#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 30 Aug 2001 (GMT)

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[01:34:59] <EazyCheez> ?job
[01:34:59] <exultbot> My job is to write down everything you say.
[01:35:03] <EazyCheez> ?name
[01:35:03] <exultbot> Greetings Avatar. I am called Exultbot.
[01:35:06] <EazyCheez> ?health
[01:35:09] <EazyCheez> hehe
[01:35:14] <EazyCheez> oldskool
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[07:15:29] <Euan> hello
[07:15:46] <Euan> congrats on alpha5
[07:18:12] <Euan> i'm having trouble getting dupres shield back from luther in SI
[07:18:38] <Euan> the conversation just doesnt progress to duelling him for the shield
[07:18:57] <Euan> and when i do duel him, he acts as if nothing has happened
[07:19:02] <Euan> and i get no shield
[07:19:56] <Euan> should i file a bug report?
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[08:49:57] <Euan> hello all
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[09:16:28] <Euan> i cant submit a file to the bug tracker
[09:16:28] <Euan> can someone do it for me?
[09:16:42] <Kefka> eh
[09:16:45] <Kefka> whats wrong?
[09:16:56] <Euan> i'm trying to post a savegame
[09:17:02] <Euan> but it wont work
[09:17:07] <Kefka> what happens?
[09:17:16] <Euan> the bug report went through, but the file didnt
[09:17:31] <Euan> i tried replying, but i crashed
[09:17:39] <Euan> and again, and again
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[09:17:47] <triptron> hello
[09:17:57] <Kefka> hey
[09:18:02] <Kefka> hmm
[09:18:08] <Kefka> what browser are you using?
[09:18:12] <triptron> ie
[09:18:14] <Euan> mozilla
[09:18:38] <Euan> 0.9.3
[09:18:44] <Euan> latest win32 version
[09:18:56] <triptron> hey do you know how to place items and chunks in u7wizard??? anyone???
[09:19:08] <Kefka> triptron: never used it, sorry
[09:19:13] <triptron> damn
[09:19:16] <triptron> :(
[09:19:18] <Kefka> Euan: the pikemen bug?
[09:19:22] <Euan> yes
[09:19:30] <Euan> thats the one
[09:20:03] <Kefka> Euan: have you tried rebooting?
[09:20:12] <Euan> aye
[09:20:40] <Euan> and ive tried on two seperate computers
[09:20:48] <Euan> i think its my ISP, maybe
[09:23:09] <Kefka> hmm, let me register an acccount at sf.net
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[09:24:16] <Euan> it might take a while to come through
[09:24:42] <Euan> my confimation email hasnt arrived yet and i registered 2 weeks ago
[09:24:48] <Euan> or around that time
[09:25:47] <Kefka> Euan: strange.. i just registered
[09:27:13] <Kefka> Euan: how can i attach a file to an already submitted bug?
[09:27:26] <Euan> ive got no idea
[09:27:38] <Euan> i tried reposting altogether
[09:27:45] <Euan> but i crashed
[09:27:49] <Kefka> heh, if you want, send me the savegame
[09:27:53] <Kefka> i will repost the bug
[09:28:43] <Euan> 200k
[09:28:58] <Kefka> i can't get Dccs
[09:29:02] <Kefka> i am behind a firewall
[09:29:11] <Euan> darn
[09:29:16] <Euan> email?
[09:29:31] <Kefka> yeah, that;d be best
[09:29:34] <Kefka> kefka810@yahoo.com
[09:32:09] <Kefka> haha
[09:34:31] <Euan> ok, sent
[09:34:58] <Kefka> ok
[09:35:49] <Euan> thanks
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[09:39:18] <triptron> hello all
[09:42:45] <triptron> fine
[09:43:09] <Euan> hello
[09:43:10] <Euan> heh
[09:43:20] <Euan> gotta go
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[09:43:23] <triptron> seeya
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[09:45:41] <Kefka> wjp: see bug #456798
[09:46:22] <Kefka> btw, hi
[09:46:37] <wjp> hi :-)
[09:46:56] <triptron> hey
[09:47:02] <triptron> thanx
[09:47:27] <Kefka> er
[09:49:41] <triptron> so
[09:50:13] <triptron> i really want to know how to use u7wizard
[09:50:22] <triptron> but nobody else knows anything
[09:50:26] <triptron> its so annoying
[09:52:30] <triptron> wheres kirben???
