothing to do with it
[17:02:37] <Fl00der> dang.....this place is again like Skara Brae in U7 BG :P
[17:02:48] <Fl00der> minus monsters ... :P
[17:03:02] <curiousis> SKELETON!
[17:03:08] <Fl00der> hehe
[17:03:16] <Fl00der> What is easiest Ultima to play through ?
[17:03:26] <Fl00der> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 ?
[17:03:32] <curiousis> time wise, 1. 'Takes about 6 hours
[17:03:55] <Fl00der> and others takes months ? :)
[17:04:02] <Fl00der> well U9 was pretty easy :P
[17:04:15] <curiousis> longest to play would probably be Ultima 5 or 9
[17:04:22] <curiousis> week or so if you played hard
[17:04:25] <Fl00der> longest 9 ?
[17:04:28] <Fl00der> hmmm
[17:04:36] <Fl00der> well it took time to finish 9 :)
[17:04:48] <Fl00der> it's shame....
[17:04:51] <wjp> U7 can be done very quickly if you know what to do
[17:05:07] <Fl00der> Ultima X is coming (probably) but I think it's going to be online :-I
[17:05:13] <Fl00der> wjp
[17:05:21] <Fl00der> U7 is hard :P
[17:05:37] <wjp> not if you played through it a dozen times or so :-)
[17:05:43] <Fl00der> but I play it other way...i do what I want etc. i don't follow quest :P
[17:05:49] <Fl00der> wjp: true
[17:06:00] <Fl00der> I don't follow the quest much
[17:06:01] <Fl00der> :P
[17:06:10] <Fl00der> it's so fun to steal peoples food :P
[17:06:16] <Fl00der> from tavern :P
[17:06:22] <curiousis> hmm... Wislem changes his weapon from a spear to a two-handed sword for no good reason
[17:06:31] <curiousis> while I'm looking at him
[17:06:33] <Fl00der> hmm. :P
[17:07:09] <Fl00der> is there any official forums to Ultima ?
[17:07:13] <Fl00der> all episodes
[17:07:30] <wjp> official? no
[17:07:37] <Fl00der> well "Official" then ?
[17:07:39] <Fl00der> :)
[17:07:41] <Fl00der> somekind
[17:07:44] <wjp> there's probably some for UO, but I doubt for the rest
[17:07:48] <curiousis> have a good one
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[17:08:03] <Fl00der> well I think there is somekind
[17:08:07] <Fl00der> do you know any ?
[17:09:07] <Fl00der> arf
[17:09:10] <Fl00der> bark
[17:09:13] <Fl00der> moo
[17:09:13] <Fl00der> :)
[17:10:39] <Fl00der> hey
[17:10:41] <Fl00der> anyone alive ?
[17:10:45] <Fl00der> I need help
[17:11:09] <Fl00der> what is best program to make like new island to U7 ?
[17:12:01] * Fl00der don't like to be alone
[17:12:40] * Fl00der doesn't like to be alone with skeletons
[18:02:19] * wjp unskeletifies
[18:02:25] <wjp> (back from dinner)
[18:19:21] <Fl00der> ok...
[18:19:23] <Fl00der> wjp
[18:19:43] <Fl00der> What is best program to make something new to U7. Like new Island ?
[18:19:52] <wjp> for exult or for the original u7?
[18:20:12] <Fl00der> for exult
[18:20:19] <Fl00der> well exuilt is u7 :P
[18:20:23] <Fl00der> exult*
[18:20:23] <wjp> exult studio, I would say :-)
[18:20:26] <Fl00der> yes...
[18:20:32] <Fl00der> but I can't see map
[18:20:41] <wjp> you need to run exult too
[18:20:50] <Fl00der> at same time ?
[18:20:55] <wjp> yes
[18:21:06] <Fl00der> oh
[18:21:10] <Fl00der> thank you for tip :)
[18:21:13] <wjp> if you press ctrl-alt-m in exult it'll start exult studio
[18:21:19] <wjp> (and enter map editing mode)
[18:21:22] <Fl00der> nice
[18:21:53] <Fl00der> I think Im going to make some small Island :)
[18:22:26] <Fl00der> at least I will try :P
[18:25:13] <Fl00der> erh
[18:25:15] <Fl00der> wjp
[18:25:18] <Fl00der> I need help
[18:25:32] <Fl00der> I can't see world with exult studio :S
[18:25:48] <wjp> you're supposed to see the world in exult, not in exult studio
[18:26:18] <Fl00der> ah
[18:26:20] <Fl00der> I see it
[18:26:27] <Fl00der> oh
[18:26:28] <Fl00der> hmm
[18:26:38] <Fl00der> I think that other program is easier :P
[18:26:38] <wjp> you use exult's window for the actual editing/placement
[18:26:48] <Fl00der> oh
[18:26:52] <Fl00der> now I get it
[18:26:53] <wjp> how can you tell? you only looked at it for less than a minute
[18:26:58] <Fl00der> yes
[18:27:00] <Fl00der> I just got that
[18:27:13] <Fl00der> I know . this feels easy now...
