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[03:18:26] * servus shivers at the 3D Studio Max SDK.
[03:18:30] * servus ***shiver***
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[05:27:45] <servus> Yay!
[05:27:48] <servus> It works, finally.
[05:27:51] <servus> Lousy 3dmax.:)
[07:19:19] * Jammet mews?
[07:19:32] <Jammet> =^_^= I'm here. Now. Mew.
[07:19:35] <Jammet> Hej servus =^_^=
[08:22:01] <servus> Hello Servus.
[08:22:05] * servus laughs
[08:22:08] <servus> Hello Jammet, even!
[08:29:29] <servus> How goes it?
[08:31:55] <Jammet> Hej servus =)
[08:32:08] <Jammet> I'm fine. Working on the UW strings for a german translation. Still.
[08:32:40] <Jammet> And you? =) How's uwadv progressing? I can't wait to plaaaay! =^_^=
[08:32:47] * Jammet hophops.
[08:32:58] <Jammet> Too bad LOW's pretty much dead. It was so promising.
[08:33:00] <servus> Ah.
[08:33:02] <servus> Low isn't dead
[08:33:04] <servus> Updated yesterday.
[08:33:09] <Jammet> Oh.
[08:33:10] <Jammet> OH!
[08:33:13] <servus> UWadv is much more dead. :P
[08:33:13] <Jammet> Let me see.
[08:33:21] <Jammet> You're lying =).
[08:33:25] <servus> Not "updated", but a new message on the board, and he's starting to work on it more
[08:33:49] <servus> I haven't heard ANYTHING on uwadv lately except that the code is being "restructured"... I haven't even been asked for any boned models.
[08:33:51] <Jammet> AFAIK he's revaming uwadv's code.
[08:34:02] <servus> Yes but as for making progress? :P
[08:34:06] <Jammet> I don't know.
[08:34:08] <servus> I'm working on my own engine right now. :)
[08:34:19] <Jammet> Hey, if making actual progess is getting easier once the code is revamped, fine with me?
[08:34:27] <servus> Yep
[08:34:38] <servus> I never gave them the physics engine I wrote for uwadv because... it stinks. :)
[08:34:40] <Jammet> =) Oh well. Hope it's going to get to be actually used. Not another half finished thingy.
[08:34:53] <servus> Yepyep
[08:38:42] <Jammet> Mmh. Okay, so the Low project isn't deaed.
[08:38:50] <Jammet> But damn, he too wants to rewrite things. =(
[08:39:08] <Jammet> It was fine. It would've been so nice if he just kept improving on it.
[08:39:12] <Jammet> (mewl~)
[08:39:27] <Jammet> Another two years...
[08:39:34] <Jammet> (Sorry)
[08:42:46] <Jammet> Well, he's asking for modellers. Maybe he can make good use of your skills.
[08:43:29] <servus> I already mailed him
[08:43:45] <servus> I had agreed to make him models half a year ago but he just now saw the ones I made for him. :P
[08:44:12] <servus> And he can't keep the models he already had, as they were 'stolen IP'
[08:44:15] <servus> He'd get sued.
[08:44:32] <Jammet> They were from U9, right?
[08:45:04] <Jammet> I'm much in love with uwadv and low. I'll help where I can, but I'm afraid it isn't much.
[08:45:15] <Jammet> I can do graphics pretty well. I would like to do some textures.
[08:54:53] <servus> Ultima Online: 3D
[08:55:00] <Jammet> Ah, okay.
[08:55:05] <servus> I did all the door textures, which I am rather proud of :)
[08:55:18] <servus>
[08:55:19] <Jammet> I guessed something like that when I saw the models but at that time I was just happy to see Low running.
[08:55:52] <Jammet> Yes, that's a nice texture. =)
[08:56:00] <Jammet> Textures.
[08:59:25] <servus> Thankee
[08:59:34] <Jammet> Hmm your FOVTest image...
[08:59:38] <Jammet> Is uwadv's fov smaller?