[09:52:39] <Kefka> dunno
[09:54:13] <Kirben2> I'm still around
[09:54:19] <triptron> oh hey
[09:54:25] <triptron> can u help me!!!
[09:54:34] <Kirben2> But I know nothing about U7wizard.
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[09:55:21] <triptron> damn no1 does
[09:55:42] <triptron> if only linux mandrake would work with my 3d card
[09:55:51] <Kefka> triptron: put debian on
[09:55:57] <Kefka> what 3d card do you have?
[09:56:12] <triptron> geforce 2 32mb
[09:56:23] <Kefka> um, there should be no problem
[09:56:30] <Kefka> what version of mandrake do you have?
[09:56:37] <triptron> 7.1 deluxe
[09:56:52] <wjp> try 8 :-)
[09:56:57] <Kefka> hmm.. well, it should work with 7.1.. but you should get 8 instead
[09:57:08] <Kefka> and actually, 8.1 is close to being complete
[09:57:33] <Kefka> use the nv driver
[09:57:46] <triptron> yeah but no $$$ and i cant d/l it too slow :(:(
[09:58:14] <Kefka> theres a nz mirror i think
[09:58:29] <triptron> how do you know im in nz???
[09:58:36] <triptron> *paranoid
[09:58:38] <Kefka> just use a download manager program.. get like 20 mb a day
[09:58:50] <wjp> --- [triptron] (evildude23@p248-nas3.akl.ihug.co.nz) : nrkn
[09:58:51] <Kefka> when you join the channel
[09:58:58] <triptron> lol
[09:58:58] <Kefka> your hostmask is shown
[09:59:02] <triptron> i know j/k
[09:59:29] <Kefka> use GetRight
[09:59:33] <triptron> hey but i need 2 d/l in 1 file
[09:59:34] <Kefka> and download 8.0
[09:59:40] <triptron> its the folder thingie
[09:59:56] <Kefka> yeah.. GetRight allows you to download chunks at a time
[10:00:06] <Kefka> it will just start off from where it left off
[10:00:19] <Kefka> when you are done, it will be one 600 MB ISO
[10:00:24] <Kefka> burn it, then you are set
[10:00:36] <triptron> yeah but its the folders off the cd its not one file
[10:00:51] <Kefka> doesn't Mandrake provide ISO images?
[10:00:53] <wjp> you need to get the ISO
[10:01:08] <wjp> s/need/want/
[10:01:11] <triptron> is that the image file?
[10:01:15] <wjp> yeah
[10:01:16] <Kefka> yes
[10:02:06] <triptron> so is there an image file on there site???
[10:02:11] <Kefka> there should be
[10:02:32] <Kefka> i use debian.. and i know there is one of debian.. i am not too familiar with mandrake
[10:02:32] <triptron> hopefully
[10:03:00] <triptron> its all the same with the x windows system anyway
[10:03:22] <Kefka> well, apt-get is VERY nice
[10:03:45] <Kefka> thats the main reason i use debian
[10:03:56] <triptron> apt-get is???
[10:04:22] <Kefka> package retriever/upgrader.. used in conjunction with dpkg
[10:04:35] <Kefka> bascially, if you need something like kde
[10:04:44] <triptron> yah cool
[10:04:48] <Kefka> all you'd do is type 'apt-get install kde'
[10:04:55] <Kefka> it would install and configure it for you
[10:05:17] <triptron> yeah i hate going through all those stupid programs
[10:05:41] <Kefka> if you have the time and patience to get through the install, debian is your best bet
[10:05:53] <wjp> </commercial> ;-)
[10:05:58] <Kefka> however, i had many problems.. and needed help.. so just a warning
[10:06:06] <Kefka> wjp: heheh
[10:06:30] <Kefka> triptron: the installer is NOT graphical
[10:06:36] <triptron> yeah and??
[10:06:47] <triptron> whats the debian site
[10:06:54] <Kefka> well, many people do not feel comfortable with non-gui installers
[10:07:00] <wjp> www.debian.org
[10:07:00] <Kefka> debian.org
[10:07:14] <triptron> i used to use dos alot i like using more than windows
[10:07:28] <triptron> *i like using it more that windows
[10:07:33] <Kefka> ok.. also, make note of all the hardware in your computer..