[18:36:26] <Fl00der> argh
[18:36:28] <Fl00der> this is hard
[18:36:36] <Fl00der> must read info
[18:41:39] <Fl00der> erh
[18:41:43] <Fl00der> Anyone alive ?
[18:46:16] <wjp> somewhat
[18:46:36] <Fl00der> I can't drag shape (land) to exult from studio :S
[18:47:16] <wjp> do you have compatible versions of exult and exult studio?
[18:47:23] <Fl00der> hmm
[18:47:26] <Fl00der> not sure :)
[18:47:47] <Fl00der> I have newest exult :-,
[18:47:58] <Fl00der> 1.1.beta 1 . maybe it's doesn't work with that ?
[18:48:06] <Fl00der> :-T
[18:48:08] <wjp> what's in your studio_out.txt?
[18:48:24] <wjp> any errors?
[18:48:28] <Fl00der> (null) -1
[18:48:30] <Fl00der> U7CHUNKS 2
[18:48:30] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:48:30] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (1)
[18:48:30] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:48:30] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:31] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:31] <wjp> or studio_err.txt
[18:48:33] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:35] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:37] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:39] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:41] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:48:43] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (1)
[18:48:45] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:48:47] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:49] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:51] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:53] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:55] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:57] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:48:59] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:01] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:03] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:05] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:07] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:09] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:49:11] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (1)
[18:49:13] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:49:15] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:49:17] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (1)
[18:49:19] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:49:21] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:49:23] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (2)
[18:49:25] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:49:27] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:29] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:31] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:33] <Fl00der> In GetData
[18:49:35] <Fl00der> In DRAG_DATA_GET
[18:49:37] <Fl00der> Setting selection data (7)
[18:49:39] <Fl00der> EnumFmt
[18:49:41] <Fl00der> Error sending to server
[18:49:43] <Fl00der> that text like 10 times :S
[18:49:55] <Fl00der> so it doesn't work with this exult with that studio ?
[18:50:17] <wjp> which exult studio did you get?
[18:50:30] <Fl00der> this is old...
[18:50:39] <wjp> ah
[18:50:43] <wjp> get the latest one, then
[18:50:46] <Fl00der> last changed: 04 May 2003(GMT)
[18:50:51] <wjp> yikes
[18:50:52] <Fl00der> :P
[18:50:57] <Fl00der> hehe
[18:50:58] <Fl00der> old ?
[18:50:58] <Fl00der> :)
[18:51:05] <wjp> ancient
[18:51:07] <Fl00der> lol
[18:51:16] <Fl00der> ok. I get the latest one :)
[18:51:33] <wjp> they need to talk to eachother, so it helps if they speak the same language :-)
[18:51:42] <Fl00der> :)
[18:53:06] <Fl00der> hmm
[18:53:12] <Fl00der> where can I get newest exult studio ?
[18:53:25] <Fl00der> ah
[18:53:26] <Fl00der> here it is
[18:54:21] <wjp> download page :-)
[18:55:26] <Fl00der> found it :)
[18:55:33] <Fl00der> I first went to studio page :P
[18:55:47] <wjp> that's the docs, as you probably noticed :-)
[18:55:52] <Fl00der> yes :)
[18:56:03] <wjp> curiosis who was here earlier is writing those, btw
[18:56:23] <Fl00der> ah. I see
[18:56:48] <Fl00der> btw, what you do in exult team ? what is your job :P?
[18:57:08] <wjp> whatever I feel like, basically :-)
[18:57:16] <Fl00der> heh. nice
[18:57:46] <Fl00der> what file(s) changes when i change world ?
[18:57:57] <Fl00der> add terrain, eggs...etc.
[18:58:00] <wjp> it should save into a special patch directory
[18:58:06] <Fl00der> I see...
[18:58:20] <wjp> there was a bit of a bug with the location of that directory recently
[18:58:38] <wjp> so I'm not entirely sure where exactly that one is currently :-)
[18:59:47] <Fl00der> heh
[19:02:05] <Fl00der> dang
[19:02:09] <Fl00der> it doesn't work :(
[19:02:15] <Fl00der> maybe exult is too new
[19:02:23] <Fl00der> still: Error sending to server
[19:03:04] <Fl00der> or I use it wrong, but I think I use it right because it makes error messages :P
[19:03:24] <wjp> did you restart exult/exultstudio after getting the new one?
[19:03:30] <Fl00der> yes
[19:03:53] <wjp> ok, what exactly are you doing?
[19:03:58] <wjp> start exult
[19:04:01] <Fl00der> ok
[19:04:02] <wjp> press ctrl-alt-m, exult studio pops up
[19:04:04] <wjp> and then?
[19:04:13] <Fl00der> no it wont pop up :D
[19:04:20] <Fl00der> I need to start studio manually :S
[19:04:39] <wjp> ok, not really a problem; as long as you did press ctrl-alt-m
[19:04:47] <Fl00der> ok
[19:04:51] <Fl00der> I pressed
[19:05:05] <wjp> (ctrl-alt-m start map edit mode)
[19:05:12] <Fl00der> exult studio must be in Exult install folder ?