[09:01:42] <servus> The walls are higher.
[09:02:05] <servus> It's all screwy, there are several things wrong, but nothing too hard to fix -- I fixed them myself, even. :)
[09:02:29] <servus> The FOV is tighter in uwadv as well. The player is standing in the same position in both shots
[09:03:26] <servus> LoW seems to have a rather correct FoV
[09:03:42] <servus> Ugh, gotta put in GL ARB extension checking code.
[09:03:57] <Jammet> Oh. Alright.
[09:04:02] <Jammet> Very interesting though.
[09:04:14] <servus> Yepyep, these developers don't check the original game. *grin*
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[14:58:25] <Fl00der> hi
[14:58:35] <Fl00der> where is everyone ? :P
[14:59:54] <Fl00der> hmmm. gotta go
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[16:12:39] <wjp> hi
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[17:02:49] <artaxerxes> hi all
[17:03:05] <wjp> hi
[17:03:59] <artaxerxes> I'm leaving on holidays on Saturday. Do you want me to prepare a newer package for Zaurus before then?
[17:05:23] <wjp> see if you can prod Jeff to release beta3 tomorrow :-)
[17:05:46] <wjp> bbl, dinner
[17:28:09] <wjp> back
[17:35:58] <artaxerxes> wb
[17:36:06] <artaxerxes> I've just emailed DrCode
[17:36:15] <wjp> on the list?
[17:36:39] <artaxerxes> nope. Directly
[17:36:46] <wjp> ah, ok
[18:08:05] <artaxerxes> gotta go. If Jeff gives me the green light, I'll send you an email with the address of where I put the ipkg for Zaurus (if it's ok with you)
[18:10:43] <wjp> sure
[18:11:10] <wjp> bye
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[19:05:17] <Dominus> hi all
[19:05:20] <Dominus> the probably usual question wjp: what's up with the log?
[19:06:10] <wjp> our raid died, basically
[19:06:24] <Dominus> ah, you predicted this a couple of days ago
[19:08:43] <Dominus> so, exultbot still logs and we can view the logs at some other time? I'm sure the exult logs are the universities main concern! :-)
[19:09:10] <Dominus> I mean priority to get it back up! :-)
[19:10:29] <wjp> I hacked up exultbot to store logs somewhere else
[19:10:42] <wjp> so, yes, it's still logging, and you'll be able to view it sometime
[19:10:56] <Dominus> nice, thanks
[19:12:04] <Dominus> I feel so uninformed without the logs. you probably made a major breakthrough on some of the exultbots channels and I don't know about it....
[19:12:10] <Dominus> :-)
[19:17:16] <Jammet> What's wrong with this command? ipchains -A input -p tcp -s 0/0 -d 0/0 23 -j ACCEPT
[19:17:21] <Jammet> I want to open the telnet port.
[19:19:51] <wjp> ipchains? hm, that's long ago :-)
[19:20:16] <wjp> depends on the rest of your input chain, though
[19:21:21] <wjp> also, I'm not sure if '0/0' is valid syntax
[19:25:47] <Jammet> Mh.
[19:26:01] <Jammet> I really wonder. I've tried lots combinations...
[19:26:09] <Jammet> Mewl. =( I've got to keep trying I guess.
[19:26:16] <wjp> -A appends to the back of the chain
[19:26:31] <Jammet> I've opened input and output for that.
[19:26:34] <wjp> so if anything earlier on rejects/denies the packet, it won't matter
[19:27:48] <wjp> you can use "ipchains -I input 1 -p tcp ..." to insert a rule at the start of the input chain
[19:28:26] <Jammet> I'll test that.
[19:30:17] <wjp> you can also 'trace' a packet through the chain with 'ipchains -C input -p tcp -s <some external ip> -i <interface> -d <your ip> 23', I think
[19:30:35] <Jammet> That's a good idea. =) Thank you.
