#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 30 Jun 2001 (GMT)

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[13:26:41] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult v0.93 Alpha 4 Out NOW! Go Get IT!
[13:26:41] --- Topic for #exult set by Colourless at Fri Jun 29 22:26:05 2001
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[13:38:03] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult v0.93 Alpha 4 Out NOW! Go Get IT!
[13:38:03] --- Topic for #exult set by Colourless at Fri Jun 29 22:26:05 2001
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[14:22:21] <Colourless> hi
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[14:30:38] <mrod> hello
[14:30:45] <Colourless> hi
[14:30:52] <mrod> what happened to exultbot ?
[14:31:06] <Colourless> ?
[14:32:03] <mrod> this morning i went to see the logs, and it gave me a document full of lines like "<-- exultbot_ has quit" (i don't remember exactly the phrase now)
[14:32:05] <Kitaro> Ritualistic killing.
[14:32:15] <mrod> now it's working ok
[14:32:23] <mrod> ?
[14:32:58] <Colourless> you'd have to ask wjp... WJP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:33:07] <mrod> the document was huge, so huge that i didn't get to its end :-)
[14:33:09] * Colourless screams out, "WJP!"
[14:33:24] <mrod> but now it's just fine
[14:35:38] <Colourless> ?logs
[14:35:38] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/exultlog.php3
[14:37:05] <Colourless> hmm, the logs for the 29th of June are missing.... where could the be.... it's a conspiracy! Someone has edited the logs!
[14:37:16] <mrod> :-)
[14:38:35] <Colourless> considering that the only person that has access to exult bot is wjp.....
[14:44:43] <wjp> hi
[14:44:54] <Colourless> hi
[14:44:58] <wjp> mrod: exultbot was ill :-)
[14:45:35] <wjp> it filled today's log with 20Mb of 'disconnected' messages :-)
[14:45:46] <wjp> anyway, I fixed the bug, so it should be fine now...
[14:45:51] * wjp crosses fingers
[14:46:10] <Colourless> who's disconnection meessage?
[14:46:17] <mrod> wjp: :-)
[14:46:22] <wjp> exultbot's
[14:46:29] <mrod> it works ok now
[14:46:33] <wjp> as you may have noticed it was named 'exultbot_' the last few days
[14:46:37] <Colourless> so, what happened?
[14:46:48] <wjp> and when it tried to reconnect, it sent its nick 'exultbot_' as username
[14:46:55] <wjp> however, _'s aren't allowed in usernames :/
[14:47:11] <wjp> so it got disconnected by the server a few times, and after that got throttled for reconnecting too fast
[14:47:59] <wjp> I now reset it's nick to 'exultbot' before connecting
[14:48:29] <Colourless> i found a site that has the ultima 7 rom for SNES, anyone want it? :)
[14:52:01] <wjp> nah, but thanks :-)
[14:52:43] <Kitaro> I already have it.
[14:52:49] <Kitaro> It's a lousy port.
[14:52:52] <mrod> i actually didn't try a snes emulator yet
[14:53:24] <Colourless> the zip file is 588k. It's got to be crappy if it's that small
[14:54:14] <mrod> :-)
[14:54:26] * Colourless decides to download, to just see what it's like
[15:24:29] <Kitaro> Colourless: it is nothing like Ultima 7, Trinsic isn't even at all.
[15:24:39] <Kitaro> Trinsic at all.
[15:25:42] <Kitaro> BTW, FCI is the same company that ported Ultima 3 to the NES, and they did a better port of it than Ultima 7.
[15:26:24] <Kitaro> They probably could've done a better port if it was on the PSX.
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[16:06:19] <Colourless> ultima 7 for snes is wierd
[16:06:50] <Colourless> it's got better sfx than the pc version though :)
[16:08:25] <Colourless> it's got smooth scrolling as well
[16:09:28] * mrod would love to see smooth scrolling in exult !
[16:11:29] <wjp> I wonder how possible that would be with the framerates we get now
[16:23:24] * Colourless decides that i've had enough of that. playing with the keyboard is so annoying
[16:24:13] <wjp> Colourless: do you still have the Photoshop SDK installed?
[16:26:11] <wjp> if so, want to try out the distro I've cooked up for the plugin?