[19:05:30] <wjp> not sure where it should be in windows
[19:05:34] <Fl00der> ok
[19:05:40] <wjp> in the same directory as exult sounds ok, though
[19:05:45] <Fl00der> ok
[19:05:48] <Fl00der> anyway
[19:06:02] <Fl00der> oh....
[19:06:15] <Fl00der> do I need to delete Sea Texture in Game if I want put Land texture ?
[19:06:18] <Fl00der> to sea...
[19:06:19] <Fl00der> :P
[19:06:30] <wjp> 'texture'?
[19:06:32] <Fl00der> well
[19:06:36] <Fl00der> err
[19:06:46] <Fl00der> shape
[19:06:47] <Fl00der> :)
[19:06:51] <wjp> did you open 'map files/u7chunks'?
[19:07:00] <Fl00der> yes
[19:07:08] <Fl00der> I see "textures"
[19:07:16] <Fl00der> shapes are right name ?
[19:07:17] <Fl00der> :P
[19:07:21] <wjp> chunks
[19:07:24] <Fl00der> ah
[19:07:26] <Fl00der> lol
[19:07:31] <Fl00der> I just saw it
[19:07:34] <Fl00der> ok
[19:07:35] <Fl00der> anyway
[19:07:36] <wjp> (it should say "chunk x" at the bottom if you select one)
[19:07:43] <Fl00der> yes
[19:07:50] <Fl00der> how can I drag chunk X to Exult ?
[19:07:54] <Fl00der> that's the problem
[19:08:03] <wjp> it should just work by dragging it
[19:08:08] <wjp> (works here, anyway)
[19:08:32] <Fl00der> but it doesnt work :S
[19:08:33] <wjp> try if a normal shape works
[19:08:38] <wjp> (shape files/shapes.vga)
[19:08:42] <Fl00der> same thing. doesn't work :S
[19:08:54] <wjp> which windows are you using?
[19:09:04] <Fl00der> Windows XP
[19:09:11] <wjp> home/pro?
[19:09:15] <Fl00der> home
[19:09:28] <wjp> and you're sure you have exult 1.1beta?
[19:09:37] <Fl00der> yes
[19:09:37] <Fl00der> 1.1.Beta1
[19:09:46] <wjp> (somewhere from the last 3 days?)
[19:09:54] <Fl00der> yes
[19:10:22] <Fl00der> any certain options I need to activate in studio :) ?
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[19:11:16] <Fl00der> this is hard to solve :P
[19:11:19] <wjp> it should Just Work(tm)
[19:11:21] <artaxerxes> hi all
[19:11:26] <wjp> hi
[19:11:28] <Fl00der> hi
[19:11:31] <Fl00der> yes it SHOULD
[19:11:36] <Fl00der> but It Doesn't :(
[19:12:17] <artaxerxes> you forgot the (tm) ! :-)
[19:12:33] <Fl00der> er ?
[19:12:43] <artaxerxes> n/m
[19:12:51] <Fl00der> ok :P
[19:13:20] <Fl00der> artaxerxes
[19:13:27] <artaxerxes> wjp: thx for the input wrt ROM. I'm waiting for comments in the forum about mappings
[19:13:28] <Fl00der> we have a problem with wjp :P
[19:13:36] <artaxerxes> wassup?
[19:13:57] <Fl00der> I need to drag chrunks from studio to exult but it doesn't allow to do that
[19:14:04] <artaxerxes> wjp: I am amazed at the stability on the zaurus btw!
[19:14:08] <wjp> you have a problem with me? :-)
[19:14:10] <Fl00der> and makes this
[19:14:12] <Fl00der> Error sending to server
[19:14:17] <artaxerxes> platform?
[19:14:25] <Fl00der> Win XP, Home Edition
[19:14:31] <Fl00der> Ultima 7 :P
[19:14:31] <wjp> Fl00der: can you give me the first 6 lines of stdout.txt?
[19:14:33] <Fl00der> BG
[19:14:37] <Fl00der> ok
[19:14:48] <artaxerxes> you got the latest versions of ExultStudio and Exult ?
[19:14:52] <Fl00der> ye
[19:14:59] <artaxerxes> from when?
[19:15:16] <Fl00der> Exult version 1.1Beta1
[19:15:17] <Fl00der> Built at: Jul 22 2003 21:45:00
[19:15:17] <Fl00der> Compile-time options: NO_SDL_PARACHUTE, HAVE_ZIP_SUPPORT, HAVE_OPENGL
[19:15:17] <Fl00der> Compiler: Microsoft C/C++ Compiler, version: 12.0.8804
[19:15:17] <Fl00der>
[19:15:17] <Fl00der> Platform: Windows XP Service Pack 1 Version 5.1 Build 2600
[19:15:19] <Fl00der> Data path = data/
[19:15:21] <Fl00der> Music path = data//music
[19:15:23] <Fl00der> is_installed: 'c:\pelit\ultima7\u7dos\ultima7\static\endgame.dat': yes
[19:15:24] <wjp> ah
[19:15:25] <Fl00der> is_installed: 'c:\pelit\ultima7\u7dos\serpent isle\static\sispeech.spc' : yes
[19:15:27] <Fl00der> Starting a BLACK GATE game
[19:15:29] <Fl00der> Current path settings:
[19:15:31] <Fl00der> Static : c:\pelit\ultima7\u7dos\ultima7\static
[19:15:33] <Fl00der> Gamedat : c:\pelit\ultima7\u7dos\ultima7\gamedat
[19:15:35] <Fl00der> Savegame: c:\pelit\ultima7\u7dos\ultima7
[19:15:37] <Fl00der> Patch : none
[19:15:39] <Fl00der>
[19:15:40] <wjp> stop stop stop
[19:15:41] <Fl00der> Gamedat identity FORGE
[19:15:42] <wjp> 6 lines I said :-)
[19:15:43] <Fl00der> Found Serpent Isle 'paperdol.vga', 'gumps.vga' and 'shapes.vga'.