[10:07:59] <triptron> yep know all that, got all the manuals and everything
[10:08:29] <Kefka> ok.. and know the horizontal and vertical sync of your monitor
[10:08:37] <triptron> yeah thats in the manual
[10:08:41] <Kefka> ok
[10:09:37] <triptron> what is dragon linux like???
[10:09:55] <Kefka> never used it before
[10:10:04] <triptron> i heard it wasn't very good
[10:10:19] <triptron> but there are hundreds of linux versions all over the net
[10:10:24] <Kefka> true
[10:11:52] <triptron> you have to go through so much shit to download debian
[10:12:05] <Kefka> want me to give you a direct link?
[10:12:28] <Kefka> triptron: also, if you want, you can do a net install
[10:12:40] <triptron> i have a 33k modem.........
[10:12:58] <triptron> dial-up account.....
[10:13:08] <Kefka> well, the thing is, the base install is a mere 15 MB
[10:13:16] <Kefka> thats all you need
[10:13:24] <Kefka> everything else you can download as needed
[10:13:32] <triptron> hmmmm
[10:13:40] <Kefka> such as kde, wine, exult :)
[10:13:57] <triptron> :)
[10:14:16] <triptron> yeah but i need it in one file just the whole thing
[10:14:48] <triptron> i g2g seeya
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[10:15:15] <Kefka> um
[10:15:21] <Kefka> its base2_2.tgz
[10:15:32] <Kefka> oh well
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[11:15:45] <fingolfin> hi
[11:20:00] <wjp> hi
[11:20:23] <Kefka> hello
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[11:56:07] <Dominus> hi
[11:58:33] <wjp> hi
[12:00:31] <Dominus> fingolfin: didnīt you implement that doubleclclicking on an open container gump closes it?
[12:01:10] <fingolfin> yeah, you have to activate it in your .cfg file though
[12:01:27] <fingolfin> I didnīt add a graphical option for that... i guess I should... ;)
[12:01:38] <Dominus> how do you activate it?
[12:03:24] <fingolfin> the config key is config/gameplay/double_click_closes_gumps
[12:03:51] <fingolfin> set it to "yes"
[12:05:45] <Dominus> ah, nice
[12:06:00] <Dominus> something I have to put into the documentation, I guess!
[12:06:43] <Dominus> btw, there is really a problem with Erethian, see http://exult.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=1241&t=1241
[12:07:06] <Dominus> the game doesnīt snap out of "cinematic" mode
[12:07:17] <Dominus> once he changes into a mouse
[12:07:29] <wjp> he changes into a mouse?!
[12:07:46] <Dominus> read that link I explained it
[12:08:34] <wjp> does this happen in the original?
[12:08:35] <Dominus> I have a savegame handy right at that point where he is on the carpet
[12:08:38] <Dominus> yep
[12:08:58] <Dominus> I only read it in one of the Ultima FAQs
[12:09:04] <Dominus> in the newsgroup
[12:09:27] <Dominus> I havenīt yet tried once the ether is restored
[12:10:31] <Dominus> should I commit the savegame to the bugtracker?
[12:11:51] <wjp> hehe, just duplicated it... funny :-)
[12:11:59] <Dominus> :-)
[12:12:13] * wjp just hack-moved him onto the carpet
[12:13:13] <Dominus> I think his casting puts the avatar either in "cinematic" mode or he never snaps out of "conversation mode" after this
[12:13:39] <wjp> there's no such thing as conversation mode
[12:13:51] <wjp> well, not really :-)
[12:14:09] <Dominus> okay, but for you the avatar is also frozen and in that "hand cursor mode"
[12:14:14] <wjp> yeah
[12:15:04] <wjp> dont_move mode
[12:15:06] <wjp> I think
[12:16:02] <Dominus> should I submit with savegame or do you take a look at it?
[12:16:17] <wjp> better submit it
[12:19:34] <Dominus> okay, done
[12:20:52] <wjp> thanks
[12:24:08] <Dominus> fingolfin: what do you want me to change in the readme? got some time now?
[12:25:15] <Dominus> (except for the points 6.1 and 6.2 that have allready come true)
[12:26:12] <Dominus> damn Internet Explorer 6 - doesnīt show the webpage counters anymore (or are they off now?)!
