#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 30 Jun 2016 (GMT)

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[13:29:09] <Dominus> Marzo, if you feel like going for it, feel free to convert SF tracker to github issue...
[13:32:03] <Marzo> k
[13:32:21] <Marzo> I think I will also take a look at those mods you added to the downloads page
[13:32:48] <Dominus> hmm, you need to export the tracker - can you access https://sourceforge.net/p/exult/admin/export ?
[13:33:04] <Marzo> No
[13:33:13] <Marzo> "Admin access required"
[13:33:23] <Marzo> Error 403
[13:33:54] <Marzo> So you'd need to either give me admin access or export it and share the exported data with me
[13:34:08] <Dominus> Ok, I'm exporting them right now one after another
[13:35:08] <Marzo> No need to rush, I will look at it over the weekend so it can be done properly
[13:35:38] <Dominus> so I'll just grant you admin rights (if I can)
[13:36:38] <Dominus> which was fast and you should have them now (unless SF needs time to add them to you)
[13:39:38] <Dominus> Marzo, those mods are fun - too bad the U6 conversion doesn't bundle its usecode source :(
[13:40:04] <Marzo> At some point, my usecode decompiler will be able to handle that
[13:40:16] <Dominus> and the u6 conversion also needs its shapes.vga trimmed. I did that for the Matthew Johnston mod as far as I could
[13:40:48] <Dominus> we don't support only adding frames to shape numbers of a vga file via expack, yet, right?
[13:40:58] <Marzo> I could add a "deduplicate" option to ES
[13:41:15] <Dominus> deduplicate option... yeah :)
[13:41:23] <Marzo> No, it is either a full shape or nothing
[13:42:08] <Dominus> for the Johnston mod, I compared the original shapes.vga to the modified one via two ES windows...
[13:42:38] <Dominus> In hindsight I could have just exported the shapes and then compared file sizes to find different ones...
[13:42:38] <Marzo> Off to work now
[13:42:45] <Dominus> ok, bye
[13:42:55] <Marzo> Or do a diff
[13:43:08] <Dominus> yeah
[13:43:25] <Dominus> (I wonder if ipack wasn't supposed to be able to just add frames)
[13:43:36] * Marzo needs to make git binary diff filters
[13:43:57] <Marzo> We don't have the capability of patching single frames
[13:44:08] <Dominus> ok
[13:44:14] <Dominus> we could use that :)
[13:44:20] <Dominus> (not really)
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[16:01:12] <Marzo> Dominus: by the way, I have an idea on how to handle subtitles on other languages
[16:01:41] <Marzo> At lest as far as a way to show them with as little hard-coding as possible
[16:02:41] <Marzo> Basically, we could put a character at the start of each line which is intended to appear together with the previous line
[16:02:53] <Marzo> (say, '^')
[16:03:51] <Marzo> If would be checked, skipped if there, and the line added to the current list of lines
[16:04:14] <Marzo> Durations are another matter, though
[16:05:12] <Marzo> Another possibility: one line has three numbers: starting time, duration, number of lines
[16:05:32] <Marzo> No hard-coding that way
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[16:05:59] <Marzo> And the subtitles can be better tailored to each language
[16:06:07] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: we really need lua or something for de-hardcoding.
[16:06:22] <Malignant_Manor> That would be an after release thing, if ever.
[16:06:30] <Marzo> I was thinking of Boost.Python myself
[16:06:45] <Marzo> Particularly for GUI stuff
[16:11:12] <Malignant_Manor> Marzo: do you think any of the patches should be added to Exult?
[16:11:42] <Marzo> What patches do you mean?
[16:12:07] <Malignant_Manor> https://sourceforge.net/p/exult/patches/
[16:12:15] <Malignant_Manor> a lot of these are ancient
[16:12:50] <Marzo> Has to be analyzed case-by-case
[16:12:54] <Malignant_Manor> we should probably figure out what to accept or wont
[16:45:05] <Dominus> I like the container position remember patch
[16:48:58] <Malignant_Manor> It should probably include a setting to use it or not. I never really tried it.
[17:04:54] <Dominus> Well it is that harmless that it doesn't need a setting imo
[17:05:31] <Dominus> Just remembering the gumps position is sth people won't even realize for a while ;)
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