[19:15:45] <Fl00der> Support for 'Serpent Isle' Paperdolls and Multiracial Avatars in 'Black Gate' ENABLED.
[19:15:47] <Fl00der> Loading <DATA>/exult_bg.flx...
[19:15:49] <Fl00der> Loading default keybindings
[19:15:53] <Fl00der> art: just downloaded newest :)
[19:15:55] <Fl00der> ok
[19:15:57] <Fl00der> just in case I pasted little more :P
[19:16:05] <wjp> Fl00der: you do your nickname credit :-)
[19:16:12] <Fl00der> :)
[19:16:16] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[19:16:18] <wjp> ok...
[19:16:26] <wjp> so apparently this exult doesn't support exult studio
[19:16:34] <Fl00der> yes...
[19:16:36] <wjp> where did you get this one?
[19:17:03] <wjp> (the line with "NO_SDL_PARACHUTE" should also say "USE_EXULTSTUDIO")
[19:17:03] <Fl00der> hmm...I overwroted my old Exult studio with new one :P and updated my old exult with new one :P
[19:17:19] <wjp> yes, but where did you download exult?
[19:17:21] <artaxerxes> nice catch wjp!
[19:17:21] <Fl00der> maybe there is some old files still ?
[19:17:34] <Fl00der> wjp: one gave me some address
[19:17:36] <Fl00der> it wasn't homepage :P
[19:17:59] <Fl00der> hmm. I try Fresh Install
[19:18:06] <Fl00der> then I try something else
[19:18:16] <wjp> get the 1.1.x snapshot from the same page as you just got exult studio
[19:18:29] <Fl00der> ok. If I can't get this work
[19:18:35] <wjp> it won't work
[19:18:50] <wjp> this exult.exe doesn't have exult studio support built in
[19:19:06] <Fl00der> oh
[19:19:21] <Fl00der> so I need older exult ?
[19:19:30] <wjp> no, a snapshot
[19:19:50] <wjp> it's the same age, but compiled with exult studio support
[19:19:52] <Fl00der> yes....THIS >1.1.X and NOT 1.1.beta1 ? < NOT THIS
[19:19:53] <Fl00der> ?
[19:19:56] <Fl00der> ah
[19:20:05] <wjp> yes
[19:20:07] <Fl00der> but beta1 has new features :P
[19:20:11] <wjp> labelled 28 july
[19:20:15] <wjp> no it doesn't :-)
[19:20:21] <Fl00der> oh
[19:20:27] <Fl00der> why it is then beta1 ?
[19:20:36] <Fl00der> it sounds newer version :P
[19:20:44] <wjp> it is newer than 1.0
[19:20:48] <Fl00der> yes
[19:20:50] <wjp> we do "releases" and "snapshots"
[19:20:56] <Fl00der> and...
[19:21:02] <wjp> snapshots are the very very very latest version
[19:21:02] <Fl00der> 1.1.X = 1.1.Beta1 ?
[19:21:11] <wjp> the last 1.1.x snapshot is the 1.1beta1
[19:21:15] <Fl00der> oh
[19:21:19] <Fl00der> I see
[19:21:27] <wjp> but soon the snapshots will be newer than 1.1beta1
[19:21:32] <Fl00der> ok
[19:22:10] <Fl00der> that Beta1 confused me totally :)
[19:22:43] <artaxerxes> where should I post about ROM info for the zaurus package ? I need to also put info about where to get the latest SDL package.
[19:23:13] <Fl00der> well I will wait newer versions and then use studio :P
[19:23:19] <wjp> hm, version number probably in the download link
[19:23:26] <wjp> Fl00der: just get the snapshot now :-)
[19:23:46] <Fl00der> but I like the version 1.1.Beta1:P
[19:23:58] <wjp> the latest snapshot also has version 1.1.beta1
[19:24:04] <wjp> confusing, isn't it ;-)
[19:24:05] <Fl00der> it sounds better than 1.1.X
[19:24:06] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[19:24:08] <Fl00der> yea
[19:24:16] <Fl00der> oh wellĘ
[19:24:17] <Fl00der> ok
[19:24:20] <Fl00der> I try that one now
[19:24:29] * artaxerxes wonders who compiled the version Fl00der is using
[19:24:29] <wjp> the only difference between the current 1.1.x snapshot and the 1.1.beta1 download is that 1.1.x has exult studio support
[19:24:34] <wjp> version number is exactly the same
[19:24:40] <wjp> artaxerxes: I'm guessing Colourless
[19:24:47] <Fl00der> well
[19:24:51] <Fl00der> why you made Beta1 then ? :P
[19:24:54] <Fl00der> if it's the same
[19:24:57] <artaxerxes> isn't Kirben doing the snaps usually?