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[12:45:30] <wjp> they seem to be disabled
[12:46:06] <Dominus> ah, so itīs not one of the wonderfull IE6 "features"
[12:46:28] <Dominus> Fingolfin must have been sick of them probably
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[12:47:13] <Colourless> hi
[12:47:49] <Dominus> when is Nadir due to be back? It would be nice if the Forum would generate pages inside threads (so itīs not taking so long to open a thread like "new features")
[12:47:52] <Dominus> Hi
[12:48:18] <Colourless> no kidding
[12:51:08] <wjp> hmm, the only settings are "entire thread at once" or "one message at a time"
[13:03:59] * wjp takes a look at the message display code
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[13:05:07] <EazyCheez> hello :)
[13:05:10] <wjp> hi
[13:05:14] <Dominus> hi
[13:05:31] <Colourless> hi
[13:06:21] <EazyCheez> I was wondering if you people knew, where to get reagents in U5... My Avatar and Shamino got killed :( and I don't have the reagents for Resurrect (missing 2 I think)
[13:06:44] <Dominus> too ong ago for me
[13:06:49] <Dominus> canīt you buy them
[13:06:50] <Dominus> ?
[13:07:49] <Colourless> yeah you do need to buy them
[13:08:39] <Colourless> I think you'll need to go to more than one town though. the reagent seller in Moonglow doesn't sell all of them
[13:08:54] <Colourless> i'm not sure which towns have reagent sellers
[13:13:23] <Dominus> got to go now
[13:13:28] <Dominus> cu tomorrow
[13:13:33] <wjp> bye
[13:13:35] <Colourless> cya
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[13:19:55] <EazyCheez> hehe
[13:20:05] <Colourless> something was funny>
[13:20:06] <Colourless> ?
[13:20:06] <EazyCheez> ok I died and was resurrected
[13:20:49] <EazyCheez> I like that about Ultima games, but I understand the need of it not to happen in U8 and U9... they're different games :)
[13:21:35] <Colourless> those 2 games aren't meant to be as friendly. IMO it can make the games too easy
[13:22:03] <EazyCheez> yeah
[13:22:58] <EazyCheez> if you don't prepare, use Mark and Recall in U7 that is, you can totally mess up your game because your carpet is somewhere totally different (if you use the carpet :) )
[13:23:38] <Colourless> and in Ultima v when you are in the dungeons, especially doom it's a real pain in the ass getting back
[13:23:39] <EazyCheez> or, if you want you can make the trek to Vesper and get on your ship (that is if you have the Forge of Virtue)
[13:25:57] <Colourless> Serpent Isle is probably the game that is made too easy by the way the ressurections work. you get teleported back to 'about' where you originally were when you died. Often whatever killed you will be gone
[13:26:38] <Colourless> the XP hit for dying should be higher.... do BG/SI even have a XP hit?
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[13:38:24] <Waz> wow.. they do exist
[13:39:08] <Colourless> they? ;-)
[13:39:27] <Waz> them
[13:41:08] <Waz> anyone seen the "summon geeks" video parody of AD&D?
[13:41:25] <Waz> "summoner geeks"
[13:41:53] <Colourless> can't as I have
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[13:42:39] <wjp|away> (back in 2 hours or so)
[13:42:53] <Colourless> cya
[13:43:08] <Waz> is 44 megs, want a copy?
[13:43:29] <Colourless> uh.... no ;-)
[13:43:33] <Waz> ok
[13:43:43] <Colourless> my pipe is too small, 44 megs wouldn't fit :)
[13:43:45] * Colourless is on a modem
[13:44:51] <Waz> ah..
[13:45:00] <Waz> <- cable yuppie.. :|
[13:45:35] <Colourless> humility IS one of the virtue
[13:45:49] <Waz> where do you live, i'll burn you a cd.....
[13:45:55] <Waz> j/k
[13:46:29] <Waz> humility maybe a virtue, but i have to work on the other 7 first..
[13:48:22] <EazyCheez> oh crud
[13:49:06] <EazyCheez> dangit, I had just defeated the monster in the Tetrahedron, and was asking my party to rejoin... when I asked Tseramed to rejoin, the game crashed :(
[13:49:31] <Waz> found religion in the save option did ya?
[13:49:42] <EazyCheez> yes I did :)
[13:49:46] <Waz> the monster is not hard to defeat.. what level are you?
[13:49:53] <Waz> user the glass sword...