[16:28:35] <Colourless> i've still got it installed
[16:29:19] <wjp> http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/U7ShpFormat.zip (26K, source+binary)
[16:29:48] <Colourless> that's pretty small
[16:29:54] <wjp> yeah
[16:30:39] <wjp> hmm, maybe I should write a README for it
[16:32:09] <Colourless> so, where do i put it?
[16:33:00] <wjp> the binary? in Plug-Ins/File Formats behind the Photoshop dir
[16:33:11] <Colourless> the source
[16:33:21] <wjp> it should work anywhere
[16:33:47] <wjp> but it assumes the SDK is installed in Program Files/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop 6.0 SDK
[16:33:57] <wjp> C:\program files\.... even
[16:34:02] <Colourless> hmmm. that would be a problem
[16:34:41] <wjp> a search&replace on the project file would probably fix that
[16:36:29] <wjp> maybe it would be better if I assumed the source is located somewhere in the SDK tree?
[16:36:41] <Colourless> yeah, probably
[16:56:12] <wjp> oh, I need to finish splitshp.cc too
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[17:01:32] <wjp|dinner> bbl
[17:01:35] <Colourless> ok
[18:04:50] <mrod> bye, see you later
[18:04:56] <Colourless> cya
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[18:32:47] * wjp is back
[18:32:58] <Colourless> wb
[18:37:44] <wjp> thx
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[18:59:27] <wjp> hi
[18:59:37] <wildcat> lo
[18:59:45] <wildcat> just wanted to say kickass job on the proggry
[18:59:58] <wjp> thanks :-)
[18:59:58] <wildcat> blew the dust off my UC cdrom
[19:00:14] <wildcat> was curious if ya knew anything about the Bag bug
[19:00:19] <wildcat> i can only carry 2 bags :/
[19:00:30] <wildcat> i could have sworn you could carry like shitloads of em
[19:00:36] <wjp> yeah, we seem to miscalculate volume
[19:01:40] <wildcat> another thing, when i went to the smithy house alone, the stuff did its thing, but then i went back with the other 2 members and it seemed to have slown down my system
[19:03:03] <wildcat> but otherwise it's been doin pretty good
[19:03:17] <wildcat> glad people still remember the good games
[19:03:39] <wjp> what exactly do you mean with "slowing down your system"?
[19:03:42] <wildcat> ultima 7 proves you dont have to have geforce 3 intense graphics to have a good game
[19:03:44] <wildcat> well
[19:03:51] <wjp> did it permanently slow down, or just temporarily?
[19:03:56] <wildcat> when i was playing
[19:03:57] <wildcat> it slowed down
[19:04:01] <wildcat> like it was eating up memory
[19:04:06] <wildcat> i'll have to try it again
[19:04:13] <wildcat> but the first time, it played the sounds and the stuff was moving
[19:04:22] <wildcat> but then when i brought iolo and spark with me
[19:04:26] <wildcat> and we went in there
[19:04:31] <wildcat> it just seemed to get real sluggish
[19:04:56] <wildcat> i'll go try it again
[19:06:01] * wjp tries too
[19:07:15] <wildcat> hrm
[19:07:18] <wildcat> just ran through the intro
[19:07:26] <wildcat> the audio and video dont synch up
[19:07:34] <wildcat> the video went faster than the audio
[19:07:39] <wjp> yeah, we're waiting for someone to volunteer to fix that :-)
[19:08:20] <wildcat> the antialiasing on the text is a bit annoying...
[19:08:28] <wildcat> it blurs together and makes it hard on the eyes to read
[19:08:34] <wjp> you can try if using a different scaler helps
[19:08:45] <wildcat> hrm i clicked on the video options but nothing happened
[19:09:03] <wjp> you can only set that from the main exult menu, atm
[19:09:07] <wildcat> ahh...
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[19:12:24] <wildcat> yeah..the run/walk thing isnt workin
[19:12:27] <wildcat> like...
[19:12:46] <wildcat> he'll do the steps (short arrow) then walks (medium arrow) and still walks (long arrow)
[19:14:12] * wjp nods
[19:14:32] <wjp> I don't think we have the time-acceleration in 'run' mode
[19:15:03] <wjp> but you should walk faster with a longer arrow
[19:15:26] <wildcat> i didnt really notice any difference
[19:15:57] <wjp> hmm, what CPU do you have?