[19:25:07] <wjp> artaxerxes: yes, but not the releases
[19:25:14] <artaxerxes> got it
[19:25:20] <wjp> Fl00der: a "release" is when we feel reasonably confident that things "work"
[19:25:21] * Fl00der is Totally Confused :S
[19:25:30] <Fl00der> ok...
[19:25:34] <wjp> snapshots might be broken at times
[19:25:38] <artaxerxes> 2 ppl made a 1.1beta1 release
[19:25:38] <wjp> when we are experimenting with things
[19:25:40] <Fl00der> ok...
[19:25:48] <Fl00der> ok
[19:25:54] <artaxerxes> one had ES support, one didn't
[19:26:02] <artaxerxes> you happened to pick the wrong one
[19:26:02] <wjp> so when you want to download a version of exult to play, you get the latest release
[19:26:05] <Fl00der> I see...
[19:26:23] <wjp> when you want to download a version of exult to test or use with exult studio, you get the latest snapshot
[19:26:37] <artaxerxes> as simple as that!
[19:26:42] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[19:26:44] <Fl00der> yes
[19:26:48] <Fl00der> now I uderstand :P
[19:27:52] <artaxerxes> btw, I restored support for zipped savegames for the zaurus package. I didn't put it in, in the last package (the one currently for d/l btw)
[19:28:16] <Fl00der> soon we will see if this works :P
[19:28:30] <artaxerxes> I'd like to upload the latest package, but I need to know about the keyboard mappings
[19:28:42] <artaxerxes> I was thinking of the leftmost key for inventory
[19:28:51] <wjp> inventory, status, game menu
[19:28:56] <artaxerxes> home for combat
[19:28:57] <wjp> combat mode?
[19:29:03] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[19:29:04] * wjp nods :-)
[19:29:11] <artaxerxes> les grands esprits se rencontrent!
[19:29:19] <wjp> how many did you have? 5?
[19:29:31] <artaxerxes> total: 12
[19:29:38] <artaxerxes> 4 for direction
[19:29:42] <artaxerxes> one for ok
[19:29:46] <artaxerxes> one for cancel
[19:29:55] <artaxerxes> one for space (center button)
[19:30:04] <artaxerxes> and 5 available
[19:30:50] <artaxerxes> between you and me, status is kinda useless. I almost never use it
[19:31:09] <artaxerxes> The best, would be a button to switch mouse buttons, so the stylus could be used for both.
[19:31:54] * artaxerxes is really proud of that last comment. Really useful idea!
[19:32:12] <Fl00der> heh
[19:32:45] <artaxerxes> game menu already pops with "Cancel/Esc"
[19:32:47] * Fl00der hopes that Exult team will make Stealing work 100 %
[19:33:36] <Fl00der> ARGH
[19:33:42] <Fl00der> I have 1.1.Beta1
[19:33:48] <Fl00der> I need 1.1.x
[19:33:54] <Fl00der> right ?
[19:34:14] <Fl00der> I just downloaded exult from homepage and here is result :S
[19:34:21] <wjp> yes, I said that :-)
[19:34:30] <wjp> the 1.1.x snapshot IS 1.1beta1
[19:34:35] <Fl00der> yes...
[19:34:35] <Fl00der> and
[19:34:44] <Fl00der> you said I need 1.1.X to get studio work ?
[19:34:54] <Fl00der> but I can't get 1.1.X :P
[19:34:56] <wjp> what's the third line in stdout.txt after you run this one?
[19:35:07] <Fl00der> wait a sec....
[19:35:27] <artaxerxes> let's sum up: inventory (i key), combat (c key), swap_buttons (doesn't exist), unlock (key shift-k), spellbook (key b). Sounds good?
[19:35:58] <artaxerxes> Fl00der: there are 2 versions of 1.1Beta1. The one from the site is the good one
[19:36:10] <Fl00der> yes?
[19:36:22] <artaxerxes> there is no 1.1.x anymore. Forget about it, erase it from your mind.
[19:36:46] <Fl00der> ok
[19:36:48] <Fl00der> :D
[19:36:56] <artaxerxes> there is one beta with ES support and one without. The one you had was without, the one from the site is with it.
[19:37:03] <Fl00der> I wait until comes version that support Studio :P
[19:37:13] <wjp> unlock is different for SI and BG, btw
[19:37:19] <artaxerxes> the one from the site does (unless the package isn't ready yet)
[19:37:31] <Fl00der> I have it....
[19:37:39] <artaxerxes> wjp: true. but since I don't play BG, I almost never mention its specifics.
[19:37:40] <wjp> if you just got the '1.1.x' snapshot from the site, you should have exult studio support
[19:37:50] <wjp> to make sure, check the output in stdout.txt
[19:37:57] <wjp> it should say 'USE_EXULTSTUDIO' on the third line
[19:38:42] <Fl00der> AAAAAAAAAAAAH
[19:38:44] <Fl00der> IT WORKS!!!!