[13:49:58] <EazyCheez> but I still have to ask my party to leave and kill the thing
[13:50:12] <EazyCheez> no I don't need the glass sword, he goes down in one or two swipes
[13:50:17] <Waz> small lightning bolts never hurt anyone
[13:50:18] <EazyCheez> of the Black Sword :)
[13:50:46] <Waz> try letting go of it..
[13:51:06] <Waz> :)
[13:51:19] <EazyCheez> but when I go into the menu to have instant death on the creature, he disappears :)
[13:51:36] <EazyCheez> ok... /me tries it again, and saves right after picking up the Tetrahedron
[13:52:16] <Waz> cheater.. thought.. i was able to beat the game in alpha 2 by skipping the whole timelord,wisps, emp contract part.. i lost the contract,,,
[13:52:20] <Waz> }:>
[13:53:14] <Waz> and i didn't kill the liche
[13:53:38] <Waz> and save the hot, yet ditzy ghost in scara brae (sp).. most a pity.
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[13:55:58] <EazyCheez> sigh
[13:56:28] <EazyCheez> I ask Tseramed to join again, and it crashed AGAIN
[13:56:46] <EazyCheez> good thing I saved JUST before I asked him
[13:56:59] <Colourless> you'll have to go without him. I think it's a known bug
[13:59:25] <EazyCheez> Gasp... um, well I can get the stuff I put on him using the pickpocket mode, right? :)
[14:00:19] <EazyCheez> he's gonna be stuck there forever, cause I told him to 'wait here'... maybe I should mark a stone in that location in case the bug is ever fixed
[14:07:34] <EazyCheez> Well there's one DISadvantage to clearing the ether
[14:07:43] <EazyCheez> Nicodemus is no longer a loon :)
[14:07:53] <EazyCheez> he says some of the funniest stuff
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[15:01:09] <Colourless> uh, hi :)
[15:07:39] <fingolfin> hi
[15:09:36] <Colourless> our responce times are pretty poor :)
[15:12:28] <fingolfin> yeah
[15:12:38] <fingolfin> probably because we are both busy with other stuff? ;)
[15:13:33] <Colourless> :)
[15:17:23] <fingolfin> woa this update for my browser (Omniweb 4.0.3 -> 4.0.5) gives me big boost for page display!
[15:17:54] <fingolfin> only reaons it seems is that they patched some OS calls to not hit the disk whenever they retrieve a localized version of an UI text...
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[15:52:30] <wjp> back
[15:52:36] <Colourless> wb
[15:52:40] <wjp> thx
[15:55:37] <fingolfin> wb
[15:56:18] <wjp> fingolfin: you know... we haven't played D2 together for quite some time...
[15:56:28] <wjp> fingolfin: got any time tonight? ;-)
[15:56:54] <fingolfin> ho hum... well... ok ;)
[15:57:25] <fingolfin> not too long though, I need to leave tomorrow noon to fetch my cousin, then we travel to some other friends and do a LAN party over the weekend, playsin SC and D2 ;)
[15:57:36] <wjp> oooh, nice
[15:57:52] <wjp> I can't stay up too long either, have to work tomorrow morning
[15:59:41] * wjp is getting tired of those "new features" threads
[15:59:51] <fingolfin> =)
[16:00:02] <wjp> they should let us finish the "old features" first :-)
[16:00:19] <Colourless> heh, agreed :)
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[16:49:03] <fingolfin> uhm... the forum is gone it seems?!?!?!?
[16:49:22] <fingolfin> it wasnīt me, I didnīt play with it
[16:49:48] <fingolfin> anybody got it working?
[16:50:02] <fingolfin> damn, is our MySQL db gone or what? did anybody play with the forum PHP?
[16:50:15] <Colourless> it's dead jim,
[16:50:17] <Kefka> phorum is definately down
[16:50:25] <wjp> it disappeared a few minutes ago too, but automatically reappeared
[16:50:47] <wjp> maybe SF disconnected our DB because it generated too much traffic ;-)
[16:50:58] <Colourless> this time it's not back
[16:51:00] <silverscale> who needs a forum when you have irc channel
[16:51:08] <silverscale> :)
[16:51:19] <Colourless> you want 'them' here ;-)
[16:52:29] <Kefka> i got a few to come here with my post
[16:52:43] <Kefka> dunno if they'll ever be back though
[16:54:30] <fingolfin> I am talking with moorman about it
[16:55:57] <fingolfin> could somebody check if the DB still has the data?