[19:30:41] <wjp> (add a -v to that after the -C for more verbosity)
[19:32:37] <Jammet> ipchains: one port required with source/destination address for -C
[19:32:58] <wjp> oh, it probably needs a port after the source ip too
[19:33:02] <Jammet> I know that it needs a port. Of course. But I specified one.
[19:33:09] <Jammet> Mh. Okay.
[19:34:49] <Jammet> ipchains -v -C input -p tcp -s --source-port 23 -d 23
[19:34:54] <Jammet> ipchains: You need to supply the `-i' option for this command
[19:35:04] <wjp> yes, I know :-)
[19:35:05] <Jammet> I'm going crazy. It's like debian dependencies.
[19:35:22] * wjp points at the "-i <interface>" in his commandline :-)
[19:35:35] * Jammet sighs and writes a book =).
[19:36:21] <Jammet> =^_^= Now I'm confused.
[19:36:34] <Jammet> Can you telnet to me and tell me if it's open?
[19:36:51] <Jammet> Because I think the firewall of the source computer where I tried from blocks outgoing telnet attemts.
[19:36:59] <Jammet> I could have done attempts at that to all eternity.
[19:37:03] <wjp> connection refused
[19:37:14] <Jammet> jammet:~ # ipchains -i ppp0 -C input -p tcp -s --source-port 234 -d 23
[19:37:17] <Jammet> accepted
[19:37:26] <Jammet> Accepted with source port 23 also.
[19:38:07] <wjp> try 'tcpdump -i ppp0 port 23'
[19:38:20] <wjp> I'll telnet to you; see if you can see any traffic
[19:38:23] <Jammet> Okay.
[19:38:30] <Jammet> Please do.
[19:38:50] <wjp> anything?
[19:38:52] <Jammet> 21:38:32.447932 ip503c5297.speed.planet.nl.33450 > port-212-202-25-15.reverse.qsc.de.telnet: S 849761709:849761709(0) win 5608 <mss 1402,sackOK,timestamp 1327553 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF) [tos 0x10]
[19:38:56] <Jammet> 21:38:32.448041 port-212-202-25-15.reverse.qsc.de.telnet > ip503c5297.speed.planet.nl.33450: R 0:0(0) ack 849761710 win 0 (DF) [tos 0x10]
[19:38:59] <Jammet> 21:38:43.378676 ip503c5297.speed.planet.nl.33451 > port-212-202-25-15.reverse.qsc.de.telnet: S 853783929:853783929(0) win 5608 <mss 1402,sackOK,timestamp 1328646 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF) [tos 0x10]
[19:39:03] <Jammet> 21:38:43.378786 port-212-202-25-15.reverse.qsc.de.telnet > ip503c5297.speed.planet.nl.33451: R 0:0(0) ack 853783930 win 0 (DF) [tos 0x10]
[19:39:14] <wjp> um, just out of curiosity, you do have something listening on port 23, right?
[19:39:30] <Jammet> Not at this second no.
[19:39:35] <Jammet> Want me to?
[19:39:48] <wjp> this is expected behaviour when there's nothing listening on that port :-)
[19:40:04] <Jammet> Okay, now you got DosBox listening (hopefully) with a terminal proggie =).
[19:40:18] <wjp> you're running dosbox as root?
[19:40:22] <Jammet> Nope.
[19:40:29] <wjp> then it can't bind to ports < 1024
[19:40:38] <Jammet> Oh, right.
[19:40:42] <wjp> ("netstat -lnt" shows all listening servers, btw)
[19:40:47] <Jammet> (Then, what's the point of having it use that port?)
[19:41:06] <wjp> probably a windows-ism :-)
[19:41:08] <Jammet> Nothing listening on port 23.
[19:41:21] <Jammet> I don't wanna run that as root =).
[19:41:23] <wjp> try "nc -l -p 23" as root
[19:41:50] <Jammet> There's your ping =).
[19:41:57] <Jammet> NC - Client program for NEdit text editor
[19:41:59] <Jammet> Huh?
[19:42:06] <wjp> different nc :-)
[19:42:11] <Jammet> What's nc?