[19:38:47] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[19:38:53] <Fl00der> now I downloaded version from Homepage :D
[19:39:00] * Fl00der is happy happy joy joy
[19:39:17] <artaxerxes> what would be involved to add a new function to swap the mouse buttons?
[19:40:12] <wjp> hm, not too much
[19:40:33] <wjp> replace all occurences of SDL_BUTTON_LEFT/RIGHT with some variable "constants"
[19:40:43] <wjp> (that's probably the easiest)
[19:41:06] <artaxerxes> and have a function that changes this variable if called
[19:41:13] <artaxerxes> doable.
[19:41:26] <artaxerxes> where would you store this constant though?
[19:41:32] * Fl00der is making new island to Ultima7 BG :)
[19:41:42] <artaxerxes> Fl00der: all the best!
[19:41:53] <wjp> global in the Exult namespace or something... Exult::BUTTON_LEFT, Exult::BUTTON_RIGHT maybe
[19:41:59] <Fl00der> thx :P
[19:45:03] <artaxerxes> 6 occurences of SDL_BUTTON. Unfortunately it uses SDL macros
[19:47:29] <artaxerxes> hmm. doesm
[19:47:37] <artaxerxes> hmm. doesn't seem obvious to change
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[19:50:04] <artaxerxes> hi
[19:50:08] <wjp> Dominus! where were you 30 minutes ago? :-)
[19:50:08] <Dominus> Hi
[19:50:20] <Dominus> I was watching TV
[19:50:32] <artaxerxes> actually, the whole Get_Click is to be reworked.
[19:50:32] <Dominus> what was up?
[19:50:41] <wjp> artaxerxes: hmm... we don't even use SDL_BUTTON_LEFT/RIGHT... we use 1, 2, 3
[19:51:19] <wjp> so... step 1: find all places where we use numerical constants, and replace those by named constants :-)
[19:51:36] * artaxerxes wonders if there is an SDL macro to switch mouse button automatically.
[19:51:54] <artaxerxes> (that would be faster)
[19:55:01] <sbx> artaxerxes: nice mention in the O'Reilly article
[19:56:21] <artaxerxes> sbx: thx
[19:56:37] <wjp> another oreilly article?
[19:57:01] <sbx> another?
[19:57:07] <sbx> i just got around to reading it
[19:59:21] <Dominus> artaxerxes, wjp, I really did not understand anything you talked with Fl00der
[19:59:45] <Dominus> you mentioned two betas and one only supports studio?
[19:59:59] <Dominus> you really got me confused
[20:00:47] <artaxerxes> 2003/05/08 interview with Jeff and Colourless alone
[20:01:55] <artaxerxes> 2003/04/24 interview with the whole team
[20:02:07] <Dominus> ah, the official beta1 is not compiled with ES support it seems...
[20:02:21] <Dominus> now why is that...
[20:05:08] <artaxerxes> It seems Colourless did the release. He probably didn't have the list of options to compile exult that Kirben uses.
[20:06:22] * Dominus nods
[20:06:36] <Dominus> something to tell him and maybe correct for the release
[20:14:08] <Fl00der> phew
[20:14:15] <Fl00der> Finally I have land on my island
[20:14:24] * Fl00der is making new island to Ultima7 BG :)
[20:15:31] <wjp> Fl00der: did you make sure saving/loading your new map works properly?
[20:16:04] <artaxerxes> wjp: it will be hard to convert things like: event.button.button == 1
[20:16:15] <wjp> just change the 1 to SDL_BUTTON_LEFT
[20:16:16] <artaxerxes> (see exult.cc)
[20:16:28] <wjp> but you'll need to find all of them :-)
[20:16:48] <wjp> I would not do this before 1.1beta1, btw
[20:17:15] <wjp> (in fact, you can't since that's already released :-) )
[20:17:30] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[20:17:39] <Dominus> wjp, I was wondering if you could help me with a "small" problem I have since I have a new mouse.
[20:17:47] <artaxerxes> that's a good improvment idea for 1.1beta2!
[20:18:15] <Dominus> my doubleclick is not on the midlle mouse button but on the thumb button and I can'T doubleclick now in exult
[20:18:38] <artaxerxes> wjp: where can I find exult's namespace? I grep for it in the source but I couldn't get anything useful with "namespace" in it
[20:22:32] <wjp> you can put things in namespace exult anywhere
[20:22:53] <wjp> apparently we don't have a namespace exult :-)
[20:22:57] <artaxerxes> ;-)
[20:24:37] <wjp> don't let that stop you, though
[20:24:49] <artaxerxes> Dominus: regarding your email, I'll write sth for you
[20:24:52] <wjp> Dominus: "your doubleclick"?