[16:56:53] <EazyCheez> bahaha Frank is a funny little fox
[16:57:07] <EazyCheez> I was afraid my companions would attack him, but no
[16:57:19] <EazyCheez> I actually never saw him before
[16:57:48] <EazyCheez> He hangs out to the east of the Lycaeum, and he wears a green thing around his neck
[16:57:56] <EazyCheez> that's how you identify him
[16:58:06] <Colourless> they really should attack him, I mean, talking fox or no talking fox, he's really annoying ;-)
[16:58:08] <wjp> yeah, he's really funny :-)
[16:58:13] <wjp> and annoying, yes :-)
[16:58:43] <Colourless> I wonder, is he actually the result of a mages experiments
[16:59:56] <wjp> fingolfin: small problem... I can't run the mysql client on shell2.sf.net, and I can't connect to mysql.sf.net from here
[17:01:32] <fingolfin> you canīt run it?!? why not? error message?
[17:01:33] <fingolfin> hrm
[17:01:46] <fingolfin> wjp: can you come to #sourceforge maybe?
[17:02:08] <wjp> ...
[17:02:19] <wjp> already there for a few minutes...
[17:02:20] <wjp> ;-)
[17:02:59] <fingolfin> ups ;)
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[17:07:22] <EazyCheez> wow guys... it must be really tough to keep the savegames compatible with all the new snapshots... but you guys do it fine
[17:07:54] <Colourless> it's not too hard
[17:08:01] <wjp> most things don't break savegames
[17:08:27] <Colourless> forward compatibility is easy. Backward compatibility is hard
[17:08:46] <fingolfin> =)
[17:09:34] <wjp> fingolfin: see http://exult.sf.net/testdb.php
[17:09:56] <wjp> it's a simple "connect to server; connect to db; close connection" script
[17:10:03] <wjp> no queries or anything
[17:10:30] <fingolfin> sure. one of us must submit a bug report so that moorman can handle it
[17:10:40] <fingolfin> I can do it, too, just tell me so we donīt get two reports ;)
[17:10:57] <wjp> dinner's ready... you better do it :-)
[17:11:08] <fingolfin> ok
[17:11:11] <wjp> bbl
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[17:24:28] <Colourless> hey the forum came back for about a second
[17:26:12] <Colourless> it's gone again though
[17:27:34] <fingolfin> Colourless: mooman is working on that problem
[17:28:46] <Colourless> do you know if the problem is effecting anyone else?
[17:28:58] <fingolfin> not sure, I can ask jacob
[17:31:06] <fingolfin> Colourless: I was just told it should be all set now
[17:31:13] <fingolfin> and it was sitewide ;)
[17:31:57] <Colourless> yep, it's back
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[17:35:31] <fingolfin> wb
[17:35:36] <wjp> thx
[17:37:11] <fingolfin> sigh... I bet ClockNova has some old sfx pack installed somewhere without noticing ;)
[17:38:14] <fingolfin> ok, what do you folks thing: for SDL on MacOS X, I am rewriting the keyboard event code (of SDL I mean)
[17:38:25] <fingolfin> now I need a new keymapping table, I have two choices:
[17:38:58] <fingolfin> use two tables a 65536 entries (mapping unicode to keysymbols; the second table being for KeyPad events only, i.e. a big waste) OR
[17:39:14] <fingolfin> I take three tables a 256 entries: normal key events, function keys, keypad
[17:39:26] <fingolfin> last one is smaller but needs on if/else if/else
[17:40:04] <fingolfin> first one is a little bit faster but wastes loads of space (erhm... well, roughly 127kb ;)
[17:40:58] <Colourless> 127 kb is lots
[17:41:54] <Colourless> i'd choose the other option
[17:41:55] <fingolfin> it is... I think I will go with three small tables, easyier to implement anyway
[17:42:01] <fingolfin> yeah ;)
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[19:25:33] <wjp> hmm, I don't even have 1.09 installed yet... I'd better go get that...
[19:25:48] <wjp> fingolfin: I'll be on Bnet if you feel like D2 :-)
[19:25:49] <Colourless> 1.09 what?
[19:25:54] <wjp> Diablo2 of course ;-)
[19:26:09] <wjp> see you later
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[19:44:35] <fingolfin> ok, I am going to join wjp now ;)
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