[19:42:17] <wjp> netcat
[19:42:23] <Jammet> Ah.
[19:42:27] <Jammet> I remember installing that a looong time ago.
[19:42:30] <wjp> -l = listen, -p = port
[19:42:40] <Jammet> So, telnet works, I was just too forgetful.
[19:42:57] * Jammet mews thankfully and smiles, and if you don't mind, *nuzzle* =^_^=
[19:43:11] <wjp> :-)
[19:43:13] <Jammet> I always forget things I haven't used much =(.
[19:43:31] <wjp> that's quite normal :-)
[19:43:36] <Jammet> Dosbox is supposed to work using telnet. That is really a good idea. Really really. I can call mailboxes with that, you know.
[19:45:51] <Jammet> =) Thank you.
[19:45:55] <wjp> hm, it looks like you can set the port dosbox listens on with 'listenport' in the modem section in dosbox.conf
[19:46:11] <Jammet> There is one? Maybe I need to type it in.
[19:46:20] <Jammet> The problem is, when I change that, I can't call to telnet BBS systems.
[19:46:28] <wjp> it's just the port it listens on
[19:46:36] <wjp> the default 'out' port is hardcoded to 23
[19:46:44] <Jammet> Okay. Wanna try to connect using DosBox and a terminal?
[19:46:59] <wjp> I'd need to get something to run in dosbox
[19:47:20] <Jammet> http://www.lanet.lv/ftp/simtelnet/msdos/termnate/500ter.zip .... something like this?
[19:47:32] <wjp> if you say so :-)
[19:47:42] <Jammet> =^_^= Let's try. I can tell Qbix about it then.
[19:48:42] <Jammet> I'll set the listen port to 8888.
[19:49:33] <Jammet> LOL, It really does Ring =).
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[19:50:38] * wjp drums fingers idly while waiting for this thing to install
[19:50:53] <Jammet> Thanks for playing with me =^_^=.
[19:51:10] <Jammet> It's fun. If you'd like you, you can dial into a telnet BBS with that thing too. wasteland.bbs.us is one.
[19:51:49] <Jammet> Modem Setup should be COM2 38400 8N1
[19:52:28] <Jammet> Just curious, if the outgoing port is hardcoded, how're you going to call me at port 8888?
[19:53:02] <Jammet> (I wonder).
[19:53:32] <wjp> you missed a vital word in my sentence :-)
[19:54:12] <Jammet> I'm going to call you then?
[19:54:17] * Jammet fluffs a bit helpless.
[19:54:32] <wjp> the default out port is hardcoded
[19:54:38] <Jammet> Yes. 23.
[19:54:38] <wjp> not the out port
[19:55:04] <Jammet> Um. Okay, I know this really isn't nitpicking, but it was too subtile for me.
[19:55:16] <Jammet> I'm sorry.
[19:55:20] <wjp> yikes, how much personal info does this terminat thing want from me? :-)
[19:55:22] <wjp> heh, np :-)
[19:55:37] <Jammet> =^_^= Bogus info will be fine. After all, this is the FINAL Terminal.
[19:55:56] <wjp> oh, it's very bogus :-)
[19:56:22] * wjp tries to dial
[19:56:52] <Jammet> Once connected, press ALT-Y =).
[19:57:28] * wjp kicks dosbox
[19:57:34] <Jammet> Mew?
[19:58:36] <wjp> Failed to resolve host PORT-212-202-25-15.REVERSE.QSC.DE:Couldn't bind to local port
[19:59:33] <wjp> I wonder what SDLNet_ResolveHost is trying to do
[20:00:53] <Jammet> Mmm.
[20:01:03] <Jammet> Try my IP?
[20:01:11] <wjp> same
[20:01:20] <Jammet> Now that is odd.
[20:01:28] <Jammet> I'm really here. =^_^= I swear.
[20:02:59] <Jammet> Want me to try and call you instead?