[20:25:11] <Dominus> artaxerxes: thanks
[20:25:15] <artaxerxes> wjp: I'll add the 4 buttons that are possible to use and I'll upload the package today
[20:25:41] * artaxerxes is preparing a new zaurus package. bl
[20:25:42] <artaxerxes> bbl
[20:25:47] <Dominus> wjp: at some point in exult I could use the button declared as doubleclick button in the system and it would work in exult accordingly
[20:25:51] <Dominus> now it doesn't anymore
[20:26:05] <wjp> hm
[20:26:18] <wjp> are there any sdl mouse test programs around?
[20:27:51] <wjp> does it still work in windows itself?
[20:27:56] <Dominus> oops
[20:27:59] <Dominus> forget it
[20:28:31] <Dominus> there was a new program for my logitech mouse and I needed to set it so my doubleclick would also work in games...
[20:29:05] <Dominus> problem solved
[20:29:22] <Dominus> move on, nothing to see here
[20:46:17] <artaxerxes> mapping done. I replaced the switch_button with target_mode which is also very useful!
[20:46:34] <wjp> indeed
[20:55:17] <Dominus> got to go again
[20:55:20] <Dominus> bye
[20:55:21] <wjp> bye
[20:55:31] <-- Dominus has left IRC ("enough for now")
[20:56:59] <artaxerxes> zaurus package is uploaded
[20:57:49] <wjp> do you have release rights for exult?
[20:58:01] <artaxerxes> don't know!
[20:58:49] <wjp> hm, define "uploaded" :-)
[20:58:56] <artaxerxes> I think I made a mistake! I've launched the update.sh script!
[20:59:13] <wjp> ugh
[20:59:25] <artaxerxes> so the news is posted etc
[20:59:28] <artaxerxes> darn
[20:59:28] <wjp> may I ask why? :-)
[20:59:54] <artaxerxes> habits... whenever I uploaded a file, I would launch update.sh to fix permissions
[20:59:59] <artaxerxes> sorry
[21:00:17] <wjp> and we didn't even fix the typos in the release message yet :-)
[21:01:11] <artaxerxes> sorry sorry sorry... :_(
[21:01:23] <wjp> ah well
[21:01:30] <wjp> it had to be released anyway :-)
[21:01:43] <artaxerxes> I feel like crap! :-(
[21:01:54] <wjp> don't worry about it :-)
[21:02:08] <wjp> so... uh.. where did you upload it?
[21:02:23] <artaxerxes> htdocs/snapshots/
[21:02:30] <wjp> hm
[21:02:48] <artaxerxes> it shows under the download page with the right date
[21:02:49] <wjp> which file is it?
[21:03:10] <artaxerxes> exult-zaurus.ipk (symlink to exult_1.1.0_arm.ipk
[21:03:20] <wjp> can I rename them?
[21:03:27] <wjp> (and upload to the SF release tracker)
[21:03:35] <wjp> exult-1.1beta1-zaurus.ipk?
[21:03:56] <wjp> or are there restrictions on the name?
[21:03:58] <artaxerxes> sure but there is a file to change then. One that ends in .dat
[21:04:04] <wjp> I know
[21:04:13] <artaxerxes> I believe the filename is important
[21:04:15] <wjp> but I won't change the files there
[21:04:24] <wjp> just the one we're actually going to release
[21:04:28] <artaxerxes> that's how the installer knows which version to update with
[21:04:37] <wjp> (and which will show up in "Official - v1.1Beta1")
[21:05:12] <artaxerxes> rename it to 1.0.9 then
[21:05:22] <wjp> uh, no :-)
[21:05:36] <artaxerxes> I think you can't have letters in file release version.
[21:05:56] <artaxerxes> (what's between the _)
[21:06:07] <artaxerxes> 1.0.99 ?
[21:06:14] <wjp> too confusing
[21:06:52] <artaxerxes> I do apologize again for this.
[21:07:27] <artaxerxes> I didn't mean to take anyone's place and I didn't think it would put the announcement up
[21:08:08] <wjp> http://www.ossh.com/zaurus/mirrors/docs.zaurus.com/ipkg_howto.shtml <-- is that about the right things?
[21:09:01] <wjp> it says version should match [a-zA-Z0-9.+]*
[21:09:22] <artaxerxes> then it should be ok.
[21:09:44] <artaxerxes> let me update my CONTROL file and upload again
[21:10:02] <wjp> upload it to ftp://upload.sf.net/incoming
[21:10:16] <wjp> the snapshots can stay like this
[21:10:42] <wjp> so it would become exult_1.1beta1_arm.ipk?
[21:10:58] <Fl00der> good vening
[21:11:01] <Fl00der> evening*
[21:11:09] <artaxerxes> bye
[21:11:28] <artaxerxes> yup
[21:11:29] <Fl00der> why exult studio crashes when I try put frame 498 and apply ? (chicken)
[21:11:38] <Fl00der> in Create EGG...
[21:11:53] <wjp> frame 498? isn't that a bit high?
[21:12:07] <Fl00der> soory
[21:12:08] <artaxerxes> uploaded to FTP
[21:12:08] <Fl00der> I meant
[21:12:20] <Fl00der> shape number 498
[21:12:27] <Fl00der> not frame :P
[21:12:30] <Fl00der> my bad
[21:12:34] <artaxerxes> wjp: are you updating the file release page on SF?