[19:17:45] <wildcat> weird
[19:17:47] <wildcat> it works with Point
[19:17:50] <wildcat> but that's the only one
[19:17:56] <wildcat> everything else looks the same with the others
[19:18:14] <wildcat> i've got an amd k6-3 400 w/ 196 megs ram and voodoo 3 3500
[19:18:25] <wildcat> i'll try it with another one....
[19:21:06] <wildcat> quit to main menu dont work either heh
[19:24:38] <wildcat> the run/walk thing is only really noticeable in Point scaling
[19:25:21] <wjp> the scalers soak up quite a lot of CPU...
[19:26:04] <wildcat> i might go try and run it on the athlon...
[19:26:08] <wildcat> see what that does
[19:26:13] <wildcat> probably later on today tho
[19:26:31] <wildcat> how's SI coming along?
[19:26:34] <wjp> walk/run diff. is noticable on my athlon 700, btw
[19:26:40] <Colourless> it's comming along well
[19:26:43] <wjp> SI is doing pretty well
[19:27:06] <wjp> plotwise you can already get to moonshade. Silver Seed is working for a large part too
[19:27:24] <wildcat> that's good. 1 thing i'm definantly happy about is the use of the original sounds and music
[19:27:42] <wildcat> i mean granted i've got like 64 and 100 meg sound fonts
[19:28:02] <wildcat> it just goes hand in hand having the old school synth with the games
[19:28:41] <wjp> 100Mb sound fonts?! ouch :-)
[19:29:02] <wildcat> eh, i plan on building meself a new system
[19:29:14] <wildcat> get that 266 fsb going on with maybe a gig of memory
[19:29:25] <wildcat> 100 meg sound fonts will be posh to such ;P
[19:30:18] <wildcat> i was reading about that alternative u7 windows program...
[19:30:37] <wildcat> are there any differences in the two?
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[19:32:46] <wjp> between exult and u7win you mean?
[19:33:36] <wildcat> yeah
[19:33:56] <wjp> exult is a complete rewrite, while u7win is a wrapper around the original
[19:34:18] <wildcat> what benefits does each one have?
[19:34:38] <wildcat> well aside from the expandability exult has
[19:35:09] <wjp> it runs on tons of OSs, will never run too fast, ...
[19:35:36] <wjp> no need for the hassle of configuring a sound card for DOS
[19:36:04] <wjp> no need to get a free 580Kb of base RAM
[19:36:08] <wjp> etc... :-)
[19:36:47] <wildcat> what'd be tight as hell is if you could make it multiplayer
[19:37:07] <wildcat> i mean UO is nice... but it's just a never ending deal
[19:37:23] <wildcat> the only concept is to gain experience and run little tasks
[19:37:37] <wildcat> it'd be cool to have a "help others to win game" multiplayer deal
[19:38:35] <wjp> we've been getting quite a lot of requests for this :-)
[19:39:56] <wildcat> but is there any code laid out for it yet...or is it still in talks?
[19:40:12] <Colourless> not going to happen
[19:40:38] <wjp> well, not by the current team :-)
[19:40:42] <wildcat> ah
[19:42:18] <wildcat> what about works for U6?
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[19:43:25] <mrod> hello
[19:43:58] <wjp> hmm... I don't think I've heard of any projects for U6
[19:43:59] <wjp> hi
[19:45:01] <wjp> brb
[19:45:06] <wildcat> u6 was pretty damn cool...
[19:45:19] <wildcat> it'd be nice to run in windows and have the frame rate adjusted
[20:01:36] <wildcat> oh yeah, one last thing before i scram, i cant combine all my gold into one pile
[20:01:55] <wildcat> so hopefully that can be fixed in the next release, otherwise good job n keep up the good work
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[21:11:27] <matt0> wjp!
[21:12:24] <wjp> hi
[21:14:53] <wjp> I think I'm going to go and cleanse the shrine of valour...
[21:14:59] <wjp> bye
[21:15:12] <wjp> (oh, I committed the .shp plugin to CVS)
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[21:50:48] <mrod> bye
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