[20:03:44] <wjp> peculiar
[20:04:09] <wjp> hm, that would require me to figure out port forwarding again :-)
[20:04:10] <Jammet> Maybe something with QSC. My provider for the PPPOE.
[20:04:27] <Jammet> =) Okay. So, maybe another time.
[20:04:37] <wjp> nah, the "Couldn't bind to local port" error would indicate something here
[20:05:20] <Jammet> I'll keep the listening port at 8888.
[20:05:37] <Jammet> But I'll ask Qbix to perhaps change that default port to something above 1024.
[20:05:40] <wjp> I don't really see how this could happen
[20:05:57] <Jammet> I don't know. I had this happening to me too. Once. A few months ago, with google.
[20:06:01] <Jammet> Very odd.
[20:06:10] <Jammet> I had to use one other google IP to actually get there.
[20:06:34] <wjp> browsing SDL_net and dosbox sources currently
[20:06:36] <Jammet> I figured a DNS change and the server wasn't up to date on it.
[20:07:03] <Jammet> While you're at it, the FIFO in Dosbox is breaking 8bit sends. CRC errors all over. Even normal ANSI graphics looks garbled very often.
[20:07:08] <wjp> wait a second...
[20:07:26] <Jammet> Yup
[20:07:39] <wjp> bingo :-)
[20:07:57] <wjp> note to self: don't add a space after 'ATDT' :-)
[20:08:00] <wjp> uh
[20:08:04] <Jammet> Oh.
[20:08:07] <Jammet> I always did that. =)
[20:08:15] * wjp pressed alt-y
[20:08:29] <Jammet> That was correct.
[20:08:41] <wjp> yes, but apparently it aborted the chat instead of starting it :-)
[20:08:50] <Jammet> I'Eek.
[20:12:05] * wjp hmms
[20:12:23] <wjp> not really smooth :-)
[20:12:35] <Jammet> =)))
[20:12:38] <Jammet> Hey, it works!
[20:12:41] <Jammet> Well, to some degree.
[20:12:51] <Jammet> I expected 100% errors. Something has improved.
[20:13:04] <Jammet> Only 15 errors so far.
[20:13:13] <Jammet> Mmh. When I try downloading from a BBS I always get errors.
[20:13:34] <wjp> 400 bps :-)
[20:13:38] <Jammet> I don't even know what that file is, it was in that old DOS folder from .... I think it's a Quake 2 file of sorts.
[20:13:49] <Jammet> It beeps here, constantly. I wonder why.
[20:13:54] <Fingolfin> wjp: is developer CVS not working for you, too? or am I the only one?
[20:14:34] <wjp> Fingolfin: hm, getting "connection closed"
[20:14:41] <Fingolfin> yeah ok
[20:15:00] <Fingolfin> SF.net staff is set on it now
[20:15:57] <Jammet> wjp: Does your PC speaker revolt too? it beeps with every "Transmit block" here. Odd.
[20:16:07] <wjp> Jammet: um, getting garbage in the chat window now
[20:16:16] <Jammet> Here it's still sending.
[20:16:20] <Jammet> 94%
[20:16:29] <wjp> it said "transfer complete" here
[20:16:35] <Jammet> Now it stopped.
[20:16:37] <wjp> (while it was at 19%)
[20:16:48] <Jammet> At 19%???
[20:16:59] <Jammet> Okay now, something is going very wrong there. =)
[20:18:13] <wjp> I'll hang up now
[20:18:18] <Jammet> Yup.
[20:18:32] <Jammet> You can't.
[20:18:39] <Jammet> Looks like DosBox's modem doesn't swallow ATH0 yet.
[20:18:53] <Jammet> That'll cost...
[20:18:56] <wjp> ctrl-f9 seems to have done the job :-)
[20:18:57] * Jammet giggles.
[20:18:58] <Jammet> Okay.
[20:19:22] <Jammet> Anyway, that only looked like it was working. I bet the file is garbage.