[21:12:38] <wjp> yes
[21:12:40] <artaxerxes> wjp: the file is up
[21:12:50] <Fl00der> SF?
[21:13:08] <Fl00der> when I put shape number 498 (chicken) and press apply, studio crashes :S
[21:13:10] <artaxerxes> wjp: and it can be used for exult's homepage too.
[21:13:15] <Fl00der> and comes some error message
[21:13:18] <artaxerxes> Fl00der: Sourceforge.net
[21:13:21] <artaxerxes> gotta go
[21:13:25] <artaxerxes> sorry again!
[21:13:37] <wjp> bye
[21:13:37] <artaxerxes> see ya later.
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[21:13:50] <Fl00der> gtk.-Error
[21:14:14] <Fl00der> file gtkentry.c.....bla bla bla
[21:14:25] <Fl00der> that error comes
[21:14:36] <Fl00der> :S
[21:14:51] <wjp> bla bla bla?
[21:14:54] <wjp> interesting error
[21:14:57] <Fl00der> lol
[21:14:58] <Fl00der> wjp
[21:15:06] <Fl00der> I don't want to write whole error :P
[21:15:10] <Fl00der> but ok. I write what it says
[21:15:12] <wjp> then I don't want to fix it :-)
[21:15:26] <wjp> why not copy paste?
[21:15:29] <Fl00der> ok ok. I write it
[21:15:30] <Fl00der> can't
[21:17:02] <Fl00der> ERROR: GTK-ERROR **: file gtkentry.c: line 4302 (blink_cb): assertion failed: (GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS (entry)) aborting...
[21:17:07] <Fl00der> there is whole error message :S
[21:17:30] <wjp> can you say exactly what you did?
[21:17:36] <Fl00der> ok
[21:17:48] <wjp> start exult, exult-studio, and then?
[21:18:03] <wjp> (only the egg-creation part)
[21:18:06] <Fl00der> wait a sec. I write. im not a god :P
[21:18:52] <Fl00der> Edit > Create EGG... > I change blank shape number to 498 (chicken) and press apply and it crashes
[21:19:23] <Fl00der> understand ?
[21:19:39] <wjp> fixed :-)
[21:19:50] <Fl00der> :o
[21:20:02] <Fl00der> you fixed that thing already ?
[21:20:05] <Fl00der> :P
[21:20:09] <wjp> yes :-)
[21:20:14] <Fl00der> wow, good job :)
[21:20:29] <Fl00der> now...where can I get that fixed exult studio :P?
[21:20:43] <wjp> you'll have to wait for the next snapshot
[21:20:49] <Fl00der> uuuf
[21:20:52] <Fl00der> ok
[21:20:55] <Fl00der> btw
[21:20:57] <wjp> (the date is behind it, so you can see when it's updated)
[21:21:15] <Fl00der> Can you guys upload my island when it's done ? :P to somewhere
[21:21:25] <Fl00der> behind where ?
[21:21:30] <wjp> on the download page
[21:21:38] <Fl00der> eh ?
[21:21:40] <wjp> Exult Studio (work in progress) 2003-07-28 05:45 3884 KB
[21:21:43] <Fl00der> ah
[21:21:45] <Fl00der> ok
[21:22:02] <Fl00der> so when next studio comes ?
[21:22:15] <Fl00der> now it's 2003-07-30
[21:22:19] <wjp> depends on when Kirben creates the next snapshot
[21:22:23] <Fl00der> ok
[21:22:26] <Fl00der> btw....
[21:22:44] <Fl00der> same thing is with Create NPC....
[21:22:49] <wjp> oh?
[21:22:56] <wjp> I thought I already fixed that last week
[21:23:00] <Fl00der> crashes when I click buttons
[21:23:16] <Fl00der> hmm
[21:23:20] <Fl00der> say some shape number
[21:23:21] <Fl00der> npc
[21:23:23] <Fl00der> :)
[21:23:33] <wjp> works for me
[21:23:44] <Fl00der> oh
[21:23:50] <wjp> did you set a frame?
[21:24:02] <Fl00der> I didn't set shape yet :P
[21:24:06] <wjp> ah
[21:24:06] <Fl00der> don't know where they are :P
[21:24:21] <wjp> look in shape files/shapes.flx
[21:24:27] <Fl00der> ok. thx
[21:25:03] <Fl00der> omg
[21:25:10] <Fl00der> when I put shape 228 (papa) and press aply...
[21:25:11] <Fl00der> apply
[21:25:15] <Fl00der> it crashes same way :S
[21:25:37] <Fl00der> BUT
[21:25:42] <Fl00der> I can Add it anyway to map
[21:26:24] <Fl00der> same thing on Create EGG...
[21:26:31] <Fl00der> it works somehow I guess....but not 100 % :P
[21:27:21] <Fl00der> wjp
[21:27:24] <Fl00der> HEELP :P
[21:28:50] <Fl00der> dang
[21:35:46] <Fl00der> well gotta go now
[21:35:52] <Fl00der> thx for help and so on
[21:35:56] <Fl00der> see ya
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[23:24:08] <servus> H'lo.
[23:24:19] <servus> Flooder lives up to his name -- my logs are incredibly large!