[20:20:05] <wjp> I have 60416 bytes of Q2PAK.ZIP
[20:20:14] <Jammet> Is a FIFO/Uart something very complex? I thought it was something like a small hardware cache for the flow of data.
[20:20:21] <Jammet> Well, alright.
[20:20:38] <wjp> FIFO is just a fancy name for a queue
[20:20:44] <wjp> ('first in first out')
[20:20:52] <Jammet> If that data is intact, an extremely error responsive Zmodem protocol with a packet size of 256 byte might be able to send a whole file intact.
[20:20:53] <wjp> or maybe queue is a fancy name for a fifo... hmmm... :-)
[20:21:03] <Jammet> What does Uart mean? =)
[20:21:32] <wjp> hm, don't know
[20:21:32] <wjp> it's a serial port controller, IIRC, though
[20:21:37] <Jammet> Ah.
[20:22:01] <wjp> universal asynchronous receiver transmitter
[20:22:02] <Jammet> Qbix was working on that. We tried finding some errors together but didn't find anything. We compared broken ANSI sequences.
[20:22:12] <Jammet> Wow...
[20:22:19] <DarkeZzz> http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/RS-232_uart.html
[20:22:21] <Jammet> Thanks. =) We leopard cubs never learn out.
[20:22:24] <Jammet> Thanks.
[20:22:58] * DarkeZzz uses the mystical power of google to find what he's not learned. *grin*
[20:23:03] <Jammet> For games like DOOM to work this needs a lot of improvement. It must be stable and 8bit safe.
[20:23:27] <Jammet> So people can use that old SERSETUP and play over the "phone" again.
[20:24:13] <Jammet> Can't wait for that bit to work... =^_^= Nostalgia rules. C&C 1 using that.
[20:25:03] * DarkeZzz admits he'd prefer to grab a rather more recent 'version' of DOOM with tcp/ip support himself. *grin* But yes, that's good for other games not sufficiently setup.
[20:27:02] <Dominus> hi sleepy head
[20:28:45] <Jammet> Yup. =) It's a fun factor.
[20:31:45] * DarkeZzz wavies and does the forgotten 'Hi' thing. *grin*
[20:36:12] * Jammet purrs and waves a small paw happily
[20:36:18] * Jammet curls up =^_6= Nighty.
[20:36:32] <wjp> night
[20:37:02] <DarkeZzz> Night!
[20:37:37] <wjp> hm, I don't see anything wrong with this modem code at first glance
[20:37:45] * DarkeZzz blinks. He's had this install of gentoo up and running for at least the last 12 months... and only just realised he doesn't have a telnet client installed.
[20:38:10] <wjp> who needs one anyway? :-)
[20:39:02] <DarkeZzz> Well... I was trying to check that my newly installed mysql swerver was up and... well... swerving, but I'm lacking an appropriate tool to do so. *grin* Turns out I just hadn't started it running anyway.
[20:39:23] <Dominus> another crying freeman episode successfully captured...
[20:40:06] <wjp> time for me to go kill some monsters and save the world... the usual
[20:40:13] <wjp> (i.e., reboot and go play BG2 :-) )
[20:40:15] <wjp> bye
[20:40:19] <Dominus> now it'S down to eps 5+6 which are on one video anyway... and then I'll capture my urotsukidoji...
[20:40:21] <Dominus> bye
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[20:40:29] <DarkeZzz> Bye!
[20:41:14] * DarkeZzz can never remember how to spell Urotsukidoji, and has absolutely *no* idea how to pronounce it...
[20:41:46] <Dominus> and i'd love to know what it actually means...
[20:42:37] <Dominus> I saw this nice DVD package of all the episodes in one pack... but I already spent money way back on the videos...
[20:42:49] <Dominus> so now I'm capturing those...
[20:42:59] <DarkeZzz> Dunno. I know the english titles translates to "Legend of the Overfiend", but that's about all.
[20:43:22] <DarkeZzz> Been wanting to get a copy of it, but unfortunately the only one available in .au is the hacked-to-pieces 'censored' version.
[20:43:52] <Dominus> hmm, I wonder if I have a hacked to pieces version of it...
[20:44:28] <DarkeZzz> The answer is... it depends. *grin*
[20:44:46] <Dominus> on what?
[20:44:56] <DarkeZzz> The only verifyable 'non-hacked to bits' version I know of, is the DVD "Urotsukidoji: Perfect Collection" one.
[20:45:22] <DarkeZzz> Apparently there were a few non-hacked video versions, but I never payed much attention to them, since they're video and I don't have a player. *grin*
[20:46:34] <Dominus> any idea how long the non-censored version is supposed to be?
[20:46:56] <DarkeZzz> Just hunting. THere was a good review of the differences I found a while back...
[20:49:29] <DarkeZzz> http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ReviewID=991 <- This mentions various times, for at least the censored R4 DVD version.
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[20:52:02] <wjp> sigh...
[20:52:09] <wjp> I should really get myself a decent win32 irc client sometime
[20:52:10] <Dominus> huh?
[20:52:20] <wjp> wasn't there an irssi port?
[20:52:28] <Dominus> what are you using atm?
[20:52:39] <wjp> mirc32
[20:52:53] <DarkeZzz> xchat works perfectly under windows. *grin*
[20:53:26] * wjp alt-tabs back to BG2 :-)
[20:53:33] <Dominus> have fun
[20:53:40] <wjp> I might seem a bit absent at times ;-)
[20:54:14] <Dominus> Urotsukidoji (translated as 'the wandering kid')
[20:55:03] <DarkeZzz> 'S ok. It's not as if we're actually using #exult to talk about... err... exult. *grin*
[20:57:45] <Dominus> hm, as I have the UK version I probably have a censored one
[20:58:24] <Dominus> "The R4 version forming the basis of this review is believed to be ported from the European R2 version heavily censored courtesy of the British Board of Film Censorship."
[20:59:20] <DarkeZzz> Sounds like it. Probably worth getting that DVD then. *grin*
[20:59:46] <Dominus> hmm, yes :-)
[21:29:33] * DarkeZzz yays! Apache2 installed and finally configured so it doesn't do that deny-all thing. Now for php4... *sigh*
[21:58:21] <wjp> "emerge apache; emerge mod_php" ?
[21:58:34] <wjp> s/; emerge//, come to think of it :-)
[22:00:50] <DarkeZzz> Didn't 'just work'. *grin*
[22:01:03] <DarkeZzz> Had to add the appropriate AddType in apache2.conf.
[22:04:28] <DarkeZzz> Also had to forcibly load the module, and cut&paste&modify the <IfDefine PHP4> stuff into <IfModule libphp4.c> in the appropriate place, since forcing the -D PHP4 in the conf.d/apache2.conf file doesn't seem to work.
[22:18:37] <wjp> weird
[22:19:11] <Dominus> damn. should have formatted the second laptop partition into ntfs...
[22:20:00] <Dominus> couldn't capture the whole two eps as it wasn't able to capture beyond 4 GB on Fat32...
[22:20:11] <DarkeZzz> Ick.
[22:20:49] <Dominus> not nice
[22:20:54] * DarkeZzz admits he doesn't use fat32 under 'doze, simply because it's less crash-proof then ntfs.
[22:22:54] <Dominus> should do that too
[22:27:37] * DarkeZzz thinks he probably should stop messing around with tikiwiki, (after spending the last couple of hours getting everything else working so he could!), and do the getting-ready-to-go-to-work thing. How unfair!
[22:30:31] <DarkeZzz> Hrm... 580 inbuilt user-icons... and nothing to choose. Unless you happened to want yourself looking like $(random anime character).
[22:32:04] <DarkeZzz> Ah no, you can actually make yourself look like $(random Quake3 dude) too, or a random marvel super hero, or a random south park critter. But that's basicly your selection. *grin*
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[22:53:17] <Fingolfin> re wjp
[22:53:26] <Fingolfin> CVS / Shell services are working again, phew
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